[07:47] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:12] <Riddell> ScottK: more sru love in 1449472
[10:12] <Riddell> bug 1449472
[10:22] <Sick_Rimmit> Good morning folks
[10:22] <lordievader> Hey Sick_Rimmit 
[10:22] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[10:24] <Riddell> morning Sick_Rimmit, have you been persuaded to vote SNP yet?
[10:26] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: No I am voting for the Anonymous candidate, just as soon as I have identified him / her
[10:26] <Sick_Rimmit> Hi lordievader
[10:27] <Sick_Rimmit> Hoping to catch up with ovidiu-florin a little later re UOS
[10:27] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: c'mon, worst crisis since the abdication, surely you're intrigued to see it happen? :)
[10:28] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: I gave a "Cast Iron" guarantee that I wouldn't be drawn on this subject
[10:28]  * Sick_Rimmit grins
[10:29]  * lordievader goes to install Plasma5.3 beta
[10:29] <Riddell> lordievader: hang on, can you test the final?
[10:29] <Riddell> lordievader: it's in kubuntu-ppa/backports
[10:30] <soee> :-)
[10:30] <Sick_Rimmit> BTW: Do we have any Amazon EC2 guru / consultant types in our community ?
[10:34] <Sick_Rimmit> Here at WiFiSPARK, we looking for some help and advice on setting up a commercial EC2 Rig
[10:34] <lordievader> Riddell: I was actually planing to add the backports ppa. If plasma5.3 final is in there, I'll get that  ;)
[10:34] <Riddell> sure, if you pay me by the hour. it's only a few cents but remember I also charge extra for any bandwidth you consume :)
[10:34] <lordievader> Riddell: Just add and update I suppose?
[10:34] <Riddell> lordievader: yes please
[10:34] <lordievader> Ok, cool.
[10:34] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: If your serious, that could be a possiblity ?
[10:36] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: no I jest I'm afraid
[10:36] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: Of course, that;s what I thought.
[10:37] <Sick_Rimmit> Well, know that we're potentially looking for someone to help us, point anyone interested in my direction please :-) 
[10:43] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: I'm confused, you make an interesting but opinionated video on EU politics but you don't discuss who to vote for?
[10:44] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: Oh yes I have very strong, and I feel well supported views, but I think it inappropriate to discuss them here.
[10:48] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: I welcome, and congratulate those that make a vote based upon investigation, observation, conviction, and of course having RTFM Read The Flaming Manifesto.. 
[10:48]  * Sick_Rimmit Smiles
[11:00] <ovidiu-florin> Sick_Rimmit: hey
[11:00] <Sick_Rimmit> ovidiu-florin: Hi there
[11:01] <ovidiu-florin> are you available at 6:30 PM UTC?
[11:01] <ovidiu-florin> http://everytimezone.com/#2015-4-28,390,cn3
[11:01] <ovidiu-florin> Sick_Rimmit: ^
[11:02] <Sick_Rimmit> ovidiu-florin: Hi this evening is not good for me
[11:03] <Sick_Rimmit> ovidiu-florin: But I can do it tomorrow evening, at that time
[11:03] <sitter> Riddell: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/vivid_unstable_qt-gstreamer/2/parsed_console/
[11:03] <ovidiu-florin> Sick_Rimmit: I'll be out of reach starting tomorrow evening
[11:04] <ovidiu-florin> till Monday
[11:04] <Sick_Rimmit> Oh boy
[11:05] <soee> !bug 1412057
[11:06] <soee> there is more and more questions and problems ^ :)
[11:06] <shadeslayer> Wrong channel ?
[11:07] <ovidiu-florin> Sick_Rimmit: are you available any other time today?
[11:07] <Riddell> lordievader: any problems with 5.3 ?
[11:07] <ovidiu-florin> or tomorrow morning?
[11:08] <ovidiu-florin> actually I can't do tomorrow morning
[11:08] <ovidiu-florin> Sick_Rimmit: but you can have a hangout with ahoneybun
[11:08] <ovidiu-florin> he'll fill you in
[11:09] <lordievader> Riddell: It's still installing. Upgrading packages on a netboot ain't fast.
[11:21] <Sick_Rimmit> ovidiu-florin: Yes, sorry got a call
[11:22] <Sick_Rimmit> ovidiu-florin: Yes I could do later this evening, but it would be around 21:30 UTC i.e 22:30 GMT
[11:22] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: s/GMT/BST/
[11:23] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: Oh man, I hate timezones
[11:23] <Riddell> UTC==GMT always (to within a second or three depending on which UTC you use)
[11:23] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: I don't know
[11:23] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: I want the world to got to UTC, then I know what time it is
[11:24] <Riddell> I'm afraid humans don't work that way :)
[11:24] <Sick_Rimmit> OK
[11:24] <ovidiu-florin> there is a way
[11:26] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: I wouldn't be so bad if it didn't keep changind
[11:26] <Sick_Rimmit> Summer Time, Winter Time
[11:26] <Sick_Rimmit> My brain just gets lost
[11:27] <Riddell> ta da http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-53
[11:29] <Sick_Rimmit> Right KDE Clock to my rescue :-)
[11:29] <Riddell> ta da http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5.3
[11:29] <Sick_Rimmit> ovidiu-florin: So I can meet online at 21:30 UTC
[11:29] <ovidiu-florin> it's very late for me
[11:29] <ovidiu-florin> but I'll giv eit a try
[11:30] <ovidiu-florin> I'll ask my boss to work remotely tomorrow
[11:30] <ovidiu-florin> if he sais yes, I can make it
[11:30] <Sick_Rimmit> ovidiu-florin: I know, I'm sorry.
[11:31] <Sick_Rimmit> ovidiu-florin: SO it will be Hangout at 21:30 UTC, this evening. Will you please send me invite
[11:31] <ovidiu-florin> I'll contact you and send you th ehangout link
[11:33] <Sick_Rimmit> ovidiu-florin: Perfect, this sounds very good
[11:33] <ovidiu-florin> so it will be at 937.beats
[11:33] <ovidiu-florin> http://www.swatch.com/en/internet-time
[11:41] <Riddell> prth: any news on gsoc?
[12:00] <Riddell> ScottK: bug 1448929 needs another fix I just uploaded
[12:09] <sitter> Riddell: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/vivid_unstable_qapt/30/
[12:21] <lordievader> Riddell: Plasma5.3 seems to be working without problems.
[12:24] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:24] <soee> hiho BluesKaj
[12:24] <BluesKaj> Hi soee
[12:25] <Riddell> lordievader: awooga!
[12:25] <lordievader> Riddell: indeed \o/
[12:28] <soee> a lot of people have problems with 15.04, im glad the stap to use sddm, systemd and plasma5 was done in this release, now we have time to make LTS much better ;-)
[12:37] <prth> Riddell, I was shocked to see that instead of the Ubiquity proposal, my backup proposal got selected
[12:38] <prth> Riddell, though I had submitted Ubiquity proposal on the first day while the backup proposal on the last day
[12:39] <prth> Riddell, moreover no one is selected to port ubiquity
[12:41] <ovidiu-florin> port to what?
[12:41] <prth> Riddell, even valorie helped me on the ubiquity proposal by reviewing it
[12:41] <prth> ovidiu-florin, PyQt5
[12:43] <ovidiu-florin> aha
[12:43] <ovidiu-florin> is there a roadmap for that port?
[12:43] <Riddell> not now
[12:43] <prth> ovidiu-florin, https://community.kde.org/GSoC/2015/Ideas#Project:_Port_Ubiquity_to_Qt_5
[12:44] <ovidiu-florin> shouldn't that be PyKDE 5?
[12:45] <Riddell> there is no pykde 5 that works
[12:46] <Riddell> and ubiquity got rid of kde classes a while ago for simplicity
[12:46] <Riddell> prth: what's your backup proposal?
[12:46] <prth> Riddell, Multimonitor support for Nuancier under Fedora
[12:47] <Riddell> ah, another distro :(
[12:50] <Riddell> valorie: any idea why that happened? ↑
[12:51] <prth> Riddell, we can atleast port it this summer
[12:56] <Sick_Rimmit> ovidiu-florin: sorry got call away again, IBM, Yes @937.beats is good
[13:04] <mparillo> I installed the 5.3 backports on real hardware. All is good there. Not as good on a Virtual Box guest on a Kubuntu host. I will be looking at bugs.kde.org to see if anybody gives VB more attention than they did VMware Player https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346467
[13:20] <sheytan> Hey guys! Just upgraded to plasma 5.3, but there's no bluetooth applet in the tray and there's no KCM for the config. Do i have to install something extra?
[13:21] <Riddell> sheytan: alas bluedevil isn't updated because ubuntu haven't updated to bluez5
[13:21] <soee> sheytan: i think its not ready yet, or held back
[13:22] <Riddell> bluedevil should still install (it'll be the kdelibs4 version)
[13:22] <sheytan> Riddell: when will it be ready, do you know?
[13:23] <Riddell> you can then run  kcmshell4 bluedevildevices
[13:23] <Riddell> I've no idea, it was due ages ago
[13:23] <sheytan> i don't want to mess with the k4 libs
[13:23] <sheytan> ;)
[13:23] <sheytan> will wait, thanks :)
[13:27] <soee> Riddell: do you plan Plasma 5.4 meeting any soon?
[13:28] <Riddell> soee: 5.4 kickoff meeting here Thursday 30th 13:00UTC (15:00 central europe)  says #plasma topic
[13:29] <soee> Riddell: cool, thanks
[13:34] <BluesKaj> had to reinstall clean to both / and ?home , plasma 5.3 just didn't work well on this drive , altho it works fine on the other HDD connected to this pc, but it was an earlier install, so there's a bug somewhere in between the 2 installs 
[14:16] <Riddell> ScottK: bug 1449583 for sru love
[14:55] <BluesKaj> well, well, well, plasma 5.3 is finally working correctly on this drive, halleluya :-)
[15:52] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344452 mentions a new package in your ppa, why isn't that in a Kubuntu PPA?
[15:53] <ovidiu-florin> jose: ping
[15:53] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: ping
[15:53] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: I only made it yesterday from an unreleased kamoso that needs an unreleased purpose that needs an unreleased kcoreaddons
[15:54] <ovidiu-florin> oh
[15:54] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: how could I test that? without breaking my working system?
[15:56] <Riddell> install and run it
[16:02] <Riddell> mparillo: worth a wire post? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/kde-plasma-5-3-released-heres-how-to-upgrade-in-kubuntu-15-04
[16:03] <Riddell> although they do highlight bluetooth which we don't support :(
[16:04] <mparillo> Yes, lack of bluetooth showed in a comment on a G+ post. Fortunately the comment was auf Deutsch ;-)
[16:05] <mparillo> If I note that bluetooth will come later from the larger Ubuntu repositories is that (1) correct and (2) politically correct?
[16:06] <Riddell> it's probably not correct
[16:06] <Riddell> bluez5 is quite a big change so it won't be SRUed
[16:06] <Riddell> it was here but that's not up to date https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/transitions
[16:08] <Riddell> sgclark: I think that's http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_15.04.0_vivid.html as tidy as it can be,needs the missing packages added still then it's good to test
[16:08]  * Riddell out
[16:14] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: I'm gonna have some fun with btrfs :D
[16:35] <Sick_Rimmit> sgclark: Ping
[19:55] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: ping
[20:53] <_Groo_> hey all
[20:53] <_Groo_> can someone help me
[20:53] <_Groo_> fresh install of kubuntu vivid, kf5 5.2
[20:53] <_Groo_> no bluetooth whatsoever, neither in system settings, or the panel
[20:53] <_Groo_> works in windows, works in unity, bluez e bluedevil are installed
[20:54] <_Groo_> upgraded to 5.3 final from backports
[20:54] <_Groo_> same, no bluetooth
[20:54] <_Groo_> am i missing something here?
[20:55] <ovidiu-florin> the kcm wasn't ported AFAIK
[20:56] <vip> ovidiu-florin: 5.3 maybe?
[20:56] <ovidiu-florin> don't know
[20:58] <_Groo_> nope
[20:58] <_Groo_> not in 5.3 
[20:58] <_Groo_> so, we shipped without bluetooth support?
[20:58] <_Groo_> thats nice :P
[20:59] <Riddell> _Groo_: alas ubuntu didn't port their stuff to bluez5 and plasma needs bluez5
[20:59] <Riddell> kcmshell4 --list |grep blue lists the modules
[20:59] <Riddell> kcmshell4 bluedeviladapters   runs them
[21:01] <_Groo_> groo@hydra:~$ kcmshell4 --list |grep blue
[21:01] <_Groo_> bluedeviladapters          - Configure Bluetooth adapters
[21:01] <_Groo_> bluedevildevices           - Manage Bluetooth devices
[21:01] <_Groo_> bluedeviltransfer          - Configure Bluetooth file sharing and transfers
[21:01] <_Groo_> so, just missing the kcm?
[21:02]  * ovidiu-florin is migrating his LVM partitions to BTRFS on my system while running.... living risky
[21:06] <_Groo_> ovidiu-florin: ahah
[21:06] <_Groo_> Riddell: but if bluez works and bluedevil works, why the kcm wasnt ported? 
[21:06] <_Groo_> Riddell: since its just a module for systemsettings
[21:10] <_Groo_> Riddell: ping
[21:11]  * sick_rimmit kerdunch....
[21:11] <sick_rimmit> Evening folks
[21:16] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: png
[21:16] <sgclark> Riddell: oh it looks like you are uploading the missing ones, thanks and sorry yesteerday was a crazy travel day, needed extra rest
[21:24] <Riddell> _Groo_: bluedevil now needs bluez5 which isn't in ubuntu because ubuntu unity didn't port their stuff
[21:25] <Riddell> sgclark: aye doing the last ones manually now
[21:25] <sgclark> I am working on jkstars
[21:25] <sgclark> err kstars
[21:26] <sgclark> kde-devel-utils done
[21:26] <Riddell> groovy, I'm on kdeartwork
[21:26] <sgclark> k
[21:27] <sgclark> onto libkdcraw
[21:27] <Riddell> waa kmag broke http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_15.04.0_vivid.html
[21:29] <sick_rimmit> OK Folks where is the Hangout at ?
[21:29] <ahoneybun> ?
[21:29] <sgclark> ?
[21:30] <Riddell> ⁈
[21:30] <sick_rimmit> I understand ovidiu-florin has arranged a Hangout to discuss UOS and Kubunut
[21:30] <sick_rimmit> Least ways thats is what we discussed ealier
[21:31] <Riddell> ‽
[21:32] <ovidiu-florin__> hello sick_rimmit
[21:32] <ovidiu-florin__> yes, I'm having a small isssu
[21:32] <ovidiu-florin__> e
[21:33] <sick_rimmit> OK No rush I'm just catching up with ahoneybun Doodle stuff
[21:33] <ovidiu-florin__> ok, awesome
[21:33] <ovidiu-florin__> brb
[21:33] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin__: want me to try to host?
[21:36] <ovidiu-florin> fixed now
[21:37] <sgclark> Riddell: working on okteta now
[21:38] <Riddell> kdeartwork uploading slowly
[21:38] <sgclark> hehe that is a big one
[21:40] <sick_rimmit> OK I am ready when you guys are
[21:41] <ovidiu-florin> sick_rimmit: ahoneybun I've sent you the link
[21:41] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: care to join?
[21:44] <sgclark> Riddell: working on kde-wallpapers
[21:47] <_Groo_> anyone working on the bluetooth kcm?
[21:49] <ahoneybun> Riddell: the times you put on doodle are weird for me (yes I set my timezone)
[21:53] <Riddell> ahoneybun: the uod one?
[21:53] <Riddell> that';
[21:53] <ahoneybun> yea UOS
[21:53] <Riddell> that';s the times they give
[21:54] <ahoneybun> it shows that it starts at 9am here but I think it starts at 2pm or so here
[21:55] <Riddell> Starts: Tue, 05 May 2015 14:00:00 UTC
[21:57] <ahoneybun> ok thats 10pm here
[21:57] <ahoneybun> oops
[21:57] <ahoneybun> 10am
[21:57] <sgclark> hmm it said 6am for me, that does not add up
[21:58] <Riddell> mm I think I entered the utc times as if they were spanish times, so 2 hours off
[21:59] <sgclark> Riddell: assuming ktux is still broken? kde-runtime should finish us up?
[22:00] <Riddell> sgclark: awooga!
[22:00] <ahoneybun> Riddell: sadly it seems I can't make any of those times
[22:00] <Riddell> ahoneybun: maybe we should just do our own thing outwith uos
[22:01] <Riddell> as ScottK blogged, there's not any category for ubuntu projects anyway
[22:01] <ahoneybun> I saw that
[22:01] <ahoneybun> I agree with somethings he said Riddell
[22:02] <ahoneybun> I just don't a wedge to get put between us all
[22:03] <ahoneybun> *want a wedge
[22:04] <Riddell> sgclark: but the kdeapplications-packages-vivid.txt file wasn't updated, doing now..
[22:05] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I'd help out with it of course if we do.
[22:06] <sgclark> Riddell: ok thanks
[22:06] <sgclark> Riddell: woah wait what happened
[22:07] <Riddell> sgclark: I updated kdeapplications-packages-vivid.txt
[22:07] <Riddell> looks like a bunch more todo
[22:10] <Riddell> sgclark: I'll start with  kaccounts-integration, kaccounts-providers
[22:12] <sgclark> okies working on kdenlive
[22:13] <Riddell> sgclark: I don't know if we have packaging for that
[22:13] <Riddell> it's not maintained by pkg-kde in debian
[22:13] <sgclark> hmm it cloned
[22:14] <Riddell> sgclark: mm looks like sitter imported it http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/kdenlive.git/
[22:14] <Riddell> so go ahead
[22:14] <sgclark> k
[22:22] <Riddell> sgclark: I'll try a mass update for the ktp ones
[22:22] <sgclark> ok cool
[22:30] <Riddell> jussi: life not so good back home I read? http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/15/finland-boom-election-recession-oulu-miracle-timber-nokia
[22:30] <Riddell> 'Not as bad as Greece, yet, but it's only matter of time'  ouch
[22:35] <ahoneybun> Riddell: we should do a hangout to discuss the possible future KOS!
[22:36] <sgclark> KOS?
[22:38] <Riddell> aaarga I uploaded kdeartwork to the next-stage ppa not next-stage2
[22:39] <sgclark> doh
[22:44] <Riddell> new schedule kickoff meeting http://doodle.com/fxviqanfmdzng7id
[22:44] <Riddell> fixed times
[22:48] <ahoneybun> voted
[22:51] <Riddell> sgclark: onto  libkgeomap
[22:52] <sgclark> Riddell: I uploaded okteta, not sure why it is listed as not there
[22:52] <sgclark> Riddell: working on signon-kwallet
[22:54] <Riddell> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next-stage2/+packages?field.name_filter=okteta&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=
[22:54] <Riddell> sgclark: no okteta there
[22:54] <sgclark> hmm
[22:54] <Riddell> did you upload to the right place? whatdoes your e-mail say?
[22:55] <Riddell> or are you confusing it with okular, easily done :)
[22:55] <sgclark> let me check mail
[22:57] <sgclark> Riddell: PPA exceeded size again
[22:57] <Riddell> meh
[22:59] <Riddell> wgrant: we need your space making powers please https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/266068
[23:01] <Riddell> sgclark: well I guess that puts a stop to packaging for tonight,but it's mostly ready to test
[23:01] <wgrant> sec
[23:02] <Riddell> ooh.. :)
[23:02] <sgclark> hehe
[23:05] <wgrant> Riddell: Done.
[23:05] <Riddell> wgrant: you are all powerful!
[23:06] <Riddell> sgclark: I'll get onto  signon-kwallet-extension then
[23:06] <sgclark> That is what I am working on
[23:06] <sgclark> Riddell: ^
[23:06] <wgrant> I try.
[23:06] <sgclark> think ktp-contact-list is all left
[23:08] <ScottK> Riddell: Probably Thursday before I can look at SRUs.
[23:08] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: 1:17:44
[23:08] <ovidiu-florin> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FR42SzuQz0&ab_channel=Ovidiu-FlorinBOGDAN
[23:08] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: ^
[23:08] <ahoneybun> thanks ovidiu-florin
[23:09] <ScottK> ahoneybun: if there's a wedge, I didn't put it there. 
[23:09] <ahoneybun> ScottK: not blaming anyone or group
[23:10] <ahoneybun> I just don't want it to get too big
[23:10] <Riddell> sgclark: ktp-contact-list up
[23:10] <Riddell> I'll leave signon-kwallet-extension to you
[23:11] <sgclark> hmm
[23:11] <sgclark> well I am having issues commiting
[23:11] <sgclark> pushing rather
[23:12] <sgclark> oh we both made a watch file I guess
[23:13] <Riddell> uh oh,git confusion!
[23:14]  * Riddell steps back from the git
[23:14] <ScottK> Git is confusion. 
[23:15] <ScottK> Love the Git.
[23:25] <Riddell> sgclark: hmm ktp packages are stuck on needing libtelepathy-logger-qt-dev
[23:26] <sgclark> seems so
[23:26] <Riddell> we have telepathy-logger-qt5 which makes libtelepathy-logger-qt5-dev
[23:26] <Riddell> and we presumably want to upgrade to http://download.kde.org/stable/telepathy-logger-qt/15.04
[23:27] <sgclark> okies
[23:28] <Riddell> e-mailed harald/list about what to do there
[23:28] <sgclark> sounds good thanks
[23:28] <sgclark> what about libktp-dev?
[23:29] <Riddell> and uploaded libkgeomap
[23:29] <Riddell> libktp-dev is part of ktp-common-interanals which is waiting on libtelepathy-logger-qt-dev
[23:29] <Riddell> but I don't know what to do with libtelepathy-logger-qt-dev because that's not the name used currently in the archive
[23:30] <sgclark> right ok, so that should resolve when we resolve libtelepathy
[23:30] <Riddell> it all looks good apart from that
[23:30] <Riddell> so time for testers I guess :)
[23:31] <sgclark> ok, will test as well
[23:31] <Riddell> !testers | applications 15.04 in ppa:kubuntu-pps/next-stage2
[23:34] <Riddell> sgclark: and looks like libkgeomap needs build-deps added
[23:34]  * Riddell snoozes
[23:35] <sgclark> Riddell: ok, on it