[00:00] <MisterMom> ok do i have to do anything extra or will installing them take care of things ?
[00:01] <MisterMom> i dont want to mess with a perfectly good system lol
[00:01] <Unit193> If you install xscreensaver, I'd remove light-locker.  You can check preferences for xscreensaver for locking and screensaver options.
[00:01] <MisterMom> ok thanks
[00:02] <MisterMom> sounds easy enough
[00:32] <pjotter> Hello everybody. Does anybody know if there is a sollution yet for the problems with lightlocker in 14.04?
[00:33] <pjotter> I just did a clean install and noticed that the screen still blanks after 10 minutes or so, no matter how light locker is set. I used to completely remove lightlocker and install xscreensvaer instead. But maybe there is better fix for this
[04:38] <jetage> Since installing Xubuntu 15.04, shell scripts don't execute on a mouse click, instead opening in an editor.   Any idea what adjustment needs made?
[05:23] <pragomer> how can I set up the keyboard layout of light-locker in xubuntu 14.04 ? it uses english although my system language is german
[06:09] <varaindemian> Is it safe to deactivate guest account on xubuntu 15.04?
[06:10] <cfhowlett> varaindemian, yes
[06:10] <varaindemian> cfhowlett: and how do I do that?
[06:11] <varaindemian> I tried gksu thunar /usr/share/gvfs/mounts/network.mount^C
[06:11] <cfhowlett> varaindemian, not like that ...
[06:11] <varaindemian> and modified AutoMount to false
[06:11] <varaindemian> cfhowlett: and it's not working
[06:11] <varaindemian> ye
[06:11] <varaindemian> is it in settings?
[06:12] <cfhowlett> varaindemian, I'm behind the great firewall, so my google is broken.  search: xubuntu guest account disable
[06:12] <varaindemian> the great firewall?
[06:13] <cfhowlett> varaindemian, "china"
[06:13] <varaindemian> cfhowlett: I see
[06:14] <Unit193> varaindemian: Just set [SeatDefaults]\nallow-guest=false in the lightdm config.
[06:14] <Unit193> I personally have /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-noguest.conf installed with a custom package, but /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf may be easier.
[06:15] <varaindemian> what is that AutoMount?
[06:15] <varaindemian> shouldn't that be set on false?
[06:16] <Unit193> Are you also looking to edit settings in thunar-volman-settings ?
[06:19] <varaindemian> in 50-guest-wrapper.conf I have this: [SeatDefaults]
[06:19] <varaindemian> guest-wrapper=/usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-guest-session
[06:20] <Unit193> Good for you?
[06:22] <varaindemian> I don t see any "allow-guest"
[06:22] <Unit193> You won't.
[06:22] <varaindemian> Do I need to add that line?
[06:23] <Unit193> echo allow-guest=false | sudo tee -a /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[06:23] <varaindemian> like "allow-guest = false"
[06:24] <elfy> varaindemian: the above is a command to run in terminal which will do what you need
[06:26] <varaindemian> thank you guys for your patience, but I want to know where is that file I should edit
[06:26] <elfy> the file to edit IS in that command
[06:26] <Unit193> And mentioned before.
[06:27] <elfy> indeed
[06:27] <varaindemian> pasted /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf in file manger and nothing happened
[06:27] <elfy> why would it?
[06:27] <elfy> you need to edit it with a text editor
[06:30] <varaindemian> tried gksu thunar /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[06:30] <varaindemian> and I got this
[06:31] <varaindemian> failed to open...
[06:31] <elfy> right
[06:31] <elfy> try with a text editor - like mousepad
[06:32] <varaindemian> elfy: worked and the file is empty :D
[06:32] <elfy> do you actually read what people tell you?
[06:32] <elfy> or just some of it?
[06:34] <varaindemian> elfy: I know echo... willdo the job but I'm trying to edit it manually
[06:34] <elfy> ok - so edit it - the information has been given to you
[06:35] <varaindemian> thank you
[06:36] <Unit193> Add [SeatDefaults] at the top.
[06:38] <varaindemian> Unit193: ok
[07:13] <thyphus_> hi. i tried xubuntu 15.04 with two displays. my problem is that the "primary display" option does not affect anything. i want to have the panel on the right display, but it's still on the left display (not the primary). in the panels options for the display "automaticly" is selected (i don't want to choose the right display as it's not working if i undock my notebook)
[07:47] <Luyin> thyphus_: screenshot of what you have?
[07:53] <ochosi> thyphus_: yeah, the xfce panel doesn't support that option (yet), however, other panels (like plank) do. the xfce panel always appears on the top left screen by default
[07:55] <pragomer> where is xubuntu's autmount option saved (autmount of drives) ?
[07:57] <thyphus_> ochosi: ouh, okay. is there a bugreport already open?
[07:58] <ochosi> pragomer: thunar > edit > preferences > advanced > volume management
[07:58] <ochosi> thyphus_: i think there already are bugreports for the various components that could support the primary display option
[07:59] <pragomer> do you know where this option is save in config-file?
[07:59] <thyphus_> ochosi: okay. thank you
[07:59] <ochosi> thyphus_: np
[08:00] <ochosi> pragomer: open xfce4-settings-editor, channel is thunar-volman
[08:00] <pragomer> oh I see.. its the file volmanrc I think
[08:00] <ochosi> no, it should be in xfconf
[08:00] <ochosi> unless you use a very old version of it
[08:06] <pragomer> ochosi you mean me ?
[08:06] <ochosi> well yes, there aren't so many other people here that i'm talking to right now :)
[08:08] <pragomer> mm.. yes.. you are right.. did not work (I want to use it inside a remastering script..)
[08:08] <pragomer> so you mean:   /home/xubuntu/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/thunar-volman.xml ?
[08:08] <ochosi> yup
[08:09] <pragomer> ok, let me try..
[08:16] <HsAsMKMy> when i use gksu to open applications, the mouse cursor always show busy for a long time. it bothers me.
[08:20] <HsAsMKMy> is there a way to avoid this ?
[08:52] <pragomer> @ochosi... thunar-volman.xml is completly ignored when copying it to /etc/skel
[08:52] <pragomer> other things I copy to "skel" they work..
[09:25] <pragomer> thunar-volman.xml is always resettet
[09:30] <brainwash_> pragomer: do you manually edit it?
[09:35] <pragomer> I manually edit it on my host system... setting "true" to "false" (I dont want to automount media/drives/...)  And I copy it with my remastering-script to /etc/skel/.config/.....   or in a 2nd try I copy it to /etc/xdg/..... but when I look a live-users's "thunar-volman.xml" there is "TRUE"
[09:35] <pragomer> it is ignored...
[09:38] <brainwash_> you mean /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu ?
[09:41] <brainwash_> also, are other files copied and used correctly?
[09:44] <pragomer> No, I just copy this one file: http://pastebin.com/W5M9PXxY
[09:46] <brainwash_> do you start the normal Xfce session?
[09:46] <brainwash_> files for the Xubuntu session are located in /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu
[09:50] <pragomer> Yes, its the normale xfce/xubuntu session.. I will try to copy it to /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu
[09:56] <pragomer> It did not work: http://pastebin.com/Eq5DbKNj
[09:57] <pragomer> Although I changed the target to /etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntu/.....
[09:57] <pragomer> it is still ignored..
[10:06] <brainwash_> pragomer: I have no idea then. sadly, I'm not familiar with the process of remastering the iso
[10:55] <pragomer> no problem. thank you
[11:34] <xubuntu04w> does anyone else have the problem that the "docky"-panel at the bottom stops rendering but still seems to be active and clickable?
[11:36] <xubuntu04w> Just when I start Xubuntu the panel is shown and the graphical rendering is working. Then I click a program, use a internet browser and pang it stops rendering
[11:48] <knob> Hello hello!
[12:04] <xubuntu782> Hello all, Its seems I have some problems with the pakcage .... avahi-daemon[1180]:
[12:04] <xubuntu782> sb could help me?
[12:05] <xubuntu782>  xubuntu avahi-daemon[1180]: Invalid response packet from host fe80::6e3b:e5ff:fe05:292f
[12:05] <xubuntu782>  Invalid response packet from host 147.156.47.170.
[13:40] <holstein> xubuntu782: when doing what?
[14:30] <ed_> help please! toughbook running 14.04  and stable for ages. today networking went down and suspected nm-applet. removed it from bar, killed it off, ran from command line but just does nothing. have limited internet access via bluetooth but need wifi and wwan back asap. any thougts please?
[14:41] <ochosi> ed_: i presume you have tried rebooting already?
[14:42] <ochosi> or at least restarting the session
[14:47] <ed_> hi, i missed your message. yes tried the standard reboot, batt out, etc. killed nm-applet, ran from command line. shows in task man, but not having any effect
[14:48] <ed_> ifconfig lists network interfaces ok
[14:50] <koegs> so, lspci show the wifi-card?
[14:51] <ed_> yes all ok
[14:51] <koegs> whats the the output of "iwconfig" and "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan"?
[14:53] <ed_> interface doesnt support scanning: network is down
[14:54] <ed_> iwconfig gives expected if list
[14:55] <koegs> the wifi card is called wlan0?
[14:55] <ed_> yes
[14:55] <koegs> hm, what does "rfkill list" say?
[14:55] <bynarie> you guys know how touchy the windows are when resizing? like you have to have your cursor in the exact spot? anyway to change those settings?
[14:56] <ed_> softbocked yes hardblocked no
[14:57] <koegs> do you have a FN-Key to disable WiFi?
[14:58] <ed_> no, but i disabled it with nm-applet while diagnosing why ping was lost on wifi, now i have no nm-applet!
[14:58] <koegs> you can start it in a terminal with "nm-applet &"
[14:59] <ed_> yes that starts it in task manager but not added to task bar
[15:01] <ed_> tried to reinstall it with apt-get but not found
[15:01] <xubuntu06w> hello
[15:02] <xubuntu06w> how can i update xubuntu when i clicked away the update notice from my software updater
[15:02] <holstein> xubuntu782: in a terminal, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:04] <xubuntu06w> hmm, dist-upgrade does not find anything which is needed to be upgraded
[15:04] <ed_> got disconnected
[15:05] <TimeVirus> I used a program called MultibootUSB to put Linux Mint Xfce 64 on a 32 GB Flash drive - that live USB does not boot, so I want to remove all the files on that drive but I cannot - its telling me I do not have permission.  When I try to chown -hR the Directory its telling me there is no such directory. What am I doing wrong. I want this brand new flash drive back!
[15:05] <ed_> koegs: still there?
[15:06] <TimeVirus> I cannot reformat, cannot remove, cannot install a new ISO
[15:08] <freiform> bynarie, hold <alt> and right-click a windows for easy resizing.
[15:09] <KW4HK> TimeVirus: does gparted do anything with it?
[15:09] <ed_> koegs: just installed wicd, network lists coming up now and connected to my router, but still no nm-applet and still no ping
[15:12] <bynarie> freiform, doesnt seem to work for me =[
[15:13] <freiform> bynarie, holding alt down while right-clicking and moving a window does not resize it?
[15:13] <bynarie> oh sorry i didnt right click, yes it does work
[15:13] <bynarie> thank you freiform
[15:13] <bynarie> =]
[15:14] <freiform> bynarie, you're welcome
[15:14] <bynarie> cant believe i never knew this lol
[15:14] <freiform> jupp, took me some time, too ;)
[15:15] <bynarie> well thanks for the tip!
[15:15] <TimeVirus> KW4HK, nope gparted says it has a GPT table
[15:15] <TimeVirus> and this is seems corrupted
[15:15] <TimeVirus> I'm going to have to learn dd I gues
[15:20] <xubuntu32w> hey removed the wifi icon from panel because they were duplicate and now don t know how to reinstall it
[15:20] <xubuntu32w> any ideeas?
 nm-applet from the command line
[15:24] <ed_> i am having deeper issues with nm-applet at the moment. mine wont work at all
[15:26] <xubuntu32w> for me as well
[15:29] <xubuntu32w> it happened that i had double icons for wifi before, when updating xubuntu and then i found an article that was instructing not use of the terminal but it was from a folder similar with control panel *windos system* and i could see the icons and deselect. Am not talking about add a panel. Unfortunely i ve been looking alot on the internet but don t seem to find that article again, nor to remember the name of control panel xubuntu 
[15:48] <rinki> help! my nm-applet has gone down
[16:00] <xubuntu848> hello
[16:01] <ed_> hello
[16:01] <lderan> hello :)
[16:01] <rinki> hi
[16:01] <xubuntu848> I'm installing xubuntu
[16:02] <rinki> i have a problem. nm-applet wont run and i can only use internet via bluetooth now. i cant access wlan or wwan
[16:02] <lderan> good to hear
[16:02] <lderan> rinki: oh dear
[16:03] <rinki> can you help me?
[16:03] <KW4HK> csn u run nm as root?
[16:04] <rinki> nm a.out :no such file
[16:06] <rinki> it does not do any help
[16:07] <rinki> oh, sudo nm-applet work but taskbar icon is blank. i can click and see my wwan, but not wifi
[16:10] <knome> you shouldn't run nm-applet as root
[16:14] <xubuntu41w> ok, after digging around, i have all the icons in the guest session, Talking especially about wifi, but how do i readd it in my session?
[16:21] <rinki> hi
[16:22] <rinki> xxxxx
[16:22] <ed_> hi rinki
[16:23] <rinki> does anyone here know how to fix nm-applet?
[16:23] <ed_> not me i have the same problem. its very quiet in here!
[16:23] <xubuntu41w> exactly the topic of the day
[16:24] <xubuntu41w> i have the icon in my guest session but not in my normal session
[16:24] <xubuntu41w> people can hack banks but nobody seems able to readd the icon in the panel
[16:24] <rinki> i can only run it as sudo but then my wifi is missing
[16:25] <xubuntu41w> my wifi is working is just the icon missing...
[16:25] <ed_> same here, only sudo, and no wifi. icon crashs with my user account
[16:26] <xubuntu41w> yup and the battery icon the same, but as soon as i switch to guest i can see them in the panel
[16:28] <ed_> yes my battery icon is also gone. never noticed till you said it
[16:31] <xubuntu41w> looked in so many sites and so many articles
[16:31] <xubuntu41w> and no solution
[16:31] <xubuntu41w> for something that should be sensible
[16:33] <ed_> mine has been fine for over a year, then pow!
[16:34] <xubuntu41w> happened when updating to 12 and now again, for f sake shouldn t be this hard
[16:34] <futurestack> I feel like I've ..always had nm-applet in .xinitrc or somesuch
[16:35] <brainwash> did you remove indicator plugin from the panel configuration?
[16:35] <knome> xubuntu41w, please remember this is a family-friendly channel
[16:36] <xubuntu41w> yup removed it from my session because was duplicate, but the battery icon dissapeared on it s own. i have everything in guest session,
[16:36] <ed_> i have removed and replaced icon in taskbar before, thats easy. this is different
[16:37] <xubuntu41w> how do you do that?
[16:37] <ed_> bug 1302462?
[16:38] <ed_> hope bits a fix i can click on!
[16:39] <brainwash> fixed in 15.04. you may need to change stuff manually in previous releases
[16:46] <xubuntu41w> anybody a solution?
[16:47] <brainwash> for which problem exactly?
[16:47] <xubuntu140> Hello all, I have some problems because the instalation of xubuntu never ends....
[16:48] <xubuntu140> Apr 28 16:45:00 xubuntu avahi-daemon[1180]: Invalid response packet from host fe80::7646:a0ff:fe4f:ddf. Apr 28 16:45:22 xubuntu avahi-daemon[1180]: Invalid response packet from host 147.156.45.151.
[16:48] <brainwash> xubuntu140: how is this log message related to your problem?
[16:49] <xubuntu41w> deleted my wifi icon from my session and don t seem to find how to reinstall it
[16:49] <brainwash> how did you delete it?
[16:50] <xubuntu41w> after updating appeared two of them and battery icon dissapeared. clicked remove on one but both dissapeared
[16:51] <xubuntu41w> but internet still works and i have all icons on guest session
[16:52] <brainwash> sounds like you have removed the notification and/or indicator area
[16:52] <brainwash> readd add the to your panel
[16:52] <brainwash> -add
[16:52] <xubuntu41w> don t have the option anymore in the add new item to panel
[16:54] <brainwash> which elements does the item list contain?
[16:54] <xubuntu41w> asked if delete permanent and clicked yes, thinking deletes only one of them
[16:54] <brainwash> so, you should be able to readd them
[16:54] <xubuntu41w> launcher, action buttons, applications, clock
[16:54] <xubuntu41w> the option is not in there
[16:55] <xubuntu41w> have every option there, but not the battery icon nor the wifi icon to add
[16:56] <brainwash> no, you have to add the "notification area" and "indicator area"
[16:56] <xubuntu41w> i have notification area
[16:56] <xubuntu41w> but i can not add it
[16:57] <brainwash> what about indicator area?
[16:57] <xubuntu41w> only indicator plugin
[16:57] <brainwash> yes, that's the one
[16:59] <xubuntu41w> ok will switch session and see, so i go indicator plugging and the then the notification area will become active as well?
[17:02] <xubuntu41w> i ll try it. thank you very much hope will work
[17:02] <brainwash> hopefully it will work :)
[17:21] <matadores> italy?
[17:21] <matadores> hi
[17:22] <matadores> xubuntu italy?
[17:22] <krytarik> !it | matadores
[18:31] <aziz> what could be the reason that my loudspeaker icon disappeared from the system tray, since upgrading to 15.04?
[18:35] <r0n> Hi guys.
[18:35] <r0n> I just instaled xubuntu 15.04 on my laptop and now it's randomly shutting down.
[18:35] <r0n> Everything was fine with 14.04
[18:36] <r0n> Logs doesn't show anything as it's just shuts down like a power surge
[18:51] <s0d0m> my computer stopped again
[18:51] <s0d0m> don't know if anybody answered
[18:51] <s0d0m> i am now trying with upstart
[19:54] <pjotter> Does anybody know how to fix the issues with lightlocker? My Xubuntu 14.04 (clean install) blanks the screen no matter how lightlocker is set. It is as if the system is not reponding to any of the lightlocker setting at all.
[19:56] <mrkramps> pjotter, output of following command:$ xset q | grep -A 2 Screen
[19:56] <pjotter> Screen Saver:
[19:56] <pjotter>   prefer blanking:  yes    allow exposures:  yes
[19:56] <pjotter>   timeout:  600    cycle:  600
[19:57] <mrkramps> XServer blanks screen with internal screen saver every 600 seconds
[19:57] <pjotter> I also tried this "xset s noblank; xset s 0 0; xset s off " But still the screens blanks after 10 minutes
[19:57] <pjotter> mrkramps: Where can I set it to "never". I already tried everything in light-locker and the power settings
[19:58] <pjotter> I
[19:58] <pjotter> I 'm about to completely get rid of light-locker altogether. Just hoping there might be a sollution to this persisting problem
[19:59] <mrkramps> pjotter, did you try to disable light-locker?
[20:00] <pjotter> Yes, it just doesn't respond at all
[20:00] <mrkramps> pjotter, when screen is locked?
[20:00] <pjotter> It is almost as if the system totally ignores the light-locker settings.
[20:02] <pjotter> Currently I disabled lightlocker, put blank screen to 'never' and switch of display to 'never'. Still the screen keeps blanking after 10 minutes
[20:02] <mrkramps> and xset s off?
[20:02] <mrkramps> altogether?
[20:03] <pjotter> Same thing for powersettings. I put both screenblanking slides to 'never'
[20:03] <pjotter> I tried xset s off. But still the screen keeps blanking after 10 minutes.
[20:04] <pjotter> In a recent install I had the same problems so I completely removed light-locker and installed xscreenaver instead. That worked.
[20:06] <mrkramps> pjotter, xscreensaver worked pretty well for quite some time before light-locker
[20:06] <mrkramps> there is no reason to no use ist
[20:06] <pjotter> I know. But at some point the Xubuntu community desided to replace it with this light-locker (that doesn't work)
[20:06] <mrkramps> or any other "light locker" like i3lock or slock
[20:07] <pjotter> Maybe a silly question: But what is light-locker anyway? Is it essential to the Xubuntu system?
[20:07] <mrkramps> no as far as i know
[20:08] <drc> pjotter: "The solution Xubuntu uses in 14.04 is called light-locker. The light-locker project is a fork of gnome-screensaver 3.6, but cut down to a bare minimum (so no gnome-dependencies), using LightDM’s greeter as the lock (and unlock) screen."
[20:08] <drc> from http://xubuntu.org/news/screen-locking-in-xubuntu-14-04/
[20:09] <pjotter> Hmm.. well I never use sessionlocking anyway
[20:09] <pjotter> I guess I could just purge it form the system?
[20:09] <mrkramps> yes
[20:09] <mrkramps> noticed no negative drawback on my system
[20:09] <pjotter> I'll just do that. I just can't seem to get the thing to work properly
[20:10] <pjotter> With every clean install on nearly every computer I install Xubuntu, this problem occurs.
[20:10] <krytarik> pjotter: light-locker doesn't do any *blanking* in the first place though.
[20:10] <pjotter> krytarik: Why does it have a "blank screen" option?
[20:11] <krytarik> pjotter: But, xscreensaver overrides the DPMS settings.
[20:11] <krytarik> That's used to control those too, by just adding an autostart file.
[20:12] <krytarik> pjotter: That'd be "~/.config/autostart/screensaver.desktop".
[20:12] <hTmlDP> hello
[20:13] <hTmlDP> i'm trying to hibernate my eeepc1201pn
[20:13] <hTmlDP> and it looks like it can't do it.
[20:13] <hTmlDP> well, the button does work, but it like gets stuck while trying to hibernate
[20:14] <hTmlDP> the screen goes black but the power button is still blue
[20:14] <hTmlDP> any idea?
[20:15] <pjotter> I also have an Eeepc 12-something. I only know that there are major issues with hibernating/sleeping/waking etc... I just avoid those situations
[20:15] <genii> ..maybe it's still plugged in ...?
[20:15] <hTmlDP> it used to work with Debian wheezy
[20:15] <hTmlDP> genni: what do you mean?
[20:15] <hTmlDP> genii* ^
[20:17] <genii> hTmlDP: For instance when my laptop is powered off but still on power cord charging, the poser button stays lit. It only goes out entirely when I pull the physical cord from it
[20:17] <genii> poser/power
[20:17] <hTmlDP> genii: i've tried without AC
[20:18] <mrkramps> encrypted drives?
[20:18] <hTmlDP> + the screen is powered on, but black
[20:19] <hTmlDP> mrkramps: what do you mean?
[20:19] <mrkramps> do you use disk encryption?
[20:19] <hTmlDP> mrkramps: i don't think so.
[20:19] <hTmlDP> i have win7 here too
[20:20] <mrkramps> swap parition big enough?
[20:21] <drc> hTmlDP: It might help if you let us know what version of Xubuntu you are using?
[20:24] <drc> hTmlDP: mrkramps might have a point...how much RAM do you have and how big is your swap aprtition?
[20:31] <drc> hTmlDP: And are you sure you are trying "hibernation" and not "suspend"  Suspend to RAM method cuts power to most parts of the machine aside from the RAM and Suspend to disk (Hibernation) method saves the machine's state into swap space and completely powers off the machine.
[20:32] <mrkramps> from what i've been reading now hibernation should be disabled by default ?!
[20:33] <drc> IIRC, correctly, but can be enabled (if one really wants it).
[20:36] <mrkramps> last but not least, it just might be buggy or not properly supporting this perticular netbook
[20:37] <drc> and/or version of Xubuntu (which he still hasn't told us)
[20:38] <drc> So, until we get more information from her/him, I'm out.
[21:28] <sleezio> hello, i know linux formats don't need defragging, but i have a USB 3TB HD formatted NTFS, whats a good defrag app?
[21:29] <mrkramps> sleezio, windows?
[21:29] <sleezio> mrkramps, linux app(if there is one)
[21:30] <mrkramps> sleezio, none of which i know
[21:30] <sleezio> thanks
[22:00] <oraydio> hi?
[22:00] <knome> hello.
[22:01] <oraydio> hi *nod*
[22:21] <oraydio> I installed Xubuntu by way of the mac version of Ubuntu 14.04. I removed Ubuntu Unity and such with some instructions I found, but now the buttons to change the backlight on my Macbook Pro keyboard don't work. Volume and display brightness buttons work. Does anyone know if that's something peculiar to Xubuntu or if I removed something that made that work? I haven't been able to find any recent complaints about that problem.
[22:22] <knome> you likely removed something that made it work
[22:23] <oraydio> any ideas on how I pin down what that was?
[22:23] <knome> technically, xubuntu isn't supported on macs, so unless somebody else on this channel has ventured and tried the same... not really
[22:23] <knome> you might be better asking on #ubuntu, since it shouldn't be related to the DE anyway
[22:24] <Unit193> You could try to install the task and see if it brings anything important in.
[22:24] <Unit193> !info pommed
[22:25] <oraydio> Ooh. okay.
[22:26] <Unit193> oraydio: Speaking as a person that's never used Linux on a mac, that looks like it! :P
[22:26] <Unit193> That'd not have been installed by default in Ubuntu though.
[22:26] <Unit193> There's also a graphical frontend.
[22:29] <oraydio> hm. okay. that'll probably do it. thank you. I'm trying to breathe life back into an old macbook pro, so I'm completely new to using Linux. I'm amazed how easy it is to break while I'm fiddling >_<
[22:29] <Unit193> :D
[22:30] <Unit193> Err, I mean.  That's a bummer that you lost the backlight.
[22:30] <oraydio> haha. not really important, just irksome now
[22:32] <oraydio> I've broken stuff several times now and had to reinstall. "Learn by breaking," I always say. o_o
[23:01] <Reptilia> How can i know if a particular PPA is safe for usage? Are there methods of some kind to help me if a PPA is "legit"?
[23:01] <knome> Reptilia, the answer is the same though
[23:15] <Reptilia> knome:Is there a way to limit the laptop fan' RPM with a utility of some kind? I've installed the "PowerTOP" Utility and i see that when i will turn on a video on Youtube, the laptop is getting noisy, producing that high pitched whine. I am using a Thinkpad T410.
[23:15] <knome> i don't know (and you don't need to ping specific people, anybody here can help))
[23:15] <Reptilia> Yeah, sorry for that
[23:16] <knome> the problem with limiting the speed is that then your laptop will get hot and you likely don't want that either.
[23:16] <Unit193> Dust it out.
[23:16] <knome> that
[23:21] <Reptilia> knome:Yup, true.
[23:22] <Reptilia> Unit193:I doubt it's because of the dust, i think it's the "coil whine", which is a known problem in the T410, 420, 440p, etc...
[23:22] <Reptilia> Unit193:But if you say so, i will try that :)
[23:28] <MrSassyPants> how do I enable middle-mouse-click paste?
[23:31] <MrSassyPants> or alternatively, how do I enable "mark stuff and then it's copied"