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lordievaderGood morning.07:47
RiddellScottK: more sru love in 144947210:12
Riddellbug 144947210:12
ubottubug 1449472 in kfilemetadata-kf5 (Ubuntu W-series) "officeextractor should depend on catdoc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144947210:12
Sick_RimmitGood morning folks10:22
lordievaderHey Sick_Rimmit 10:22
lordievaderHow are you doing?10:22
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Riddellmorning Sick_Rimmit, have you been persuaded to vote SNP yet?10:24
Sick_RimmitRiddell: No I am voting for the Anonymous candidate, just as soon as I have identified him / her10:26
Sick_RimmitHi lordievader10:26
Sick_RimmitHoping to catch up with ovidiu-florin a little later re UOS10:27
RiddellSick_Rimmit: c'mon, worst crisis since the abdication, surely you're intrigued to see it happen? :)10:27
Sick_RimmitRiddell: I gave a "Cast Iron" guarantee that I wouldn't be drawn on this subject10:28
* Sick_Rimmit grins10:28
* lordievader goes to install Plasma5.3 beta10:29
Riddelllordievader: hang on, can you test the final?10:29
Riddelllordievader: it's in kubuntu-ppa/backports10:29
soee:-)10:30
Sick_RimmitBTW: Do we have any Amazon EC2 guru / consultant types in our community ?10:30
Sick_RimmitHere at WiFiSPARK, we looking for some help and advice on setting up a commercial EC2 Rig10:34
lordievaderRiddell: I was actually planing to add the backports ppa. If plasma5.3 final is in there, I'll get that  ;)10:34
Riddellsure, if you pay me by the hour. it's only a few cents but remember I also charge extra for any bandwidth you consume :)10:34
lordievaderRiddell: Just add and update I suppose?10:34
Riddelllordievader: yes please10:34
lordievaderOk, cool.10:34
Sick_RimmitRiddell: If your serious, that could be a possiblity ?10:34
RiddellSick_Rimmit: no I jest I'm afraid10:36
Sick_RimmitRiddell: Of course, that;s what I thought.10:36
Sick_RimmitWell, know that we're potentially looking for someone to help us, point anyone interested in my direction please :-) 10:37
RiddellSick_Rimmit: I'm confused, you make an interesting but opinionated video on EU politics but you don't discuss who to vote for?10:43
Sick_RimmitRiddell: Oh yes I have very strong, and I feel well supported views, but I think it inappropriate to discuss them here.10:44
Sick_RimmitRiddell: I welcome, and congratulate those that make a vote based upon investigation, observation, conviction, and of course having RTFM Read The Flaming Manifesto.. 10:48
* Sick_Rimmit Smiles10:48
ovidiu-florinSick_Rimmit: hey11:00
Sick_Rimmitovidiu-florin: Hi there11:00
ovidiu-florinare you available at 6:30 PM UTC?11:01
ovidiu-florinhttp://everytimezone.com/#2015-4-28,390,cn311:01
ovidiu-florinSick_Rimmit: ^11:01
Sick_Rimmitovidiu-florin: Hi this evening is not good for me11:02
Sick_Rimmitovidiu-florin: But I can do it tomorrow evening, at that time11:03
sitterRiddell: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/vivid_unstable_qt-gstreamer/2/parsed_console/11:03
ovidiu-florinSick_Rimmit: I'll be out of reach starting tomorrow evening11:03
ovidiu-florintill Monday11:04
Sick_RimmitOh boy11:04
soee!bug 141205711:05
ubottubug 1412057 in nvidia-prime (Ubuntu) "nvidia-prime 0.7 does not work as expected in 15.04" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141205711:05
soeethere is more and more questions and problems ^ :)11:06
shadeslayerWrong channel ?11:06
ovidiu-florinSick_Rimmit: are you available any other time today?11:07
Riddelllordievader: any problems with 5.3 ?11:07
ovidiu-florinor tomorrow morning?11:07
ovidiu-florinactually I can't do tomorrow morning11:08
ovidiu-florinSick_Rimmit: but you can have a hangout with ahoneybun11:08
ovidiu-florinhe'll fill you in11:08
lordievaderRiddell: It's still installing. Upgrading packages on a netboot ain't fast.11:09
Sick_Rimmitovidiu-florin: Yes, sorry got a call11:21
Sick_Rimmitovidiu-florin: Yes I could do later this evening, but it would be around 21:30 UTC i.e 22:30 GMT11:22
RiddellSick_Rimmit: s/GMT/BST/11:22
Sick_RimmitRiddell: Oh man, I hate timezones11:23
RiddellUTC==GMT always (to within a second or three depending on which UTC you use)11:23
Sick_RimmitRiddell: I don't know11:23
Sick_RimmitRiddell: I want the world to got to UTC, then I know what time it is11:23
RiddellI'm afraid humans don't work that way :)11:24
Sick_RimmitOK11:24
ovidiu-florinthere is a way11:24
Sick_RimmitRiddell: I wouldn't be so bad if it didn't keep changind11:26
Sick_RimmitSummer Time, Winter Time11:26
Sick_RimmitMy brain just gets lost11:26
Riddellta da http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5311:27
Sick_RimmitRight KDE Clock to my rescue :-)11:29
Riddellta da http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5.311:29
Sick_Rimmitovidiu-florin: So I can meet online at 21:30 UTC11:29
ovidiu-florinit's very late for me11:29
ovidiu-florinbut I'll giv eit a try11:29
ovidiu-florinI'll ask my boss to work remotely tomorrow11:30
ovidiu-florinif he sais yes, I can make it11:30
Sick_Rimmitovidiu-florin: I know, I'm sorry.11:30
Sick_Rimmitovidiu-florin: SO it will be Hangout at 21:30 UTC, this evening. Will you please send me invite11:31
ovidiu-florinI'll contact you and send you th ehangout link11:31
Sick_Rimmitovidiu-florin: Perfect, this sounds very good11:33
ovidiu-florinso it will be at 937.beats11:33
ovidiu-florinhttp://www.swatch.com/en/internet-time11:33
Riddellprth: any news on gsoc?11:41
RiddellScottK: bug 1448929 needs another fix I just uploaded12:00
ubottubug 1448929 in libqapt (Ubuntu W-series) "fix apt states" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144892912:00
sitterRiddell: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/vivid_unstable_qapt/30/12:09
lordievaderRiddell: Plasma5.3 seems to be working without problems.12:21
BluesKajHiyas all12:24
soeehiho BluesKaj12:24
BluesKajHi soee12:24
Riddelllordievader: awooga!12:25
lordievaderRiddell: indeed \o/12:25
soeea lot of people have problems with 15.04, im glad the stap to use sddm, systemd and plasma5 was done in this release, now we have time to make LTS much better ;-)12:28
prthRiddell, I was shocked to see that instead of the Ubiquity proposal, my backup proposal got selected12:37
prthRiddell, though I had submitted Ubiquity proposal on the first day while the backup proposal on the last day12:38
prthRiddell, moreover no one is selected to port ubiquity12:39
ovidiu-florinport to what?12:41
prthRiddell, even valorie helped me on the ubiquity proposal by reviewing it12:41
prthovidiu-florin, PyQt512:41
ovidiu-florinaha12:43
ovidiu-florinis there a roadmap for that port?12:43
Riddellnot now12:43
prthovidiu-florin, https://community.kde.org/GSoC/2015/Ideas#Project:_Port_Ubiquity_to_Qt_512:43
ovidiu-florinshouldn't that be PyKDE 5?12:44
Riddellthere is no pykde 5 that works12:45
Riddelland ubiquity got rid of kde classes a while ago for simplicity12:46
Riddellprth: what's your backup proposal?12:46
prthRiddell, Multimonitor support for Nuancier under Fedora12:46
Riddellah, another distro :(12:47
Riddellvalorie: any idea why that happened? ↑12:50
prthRiddell, we can atleast port it this summer12:51
Sick_Rimmitovidiu-florin: sorry got call away again, IBM, Yes @937.beats is good12:56
mparilloI installed the 5.3 backports on real hardware. All is good there. Not as good on a Virtual Box guest on a Kubuntu host. I will be looking at bugs.kde.org to see if anybody gives VB more attention than they did VMware Player https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34646713:04
ubottuKDE bug 346467 in general "Plasma 5.2.95 works on HW, but not in VMware Player" [Normal,Resolved: downstream]13:04
sheytanHey guys! Just upgraded to plasma 5.3, but there's no bluetooth applet in the tray and there's no KCM for the config. Do i have to install something extra?13:20
Riddellsheytan: alas bluedevil isn't updated because ubuntu haven't updated to bluez513:21
soeesheytan: i think its not ready yet, or held back13:21
Riddellbluedevil should still install (it'll be the kdelibs4 version)13:22
sheytanRiddell: when will it be ready, do you know?13:22
Riddellyou can then run  kcmshell4 bluedevildevices13:23
RiddellI've no idea, it was due ages ago13:23
sheytani don't want to mess with the k4 libs13:23
sheytan;)13:23
sheytanwill wait, thanks :)13:23
soeeRiddell: do you plan Plasma 5.4 meeting any soon?13:27
Riddellsoee: 5.4 kickoff meeting here Thursday 30th 13:00UTC (15:00 central europe)  says #plasma topic13:28
soeeRiddell: cool, thanks13:29
BluesKajhad to reinstall clean to both / and ?home , plasma 5.3 just didn't work well on this drive , altho it works fine on the other HDD connected to this pc, but it was an earlier install, so there's a bug somewhere in between the 2 installs 13:34
=== Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - 10 years of friendlyness | Applications 15.04 Status http://goo.gl/JnVN6h | plasma 5.3 http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.3.0_vivid.html | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | 15.04 is out - release the plasma! | Reviews: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10914818/ | schedule kickoff meeting http://doodle.com/aw776mz6m6qyhvvt
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RiddellScottK: bug 1449583 for sru love14:16
ubottubug 1449583 in muon (Ubuntu W-series) "notifications won't stop popping" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144958314:16
BluesKajwell, well, well, plasma 5.3 is finally working correctly on this drive, halleluya :-)14:55
ovidiu-florinRiddell: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344452 mentions a new package in your ppa, why isn't that in a Kubuntu PPA?15:52
ubottuKDE bug 344452 in general "Video recording not working" [Grave,Needsinfo: waitingforinfo]15:52
ovidiu-florinjose: ping15:53
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: ping15:53
Riddellovidiu-florin: I only made it yesterday from an unreleased kamoso that needs an unreleased purpose that needs an unreleased kcoreaddons15:53
ovidiu-florinoh15:54
ovidiu-florinRiddell: how could I test that? without breaking my working system?15:54
Riddellinstall and run it15:56
Riddellmparillo: worth a wire post? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/kde-plasma-5-3-released-heres-how-to-upgrade-in-kubuntu-15-0416:02
Riddellalthough they do highlight bluetooth which we don't support :(16:03
mparilloYes, lack of bluetooth showed in a comment on a G+ post. Fortunately the comment was auf Deutsch ;-)16:04
mparilloIf I note that bluetooth will come later from the larger Ubuntu repositories is that (1) correct and (2) politically correct?16:05
Riddellit's probably not correct16:06
Riddellbluez5 is quite a big change so it won't be SRUed16:06
Riddellit was here but that's not up to date https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/transitions16:06
Riddellsgclark: I think that's http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_15.04.0_vivid.html as tidy as it can be,needs the missing packages added still then it's good to test16:08
* Riddell out16:08
ovidiu-florinRiddell: I'm gonna have some fun with btrfs :D16:14
Sick_Rimmitsgclark: Ping16:35
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ovidiu-florinahoneybun: ping19:55
_Groo_hey all20:53
_Groo_can someone help me20:53
_Groo_fresh install of kubuntu vivid, kf5 5.220:53
_Groo_no bluetooth whatsoever, neither in system settings, or the panel20:53
_Groo_works in windows, works in unity, bluez e bluedevil are installed20:53
_Groo_upgraded to 5.3 final from backports20:54
_Groo_same, no bluetooth20:54
_Groo_am i missing something here?20:54
ovidiu-florinthe kcm wasn't ported AFAIK20:55
vipovidiu-florin: 5.3 maybe?20:56
ovidiu-florindon't know20:56
_Groo_nope20:58
_Groo_not in 5.3 20:58
_Groo_so, we shipped without bluetooth support?20:58
_Groo_thats nice :P20:58
Riddell_Groo_: alas ubuntu didn't port their stuff to bluez5 and plasma needs bluez520:59
Riddellkcmshell4 --list |grep blue lists the modules20:59
Riddellkcmshell4 bluedeviladapters   runs them20:59
_Groo_groo@hydra:~$ kcmshell4 --list |grep blue21:01
_Groo_bluedeviladapters          - Configure Bluetooth adapters21:01
_Groo_bluedevildevices           - Manage Bluetooth devices21:01
_Groo_bluedeviltransfer          - Configure Bluetooth file sharing and transfers21:01
_Groo_so, just missing the kcm?21:01
* ovidiu-florin is migrating his LVM partitions to BTRFS on my system while running.... living risky21:02
_Groo_ovidiu-florin: ahah21:06
_Groo_Riddell: but if bluez works and bluedevil works, why the kcm wasnt ported? 21:06
_Groo_Riddell: since its just a module for systemsettings21:06
_Groo_Riddell: ping21:10
* sick_rimmit kerdunch....21:11
sick_rimmitEvening folks21:11
ahoneybunovidiu-florin: png21:16
sgclarkRiddell: oh it looks like you are uploading the missing ones, thanks and sorry yesteerday was a crazy travel day, needed extra rest21:16
Riddell_Groo_: bluedevil now needs bluez5 which isn't in ubuntu because ubuntu unity didn't port their stuff21:24
Riddellsgclark: aye doing the last ones manually now21:25
sgclarkI am working on jkstars21:25
sgclarkerr kstars21:25
sgclarkkde-devel-utils done21:26
Riddellgroovy, I'm on kdeartwork21:26
sgclarkk21:26
sgclarkonto libkdcraw21:27
Riddellwaa kmag broke http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_15.04.0_vivid.html21:27
sick_rimmitOK Folks where is the Hangout at ?21:29
ahoneybun?21:29
sgclark?21:29
Riddell21:30
sick_rimmitI understand ovidiu-florin has arranged a Hangout to discuss UOS and Kubunut21:30
sick_rimmitLeast ways thats is what we discussed ealier21:30
Riddell21:31
ovidiu-florin__hello sick_rimmit21:32
ovidiu-florin__yes, I'm having a small isssu21:32
ovidiu-florin__e21:32
sick_rimmitOK No rush I'm just catching up with ahoneybun Doodle stuff21:33
ovidiu-florin__ok, awesome21:33
ovidiu-florin__brb21:33
ahoneybunovidiu-florin__: want me to try to host?21:33
ovidiu-florinfixed now21:36
sgclarkRiddell: working on okteta now21:37
Riddellkdeartwork uploading slowly21:38
sgclarkhehe that is a big one21:38
sick_rimmitOK I am ready when you guys are21:40
ovidiu-florinsick_rimmit: ahoneybun I've sent you the link21:41
ovidiu-florinRiddell: care to join?21:41
sgclarkRiddell: working on kde-wallpapers21:44
_Groo_anyone working on the bluetooth kcm?21:47
ahoneybunRiddell: the times you put on doodle are weird for me (yes I set my timezone)21:49
Riddellahoneybun: the uod one?21:53
Riddellthat';21:53
ahoneybunyea UOS21:53
Riddellthat';s the times they give21:53
ahoneybunit shows that it starts at 9am here but I think it starts at 2pm or so here21:54
RiddellStarts: Tue, 05 May 2015 14:00:00 UTC21:55
ahoneybunok thats 10pm here21:57
ahoneybunoops21:57
ahoneybun10am21:57
sgclarkhmm it said 6am for me, that does not add up21:57
Riddellmm I think I entered the utc times as if they were spanish times, so 2 hours off21:58
sgclarkRiddell: assuming ktux is still broken? kde-runtime should finish us up?21:59
Riddellsgclark: awooga!22:00
ahoneybunRiddell: sadly it seems I can't make any of those times22:00
Riddellahoneybun: maybe we should just do our own thing outwith uos22:00
Riddellas ScottK blogged, there's not any category for ubuntu projects anyway22:01
ahoneybunI saw that22:01
ahoneybunI agree with somethings he said Riddell22:01
ahoneybunI just don't a wedge to get put between us all22:02
ahoneybun*want a wedge22:03
Riddellsgclark: but the kdeapplications-packages-vivid.txt file wasn't updated, doing now..22:04
ahoneybunRiddell: I'd help out with it of course if we do.22:05
sgclarkRiddell: ok thanks22:06
sgclarkRiddell: woah wait what happened22:06
Riddellsgclark: I updated kdeapplications-packages-vivid.txt22:07
Riddelllooks like a bunch more todo22:07
Riddellsgclark: I'll start with  kaccounts-integration, kaccounts-providers22:10
sgclarkokies working on kdenlive22:12
Riddellsgclark: I don't know if we have packaging for that22:13
Riddellit's not maintained by pkg-kde in debian22:13
sgclarkhmm it cloned22:13
Riddellsgclark: mm looks like sitter imported it http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/kdenlive.git/22:14
Riddellso go ahead22:14
sgclarkk22:14
Riddellsgclark: I'll try a mass update for the ktp ones22:22
sgclarkok cool22:22
Riddelljussi: life not so good back home I read? http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/15/finland-boom-election-recession-oulu-miracle-timber-nokia22:30
Riddell'Not as bad as Greece, yet, but it's only matter of time'  ouch22:30
ahoneybunRiddell: we should do a hangout to discuss the possible future KOS!22:35
sgclarkKOS?22:36
Riddellaaarga I uploaded kdeartwork to the next-stage ppa not next-stage222:38
sgclarkdoh22:39
=== Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - 10 years of friendlyness | Applications 15.04 Status http://goo.gl/JnVN6h | plasma 5.3 http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.3.0_vivid.html | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | 15.04 is out - release the plasma! | Reviews: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10914818/ | schedule kickoff meeting http://doodle.com/fxviqanfmdzng7id
Riddellnew schedule kickoff meeting http://doodle.com/fxviqanfmdzng7id22:44
Riddellfixed times22:44
ahoneybunvoted22:48
Riddellsgclark: onto  libkgeomap22:51
sgclarkRiddell: I uploaded okteta, not sure why it is listed as not there22:52
sgclarkRiddell: working on signon-kwallet22:52
Riddellhttps://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next-stage2/+packages?field.name_filter=okteta&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=22:54
Riddellsgclark: no okteta there22:54
sgclarkhmm22:54
Riddelldid you upload to the right place? whatdoes your e-mail say?22:54
Riddellor are you confusing it with okular, easily done :)22:55
sgclarklet me check mail22:55
sgclarkRiddell: PPA exceeded size again22:57
Riddellmeh22:57
Riddellwgrant: we need your space making powers please https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/26606822:59
Riddellsgclark: well I guess that puts a stop to packaging for tonight,but it's mostly ready to test23:01
wgrantsec23:01
Riddellooh.. :)23:02
sgclarkhehe23:02
wgrantRiddell: Done.23:05
Riddellwgrant: you are all powerful!23:05
Riddellsgclark: I'll get onto  signon-kwallet-extension then23:06
sgclarkThat is what I am working on23:06
sgclarkRiddell: ^23:06
wgrantI try.23:06
sgclarkthink ktp-contact-list is all left23:06
ScottKRiddell: Probably Thursday before I can look at SRUs.23:08
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: 1:17:4423:08
ovidiu-florinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FR42SzuQz0&ab_channel=Ovidiu-FlorinBOGDAN23:08
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: ^23:08
ahoneybunthanks ovidiu-florin23:08
ScottKahoneybun: if there's a wedge, I didn't put it there. 23:09
ahoneybunScottK: not blaming anyone or group23:09
ahoneybunI just don't want it to get too big23:10
Riddellsgclark: ktp-contact-list up23:10
RiddellI'll leave signon-kwallet-extension to you23:10
sgclarkhmm23:11
sgclarkwell I am having issues commiting23:11
sgclarkpushing rather23:11
sgclarkoh we both made a watch file I guess23:12
Riddelluh oh,git confusion!23:13
* Riddell steps back from the git23:14
ScottKGit is confusion. 23:14
ScottKLove the Git.23:15
Riddellsgclark: hmm ktp packages are stuck on needing libtelepathy-logger-qt-dev23:25
sgclarkseems so23:26
Riddellwe have telepathy-logger-qt5 which makes libtelepathy-logger-qt5-dev23:26
Riddelland we presumably want to upgrade to http://download.kde.org/stable/telepathy-logger-qt/15.0423:26
sgclarkokies23:27
Riddelle-mailed harald/list about what to do there23:28
sgclarksounds good thanks23:28
sgclarkwhat about libktp-dev?23:28
Riddelland uploaded libkgeomap23:29
Riddelllibktp-dev is part of ktp-common-interanals which is waiting on libtelepathy-logger-qt-dev23:29
Riddellbut I don't know what to do with libtelepathy-logger-qt-dev because that's not the name used currently in the archive23:29
sgclarkright ok, so that should resolve when we resolve libtelepathy23:30
Riddellit all looks good apart from that23:30
Riddellso time for testers I guess :)23:30
sgclarkok, will test as well23:31
Riddell!testers | applications 15.04 in ppa:kubuntu-pps/next-stage223:31
ubottuapplications 15.04 in ppa:kubuntu-pps/next-stage2: testers is Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket, SourBlues, sgclark, neo31, vip for information23:31
Riddellsgclark: and looks like libkgeomap needs build-deps added23:34
* Riddell snoozes23:34
sgclarkRiddell: ok, on it23:35

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