[17:54] <phunyguy> @comment 67423 This guy is bad news, and already has a ban in place.  No need to remove any time soon.
[18:14] <DJones> Does ubottu need updating to show 15.04 results instead of 14.10 for !info prompts
[18:15] <Pici> DJones: yes.
[18:15] <Pici> I've reached out to tsimpson and jussi about it, but haven't heard anything back.
[18:15] <DJones> I have no idea how to do that, just noticed a utopic result in #u that made me wonder
[18:15] <DJones> alanbell may know how to change that
[18:16] <Pici> It can only be done by people with Owner access on ubottu, of which those two are the only ones with sufficient access.
[18:16] <DJones> Ah
[18:16] <Pici> alan and I both have admin, which isn't enigh.
[18:16] <Pici> *enough
[20:45] <bazhang> was it debain that gave dist-upgrade the version change idea
[20:45] <bazhang> sooo many people get confused about that
[20:45] <Pici> Only when combined with changing the sources.list file.
[20:48] <k1l> "back then" that was the way to upgrade to a new release
[20:49] <k1l> with the new apt, they named it sudo apt update&&sudo apt full-upgrade. which is still confusing with update and upgrade, but the missing "dist" is better imho
[20:51] <Unit193> A release or two ago, ubuntu-release-upgrader was a bit hit and miss with even finding them, so the old Debian Way™ had to be used by a few.
[20:51] <bazhang> I shiver to think when thenwas in 'back then'
[20:51] <bazhang> I cannot wait for snappy and dmg
[20:52] <ikonia> ubuntu-release-upgrader ??
[20:52] <ikonia> is that replacing update manager offering new releases ?
[20:52] <k1l> i am curious what problems come with snappy. but i like to adress the issues with PPAs.
[20:53] <bazhang> snappy, and add everything with all the libs independent
[20:53] <Unit193> ikonia: ubuntu-release-upgrader-core is what provides do-release-upgrade, the commandline version.
[20:53] <bazhang> much like dmg
[20:54] <bazhang> @random upgradeception snappy
[21:05] <Pici> I have no idea whats going on with this snappy stuff.  I think I'll stay in the dark for the time being.
[21:05] <Unit193> I went "Phone stuff, can ignore."
[21:05] <bazhang> ogra gave a great rundown in -release-party
[21:06] <bazhang> ubuntu as arch with rollback/restore
[21:06] <k1l> i see it as a chance to get rid of "i have 23343535 PPAs installed and now my apt-get is not working anymore
[21:06] <bazhang> all factoids can be replaced with !restore
[23:16] <Seveas> Getting this in PM from someone active in #ubuntu
[23:16] <Seveas> 01:16 <   mutherbag> | cocoony wants to finger your ass
[23:16] <Seveas> might be trouble looming
[23:31] <cocoony> hello...the user : mutherbag   ....makes stress ..i am newbie in linux and after i ask a question he writes pm to me and other users and writes rassism words
[23:34] <Seveas> !ops
[23:34] <Seveas> trouble it is indeed
[23:35] <cocoony> now the user writes lies in mainroom
[23:35] <cocoony> he lies
[23:37] <cocoony> !ops : motherbag writes hate in pm to me and now he writes in mainm
[23:38] <cocoony> the user mutherbag writes rassism words to me and now he writes in mainroom that i write this !!!!!! what a lier
[23:42] <genii> cocoony: You do not need to write the content of offensive PMs into the maion channel either. This is also not acceptable