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Unit193gnumeric 1.12.22-1 uploaded, debian #78213701:05
ubottuDebian bug 782137 in gnumeric "gnumeric: preinst script bails out too easily" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/78213701:05
OvenWerksUnit193: xubuntu-core which icon themes does it include? It seems to not include xubuntu-icon-theme... or at least when I try to install a package that has xubuntu-icon-theme as it's only depends it seems to pull in more stuff.02:21
OvenWerksMaybe I'm missing something.02:22
Unit193adwaita-icon-theme, gnome-icon-theme, gnome-icon-theme-symbolic, hicolor-icon-theme, humanity-icon-theme, xubuntu-icon-theme02:22
Unit193OvenWerks: What recommends?02:22
OvenWerksnone02:22
OvenWerks${misc:Depends} what would that grab?02:23
Unit193Depends.02:23
Unit193apt-cache show $pkg02:23
OvenWerks:)02:23
OvenWerksDepends: xubuntu-icon-theme02:24
Unit193What package?02:25
OvenWerksubuntustudio-icon-theme02:25
OvenWerksWe add about three or four icons on top of elementary-xfce-dark02:25
Unit193So, apt-cache policy xubuntu-icon-theme ?02:26
OvenWerksI'm not on the right boot... so xubuntu-icon-theme:02:28
OvenWerks  Installed: 14.04.202:28
OvenWerks  Candidate: 14.04.202:28
OvenWerks  Version table:02:28
OvenWerks *** 14.04.2 002:28
OvenWerks        500 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/universe amd64 Packages02:28
OvenWerks        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status02:28
OvenWerksThis is from 14.04, but the package I was looking at is the latest from bzr02:28
OvenWerksI'm going to reboot02:31
OvenWerksUnit193: Sorry, I was looking at the wrong package. It is our -look package that needs to be trimed.02:44
Unit193\o/02:44
OvenWerksThats what comes from sleeping on things before acting. I have no idea why our look package drags extra icon themes in... and not our own.02:46
Unit193Depends: gtk2-engines-murrine, murrine-themes (>= 0.98.2), libnewt0.52 (>= 0.52.11-2ubuntu7); Recommends: plymouth-theme-ubuntustudio, ubuntustudio-wallpapers, elementary-icon-theme, ubuntustudio-sounds; Conflicts: ubuntustudio-artwork, ubuntustudio-theme02:47
Unit193You seem to have several packages all split apart.02:48
OvenWerkswe don't use murrine either.02:48
OvenWerksor sounds02:48
OvenWerksSeems like time for some clean up02:49
Unit193Spring cleaning.02:49
OvenWerksI don't know why they are all split into bits. I think some of those are even all the same src.02:54
* Unit193 shrugs.02:54
ochosimorning everyone06:37
elfymorning ochosi :)06:38
elfyso - xfpm, built that, shows when I tell it to, doesn't crash06:40
ochosiok, so the plugin's icon also shows up?06:45
elfyif it's turned on yes 06:46
elfysystray icon I assume you mean06:46
ochosino06:46
ochosithe panel plugin06:46
ochosiyou have to manually add it to the panel if it isnt there yet06:46
ochosiaka step 8 ;)06:47
elfymmm06:48
elfyno icon then06:50
elfyso the one I have sitting in notification area works, the one I just added to panel has no icon06:50
ochosiok07:09
ochosithen you can reproduce the bug, so it's time for me to whip up some debugging code07:10
ochosii'll ping you once it's ready, thanks for now elfy 07:10
elfyochosi: okey doke 07:10
ochosielfy: ok, just emailed you a patch with some instructions07:17
elfyI assume if I get no response from git apply patchname that it did it? 07:24
ochosiyup07:29
elfyok - well all I am seeing in terminal after starting the panel is stuff about the weather api07:30
ochosiand the plugin is already added to the panel?07:30
elfyoff to work now - catch up later07:30
ochosiokeydokey07:30
elfyyes - plugin is in panel07:30
ochosiweird07:30
elfyyup07:31
ochosiyou should definitely be getting some output stating the icon name07:31
ochosia warning, to be exact07:31
elfythat was what I expected 07:31
ochosialright, i'll check in with you when you're back07:32
elfyyup07:32
elfyif I get time I'll get the Wibbly install sorted first and do the whole lot in a clean install too 07:33
elfyback later 07:33
bluesabregood morning everyone10:46
ochosihey bluesabre 10:58
bluesabrehey ochosi11:03
bluesabrewhats up?11:03
ochosioh, working working working :)11:03
ochosiyou?11:03
bluesabrenot much atm, just waking up11:05
ochosi:)11:05
ochosii saw i missed out on some greeter fun over the weekend11:05
bluesabreyeah, need to make sure the PPA is up to date and get some testing11:06
bluesabrewill probably get that rolling, and the xfpm-gtk3 ppa tonight11:07
ochosiactually you can skip the latter part11:08
ochosielfy already reproduced the bug and i sent him a potential bugfix a few hrs ago11:08
ochosiso we'll see how that goes11:08
bluesabrecool11:09
ochosiif it goes well, i'll ask the OP to reproduce as well and then i'll release 1.5.011:09
bluesabreawesome11:09
ochosiso we can get proper testing with a proper release11:09
bluesabrevery nice work11:09
ochosiand then i can sneak in my small improvements for the panel plugin finally :)11:09
bluesabre:)11:09
ochosialready have ideas for 15.10?11:10
bluesabreI've been updating my site and getting motivated to start coding and blogging again11:10
bluesabrewill probably work on fixing bugs in each of my apps and doing minor releases before getting into the bigger stuff11:11
bluesabrealso need to look at the lxpanel plugin11:12
bluesabrefor xfpm11:12
ochosirighty, there was a (very reasonable) request to make ctrl+q close catfish's window11:12
bluesabreyup11:12
ochosii'm also in favor of porting catfish to CSD ;)11:13
bluesabrei might experiment with that and push out an experimental branch11:14
ochosibluesabre: we could start testing the pulseaudio panel plugin as a replacement for indicator-sound+xfce4-volumed11:28
ochosithe only thing missing from it are the mpris playback controls, all other features (multimedia-keys, notifications, link to open pavucontrol) are there11:29
elfyochosi: got new patch, applied that, no change11:34
ochosithat is just weird11:34
ochosihm, but thanks for testing11:35
elfyyea - but who know's what's going on with this install - when I am home properly I'll do a clean install and try there 11:35
ochosisent you another patch11:41
ochosilemme know how that one goes11:41
* ochosi needs a coffee11:41
elfyhttp://pastebin.com/mryJ0sBP11:43
elfynothing about the plugin icon though11:45
bluesabreochosi: that sounds like a good idea, let's look into tha11:56
bluesabret11:56
bluesabregotta run, bbl11:56
ochosielfy: right, try with "PANEL_DEBUG=1 xfce4-panel"11:56
ochosibluesabre: hf!11:56
elfyhttp://pastebin.com/nqMxQCq611:57
elfyrunning now - back later :)11:57
bluesabreochosi: want to start dumping ideas on here and we can weed through them later? https://trello.com/b/s6rhU84c/xubuntu-projects12:02
bluesabreand anybody else, :)12:03
bluesabrealso, haven't reviewed and cleaned up the trello in a little while, so mind the mess ;)12:05
bluesabreNow I'm running on mobile, probably the development board would make more sense ;)12:19
ochosielfy: there's some piece i'm missing, for some reason you're not getting the debug output12:54
ali1234the default xfce theme in manjaro is *really* nice13:05
ali1234and it works on gtk 3.16, so i might switch to that instead of orion13:06
ali1234which means i won't be maintaining orion (if you hadn't guessed)13:06
ochosiwhat theme are they using in manjaro?13:07
ali1234one they made i guess13:07
ochosialright, i'll google it myself13:07
ali1234https://github.com/manjaro/artwork-menda13:07
ali1234based on this http://horst3180.deviantart.com/art/Vertex-Theme-47066360113:08
ochosiali1234: yeah, too pixmapy for my taste, that just slows things down. either way, good you found something that works for you (indicator support for xfce is not really premium though with that theme)13:23
ochosialso, frickin nouveau drivers make my system very unstable. very not cool.13:36
elfyochosi: back, I have removed the git one, reinstalled the repo one, then done all the git stuff once more just to check - no difference14:08
ochosielfy: thanks14:52
ochosii guess something isn't built with debug support14:52
ochosiwhen you initially compile xfpm with "./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr" there's a summary at the end, what does it say about debugging?14:53
elfyDebug: minimum14:55
ochosiright, maybe try to rebuild with "./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr --enable-debug=yes"15:09
jjfrv8ochosi, what are the symptoms you're seeing with the nouveau drivers?15:10
elfybaldness as he pulls his hair out ... 15:10
drcNah, that comes from dealing with the QA Lead :)15:11
elfyochosi: well Debug: yes but the output in terminal seems to be the same to me 15:13
jjfrv8biab15:18
ochosijjfrv8: spontaneous reboots and kernel panics16:20
ochosielfy: hmmm16:20
elfysnap - that was my reaction too16:21
ochosimind to paste the output of "upower -d"?16:22
elfyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/10913127/16:22
ochosithat's all?16:25
ochosiok, wow, that's pretty little16:25
ochosibut good to know16:25
elfyexpecting loads? 16:33
ochosiyeah, well, more than that at least16:39
ochosianyway, gotta run16:39
ochosibbl16:39
lderanright then, now i have some some form of "back"ness, is there anything pressing i can help with?18:09
elfyhi lderan 18:12
lderanhi elfy :)18:12
elfywelcome back ish :p18:13
lderanwell should be back properly now, should of really been last week but alas not according the universe :P18:13
elfysuch is the way of it ;)18:13
lderanaye :P18:15
elfylderan: I'd guess that ochosi and bluesabre would be the ones in the know :)18:34
lderanaye will have to poke them :)18:34
bluesabrelderan: may have something fun for you shortly22:50
lderanoo22:50
bluesabre:)22:51
bluesabrewhat are you interested in currently? code, docs, testing?22:52
Unit193bluesabre: Are you going to try and get xfdashy and -pulseaudio in Debian?23:10
bluesabreyeah, I think that should be a realistic goal now23:42
bluesabreparticularly if we are starting to evaluate -pulsey for xuby23:43
Unit193Have fun! :---D23:47

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