[06:07] <bzoltan> akiva-thinkpad: just ping me when you need me :)
[06:07] <akiva-thinkpad> bzoltan, heh sure
[06:09] <akiva-thinkpad> bzoltan, balloons tested out the latest branch yesterday. Seems to be doing well. I did a major rewrite making it resemble more of an api than it does a daisy chain of functions.
[06:09] <bzoltan> akiva-thinkpad:  cool, We will check it with zbenjamin too
[06:48] <dholbach> good morning
[06:48] <akiva-thinkpad> dholbach, moring
[06:49] <dholbach> hi akiva-thinkpad
[08:02] <Saviq> popey, hey, are issues with music app on arale known? (play queue advancing is very flaky)
[08:17] <popey> Saviq: not that I'm aware of, can you file a bug if you can reproduce?
[08:17] <Saviq> popey, yeah, will try to gather as much data as possible
[08:17] <popey> thanks!
[09:05] <dholbach> popey, do you want me to schedule the help app blueprint/session?
[09:06] <popey> yes, I wasn't sure when you wanted that
[09:06] <dholbach> ok, no worries
[09:17] <dholbach> popey, I placed it on the schedule and pinged everyone involved - I might still move it around, but I guess that's OK still
[09:55] <Saviq> popey, fyi: bug #1449460
[09:57] <popey> thanks Saviq
[10:51] <akiva-thinkpad> bzoltan, I forget; what are targets again?
[10:52] <akiva-thinkpad> you got build configs, run configs, kits, and targets
[12:12] <dpm> popey, https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/platform/guides/lets-talk-about-performance/
[12:13] <popey> DanChapman: ^^ fyi :)
[12:21] <popey> dpm https://plus.google.com/u/0/116231235687734373591/posts/5EnJQjCFn6E
[12:30] <om26er> Elleo, Hi! do you if Arthur will be working today ?
[13:03] <DS-McGuire> popey, Can we discuss the "Ubuntu Help App Planning"? I want to know if you think it's best I sit in the IRC or participate.
[13:05] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire, o/
[13:05] <DS-McGuire> akiva-thinkpad, o/ Hello! How are things?
[13:05] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire, you should definitely participate
[13:06] <akiva-thinkpad> its a lot of fun
[13:06] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire, oh just learned that !myBool() doesn't give false
[13:06] <DS-McGuire> akiva-thinkpad, ahah! Yeah I will, I just don't know if it's best for me to sit in the IRC instead of going on video or whatever. I don't want to get in the way haha!
[13:07] <DanChapman> popey thanks! :-)
[13:07] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire, the more the merrier, trust me
[13:07] <akiva-thinkpad> if you get a chance to be on with stuart, that guy is hilarious.
[13:07] <DS-McGuire> akiva-thinkpad, Probably haha! I will wait for a response from popey to see what's best
[13:08] <akiva-thinkpad> bah
[13:08] <akiva-thinkpad> I just sent "nick" my password
[13:08] <akiva-thinkpad> bloody nickserv
[13:09] <popey> DS-McGuire: any reason you think we wouldn't want you there?
[13:09] <popey> :)
[13:11] <DS-McGuire> popey, haha, well I will be there, I am just confused about how it works. Is it a G+ hangout with an IRC or is it just IRC?
[13:11] <popey> G+ hangout + irc for those who can't make the hangout
[13:14] <DS-McGuire> popey, Okay so I will join the hangout then I guess. I am going to put together what I need for the html classes so I design can be added so it might be best if I am in that, if that's okay with you.
[13:28] <Elleo> om26er: yep; we're all at the sprint in Austin at the moment, so we're just starting the day, he should be on soon
[13:34] <Saviq> popey, I'm trying with arale r26, and one wrong thing at least is track length (0:00) of the first track I played, was it correct for you?
[13:34] <popey> hm, i didnt notice
 DS-McGuire, oh just learned that !myBool() doesn't give false -- rather it doesn't when I declare it locally and in the header
[13:34] <akiva-thinkpad> doh
[13:35] <DS-McGuire> akiva-thinkpad, Oh dear haha!
[13:35] <ahayzen> Saviq, was the track length 00:00 for the first track before/after you started playing it?
[13:37] <Saviq> ahayzen, where do I look?
[13:37] <Saviq> ahayzen, it started at 0:00 straight awa
[13:37] <Saviq> y
[13:38] <Saviq> nowhere else does it show time I think
[13:38] <ahayzen> What i see is when you start the app, it restores you queue, then if you tap the toolbar it displays 00:00 as the position *and* duration...then when you tap play it then gets the correct duration
[13:38] <Saviq> ahayzen, I launched the app, got to an album and went "play all"
[13:39] <Saviq> seems to reproduce reliably
[13:39] <ahayzen> that seems to work for me on mako
[13:39] <Saviq> but only the first time after launching the app
[13:39] <ahayzen> let me try again ... what exactly happens?
[13:41] <ahayzen> Saviq, seems to be fine for me .. but sounds a bit like bug 1438115 which randomly happens on mh2 i'm hoping mh3 has fixed this
[13:42] <ahayzen> popey, do you see what Saviq is describing on arale?
[13:43] <Saviq> ahayzen, popey, https://owncloud.sawicz.net/index.php/s/0afe9e8a599ef8fef2f2a105e9db357d#
[13:44] <popey> Saviq: what format is that file?
[13:44] <Saviq> popey, whatever Cheese records ;)
[13:44] <ahayzen> Saviq, magic :) that is like bug 1438115 ... but reproducible
[13:44] <popey> no, i mean the music
[13:44] <Saviq> popey, ah, mp3
[13:44] <popey> i never see that. can you send me the mp3 (or full album) ?
[13:45] <popey> or send it to ahayzen :)
[13:45] <ahayzen> yeah that would be useful
[13:46]  * ahayzen wonders if the person who reported that bug would have been on arale as well ... 
[13:50] <popey> its possible
[13:59] <Saviq> popey, ahayzen, put it under the same link, you can download the whole dir with a link on the right that shows on hover
[13:59] <ahayzen> thanks :)
[14:02] <ahayzen> seems to work for me on mako, popey can you try on arale ?
[14:02] <popey> ok
[14:03] <Saviq> it's likely a race
[14:03] <Saviq> but 100% reproducible here
[14:03] <Saviq> with different albums, too
[14:03] <ahayzen> weird
[14:03] <ahayzen> oooo
[14:03] <ahayzen> you guys have trunk music...i have a slightly 'newer' one ;)
[14:04] <Saviq> gimme
[14:04] <Saviq> ;)
[14:04] <popey> uh
[14:04] <popey> yeah, same here
[14:05] <mcphail> ahayzen: does the newer music app still hang if you feed it a faulty mp3 file? I was going to investigate further but won't bother if it is fixed already
[14:05] <ahayzen> haha no ;) ... i'm on the /refactor branch with some other prototype code...but i don't think that should affect this looking at the code as we backported fixes to that
[14:05] <popey> ahayzen: http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-04-28-150511.png
[14:05] <ahayzen> popey, :(
[14:05] <ahayzen> mcphail, faulty mp3? it would probably be an issue in media-hub not the music-app .. have you reported this issue?
[14:05] <Saviq> launching a song from scope causes the same
[14:06] <ahayzen> to me sounds like a media-hub issue on arale ... maybe
[14:06] <mcphail> ahayzen: not yet. Was going to investigate/search bugs at the weekend to see if it has been reported already
[14:06] <ahayzen> mcphail, it could be bug 1436110
[14:07] <mcphail> ahayzen: I think the mp3 files are blank alotogether: mtp crashed during transfer. I'm not going to have access to a device to have a proper look until the weekend
[14:07] <ahayzen> mcphail, ah i see
[14:08] <mcphail> ahayzen: for a start, I'm going to have to hunt through a couple of thousand mp3s to find the dodgy ones :)
[14:08] <ahayzen> mcphail, hah ;) you may want to look at the mediascanner2 log and see if that helps
[14:09] <mcphail> ahayzen: good tip. thanks
[14:10] <ahayzen> popey, Saviq, i just tried trunk on mako and it is fine as well... can you try krillin/mako and see if you can get it?
[14:10] <Saviq> ahayzen, yeah, flashing mako now
[14:10] <ahayzen> thanks
[14:10] <popey> ok
[14:11] <popey> ahayzen: Saviq fine on a retail bq phone
[14:11] <popey> http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-04-28-151156.png
[14:12] <Saviq> popey, yeah, likely a race that arale wins (or loses, depends how you define the target here)
[14:13]  * ahayzen wonders if jhodapp has an arale to try/debug on ?
[14:13] <popey> also fine on vivid krillin 198
[14:13] <jhodapp> ahayzen, I do :)
[14:13] <jhodapp> ahayzen, what's up?
[14:13]  * popey updates krillin as it's 3 days out 
[14:13] <popey> nice song btw Saviq
[14:13] <ahayzen> jhodapp, basically the first track that is played ends up looking like the screenshot here https://owncloud.sawicz.net/index.php/s/0afe9e8a599ef8fef2f2a105e9db357d#
[14:13] <ahayzen> (no duration)
[14:14] <ahayzen> but is fine on mako/krillin
[14:15] <Saviq> popey, yeah, that album is real cool
[14:15] <jhodapp> ahayzen, local music?
[14:15] <ahayzen> jhodapp, yeah mp3s
[14:15] <Saviq> jhodapp, yeah, you can grab the album from the same link
[14:15] <jhodapp> ahayzen, ok I can take a look
[14:16] <popey> yeah, i can't reproduce on vivid proposed on krillin, only on vivid-proposed on arale
[14:16] <ahayzen> thanks jhodapp
[14:17] <jhodapp> ahayzen, who's arale is that in the video?
[14:17] <ahayzen> jhodapp, Saviq's
[14:17] <jhodapp> cool
[14:36] <jhodapp> Saviq, popey were you using the latest image one Arale, the one from today?
[14:37] <Saviq> jhodapp, #26 yes
[14:37] <jhodapp> Saviq, thanks
[14:38] <popey> yes
[15:05] <mhall119> bzoltan: beuno: is the new APP_ID format developer.project or project.developer?
[15:07] <mhall119> because on a new project, manifest.json uses project.developer, but the Makefile uses developer.project
[15:09] <beuno> mhall119, package.developer
[15:10] <mhall119> then the Makefile from the template is wrong
[15:10] <mhall119> bzoltan: zbenjamin: what's the correct project for filing bugs against hte SDK templates?
[15:18] <zbenjamin> mhall119: qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu
[15:18] <mhall119> thanks zbenjamin
[15:21] <zbenjamin> mhall119: whats the problem?
[15:25] <mhall119> zbenjamin: APP_ID in the Makefile is backwards
[15:25] <zbenjamin> mhall119: what project type?
[15:27] <mhall119> qmlproject
[15:27] <zbenjamin> mhall119: ah in the Makefile, that should be fixed already
[15:27] <mhall119> zbenjamin: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/+bug/1449622
[15:27] <zbenjamin> mhall119: are you sure you have the most recent version
[15:27] <mhall119> no
[15:27] <mhall119> I'm upgrading everything now and will try agian
[15:36] <zyrox> Is a scope similar to a daemon, like running in the background as long as the phone is on?
[15:42] <balloons> morning akiva-thinkpad :-)
[16:00] <akiva-thinkpad> balloons, morning
[16:00] <akiva-thinkpad> I tossed the runconfig in, its sort of working
[16:00] <balloons> it's live q and a time, but then I have an idea to chat about with you
[16:00] <balloons> akiva-thinkpad, ^
[16:00] <akiva-thinkpad> balloons, well do
[17:12] <akiva-thinkpad> balloons, you said you wanted a quick discussion?
[17:13] <balloons> akiva-thinkpad, yea let's/
[17:13] <akiva-thinkpad> i'll create a todo list on the lp page
[17:13] <balloons> so, is it possible to not lock the UI when you spawn a test now? (since you use the sandbox)
[17:13] <akiva-thinkpad> balloons, needs more testing, but it appears that way
[17:14] <balloons> 2) Did you give adt a try?
[17:14] <akiva-thinkpad> was busy
[17:14] <akiva-thinkpad> so no
[17:14] <balloons> 3) Could we have a separate 'testing' tab on the sidebar, like debug and projects?
[17:14] <akiva-thinkpad> A mode... needs discussion with bzoltan and zbenjamin
[17:15] <balloons> inside the page, it would be nice to have a dashboard of what tests passed / failed
[17:15] <akiva-thinkpad> that might be what the Run Configuration should be for
[17:15] <akiva-thinkpad> balloons, yes agreed
[17:15] <balloons> awesome!
[17:15] <akiva-thinkpad> I'll need to impliment memory, which will be complicated.
[17:15] <balloons> that's really everything I could want / ask for
[17:15] <akiva-thinkpad> cool, I was also thinking of your other suggestiong
[17:15] <akiva-thinkpad> -g
[17:16] <akiva-thinkpad> Adding a menu action where you can enter a string such as "test_happy*", and have it run all those tests
[17:21] <balloons> right
[17:28] <imnichol> Is there an official tutorial for creating a static list in an Ubuntu app?
[17:36] <imnichol> Hm, I think I found what I'm looking for here: https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.10/Ubuntu.Components.ListItems.Caption/
[17:42] <mhall119> zbenjamin: updated to the latest SDK and still have the same bug
[17:42] <keshav> hello :)
[17:42] <dpm> akiva-thinkpad, nice work with the QtCreator testing plugin!
[17:44] <keshav> hi everybody , i made a qml music player named kmusicplay , its toally done in qml , i want publish it, anyone know what dependencies i need to add to control file ??? i added qmlscence etc ..
[17:45] <keshav> am also using ubuntu components as qml components in my project
[17:47] <popey> keshav: you want to publish it where?
[17:48] <keshav> popey:  i want distribute it to ubuntu users i want upload it to ubuntu software center too
[17:48] <popey> keshav: so maybe put it in a ppa?
[17:49] <keshav> popey:  am able to upload it to ppa but what about if it will give dependencies error when the required dependencies are not installed in user's system ?
[17:51] <keshav> popey:  how can i know what my app require to able to run ??? like qmlsence it require to interprete the main.qml
[17:51] <keshav> popey:  any idea ??
[17:51] <akiva-thinkpad> dpm thanks
[17:51] <popey> keshav: maybe look at the music app, that's pure qml and builds to deb.. http://launchpad.net/music-app
[17:51] <popey> you could look and learn from the debian/ folder in there :)
[17:52] <keshav> popey: thanks for the suggestions :)
[17:52] <keshav> popey:  checked the link u gave they are using cmake to build app and making binary ....
[17:53] <ahayzen> keshav, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~music-app-dev/music-app/remix/view/head:/debian/control
[17:53] <keshav> ahayzen:  thanks
[17:54] <keshav> thanks i got it :)
[17:54] <keshav> ahayzen:  thanks for pointing me to the exact file :) :P
[17:55] <ahayzen> no problem :)
[17:55] <keshav> popey:  thanks for help man much appreciated
[17:59] <popey> np
[19:11] <bzoltan> mhall119:  sorry, what bug was it?
[19:17] <mhall119> bzoltan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/+bug/1449622
[20:35] <akiva-thinkpad> Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm how am I gonna do this...
[23:40] <nik90> ahayzen: hey do you still have the bug where sortfiltermodel doesn't work with u1db models?
[23:41] <ahayzen> nik90, there still is a bug for it...i would need to deep search as i've got a new FF profile lol
[23:41] <nik90> ahayzen: no worries, I am just wanted to know that such a bug exists..because I remember you bringing it up during the malta trip if I remember
[23:41] <nik90> s/am/
[23:42] <ahayzen> nik90, yeah it was for like multiple levels IIRC
[23:42] <ahayzen> nik90, if you only had 1 level i thought it might work? or maybe not
[23:42] <nik90> ahayzen: it didnt work for me some time back..ironic that it works with localstorage models but not our own u1db
[23:43] <ahayzen> nik90, bug 1266529
[23:43] <ahayzen> nik90, i've been wanting to move to u1db for nearly a year lol
[23:44] <nik90> ahayzen: yeah I am slightly regretting not staying with localstorage since afaik there isnt a upgrade db option in u1db which I kinda need for the clock app
[23:45] <ahayzen> uh oh... a manual version field?
[23:46] <nik90> yeah I suppose I could do that and then go through every item and add a column
[23:48] <ahayzen> :'(
[23:48] <ahayzen> nik90, you should see our playlist upgrade code ;)
[23:49] <nik90> ahayzen: I did see your localstorage db upgrade code and tbh that looks cleanly done based on the db version of the user. In fact I used that to help me upgrade the db in podbird
[23:50] <ahayzen> hehe :)
[23:50] <ahayzen> nik90, btw when lifting code for podbird you are lifting from lp:music-app/refactor not remix right?
[23:51] <nik90> ahayzen: well I took it from trunk whichever that is
[23:51] <ahayzen> ah the 'old' code ;)
[23:51] <nik90> woops
[23:51] <ahayzen> no worries the refactor is mainly restructuring at the moment
[23:51] <nik90> ahayzen: so far I took only upgrade db and the card view stuff from music app
[23:52] <ahayzen> nik90, you may notice the folder layout is much nicer ;) http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~music-app-dev/music-app/refactor/files
[23:52] <ahayzen> nik90, ah cool that hasn't changed or stuff has been backported
[23:52] <nik90> ahayzen: oh wow that looks clean!
[23:52] <nik90> ahayzen: btw why do you still have a qmlproject file and a cmakelist file?
[23:52] <nik90> just a cmakelist file should suffice
[23:53] <ahayzen> because reasons
[23:53] <ahayzen> idk actually
[23:53] <ahayzen> maybe victor uses it :) haha
[23:53] <nik90> :)
[23:54] <nik90> but yeah this layout is soooooo much organized and easier to understand
[23:54] <ahayzen> it is and files are slowly being abstracted
[23:55] <ahayzen> so you don't have a few single files that 1000L+ lol
[23:55] <ahayzen> nik90, Victor says "ha, because cmake was a pain in the ass and wasn't very well supported in qtcreator so the qmlproj file never got deleted"
[23:55] <nik90> I wanted to tell you guys about that after looking at the music-app.qml..but glad you got time to get to that by yourself
[23:56] <nik90> oh lol
[23:56] <ahayzen> nik90, yeah we are slowly working to improve things...without breaking things :)