[01:26] <ball> hello minsky
[03:22] <mappps> is it a bank holiday tomorrow?
[03:30] <ball> I do hope so.
[03:30] <ball> Oh wait, I don't get bank holidays.
[03:34] <mappps> someone told me it is (here in gib)
[03:34] <mappps> so is it in UK too?
[03:35] <mappps> i trasferred some money and it said 1 working day is why im wondering
[03:35] <ball> I don't know. I don't have a UK calendar this year.
[03:35] <ball> Usually I have one up in the study.
[03:35] <mappps> hm
[03:36] <ball> I should pay my satellite television bill this week.
[03:36] <mappps> a month till i go back to Knightsbridge:D
[03:37] <ball> Is that in London?
[03:37] <mappps> 24-29th may short visit
[03:37] <mappps> yea
[03:37] <mappps> where are you ?
[03:37] <mappps> Then back to gib:)
[03:37] <ball> I live in Illinois, USA.
[03:37] <ball> brb
[03:38] <mappps> nice
[03:39] <ball> It's alright. Not like home but it has its good days.
[03:40] <mappps> where's home?
[03:40] <ball> Wiltshire.
[03:40] <mappps> heard of
[03:40] <mappps> manchester?
[03:40] <ball> I am aware of Manchester.
[03:40] <mappps> no i mean wiltshire is manchester?
[03:41] <ball> No, Manchester's in the midlands I think.
[03:41] <mappps> where's wiltshire
[03:41] <ball> Central Southern England, though we consider ourselves "West Country" I think.
[03:42] <ball> ...which made Cornish frinds point and laugh.
[03:42] <mappps> oh
[03:42] <ball> friends*
[03:42] <mappps> nowhere near surrey then?
[03:42] <mappps> thats where im from orig
[03:43] <ball> I think my grandfather used to live in Surrey, on my mother's side.
[03:44] <mappps> nice place
[03:44]  * ball nods
[03:44] <ball> I've been there once or twice.
[03:44] <ball> Not in recent years though.
[03:44] <mappps> i swapped surrey/london for gib
[03:44] <mappps> doubt il ever move back really
[03:45] <ball> mappps: I can relate to that. Even if I could afford to go back it would be a difficult transition.
[03:45] <mappps> yea
[03:45] <mappps> i haven;t lived with family for ~12 years (since uni)
[03:46] <mappps> no way i'd go back
[03:46] <mappps> and it's a super safe place here
[03:46] <mappps> like london muggings are normal..here it'd make front page news
[04:01]  * ball nods
[04:01] <ball> Here they mostly just shoot you.
[04:02] <mappps> here it's just non existant
[04:02] <mappps> last month there was a murder..and everyone was worried
[04:02] <mappps> turned out the girlfriend murdered her kids boyfriend and killed herself
[04:08] <ball> Well that's unfortunate.
[05:12] <Knightwise> mornin
[05:15]  * ball waves
[05:18] <Knightwise> heya ball ! hows it goin
[05:19] <ball> Not too bad. I'm anout to turn in.
[05:19] <ball> There are things I should be doing but I'm too tired to care.
[05:19] <Knightwise> just got up on this end of the blue sphere.
[05:19] <ball> Knightwise: That makes sense.
[05:19] <Knightwise> hahah :) I'm in my productive hour. That quiet hour before the rush starts is when I pound everyone down with my caffinated emails :p
[05:19]  * ball grins
[05:27] <Knightwise> need to get my Raspberry pi 2 finalised today.
[05:27] <Knightwise> Was thinking of using it as a desktop by that is a little overkill. I have plenty of desktops and vms to play with.
[05:32] <ball> My Raspberry Pi is running at the office.
[05:33] <Knightwise> I have a raspberry pi 1 running as my main terminal machine. I ssh into it, vpn into it, it runs irssi, telegram, my calibre server etc
[05:33] <Knightwise> very pleased with it :)
[05:35] <ball> I like mine but I'm looking forward to the better NIC on the Raspberry Pi 2
[05:36] <Knightwise>  I'm gonna try to run Mate on mine. Always handy to have a gui , especially when I want to use it to drag new books into my calibre library
[05:36]  * Knightwise loves to read
[05:37]  * ball nods
[05:37] <ball> I should charge up my Kobo
[05:37] <Knightwise> I have a Kobo too. use it mostly in the summer to read outdoors
[05:38] <Knightwise> when I read indoors or at night I use my tablet
[05:38] <ball> I can understand that.
[05:38] <ball> I've not tried Calibre though.
[05:39] <Knightwise> its great , The web browser on my Kobo even iterfaces with it :)
[05:39] <Knightwise> so i can download books off the calibre webserver on my PI straight to my Kobo
[05:40] <ball> Nice.
[05:41] <ball> I should go to bed.
[05:41] <Knightwise> Get some sleep dude :)
[05:42] <ball> Thanks
[05:42] <ball> I have to be up in a little under five hours
[05:42] <Knightwise> I need my 8 hours or i'm a zombie
[07:01] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:25] <Knightwise> hey MooDoo
[07:25] <Knightwise> how are you doing dude
[07:37] <MooDoo> Knightwise: yeah i'm doing ok thanks, you?
[07:38] <Knightwise> ok for a monday :)
[07:43] <directhex_> there we go, my 2 mystery chips have been added to lspci
[07:44] <MartijnVdS> you have mystery chips?
[07:53] <directhex_> MartijnVdS: two USB controllers not known to pci.ids
[07:53] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:25] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:28] <bashrc> morning
[08:36] <MooDoo> morning davmor2
[08:36] <davmor2> MooDoo: hey dude, how's life?
[08:38] <popey> morning
[08:38] <MartijnVdS> \o
[08:39] <MartijnVdS> I installed *Debian* on my Laptop yesterday.. hadn't actually done that since Ubuntu 4.10 came out :)
[08:39] <popey> golly
[08:40] <MartijnVdS> But somehow I've gotten used to that left sidebar thing ;)
[08:40] <popey> :)
[08:40] <MartijnVdS> (and no other DE seems to provide one easily)
[08:48] <foobarry> i moved plank to the left to make the switch easier for mrs foobarry
[09:10] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:12] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[09:14] <foobarry> my workplace looks quite pleasant in the sun http://i.imgur.com/EabmdcV.jpg
[09:17] <bashrc> looks nice
[09:18] <bashrc> are you on a barge?
[09:18] <foobarry> heh no onthe river bank
[09:19] <foobarry> walking in to work
[09:19] <foobarry> however the river boat people congregrate here in sunny weather
[09:19] <bashrc> I have seen barges with solar panels, so it would be possible to live on a barge and stay connected
[09:20] <foobarry> you can get wifi from the uni with a good antenna
[09:20] <popey> there's a couple of ubuntu contributors who live on boats
[09:20] <zmoylan-pi> break out the cantenna... :-)
[09:20] <foobarry> they should probably have a mesh thing on house boats
[09:21] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Tell a Story Day! :-D
[09:22] <zmoylan-pi> and as soon as you made a mesh network some gobdaw would try and run netflix on it soaking up all the bandwidth
[09:30] <popey> golly https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/592612273782423552
[09:31] <czajkowski> popey: it's a pretty big thing I'm flying home to vote :)
[09:31] <zmoylan-pi> no postal vote?
[09:31] <czajkowski> zmoylan-pi: nope
[09:31] <popey> what are you voting on?
[09:31] <czajkowski> I'lll go BArcelona -> Stockholm -> Shannon and back to UK that week
[09:32] <czajkowski> popey: marriage equality
[09:32] <popey> oh yes.
[09:32] <popey> thought it was abortion
[09:32] <czajkowski> popey: exactly YES :D
[09:32] <zmoylan-pi> AND allowing for a president younger than 35
[09:32] <czajkowski> zmoylan-pi: ag yes that throw away vote
[09:33] <foobarry> voting by proxy not allowed?
[09:33] <czajkowski> nope
[09:34] <zmoylan-pi> a lot of folk on twitter seem to have sorted the postal vote thing
[09:34] <foobarry> i already voted in teh UK general election
[09:34] <bashrc> vote early and often
[09:34] <foobarry> helps with smug face when people are trying last ditch attempts
[09:38] <czajkowski> popey: see pm :)
[09:46] <foobarry> evernote is really annoying sometimes
[09:46] <foobarry> certain lack of intuivity
[09:47] <zmoylan-pi> you'd think by now all devices would have a memopad like one in palmos that 'just worked'
[09:47] <foobarry> what's google keep thing like?
[09:47] <foobarry> they could rule the market
[09:47] <foobarry> as evernote seem to struggle
[09:48] <foobarry> doesn't quite seem to be achieving the same thing as evernote
[09:49] <foobarry> i use evernote as a document storage system, not a temporal post it throaway todo list thing
[09:55] <diplo> foobarry: I use keep, works ok for me but I only use it for shopping lists and things like that
[10:02] <zmoylan-pi> i use a text file in dropbox.  separated by dates and hashtags.  works for me.
[10:05] <bashrc> I use a git repo and org-agenda
[10:06] <popey> https://twitter.com/harrym/status/592618805542711296 interesting to anyone running wordpress
[10:08] <bashrc> years ago I stopped using wordpress mainly because it seemed a chore to maintain. There seemed to be a never-ending stream of security patches
[10:08] <popey> well, it auto updates now
[10:08] <popey> but it's zero day today
[10:08] <davmor2> JamesTait: Once upon a time in a galaxy far far away telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl
[10:09] <bashrc> for blogging I now use a flat file based system. far easier to maintain and with a smaller attack surface
[10:09] <zmoylan-pi> isn't everyday a zero day for wordpress? :-P
[10:18] <ali1234> heh, that vuln is weaksauce
[10:18] <ali1234> who enables the online plugin and theme editors anyway?
[10:19] <zmoylan-pi> if the platform is aimed at a lot of non technical people... many
[10:20]  * awilkins remembers a WordPress instance with over 100 plugins enabled at his old job
[10:22] <awilkins> On Windows
[10:23] <zmoylan-pi> did they leave the doors and windows unlocked too just to be sure? :-P
[10:54] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[10:59] <davmor2> bigcalm: how do chap how's life?
[11:01] <popey> bigcalm: enjoying GTA5? :)
[11:03] <bigcalm> davmor2: not too shabby ta, yourself?
[11:03] <bigcalm> popey: yes. Loving it. Having to play in short bursts though. Otherwise I'd get sucked in for hours
[11:04] <popey> heh
[11:04] <davmor2> bigcalm: a tiny bit busy but other than that grand thanks and looking forward to the caravan for the long weekend :)
[11:04] <bigcalm> Also, I had been close to rage quitting on the Rampage mission
[11:04] <popey> I dialed down the detail and it now runs at a decent framerate here
[11:05] <bigcalm> For the most part it looks fine to me. Little bit jerky in the city with lots happening though. Might dial it down as well
[11:05] <bigcalm> Love Trevor. He is so well written
[11:05] <bigcalm> That said, he also scares the crap out of me
[11:05] <bigcalm> davmor2: busy? But the release has happened. Surely you should be relaxing now
[11:06] <bigcalm> popey: have you tried the online bit yet?
[11:06] <popey> briefly
[11:06] <bigcalm> Same
[11:06] <popey> i have it at 720p which made a big difference
[11:06] <bigcalm> Are you popeydc, by any chance?
[11:06] <bigcalm> Interesting
[11:07] <popey> yes
[11:07] <popey> at 1080p i was running ~30 fps
[11:07] <popey> now it's 720p at ~70+ fps
[11:07] <bigcalm> Oh dear
[11:07] <popey> still looks great.
[11:07] <bigcalm> Cool. Will play later tonight
[11:07] <popey> heh
[11:08] <bigcalm> I think I'm enjoying this more than IV
[11:08] <bigcalm> The sense of freedom is very welcome
[11:08] <popey> yeah, totally
[11:08] <popey> not getting 5* for crossing a bridge is nice
[11:08] <popey> stealing a helicopter and flying away is fun
[11:09] <popey> i do like the scammers who try to claim someone is being attacked and when you give chase they attack you
[11:09] <popey> I usually gave my gun out ready :)
[11:09] <bigcalm> Oh!
[11:09] <bigcalm> I hadn't thought that some of them might be scammers
[11:10] <bigcalm> I've bought suppressors for all of my guns. Makes life a lot easier
[11:10] <bigcalm> Did you manage to get the bug van without the alarm being raised?
[11:10] <foobarry> hello sir, i'm calling because i've been told you were in a car accident
[11:11] <foobarry> (put on mute after saying hello)
[11:11] <davmor2> oi ubuntu-uk no gta-V-uk ;)
[11:11] <foobarry> i can just hear this little voice on the phone on my desk
[11:11] <foobarry> hello...hello...can you hear me?
[11:11]  * bigcalm tickles davmor2 with some fun
[11:12]  * popey fills in his lenovo battery recall form
[11:12] <popey> biab
[11:20] <popey> bah no eligible
[11:22] <bigcalm> Danger of explosion?
[11:24] <popey> http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/hf004122#special
[11:24] <diplo> popey / bigcalm not played gta v at all before ?
[11:24] <bigcalm> diplo: no
[11:24] <diplo> OK, tip I learned after :)
[11:24] <popey> no
[11:24] <bigcalm> diplo: The only console I have is a Wii U
[11:24] <diplo> When you get to the Lester scenes, buy stocks in whatever company he asks you to do something about :)
[11:25] <bigcalm> Makes sense
[11:25] <diplo> Makes life a lot easier, I'm debating playing it again to do that, quite enjoyed it
[11:25] <diplo> Would like it on the PC, but I don't think my old beast could run it
[11:25] <bigcalm> Except for Live Invader. As we made the price plummet
[11:26] <diplo> Might also try for gold / 100% on everything this time
[11:27] <bigcalm> I like that I can play with an Xbox 360 controller for everything and then switch over to keyboard and mouse when I need to play with guns
[11:27] <bigcalm> Terrible at aiming with a job pad
[11:30] <diplo> So am I, although got better
[11:30] <diplo> Bought the kids Halo this weekend, I was actually quite good at it :P_
[11:30] <bigcalm> You bought it for yourself
[11:35] <popey> I can't watch films set in NY or LA now without thinking of GTA :)
[11:36] <TwistedLucidity> popey: Yikes! I have two Lenovo 9-cells here....
[11:36] <diplo> bigcalm haha, nah kids have been hounding me for ages
[11:36] <diplo> Their friends play it
[11:36] <popey> i had to fill the form in manually because the auto-detector thing requires windows
[11:36] <TwistedLucidity> If the Lenovo site ever loads, I might be able to find out
[11:36] <popey> it actually asks you why you're doing it manually!
[11:37] <TwistedLucidity> "Because you hate freedom, Lenovo"
[11:37] <ali1234> yes, is it a free form field?
[11:37] <TwistedLucidity> popey: Site is so very, very s-l-o-w.....
[11:37] <popey> yes
[11:39] <TwistedLucidity> Is this a new recall? Because Lenovo have had to do this many, many times
[11:39] <ali1234> any details on the actual fault?
[11:39] <popey> i have no idea, i got the link from foobarry last week iirc
[11:39] <TwistedLucidity> ali1234: All the previous ones have been about over-heating, fire, explosion, stealing your last Rolo
[11:39] <ali1234> TwistedLucidity: says they are expanding the existing recall
[11:40] <TwistedLucidity> I wouldn't know, I can't get on the site!
[11:40] <ali1234> well now you do :)
[11:40] <ali1234> april 21st 2015
[11:41] <davmor2> yay mine's not listed
[11:41] <ali1234> nor mine, but it is really old
[11:41] <TwistedLucidity> Damned thing just times out....
[11:41] <ali1234> problem may be at your end, it works fine here
[11:41] <ali1234> it's not even slow
[11:42] <davmor2> popey: my laptop is about 2 and 1/2 years old so you know what that means right :D
[11:42] <TwistedLucidity> ali1234: Site has always been nearly unusable for me
[11:43] <TwistedLucidity> Probably VirginMedia
[11:44] <davmor2> TwistedLucidity: it's slow here but it works I'm on virgin
[11:44] <TwistedLucidity> Works well on Windows, I am going to change my User agent.....
[11:48] <TwistedLucidity> Seems I am no eligible. Guess that's a good thing
[11:53] <popey> TwistedLucidity: works fine here, also on VM
[11:54] <popey> davmor2: mine is over 3 now.
[11:54] <popey> not seen a new one I want
[11:54]  * zmoylan-pi still has an original olpc here...
[11:55] <zmoylan-pi> still the best screen on a mobile device i have ever used
[11:55] <TwistedLucidity> popey: It's find on the Windows box, just not Kubuntu. Very strange
[11:56] <davmor2> popey: this will be 6 years, oh how the time flies :)
[11:59] <popey> https://www.flickr.com/photos/c64tv
[12:03] <zmoylan-pi> jetpac \o/
[12:03] <bigcalm> Fantastic
[12:14] <ali1234> wow
[12:31] <popey> i like the skool daze and paradroid ones
[12:32] <popey> the voxel thing reminds me of cube world
[12:33] <diddledan> I don't get why voxels are being so popular
[12:33] <diddledan> seems everyone and his dog wants to create a voxel game
[12:34] <awilkins> Because Minecraft did so well
[12:35] <awilkins> Have you seen Notch's house?
[12:35] <diddledan> also minecraft seems to be getting everyone to do "low res fctw"
[12:35] <diddledan> ftw**
[12:35] <zmoylan-pi> people don't want minecraft since ms bought it?
[12:35] <diddledan> I wonder what the long-term plan is for minecraft now ms own it
[12:35] <awilkins> Notch's House : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZhM56v9UVQ
[12:36] <awilkins> That's why there are so many voxel games
[12:36] <awilkins> The tail end of people going "Wowzer, that Minecraft thing is doing awfully well, isn't it?" and jumping on the bandwagon
[12:37] <awilkins> I doubt that people stopped liking Minecraft since MS bought it
[12:37] <zmoylan-pi> aren't ms adding downloadable content to minecraft?
[12:37] <zmoylan-pi> i've seen a few complaints already over that
[12:37] <diddledan> that house is way OTT
[12:38] <shauno> I don't think msft have done anything at all with it yet.  the "complaints" are scaremongering
[12:38] <zmoylan-pi> if you were handed a few billion wouldn't you go for volcano lair or evil villan ship instead? :-)
[12:38] <shauno> not to say I trust msft much further than I could throw them, but waiting for them to actually do something before I whine about it :)
[12:39] <awilkins> I would find the house a bit much
[12:39] <diddledan> I don't think I'd like to live there
[12:39] <diddledan> I like cosy
[12:39] <awilkins> Community
[12:40] <diddledan> and community (no, wait, I'm a hermit, community doesn't really count)
[12:40] <awilkins> If I had unlimited money and Elon-Musk-like resources I'd have a town pad within walking distance of all the fun stuff, and a country pad with a nice kitchen garden
[12:40] <awilkins> And a hyperloop subway that went between them in < 10 minutes
[12:41] <zmoylan-pi> or a jetpack...
[12:41] <awilkins> Naah, practical Jetpack technology is basically impossible ATM
[12:42] <zmoylan-pi> ok an autogyro
[12:42] <zmoylan-pi> hipster helicopter :-)
[12:42] <awilkins> Little Nellie from the Bond film
[12:42] <awilkins> Retrohipster
[12:42] <zmoylan-pi> with it's addons of course
[12:43] <diddledan> america are trying to pin a charge of unlicensed aircraft on a guy with an autogiro who landed on some green space outside their capitol building
[12:43] <zmoylan-pi> he was a postman and he was delivering letters...
[12:43] <diddledan> that's the guy
[12:45] <shauno> seems like one of the easier charges to make stick.  they have some exemptions for ultralights but they all have geographic restrictions (built-up areas, airports, etc)
[12:46] <zmoylan-pi> not sure they ever managed to prosecute lawn chair larry
[13:21] <TwistedLucidity> IIRC an autogryo can fly faster than a helicopter
[13:21] <zmoylan-pi> well yes and no.  not much development has gone into them since wwii
[13:21] <zmoylan-pi> and they've pushed helicopters to the limit
[13:22] <TwistedLucidity> Physics is a buggre like that
[13:23] <zmoylan-pi> 293mph for an unassisted (no attached jets for thrust) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurocopter_X3
[13:31] <zmoylan-pi> pity the canadian swingwing didn't take off (pardon the pun) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadair_CL-84
[13:31] <zmoylan-pi> *tiltwing
[13:33] <TwistedLucidity> The Osprey is a thing, innit?
[13:34] <TwistedLucidity> Also there was some X-plane or other that was a jumped-up copter but could lock the "rotors" and in effect have a pair of forward/aft-swept wings
[13:34] <zmoylan-pi> with a horrendous safety record
[13:35] <zmoylan-pi> it's a bit of an f35 in budget terms...
[14:16] <davmor2> TwistedLucidity: yes it's a bird ;)
[14:29] <arsen> hh the macbook 12 1.4 petabyte edition
[18:50] <daftykins> diddledan: two failed disks from the _same user!_
[18:50] <daftykins> D:
[18:51] <diddledan> jeez
[18:51] <diddledan> you're getting silly with it :-p
[18:51] <daftykins> ;]
[18:57] <davmor2> daftykins: well if you will put computers in magnets room you will have to expect this kinda thing
[18:57] <penguin42> what are you doing with them - mri?
[18:58] <daftykins> no these are all helpees asking for support in #ubuntu
[18:58] <daftykins> i tend to go from "my system is a little slow..." to diagnosing a dead disk pretty quick XD
[18:58] <zmoylan-pi> does he work at the sledgehammer testing lab?
[19:05] <diddledan> I think daftykins either has shares in the disc companies OR he invents faults that aren't real
[19:06] <daftykins> :(
[19:06] <daftykins> *disk
[19:06] <diddledan> :-p
[19:06] <diddledan> no, disk is for floppies - disc is for hdds
[19:07] <davmor2> shiny spinning platters?
[19:07] <daftykins> diddledan: you lie!
[19:07] <daftykins> disk is for square, disc is for round \o/
[19:07] <diddledan> nope, it's the truth
[19:07] <daftykins> well, or rectangles
[19:08] <daftykins> -ular :/
[19:08] <diddledan> disk is an abbreviation of diskette whereas disc is a circular thing
[19:08] <daftykins> i disagree
[19:08] <davmor2> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_disk_drive
[19:09] <diddledan> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelling_of_disc
[19:10] <daftykins> ah yes the finest resource known to man
[19:10] <foobarry> hello..
[19:10] <daftykins> hi
[19:11] <diddledan> OED says disk for everything
[19:11] <davmor2> daftykins: http://pcsupport.about.com/od/componentprofiles/p/p_hdd.htm
[19:11] <MartijnVdS> disque
[19:11] <davmor2> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Generic-Hard-Disk-Drive-250GB/dp/B000OUI8QO
[19:11] <daftykins> why are you linking me to this crap 0o
[19:12] <foobarry> so there's some twitter feeds that have lots of dupes
[19:12] <diddledan> aah yes, it's obviously disc with a C for HDDs because windows uses C to indicate such
[19:12] <foobarry> i would like to write a twitter bot that retweets only unique stories and i can follow that instead
[19:12] <diddledan> i.e. C:\windows
[19:12] <foobarry> sound easyish?
[19:12] <diddledan> C:\ means disC:\ :-p
[19:14] <diddledan> I believe, also, that I've earned troll-of-the-day with that one :-D
[19:14] <davmor2> daftykins: sorry it was for diddledan I was backing up your disk argument :D
[19:15] <davmor2> like what I did there :D
[19:15] <diddledan> obviously disks are for KDE users
[19:16] <daftykins> kallthethings!
[19:17] <MartijnVdS> daftykins, davmor2, diddledan: your names confuse :P
[19:18] <daftykins> o0
[19:18] <popey> evening slackers
[19:19] <MartijnVdS> hey popey
[19:19] <diddledan> marnin
[21:47] <mappps> csi cyber seems ok if you stick with it
[21:47] <mappps> did you watch aymore diddledan
[21:47] <mappps> 1st ep sucked but ive carried on..on e8 now
[21:48] <diddledan> mappps: my downloader missed e6 so I haven't seen that or 7 or 8 yet because I didn't want to do it out-of-order
[21:49] <mappps> ah ok
[21:49] <mappps> you agree it got better after e1
[21:50] <diddledan> aye
[21:51] <mappps> i almost dumped it after the 1st ep;p