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larsubonjour!05:36
pittiBonjour tout le monde !05:47
larsuhola pitti!05:50
didrocksgood morning06:02
larsuhi didrocks!06:06
didrockshey larsu!06:08
pittibonjour didrocks!06:10
didrockssalut pitti !06:12
pittididrocks: oh, display-managers test manages to shut down eth0 (I see a DHCPRELEASE in journal until ssh stops working)06:30
* pitti files bug 144938006:32
ubot5bug 1449380 in systemd (Ubuntu) "display-managers autopkgtest shuts down eth0" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144938006:32
didrockspitti: hum, can be "systemctl default"06:32
pittiyeah, I need to look at that more closely06:32
didrocksI didn't call isolate on purpose for this06:33
didrocksdaemon-reload should be harmless06:33
seb128good morning desktopers, didrocks, pitti06:39
pittibonjour seb128 !06:39
didrockshey seb128!06:39
seb128wie gehts?06:39
pittisuper, danke!06:42
pittiund Dir?06:42
seb128great, thanks ;-)06:51
willcooke*yawn*07:20
willcookemorning07:20
didrocksmorning willcooke07:25
willcookehey didrocks07:25
seb128hello willcooke07:26
willcookemorning seb12807:26
willcookeHrm, looks like my issues with Chromium aren't isolated07:30
willcookeerrors.u.c makes it clear :(07:30
larsumorning willcooke!07:32
willcookehey larsu07:38
willcookeWhat do you think about having a weekly meeting this week?07:49
willcookeI mean, mostly it'll be "went to a spint"07:50
larsuwhat a coincidence. I went to a sprint, too!07:50
willcooke:D07:51
seb128willcooke, we would use it to summarize week/blueprints&co07:53
seb128but we can also skip if you prefer07:53
willcookeoh, so actually looks like I have a UOS meeting at 163008:01
willcookelet me see what I can move08:01
Laneyhello!08:02
didrocksmorning Laney08:03
willcookeyo08:04
larsuLaney: morning! What exactly did you want me to test from your ppa? Did you disable o-s for gtk2?08:16
Laneyno08:18
Laneynot on purpose anyway08:18
larsuah, sounded like it08:18
Laneygo into gedit08:18
Laneyand make it scroll08:18
LaneyI get some weird grey area08:19
larsuthe overshoot thing?08:19
Laneycould be08:20
larsuhm I'm not seeing it in ambiance08:20
Laneyin Adwaita I get a dashed line there08:21
Laneyso it's probably saying that there is more content up here08:21
larsuright08:22
larsuis this with gtk 3.16?08:22
Laneyya, from the ppa08:22
seb128hey Laney, wie gehts?08:22
Laneyhey seb12808:22
Laneydoing good thanks!08:22
Laneywe started to organise a protest ride last night ;-)08:23
Laneyhow are you? good rest of w.e.?08:23
Laney(we are bikeshedding the name of the ride atm)08:23
pittihey Laney!08:23
seb128Laney, I'm good thanks, yeah, we had a good w.e in London, and it didn't rain after all :-)08:24
Laney\o/08:24
Laneyhiya pitti08:26
pittiseb128: how did you like the Phantom?08:28
pittierr -- comment vous avez aimé l'opéra ? :-)08:29
seb128pitti, it was very nice, the scenery was excellent08:29
pitti"avez-vous", argh08:29
seb128:-)08:29
seb128c'était très bien !08:29
* pitti aime la musique08:30
pittididrocks: systemctl default is the same as systemctl isolate default.target, no? at least that seems to shut down everything which isn't in graphical.target, like apparently the ifup@s; I'll have a closer look at it, don't worry (just keeping you posted)09:17
didrockspitti: yeah, it's a shortcut to systemctl <something> default.target. Can be isolate…09:18
didrocksand so, this would make sense09:18
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Laneylarsu: do you remember the bug # for inverted horizontal scrolling?09:34
Laneythe lp on09:34
Laneye09:34
Laneyoh, i found it, the power of asking someone else09:35
larsu:)09:35
pittididrocks: ah, interesting; setting IgnoreOnIsolate=yes for ifup@.service works; I wonder if that's actually desirable (not shutting down interfaces on isolate), or whether we should just do this for these tests09:35
pittiit might break "isolate rescue.target" or whatever09:36
didrockspitti: how would it break it? do you expect the ifup@.service being able to do some loop-hell and then, blocking our rescue?09:37
didrockspitti: or we might only set that during autopkgtests…09:37
pittididrocks: I mean, don't we want it to actually stop on isolating rescue or some other early/late/minimal target?09:37
didrockspitti: can we add conflicts="generic@.service"? I don't know if that works09:39
pittididrocks: add where? what's "generic"?09:39
didrockslike in rescue.target Conflicts=ifup@.service09:40
didrocksand that would conflict to all ifup instances09:40
didrocks(I'm unsure this is supported)09:40
pittididrocks: maybe rather PartOf=network.target, and whenever that shuts down, ifup@ also shuts down?09:42
pittiah, due to our dbus shutdown hack, isolating rescue doesn't work anyway ATM09:42
didrocksurgh09:45
pittididrocks: so, PartOf=networking.target and IgnoreOnIsolate=yes actually behave quite well09:47
didrocksyeah, sounds logical, it will still be activated in rescue though09:50
didrocksor we should conflicts09:50
pittididrocks: rescue is fine09:51
pittididrocks: I guess I meant emergency.target, or whichever target does *not* want (or shuts down) network-online.target and similar09:52
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pittiLaney: any luck with sbuild and the PPA?13:14
Laneypitti: oh yes, let's try13:50
seb128does anyone has a nautilus 3.16 version to test something?13:51
pittiseb128: I can build it from the upstream tarball, if that helps:13:56
pitti?13:56
seb128pitti, I can do that too, but I guess it needs a new GTK, etc13:56
pittiah, right13:56
seb128don't bother, it's not important, it was to confirm if https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1448474 is still an issue13:56
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1448474 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "ellipsed file names are not expanded on mouseover" [Undecided,New]13:56
pitticertainly an issue in vivid, but only in Ctrl+1 (list mode)13:57
pittiin grid mode the names are just wrapped13:57
ricotzseb128, hi, this is still an issue13:58
seb128ricotz, hey, thanks13:59
seb128pitti, right, I'm on vivid, I confirmed it's an issue there, and I confirmed it's not in nautilus 3.10 (I had debs unpacked to test), just wanted confirmation of current upstream before sending to b.g.o13:59
seb128thanks13:59
Laneypitti: still a bug - let me try to make a cloud instance which gets it14:02
seb128Laney, larsu, what do you think about bug #1448969? (basically suggesting to backport https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commit/?id=83e104b093f49ea452c25c370ce85cd247be4614 to trusty)14:04
ubot5bug 1448969 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "GTK3 can't resize treeviewcolumn" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144896914:04
larsuseb128: I already looked into it but haven't confirmed the fix yet (will do in a bit)14:05
seb128larsu, k, thanks14:06
larsuseb128: it's fixed as of 3.14, but broken on the lts14:06
seb128right14:06
seb128larsu, also bug #1448407 ... could you have a look? unsure if that's a theme issue14:06
ubot5bug 1448407 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "icons size issues in Nautilus" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144840714:06
seb128larsu, basically if you dnd to a folder with a > 100% zoom level, the destination folder icon switch to an unzoomed one14:07
larsuinteresting14:07
larsuI'll have a look14:07
seb128thanks14:08
pittiLaney: meh, would have been too easy :)14:11
qenghowillcooke: when you get the watchdog timeout crash, does chromium, or anything else, appear to be hung or unresponsive? I am starting to think the hung predicate is wrong altogether.14:18
willcookeqengho, hiya14:19
willcookeqengho, I'm not 100% certain, I can reboot and see what happens - but not quite yet - I'll give it a go later14:20
ochosilarsu: hey! since 15.10 is opening up, wanna do something wrt indicators and symbolic icons?14:42
seb128Sweet5hark, hey, did you see https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/8311cfa576acddfbbb5f1e7a01d4055d6b0e123a ?14:44
Sweet5harkseb128: yes, saw it, havent digged too deep into it, there is no good reproduction descriptions yet, it seems ...14:45
seb128Sweet5hark, k, can you triage the bug? it's number 10 on the daily e.u.c report for vivid14:46
Sweet5harkseb128: the only one there says "crashed on closing the document" and the stack trace suggests this being about StarBasic macros in a document -- so might be somewhat tricky. That said: it is a regression vs. 4.3 (which should help somewhat), but without a reproduction document, its still fly by instrument flight (aka guesswork unless I manage to reproduce myself).14:50
larsuochosi: I'll try to get to it, but it's not highest priority14:51
seb128Sweet5hark, right14:52
ochosilarsu: sure, i was also wondering whether you wanted/needed help with that, since we discussed it during 15.04 at some point. i guess a list of indicators that would need patches would also be helpful14:52
larsuochosi: right. there's also an open question about whether we should merge icon themes at some point. everything's all over the place now14:53
ochosii understand, actually moving to symbolic icons would enable that process14:54
ochosior at least make it easier14:54
ochosibut yeah, all in all the two things could be done independently14:54
ochosiwith the icon theme, i guess moving to the icons from mobile would be the ideal way to go14:55
qenghoSince I didn't come to the sprint, my progress report isn't "went to a sprint".14:55
qengho* DONE: Cr 42.0.2311.90 is tested, and almost ready.14:55
qengho* IN-PROGRESS: It's delayed a few days because I'm adding some start-up tests and recommendations to update the Flash player packages. Doing that right is hard. Almost happy with it.14:55
qengho* IN-PROGRESS: Mir support again.14:55
qengho* TO-DO: GPU watchdog hangs. Extended timeout didn't help much last time.14:55
qenghoSo, there you go. Meeting of one.14:55
larsuochosi: it's not clear yet if we want to move to the mobile icons14:59
ochosik14:59
larsuI think I'll wait for that decision before starting to work on it14:59
seb128qengho, thanks for the update :-)15:02
willcookethx qengho15:05
Laneypitti: okay, I got into a similar but not identical state on this vm15:07
Laneyhere it rips the mount out before sbuild can even get going15:07
Laneyshould be the same bug15:08
Laneyssh ubuntu@10.55.32.96 & poke around with the 'vivid' container which has a 'vivid' schroot inside15:09
pittiLaney: cheers!15:12
* qengho boggles at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/144960715:12
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1449607 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "Random Chromium / Chrome slowdowns with hardware acceleration" [Undecided,New]15:12
qengho"acceleration"15:12
* desrt can feel it15:29
desrtt -3015:29
desrt2015:29
seb128desrt, °C?15:29
seb128winter is back?15:29
desrt1015:29
willcookedesrt, check your email :)15:29
desrtoh15:29
desrt:(15:29
willcookeIt seems to have been sent twice as well15:30
willcookeso, I don't know, sucks to be you15:30
desrtgot it :)15:30
Laneymaybe he'll do another fake meeting15:30
willcookerather, sucks to be your mail client because you dont love it15:30
desrtsure glad i didn't get to 015:30
willcookelolz15:30
desrtthat would have looked ridiculous!15:30
willcooke:D15:30
seb128:-)15:30
seb128Laney, larsu, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1448388 is by design right?17:40
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1448388 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Nautilus dialogs have no buttons" [Undecided,New]17:40
larsuseb128: because header bars I guess?!18:35
willcookeg'night all19:07
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