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dpmo/15:59
balloonshello hello15:59
akiva-thinkpadhey16:01
balloonshowdy16:01
dpmhi akiva-thinkpad16:01
dpmstarting in a minute16:01
* ian-weisser yawns16:04
akiva-thinkpadzzzzzzzzzzz16:04
balloonswe're live!16:04
ahayzenyey \o/16:05
SHAHJEELINK REQUIRED FOR WUBI FOR 15.0416:05
akiva-thinkpadQUESTION: Any issues with SystemD so far?16:05
akiva-thinkpadQUESTION: Is systemD on the phone yet?16:05
akiva-thinkpadQUESTION: Has W been decided yet for 15.10? Do you have any ideas what it should be?16:07
dragon77QUESTION:When you switch to the snappy based ubuntu image,will there be some sort of legacy support for .deb and .click packages inside of that image?Do youhave any contingency plans for the applications that will not switch to snappy?16:07
sassy_can i know when will ubuntu phone be launched in india and how can i access ?16:08
balloonskeep'em coming, we'll keep answering :-) thanks guys!16:08
akiva-thinkpadQUESTION sassy_ can i know when will ubuntu phone be launched in india and how can i access ?16:08
veribakaQUESTION: How do we handle the snappy packages in a command line? What is the aptitude/apt equivalent?16:10
akiva-thinkpadQUESTION: Can Balloons grow a curly mustache for the UOS?16:10
davmor2SHAHJEE: wubi is depreciated so there is no installer for inside windows anymore16:10
akiva-thinkpadWobbly windows!16:10
akiva-thinkpadWascally Wabit!16:11
akiva-thinkpadWorthless Wubi16:11
PaulW2UWacky Wombat16:11
akiva-thinkpadWarty Walmart16:11
SHAHJEEOK. So then how to dual boot PC ?16:12
jnxdWhat Windows?16:12
balloonshttps://github.com/mikix/deb2snap16:12
akiva-thinkpadQUESTION: Microsoft said it could see itself open sourcing windows in the future. Did hell freeze over?16:12
akiva-thinkpadQUESTION: Do either of you have the BQ phone? Any thoughts on it?16:13
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ian-weisserQUESTION: When will Desktop Ubuntu finish converting to Python3?16:14
akiva-thinkpadian-weisser, lol good question16:14
ahayzenQUESTION: Which session in UOS are you most looking forward to next week? http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/all/16:15
dpmhttp://uds.ubuntu.com/16:15
dpmhttp://davidplanella.org/announcing-the-next-ubuntu-online-summit/16:16
Whinocewoshi all16:16
dpmthanks ahayzen :)16:16
akiva-thinkpadWhinocewos, hi!16:16
akiva-thinkpadWascally whinocewos!16:16
WhinocewosWibbly16:16
ahayzendpm, :)16:16
sassy_this is my first session, how will i know if my question is answered?16:16
akiva-thinkpadQUESTION: Will Mark Shuttleworth be at the Ubuntu Online Summit for another Q&A?16:16
akiva-thinkpadsassy_, it was just answered :)16:17
akiva-thinkpadNorth America!16:17
sassy_i also asked when will the ubuntu phone be launched in india and how can i access ?16:18
WhinocewosQuestion: How will Ubuntu 15.10 be named?16:18
akiva-thinkpadsassy_, they answered, and its.... mmmmmmm you need to followup with meizu16:18
akiva-thinkpadWhinocewos, already been asked16:18
sassy_:)16:18
balloonsveribaka, checkout out https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/tutorials/using-snappy/ and https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/16:18
akiva-thinkpadlol16:18
dragon77QUESTION:When will we be able to package snappy packages from the SDK?16:19
Whinocewosakiva-thinkpad: oh, i missed that :>>16:19
akiva-thinkpadWhinocewos, the answer was "Wobbly Windows"16:19
Whinocewos:))))16:19
akiva-thinkpadthat is the name of the next release16:19
akiva-thinkpadcurly!16:20
akiva-thinkpadDrats16:20
akiva-thinkpad\o/16:20
WhinocewosQuestion: when and how can we upgrade to Ubuntu 15.10? (i want to use Ubuntu 15.10 from the first day)16:21
Nothing_Muchwho said windows is going to be open sourced?16:21
Nothing_Muchhope that doesn't happen, honestly16:22
akiva-thinkpadNothing_Much, not going, but it is a possibility16:22
Nothing_Muchit better not16:22
akiva-thinkpadNothing_Much, lol why?16:22
Nothing_Muchit's probably kill Linux if that happened16:22
Nothing_Muchit'd*16:22
ian-weisserQUESTION: What is your single favorite feature of Snappy?16:22
akiva-thinkpadNothing_Much, mmmmm their software kind of sucks16:22
toddclinux action show has a good interveiw with MS about MS open source direction16:22
akiva-thinkpadever used powershell?16:22
Nothing_Muchakiva-thinkpad: anything that Microsoft has ever made sucks16:23
akiva-thinkpadNothing_Much, what about comic sans?16:23
Nothing_Muchthat's a font, right?16:23
akiva-thinkpadNothing_Much, yeah, the best one16:23
ian-weisserQUESTION: What feature of Snappy do you worry people won't understand?16:23
sassy_can i install ubuntu on my htc one v > single core 512mb mobile?16:24
Nothing_Muchakiva-thinkpad: any program that Microsoft has made is horrible16:24
Nothing_Muchincluding their OS16:24
akiva-thinkpadQUESTION: Where did you get the 25 million users of ubuntu figure from?16:24
dragon77Windows is not going to be open source.However ever since their new boss took charge it is a talking topic.Windows is not even free of charge yet.And if windows goes open source,it does not mean Linux will die,but Linux and Windows would exchange a lot of features until someone made a fusion of windows and Linux.16:25
WhinocewosQUESTION: can we install multiple versions of the same app on snappy and run them in the same time?16:25
Nothing_MuchQUESTION: Is there a possible .deb to .Click package program that exists?16:25
sassy_can i install ubuntu on my htc one v > single core 512mb mobile?16:25
dragon77QUESTION:Will there still be a version of Ubuntu with unity8 that has .deb and .click?16:26
akiva-thinkpadlol!16:26
dpmian-weisser, http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22469/python-plans-for-lts/ :)16:26
ian-weisserQUESTION: Other than Snappy and Unity8, what other exciting changes are in store for aroud 16.04?16:27
WhinocewosQUESTION: are there any plan for a launchpad update? it's getting long in the foot16:27
ian-weisserdpm: Thanks. That wasn't there yesterday.16:27
sassy_well i was waiting for an answer on >can i install ubuntu on my htc one v > single core 512mb mobile?16:27
balloonsian-weisser, here's the session: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22469/python-plans-for-lts/16:28
k1l_QUESTION: is there a date for snappy packages to hit desktop-next iso?16:28
akiva-thinkpadWoot!16:29
ian-weisserballoons: Thanks. That wasn't there yesterday.16:31
akiva-thinkpadlol16:31
balloonshttp://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22408/the-ubuntu-sdk-roadmap/16:32
balloonshttp://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22409/sdk-team-qa/16:32
dpmhttp://uds.ubuntu.com/16:32
akiva-thinkpadQUESTION: Who came up with the Origami Aesthetic? Its brilliant~16:33
balloonshttp://uds.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/join-a-session/ for those who might be new during UOS16:33
dpmhttp://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/all/16:34
balloonsor by day: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/2015-05-05/display16:34
dpmhttp://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/2015-05-05/display16:34
akiva-thinkpadQUESTION: Is the HUD implimented in Unity8 yet? Are either of you running it full time yet?16:35
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* ahayzen remembers balloons confusing apt on ahayzen's laptop at Malta ;)16:37
akiva-thinkpadQUESTION: Would you consider btrfs stable enough yet? Do either of you run it?16:37
LukeWarmwaterQUESTION. Do you think using something as friendly as QML as the main language in Unity 8 will help increase the number of people who can help shape the Unity 8 shell itself compared to the Unity 7?16:37
akiva-thinkpadLukeWarmwater, good question, and yet16:38
akiva-thinkpadyes16:38
jonohey folks16:38
akiva-thinkpadjono, !!!!!16:39
jonohey akiva-thinkpad :-)16:39
ahayzeno/16:39
jonohey ahayzen :-)16:39
* jono listens to the dulcet tones of balloons 16:39
akiva-thinkpadWhats new with xprize?16:39
balloonshere's the snappy security model: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Specifications/SnappyConfinement16:40
jonoakiva-thinkpad, trying to figure out the right path forward :-)16:40
LukeWarmwaterThe next bunch of ubuntu releases should be named after the most frequently asked question about it. 15.10 should be called Whatitcalled.16:40
akiva-thinkpadjono, very cool!16:40
jonoakiva-thinkpad, it has been a ride :-)16:41
jonoakiva-thinkpad, how are you?16:41
akiva-thinkpadLukeWarmwater, I like "Worthless Wubi"16:41
akiva-thinkpadgiven how many askubuntu questions revolve around failed installations with it16:41
akiva-thinkpadjono, delicious.16:41
akiva-thinkpadthanks!16:41
ian-weisserQUESTION: If you had to give advice to your Ubuntu-using Grandmother about all the changes with Snappy and Unity8 coming, what would you say?16:41
akiva-thinkpadjono, I liked your demo of the bq at the insider events.16:42
jonothanks akiva-thinkpad :-)16:42
akiva-thinkpadmicrosoft said ubuntu had millions with its cloud services16:42
jonoQUESTION: I saw ScottK's blog post about UOS and in the comments there was a discussion about whether UOS has value bringing people together, or whether independent hangouts outside of UOS are better - what do you guys think?16:43
alex02012"weighty wallaby" should be the name for 16.0416:43
akiva-thinkpadalex02012, 15.10*16:44
akiva-thinkpadalex02012, 1604 is x16:44
ian-weisserjono: Oooh, that's a very good one.16:44
jono:-)16:44
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balloonsNothing_Much, https://github.com/mikix/deb2snap16:45
alex02012aktiva-thinkpad, you´re right :-)16:45
akiva-thinkpad:]16:45
xuacuQUESTION: Is Ubuntu i18n system left behind the general improvements in Ubuntu developement?16:48
akiva-thinkpadQUESTION: Which former community do you miss most, and wish would return someday?16:50
balloonso/ jono, didn't see you slip in here :-)16:53
akiva-thinkpadlol16:53
jonoballoons, :-)16:53
jono:-)16:56
chris___I have a question  What is the advantage of Ubuntu Phone over Android ?16:58
akiva-thinkpadQUESTION: Have either of you been progamming in golang yet? Thoughts?16:58
akiva-thinkpadQUESTION chris___ What is the advantage of Ubuntu Phone over Android ?16:59
akiva-thinkpadgood question17:00
GigahurtzHi everybody17:00
Gigahurtznew aquaris e4.5 owner here17:01
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akiva-thinkpadhi Gigahurtz !17:01
balloonshi Gigahurtz !17:01
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jonothanks for the answer, dpm, balloons17:01
akiva-thinkpadQUESTION What irc client do you use?17:01
jonoalso, keep up the excellent work!17:01
everybodyhello Gigahurtz17:01
jonothe community is fortunate to have you leading the charge :-)17:02
balloonsjono, do I sense a blog post from you?17:02
balloonsjono, thanks for asking, good quesitons17:02
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akiva-thinkpadformer community member * dpm17:02
jonoballoons, LOL, not this time around :-)17:02
jonoballoons, I have enough bloody writing on my hands these days :-)17:02
GigahurtzI undestand the os on the phone is very new17:02
balloonsjono, yes, your new column has been interesting reading17:02
jonothanks balloons17:02
jonoit has been fun to do17:02
jonojust planning my next one17:02
balloonsit suits you well17:03
balloonsgood fit :-)17:03
jonothanks!17:03
Gigahurtzhow do users report bugs and suggestions?17:03
jonostarting to do a Forbes one, this is more uncertain :-)17:03
akiva-thinkpadGigahurtz, good question17:03
dpmthanks jono!17:03
akiva-thinkpadGigahurtz, it depends. For specific apps, you go to the launchpad page for that project17:04
Gigahurtzthe phone is lacking some very basic features that we need working to be taken seriously by even techie consumers17:04
Gigahurtzlike me. Lol17:04
akiva-thinkpadGigahurtz, are you interested in app development?17:05
Gigahurtzthx akiva17:05
balloonsGigahurtz, be sure to attend UOS next week and talk and share about these things17:05
GigahurtzI plan to dabble in paps. I'm a noob17:05
balloonsthere's an entire app development track, and you can be involved!17:05
* dpm high-fives balloons17:06
akiva-thinkpadGigahurtz, if you are interested in learning qml and helping the ubuntu core apps, come over to #ubuntu-app-devel17:06
dpmthanks all!17:06
Gigahurtzwish I could attend but duty calls at work. Grrrr17:06
ahayzenthanks balloons dpm :)17:06
akiva-thinkpadbye!!!!!17:06
* balloons high-fives dpm back17:06
Gigahurtzthx akiiva17:06
balloonsthis was most enjoyable. really nice questions everyone!17:06
akiva-thinkpadGigahurtz, we also have the ubuntu online summit coming up. Come participate with a team and offer your feedback17:07
akiva-thinkpadhelp plan new features17:07
ian-weisserGood session. You guys are at your most persuasive when talking about stuff you really care about.17:07
akiva-thinkpad^17:07
Gigahurtzsounds good I will keep my eye out for the online summit17:08
GigahurtzI think a clear road plan of what needs fixing and implementing in the coming months.17:09
Gigahurtzis needed17:09
akiva-thinkpadGigahurtz, :) i'm busy until then, but if you want an introduction to programming with ubuntu, let me know.17:11
akiva-thinkpadWe also run a subreddit17:11
akiva-thinkpad /r/ubuntuappdev17:11
GigahurtzThank you17:12
ian-weisserGigahurtz: A clear road plan is a tall order. See the Ubuntu Online Summit for that.17:12
Gigahurtzwill check it out. Thx17:12
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fiftyhello, how do i upgrade 14.04 ubuntu to 15? it wont update21:17
k1lfifty: try #ubuntu for support21:18
fiftyi figured someone here would have the answer which would save me time ha. thanks for your help anyway21:19
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