[00:03] <MobileRoey> hiii
[00:04] <oceanblue> gn8
[00:04] <MobileRoey> question.. how can I make sure that my system upgrade from 14.10 ->  15.04 finished successfully?  I think it stopped in the middle, rebooted, experienced that hard-to-track bug that turned out having to do with BTRFS.  Fixed that, then I get stuck in Emergency Mode at the prompt.
[00:47] <MobileRoey> johnflux:  hi
[01:13] <JMichaelX> anyone else unable to get desktop effects under OpenGL, using intel/i915, in kubuntu 15.04?
[01:15] <electragician> JMichaelX: is this it?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1447919
[01:25] <phoenixz>  I have just installed kubuntu 15.04 with full encryption, and amongst various problems, the biggest issue I currently have is that for every sudo command, I get this: "Please enter passphrase for disk kubuntu--vg-swap_1 (cryptswap1) on none!"
[01:26] <phoenixz> It's driving me nuts, because I have had about a hundred of those in the past few hours alone... Is there a way I can remove this??
[02:11] <MobileRoey> hello
[02:11] <MobileRoey> is anyone here?
[02:27] <MobileRoey> Hello all, I am trying to figure out why my system (just recently upgraded from 14.10 -> 15.04) seems stuck in Emergency Mode during bootup.
[03:18] <z4g47> hi i haven't  sound in kubuntu 15.04
[03:19] <z4g47> somebody can help me?
[03:27] <Novice> Umm hey guys, I need some assistance.
[03:28] <Novice> Trying to install Kubuntu 15.04 but I think it's stuck on Detecting file systems 100%
[03:28] <Novice> The slideshow still works though
[03:34] <SockFluff> Can someone walk me through the Dual Boot installation process? I've tried a few times but it keeps messing up. :/
[03:41] <re_> help
[03:42] <re_> I have to setup my home network
[03:42] <re_> Could anyone   help me?
[03:43] <SockFluff> Doesn't look like anyone is here
[03:44] <re_> sigh
[03:44] <re_> bye
[04:33] <gunndawg> Anyone know how to increase the font size of skype conversations? changing General font setting in Kubuntu font settings didnt change anything
[04:34] <Etriaph> Using ktp?
[04:34] <Etriaph> If you're using Telepathy you have to change it in the chat window settings.
[04:35] <gunndawg> Etriaph: I'm usint Kubuntu 14.04 not sure if that uses ktp or telepathy
[04:44] <Etriaph> When you have the chat window open, select Settings -> Configure Chat Application
[04:44] <Etriaph> Font and theme settings are in there.
[04:45] <gunndawg> Etriaph: there is no "Configure Chat Application
[04:45] <gunndawg> in skype
[04:46] <Etriaph> Oh, you're using the Skype provided binary?
[04:46] <gunndawg> linux version of skype yes
[04:48] <Etriaph> http://askubuntu.com/questions/124882/change-font-size-in-skype-messaging
[04:48]  * hyper_ch heard that Skype is evil
[04:49] <Etriaph> There are other options other than Skype for VOIP too.
[04:49] <gunndawg> yeah but I need to use skype
[05:40] <mcc> Hi… I'm installing 15.04... I'm staring at the "disk setup" pane...
[05:41] <mcc> i'm curious... i have a /home partition and a os partition.
[05:41] <Etriaph> OS is where Linux, all of your software and configuration will be stored.
[05:41] <Etriaph> /home is just your files, your personal settings.
[05:42] <Etriaph> Is this your first time installing Ubuntu?
[05:42] <Etriaph> *ubuntu rather
[05:46] <mcc> uhh, well, i installed 15.04 beta.
[05:46] <mcc> so what i'm curious is, if i point it at a /home that already exists.
[05:46] <mcc> will it be able to just calmly reuse my existing home directory.
[05:47] <mcc> the 15.04 beta i installed was my first time installing ubuntu on a desktop. before i had used it only on VPS.
[05:50] <valorie> you can reuse your /home if it is on a partition by itself
[05:51] <mcc> 'k cool
[05:51] <mcc> just wanted to make sure before i hit "OK" on the "format drive' button :D
[05:52] <mcc> thanks as always
[05:54] <valorie> I know, it's the scary moment
[06:03] <mcc> ...huh.
[06:04] <mcc> well, i successfully installed, and it doesn't accept the password I just set D:
[06:04] <valorie> that's weird
[06:05] <Etriaph> You should see in the UI which drives are to be formatted and which ones will be left as is.
[06:05] <mcc> hahaha
[06:05] <mcc> oh no
[06:06] <mcc> one try out of 10 or so I get in
[06:06] <mcc> when i originally set the password, I apparently got one letter off * _ *
[06:07] <mcc> can i use the usb boot stick to manually change my password?
[06:12] <Etriaph> Boot in recovery mode and just passwd your user
[06:12] <mcc> ok
[06:12] <Etriaph> It'll drop you to root.
[06:12] <mcc> i can recovery mode from grub?
[06:12] <Etriaph> I know you can do it by booting from the image, likely from grub as well.
[06:14] <mcc> ok
[06:18] <mcc> "passwd: authentication token manipulation error. password unchanged"
[06:19] <mcc> D:
[06:19] <mcc> oh. / is mounted readonly.
[06:21] <Etriaph> Pretty morning pictures:  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1422687/breeze_light.png
[06:25] <SerSelmy_> Hello people
[06:25] <SerSelmy_> Can someone help me with EiskaltDC++
[06:25] <SerSelmy_> I know this is not the right place
[06:25] <SerSelmy_> but I could not connect to their IRC channel
[06:28] <jonah> Hi I hope someone can please help. I've just installed kubuntu-desktop from my original Ubuntu installation. I've then tried to delete all the old ubuntu apps to have a pure kubuntu system. But in the package manager apps still have orange ubuntu logos next to them. the system still seems to think it is ubuntu as it was first installed that way. is there a way to make it Kubuntu and have the blue base system/depends logos there instead?
[06:29] <jonah> I had to install ubuntu first due to using a special boot flash stick for my touchscreen laptop so couldn't install kubuntu to start with...
[06:29] <jonah> I can't figure out how to make the system Kubuntu only and recognise itself as that, doesn't kubuntu use the same repos as Ubuntu... so nothing to update or change there?
[06:30] <Etriaph> They're the same distribution with different default packages and installers.
[06:31] <Etriaph> I'm not even sure where I'd begin answering your question, definitely a very different way to start
[06:33] <jonah> Etriaph: sorry it was the only way I could find to get kubuntu on this machine... but for some reason in synaptic package manager there are ubuntu icons next to certain packages/apps - so if you try remove or add others it sees them as dependants of the ubuntu system... but kubuntu-desktop for example doesn't have a kubuntu logo next to that and isn't seen as part of the core system...
[06:33] <jonah> i hope that makes sense!
[06:34] <Etriaph> jonah: If you can get onto your Plasma 5 desktop, the rest is just some disk cleanup.
[06:34] <Etriaph> jonah: I have some GTK+ apps installed, just no unity.
[06:34] <Etriaph> jonah: GTK+ is still not easy to avoid.
[06:36] <jonah> Etriaph: i'm on the plasma 5 desktop and everything works great and I've cleaned up what I can. but it is just this part about ubuntu logos on packages and not kubuntu logos on the kubuntu ones in the package manager. it is as if my system still thinks it is running ubuntu or that this is the core/base with certain dependancies...
[06:36] <gunndawg> 15.04 annoyed me too much. I went back to 14.04
[06:36] <Etriaph> jonah: Well stray away from synaptic
[06:36] <Etriaph> jonah: Use Muon
[06:37] <jonah> the other question i had was about onscreen touch keyboard support. does kubuntu and plasma 5 have any apps or support for this?
[06:37] <jonah> Etriaph: ok I'll replace it with muon and see how it goes thank you
[06:37] <Etriaph> If you have kubuntu-desktop you should have Muon
[06:37] <Etriaph> Launch -> System -> Muon Discover
[06:37] <jonah> Etriaph: ok thanks
[06:39] <Etriaph> jonah: Never taken the route you did to get it up and running, Ubuntu before installing kubuntu-desktop, but you should have no issue running with KDE.  If drive space is an issue you could chat around here tomorrow and see if anyone knows how to swap the distribution setup over to Kubuntu
[06:39] <Etriaph> gunndawg: Sorry to hear that, but 14.04 is technically a safer bet as it's LTS.
[06:41] <jonah> Etriaph: ok thanks - do you know if plasma 5 or kubuntu 15.04 has any good touch screen keyboard support? I can dock my keyboard and that works but when I undock and just use the tablet I can't type anything. I've tried "Onboard" but it is useless. I wondered if there was a touch keyboard in Kubuntu?
[06:42] <Etriaph> jonah: I have no experience with laptops WRT Linux, I'm workstation Linux laptop Win Vista for testing crap in IE
[06:42] <chrissg> Anyone here got OwnCloud (Client) to autostart minimized to work?
[06:42] <Etriaph> jonah: I'll do a quick search, hold on.
[06:43] <jonah> chrissg: yes my owncloud client starts ok minimised
[06:43] <chrissg> With Plamsa?
[06:43] <jonah> chrissg: but I just installed it through package manager and ran it from the menu. yes with plasma 5.
[06:44] <jonah> chrissg: what does yours do?
[06:44] <jonah> Etriaph: thanks. I searched too but couldn't find much and I'm not sure what is supposed to work best with new kubuntu/kde
[06:44] <chrissg> Well I installed mine thought apt-get too (via repo from owncloud.org) but it keeps popping up on start, ie, the configuration box is always there.
[06:44] <chrissg> It does work, but it's annoying :)
[06:45] <jonah> chrissg: hmm. how did you set it to autostart? i did mine through the kubuntu Autostart manager which is on the menu when you type "startup"
[06:45] <jonah> chrissg: I added owncloud-client i think in there.
[06:46] <chrissg> I only got owncloud and owncloudcmd
[06:46] <jonah> chrissg: i don't get a box or popup or anything on boot up. very odd. have you tried deleting your .cache folder in the home directory? i'm not sure if that would help or not...
[06:47] <jonah> chrissg: ah mine is owncloud-client - i just checked in package manager...
[06:47] <jonah> chrissg: that may be why.
[06:47] <chrissg> What repository are you using?
[06:47] <chrissg> (for owncloud-client?)
[06:48] <Etriaph> It should be in the main repos.
[06:48] <chrissg> 15.04?
[06:49] <Etriaph> I have only the Plasma 5.3 repo added additionally and apt-cache search owncloud shows it's available.
[06:49] <jonah> chrissg: i don't think i added any repos and just used the main kubuntu repos. yes 15.04 - can't remember though i will check i didn't add a repo, i may have done!
[06:49] <chrissg> Removing owncloud and the repo :)
[06:50] <jonah> chrissg: no i'm just using the standard kubuntu repos plus the partner extras.
[06:55] <chrissg> Tried that. Seems to work better, but owncloud(client) now complains about needing a systray. I'll figure it out from here on. Thanks for the pointer :)
[06:55] <chrissg> The supplied version is a "tad" older, tho.
[06:58] <chrissg> Anyway, thanks! o/
[07:25] <valorie> !purekde
[07:26] <Unit193> Sadly that is outdated. :(
[07:26] <valorie> doesn't work anymore?
[07:26] <valorie> ah, I see "gnome" packages
[07:26] <valorie> that's oooold
[07:26] <Unit193> valorie: Look at the version. ;)
[07:28] <phoenixz> How can I disable my touchpad on Kubuntu 15.04? The fn+F9 key combination to do this no longer seems to work, and my laptop has a horrible touchpad that responds every 5 seconds with clicks while I"m hovering with my hands over it while writing text, and as such its clicking all over the place.. I have a separate mouse and I need this touchpad disabled..
[07:29] <dubis> Hi, on my new plasma 5 I installed the bleutooth manager from Muon is it the good way ? or there is a corporate kdebleutooth I've to
[07:31] <valorie> dubis: bluetooth is waiting on the ubuntu developers
[07:32] <valorie> Plasma 5 needs a newer bluetooth stack than they are allowing yet
[07:32] <valorie> Unit193: this might be the basis for a new post: http://www.tecmint.com/remove-unity-and-install-cinnamon-and-mate-desktop-in-ubuntu-14-10/
[07:33] <dubis> valorie I didn't understand well : is it available or not?
[07:33] <valorie> bluetooth is not working yet
[07:33] <valorie> and it will not work until bluez5 is in the archive
[07:34] <dubis> valorie: So Bluetooth manager is the good way in waiting :-)
[07:34] <valorie> we don't know when they will let it in
[08:05] <kustodian> I updated yesterday to 15.04 and it made my system almost impossible to use. Everything is too slow, I'm not sure what to do.
[08:05] <kustodian> CPU isn't used that much, it's like the graphics are too slow
[08:06] <kustodian> I have an Nvidia Quadro 2000 and I installed the latest nvidia drivers
[08:06] <kustodian> I'm not sure what to do
[08:07] <kustodian> browsers work the slowest (FF and Chrome), but FF is extremely slow
[08:07] <soee> kustodian: updated from what version ?
[08:07] <kustodian> the previouse one (was it 14.10?)
[08:07] <hateball> kustodian: How did you install the drivers, using the GUI installer or from nvidias website or some such?
[08:07] <kustodian> GUI installer
[08:08] <kustodian> let me check which drivers are currently enabled
[08:09] <kustodian> even while I'm typing in the webchat in FF the text which I'm typing lags from time to time
[08:09] <hateball> Oh, just googling this seems like it's an optimus card?
[08:09] <hateball> Is it a laptop?
[08:09] <kustodian> oh no
[08:09] <kustodian> it's PC
[08:09] <hateball> hmmm
[08:09] <kustodian> Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2400 CPU @ 3.10GHz
[08:09] <hateball> Alright, that's good then
[08:09] <kustodian> 8GB RAM (2.5GB is currently free, so it's not swapping or anything)
[08:10] <hateball> kustodian: does "lsmod|grep -i nvidia" return anything?
[08:10] <kustodian> nvidia 346.59
[08:10] <hateball> so you can see the driver is actually loaded
[08:10] <kustodian> it says that one is recommended
[08:10] <kustodian> I tried glxgears
[08:10] <kustodian> since those don't work if it's not loaded
[08:10] <kustodian> I will check in xorg.log
[08:12] <kustodian> [    36.596] (II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" [    36.596]    compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 [    36.596]    Module class: X.Org Server Extension [    36.596] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module  346.59  Tue Mar 31 13:38:58 PDT 2015 [    36.596] (==) Matched nvidia as autoconfigured driver 0 [    36.596] (==) Matched nouveau as autoconfigured driver 1 [    36.596] (==) Matched nvidia as autoconfigured driver 2 [    36
[08:12] <kustodian> uf too much text
[08:12] <kustodian> [    36.596] (II) LoadModule: "nvidia"
[08:12] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:12] <kustodian> [    36.596] (II) Loading /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xorg/extra-modules/extra-modules.dpkg-tmp/nvidia_drv.so
[08:12] <kustodian> but after that I think I see nouveau being loaded as well
[08:13] <kustodian> [    36.597] (II) LoadModule: "nouveau"
[08:13] <kustodian> [    36.611] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nouveau_drv.so
[08:13] <kustodian> why would it load both drivers?
[08:13] <hateball> because nouveau hasnt been blacklisted properly perhaps, which the GUI should do
[08:13] <kustodian> lsmod finds nvidia
[08:14] <kustodian> nouveau is not found with lsmod
[08:14] <hateball> weird
[08:14] <kustodian> so I guess it's not loaded
[08:15] <phoenixz> Okay, touchpad disabled, yay.. Keyboard shortcuts were missing for some reason, I added them. I tried adding the shortcuts for screen brightness up and down as well, but for some reason, fn+F5 and fn+F6 are not being recognized, so I can't set those
[08:15] <kustodian> I can see a few /etc/modprobe.d/ rules for blacklisking nouveau
[08:16] <hateball> kustodian: I guess you could try switching to the 340 driver (it's still there right?)
[08:16] <kustodian> yea it is hateball
[08:16] <kustodian> I'll try
[08:16] <soee> for vivid i would recommend 346
[08:16] <hateball> I've got a GTX770 and it works with 346, but who knows what regressions may exist
[08:17] <soee> kustodian: just for test ->
[08:17] <kustodian> what is the difference between 340 and 340-updates?
[08:17] <soee> backup .config and .kde folders
[08:17] <soee> and remove them, than reboot
[08:17] <kustodian> I think I tried a new user account
[08:17] <kustodian> which is the same deal as what you described
[08:18] <kustodian> and it still felt slow
[08:18] <kustodian> for example
[08:18] <kustodian> I have a dual monitor
[08:18] <kustodian> when I try to move the window from one screen to another, it lags everytime between two screens
[08:18] <kustodian> the same happened on the other account
[08:18] <kustodian> and performance felt the same
[08:19] <hateball> kustodian: You could also try changing OpenGL options for KDE, to use 3.1 instead of 2.0 etc
[08:19] <hateball> alt+f2 (krunner) search for "compositing"
[08:20] <kustodian> I think I tried that as well, but I didn't notice any difference
[08:20] <hateball> hmmm
[08:20] <kustodian> I'm changing the driver now
[08:20] <kustodian> I'll try all the things you suggested and get back to you when I try them all
[08:22] <phoenixz> Is a disappearing mouse cursor on 15.04 a known issue?
[08:22] <kustodian> also I disabled all animations to check if they were the problem, but it's the same
[08:33] <Azuu> hello. Can someone help me out here and tell me, how can I make the calendar widget to show week numbers. It worked fine in 14.0 but not in new 15.02
[08:34] <gunndawg> 15.02?
[08:34] <Azuu> yes
[08:35] <gunndawg> I've never heard of that
[08:35] <Azuu> of what?
[08:35] <gunndawg> of what you just said "yes" to
[08:35] <Azuu> it's 15 something... the one available for Kubuntu
[08:36] <Azuu> 15.04 i the correct number
[08:41] <phoenixz> Azuu: All (k)ubuntu version numbers are year.month where month is either 04 (april) or 10 (october), so 15.04 is the version of april, 2015
[08:47] <nighter> how can I change the "look and feel theme" in kubuntu? It's not possible to choose anything else then breeze. Desktop theme I can change but not look and feel. In my archbox kde plasma5 looks different there I can change look and feel theme. Why?
[08:48] <nighter> I want to use evenos theme as I use on my arch kde plasma5 installation.
[08:48] <nighter> is plasma that chips with kubuntu to old?
[08:49] <hateball> nighter: What version of Kubuntu are you using?
[08:49] <nighter> 15.04
[08:49] <hateball> nighter: That has Plasma 5.2
[08:50] <hateball> Which by default should also have oxygen theme
[08:50] <nighter> yes but I cant switch from "Breeze" look and feel theme
[08:50] <nighter> that sucks.
[08:51] <nighter> that makes kde look ugly.
[08:51] <nighter> try to figure out how to check plasma version.
[08:51] <nighter> since i tried to upgrade from backports but not sure it went ok.
[08:52] <hateball> Backports is 5.3
[08:52] <hateball> nighter: apt-cache policy plasma-desktop
[08:53] <nighter> thanks Installed: 4:5.5.4.0-0ubuntu15.04~ppa1
[08:54] <nighter> thanks Installed: 4:5.3.0-0ubuntu15.04~ppa1
[08:54] <nighter> i mean :P
[08:54] <nighter> ok guess is not the plasma version then.
[08:54] <hateball> Are there no readmes included with the theme you're trying to use?
[08:54] <hateball> It might have some other unfulfilled dependency
[08:55]  * hateball only uses whatever is default really, fullscreens all the things
[08:56] <nighter> no readme
[08:56] <nighter> but it looks like i run plasma 5.2.2 on my archbox.
[08:56] <nighter> strange if they remove that feauture to change look and feel theme.
[08:59] <Azuu> phoenixz: thank you for the information. But my question is still the same :) how can I see week numbers in this damn calendar widget that pops up if you click on a clock widget
[08:59] <Azuu> I use KDE for work and I need week numbers
[09:16] <kustodian> hateball: I tried all combinations and finally I disabled compositing
[09:16] <kustodian> I also disabled baloo, which was hoging my disk
[09:18] <pkulas> Is any way to search channels in Konversation?
[09:19] <lordievader> !alis | pkulas
[09:20] <pkulas> ubottu : Yeah I know I can use bot service, thought there is any plugin or something for Konversation
[09:20] <pkulas> ah
[09:20] <pkulas> xD
[09:22] <nighter> thanks guys I solved it. It was my fault they have changed so much so you customized it on a different place.
[09:22] <nighter> now everything works perfectly
[09:24] <hateball> kustodian: baloo shouldnt be hogging more than on the first run when it has to index all the things
[09:25] <kustodian> I guess baloo would stop later on, but everytime I boot it indexes again which slows down my PC a lot, since I don't have an SSD
[09:29] <Azuu> hello. Can someone help me out here and tell me, how can I make the calendar widget to show week numbers. It worked fine in every 14 but not in new 15.04
[09:29] <yossarianuk> ok - Tried 15.04 + 5.3 PPA last night on 2 machines
[09:30] <yossarianuk> 1) Laptop - Intel GPU = Fine, 5.3 is great
[09:30] <yossarianuk> 2)Desktop - Nvidia GPU - OMG it ruined my machine!
[09:30] <yossarianuk> With the Nvidia desktop it no takes about 2 minutes to boot (instead of seconds)
[09:30] <yossarianuk> *now*
[09:31] <yossarianuk> Only after installed Plasma 5.3 oddly...
[09:31] <Azuu> boot or load KDE?
[09:31] <yossarianuk> To load KDE
[09:31] <yossarianuk> I also cannot see what it is doing - i.e if I remove quiet splash you see nothing but black
[09:31] <yossarianuk> i.e I cannot see the boot message.
[09:32] <yossarianuk> Also I cannot access any console on the other TTY's - i.e CTRL+ALT+F2 just sees black.
[09:32] <Azuu> 15.04 is also slow to load. Takes 34 seconds. Not happy about it at all. And if you got 2 users and 2 sessions, one active, it starts to suck really bad, sucking up all the CPU
[09:32] <yossarianuk> Azuu: It seems fairly fast before I added 5.3 PPA...
[09:33] <yossarianuk> My Intel laptop boots in less than 5 secs (its on an SSD..)
[09:33] <Azuu> mots annoying is that I have to log out (not just lock the screen) for kids to use PC or my kwin session slows the PC down to a crawl
[09:34] <Azuu> and vice versa
[09:36] <pkulas> For me Kubuntu 15.04 load way longer compared to Ubuntu or other on SSD but  I don't really care
[09:36] <Azuu> lets put it this way. KDE has slowly turned in to huge pile of bloatware. It all started with this version 4 :(
[09:37] <Azuu> and now I they have lost the fkn week numbers form the calendar widget.
[09:37] <Azuu> (mandatory Fuuuuccc... guy picture)
[09:39] <kustodian> what's up with instant messaging?
[09:40] <kustodian> why it's not loaded on startup
[09:40] <kustodian> like before, and
[09:40] <kustodian> when I click on the icon, it opens a big popup from bottom which displays a big person icon
[09:40] <Azuu> Huh...I just realized, I have used KDE for 12 years and for real life work
[09:40] <kustodian> which then I need to click to display contact list
[09:41] <kustodian> so it needs two clicks to display contact list
[09:41] <pkulas> kustodian : You can add im to startup
[09:41] <hateball> pkulas: Are you using things like "fade to desktop" features for the login manager?
[09:41] <hateball> I find it adds extra seconds for no good reason
[09:42] <pkulas> hateball: defaults settings
[09:42] <hateball> Feels like it's a set time, rather than fading proportionate to how long it takes
[09:42] <kustodian> pkulas: how can I add to startup?
[09:42] <pkulas> kustodian: find Autostart in menu
[09:43] <hateball> pkulas: Did you upgrade so you're using SDDM rather than lightdm also?
[09:43] <kustodian> ok, I know that one
[09:43] <kustodian> I thought there is a setting in im
[09:44] <pkulas> hateball: fresh install + backports ppa for 5.3
[09:44] <hateball> Azuu: did you see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338195 ?
[09:45] <Azuu> WHAT!
[09:46] <Azuu> those guys are turning KDE int a fkn toy :(
[09:52] <yossarianuk> Azuu: i have also been using KDE for my main work desktop for about 13 yrs...
[09:52] <yossarianuk> Started with Mandrake Linux...
[09:52] <Azuu> yossarianuk: I am getting more and more disappointed by every new version :(
[09:53] <pkulas> Mandrake Xtreme Edition was best distro ever :P
[09:53] <yossarianuk> Azuu: no way Plasma 5.2 is excellent
[09:54] <hateball> Well the framework is there to fix the missing week numbers
[09:54] <yossarianuk> 5. is great on non Nvidia hardware...
[09:54] <hateball> fwiw, I'm having no issues at all with 5.2 on my gtx770 with nvidia binary
[09:55] <pkulas> Is it hard to code week number function :?
[09:56] <pkulas> number of day - weekday and divide by 7
[09:56] <yossarianuk> Actually I would argue in some ways Mandriva was more usable that most modern distros.
[09:56] <yossarianuk> i.e the fact it had a centralised control panel.
[09:56] <pkulas> Not Mandriva
[09:56] <yossarianuk> that controlled everything...
[09:56] <pkulas> Mandrake
[09:57] <yossarianuk> Mandrake
[09:57] <pkulas> Day when it changed to Mandriva it was poor distro
[09:57] <yossarianuk> They changed their name...
[09:57] <Azuu> yossarianuk: eye candy has 0  value in my book :)
[09:57] <yossarianuk> plasma 5 is faster seemingly than gnome3/cinnamon/kde4.
[09:59] <Azuu> gnome is a joke and was ruined by some half ass ideas long time ago
[09:59] <Zerkalerka> plasma so beautiful
[09:59] <Azuu> looks like KDE is taking that same road
[09:59] <pkulas> Azuu: because week number is missing?
[09:59] <yossarianuk> Azuu: I completely disagree
[09:59] <Azuu> it started with this idiotic nepomuk or what ever this horror was called
[10:00] <Azuu> pkulas: no, lots of small things
[10:00] <yossarianuk> Azuu: Gnome took away most config/control from the user
[10:00] <Azuu> yossarianuk: exactly
[10:00] <yossarianuk> Azuu: KDE is just as configurable as it always was
[10:00] <yossarianuk> (presently missing the weather applet in Plasma 5.x but that is coming)
[10:01] <Azuu> but it's getting more and more bloated and some features can not be turned of - like this semantic desktop BS and so on
[10:01] <yossarianuk> Its less bloated.
[10:01] <Azuu> are you sure?
[10:01] <yossarianuk> Kwin memory use has been cut by a rather large amount
[10:02] <Azuu> yossarianuk: not so. at some version I can not have 2 sessions (2 users) running at the same time
[10:02] <Azuu> If I lock the screen and kids log in, my kwin sucks up CPU and memory like nad
[10:02] <Azuu> *mad
[10:03] <Azuu> Kids lock the screen, I log in, my kwin acts normal, but the other starts the same
[10:03] <Azuu> it happened few versions back
[10:03] <lordievader> Azuu: Did you report a bug against kwin?
[10:04] <yossarianuk> are you running Plasma 5.2  or 5.3 ?
[10:04] <Azuu> really annoying because I usually for not log out for weeks
[10:04] <Azuu> now I have to do it every damn day
[10:04] <yossarianuk> report a bug then - maybe your H/W combo that has a rare issue.
[10:06] <Azuu> I do not have a bug tracker account
[10:07] <Azuu> I had once but my reported stuff just sat there for years and years
[10:07] <lordievader> Azuu: Create one ;)
[10:08] <lordievader> Without a bug report you cannot really expect things to get fixed. Especially if they are bugs that are rather specific.
[10:09] <yossarianuk> Azuu: so this is not a bug with Plasma 5.x then ?
[10:09] <Azuu> why bother. I hope there is someone else wit a Radeon HD 6950 card out there and has a same problem :)
[10:10] <Azuu> yossarianuk it has something to do with kwin and not Plasma 5.x
[10:11] <yossarianuk> Azuu: but kwin has been redesigned for Plasma5.x I believe
[10:12] <lordievader> Jup, there is quite a lot of development in kwin.
[10:13] <lordievader> Azuu: Talk to mgraesslin in #plasma about your kwin bug ;)
[10:16] <hateball> "why bother" is the sort of attitude that doesnt really change things :p
[10:18] <yossarianuk> is anyone else having loads of issues with Plasma 5.3 + Nvidia ?
[10:19] <lordievader> yossarianuk: I've heared of many problems with Vivid + nVidia.
[10:19] <yossarianuk> Im beginning to think it was something else - it doesn;t make sense that upgrading KDE would make me loose the abilit y to view a TTY (i.e ALT+CTRL+F2)
[10:19] <yossarianuk> after upgrading all I get ais a black screen (no login) on any TTY except F7 (the desktop)
[10:20] <yossarianuk> I wish I had used BTRFS, I could have easily reverted...
[10:20] <yossarianuk> (Or LVM)
[10:21] <yossarianuk> one thing the (k)Ubuntu desktop installer NEEDs to improve and that is LVM
[10:21] <yossarianuk> Unless you want to use the entire disk you need to  make the LV volumes before installing - which is bad.
[10:21] <lordievader> yossarianuk: mini iso ;)
[10:22] <yossarianuk> its either (1) the entire disk (minus boot) (2) no LVM (3) use premade partiitons.
[10:22] <hateball> Joe Average probably does not care about LVM on his laptop, so no focus is placed on that
[10:22] <lordievader> Like I said mini iso, its capable of doing luks + lvm just fine, however you like your lvm/luks to be.
[10:23] <yossarianuk> but seems silly to remove the option to configure how you want...
[10:23] <lordievader> Exactly if you know what lvm and luks are you can probably set it up yourself.
[10:23] <yossarianuk> Fedora/Debian/Opensuse all have the option...
[10:23] <yossarianuk> And Ubuntu server...
[10:23] <hateball> I'd argue that they target more "tech savvy" users in general
[10:23] <hateball> As does server
[10:23] <hateball> Anyhow, it's quite !ot :)
[10:23] <yossarianuk> Well I guess hopefully everyone will be using BTRFS soon anyway for root...
[10:24] <Azuu> lordievader: thanks. I'll talk to mgraesslin
[10:24] <lordievader> yossarianuk: Hehe, no.
[10:25] <yossarianuk> lordievader: you don't think ?
[10:25] <yossarianuk> lordievader: OpenSUSE and SUSE enterprise use it as default now.
[10:25] <lordievader> yossarianuk: I'm fine with ext4, tried and true.
[10:26] <yossarianuk> The ability to quickly snapshot is useful - i,.e before any update..
[10:26] <lordievader> But like hateball said, lets continue this in #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:26] <yossarianuk> BTRFS is faster in some benchmarks also.
[10:33] <yossarianuk> anyway - after putting plasma5.3 on my machine i couldn't really use it - I reinstalled just before bed ...
[10:34] <yossarianuk> I will this time make a backup (clonezilla, etc) pre -upgrading
[10:34] <yossarianuk> i'm almost sure it wasn't due to plasma5.3 but something else.
[10:34] <yossarianuk> if it happens again i'll bug report.
[10:37] <yossarianuk> i should point out that my intel GPU laptop is running fine with plasma 5.3
[10:40] <lordievader> Same here.
[10:41] <alvin> I agree with the Luks+LVM. The installer does a good job, but shrinking the partitions afterwards is not that easy.
[10:41] <lordievader> Heh, shrinking such stuff still gives me nightmares. Luckily I have only done it once, successfully.
[10:43] <Azuu> thanks you for your help. hopefully kwin guys can figure this out
[10:43] <lisacvuk> Hi, I have no transparency in Plasma 5, can anyone help me?
[10:44] <lisacvuk> OS Is kubuntu 15.04
[10:44] <yossarianuk> lordievader: another advantage of BTRFS - easy live online shrinking...
[10:44] <lisacvuk> and graphics are Intel GMA 945
[10:45] <yossarianuk> lisacvuk: where are you missing it?
[10:45] <lisacvuk> Everywhere: WIdgets, taskbar, windows etc.
[10:45] <lordievader> yossarianuk: The filesystem is not the problem when shrinking luks...
[10:46] <yossarianuk> lordievader: ah ok - sorry didn;t see you were talking about luks.
[10:46] <yossarianuk> lisacvuk: If your h/w is opengl 3.x compatible possibly try changing the rendering backend ?
[10:47] <lisacvuk> Errr... My open gl is 1.4 :(
[10:47] <yossarianuk> lisacvuk: you can find out - install mesa-utils, then run
[10:47] <lisacvuk> I did :)
[10:47] <yossarianuk> ah ok
[10:47] <lisacvuk> glxinfo | grep gl
[10:47] <yossarianuk> So you are using the Xrender renderer ?
[10:47] <lisacvuk> probably
[10:47] <lisacvuk> How do I check?
[10:48] <yossarianuk> if that is the case that is why you are missing the feature.
[10:48] <lisacvuk> hmm
[10:48] <yossarianuk> check in - systemsettings -> display config -> compositor
[10:48] <lisacvuk> ok
[10:48] <lordievader> Xrender can do transparency. (In Plasma4 anyways)
[10:49] <yossarianuk> ok I didn't realise that...
[10:49] <lisacvuk> ahhh, it was 2.0, now it works
[10:49] <yossarianuk> cool
[10:49] <lisacvuk> I changed to xrenderer
[10:49] <lisacvuk> thank u
[10:49] <lisacvuk> WTF? Transparency works! Lol
[10:49] <yossarianuk> you may have other performance issues using it (possibly)
[10:49] <yossarianuk> glad you have the feature ....
[10:50] <lisacvuk> :) I'll be getting new graphics this year
[10:50] <lisacvuk> And year is a lot of time :) I hope there will still be transparency in Kubuntu 15.10
[10:51] <lisacvuk> thanks again, bye
[10:52] <yossarianuk> it would be good for KDE to detect your GPU and change to correct renderer automatically (i.e opengl3, etc)
[11:08] <pkulas> Sad. After I installed Qt Creator plasma is broken for my user, need to use diffrent acount
[12:12] <pkulas> what files should I remove to reset plasma/kde settings and get plasma working for my user again?
[12:13] <jlotonah> copy all the content from /root to /home/your user, chown -R youruser /home/youruser
[12:13] <jlotonah> && done
[12:14] <pkulas> jlotonah: thanks
[12:14] <jlotonah> sudo cp -rf * /root /home/pkulas && sudo chown -R pkulas /home/pkulas
[12:14] <jlotonah> welcome
[12:15] <pkulas> brb
[12:15] <MobileRoey> hi
[12:15] <MobileRoey> why do I see this error message a lot?  error getting authority: Error initializing authority: Could not connect: No such file or directory (g-io-error-quark, 1)
[12:22] <pkulas> Well It worked for first time I logged but after I added default bottom panel all crashed again
[12:22] <pkulas> However can run apps by alt+f2
[12:23] <jlotonah> i suggest backup everythink before " rm -rf * /home/you"
[12:23] <jlotonah> and copy from root && chroot
[12:23] <lordievader> A lone *, yikes.
[12:23] <jlotonah> eh chown.
[12:23] <pkulas> oh. What about just remove all hidden files?
[12:24] <jlotonah> erase everythink, backup your work with dolphin now
[12:24] <pkulas> ok
[12:24] <pkulas> When I backup everything better will be just to remove user,userdir and add it again
[12:25] <jlotonah> you can do adduser yep
[12:25] <jlotonah> or usermod -l
[12:28] <jlotonah> pkulas: that odd because thr root files overwrite  your user settings, probably something "extra" is causing the problem
[12:29] <pkulas> jlotonah: I installed Qt 5.4 SDK before crash, it crashed just when installation was finished
[12:29] <jlotonah> sorry i cant help much
[12:30] <jlotonah> youre with root?
[12:30] <jlotonah> idk i run kernel 4.0/Xorg
[12:31] <jlotonah> have myself selfies problems with this box
[12:32] <pkulas> ls
[12:32] <pkulas> not here*
[12:32] <jlotonah> that is a bug indeed
[12:35] <pkulas> brb
[12:42] <Squidy> hello... I usually use an application called nagstamon on systray to monitor my nagios server... So I've upgraded my kubuntu to version 15.04, and the nagstamon icon does not show on systray anymore.. Do you know how to fix this?
[12:43] <lordievader> Squidy: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/
[12:47] <rghvdberg> hi all, when I connect my Canon EOS to kubuntu 15.04 (fresh install) nothing really happens. No pop up and I don't see a device in Dolphin.
[12:48] <rghvdberg> Should I install any aditional drivers ?
[12:48] <rghvdberg> the camera shows up in lsusb and in /var/log/kern.log
[12:52] <rghvdberg> huh ? when I type camera:/ in Dolhin it shows up ?
[12:53] <MobileRoey> hi lordievader
[12:53] <MobileRoey> make my ship go?
[12:53] <lordievader> MobileRoey: Wut?
[12:53] <MobileRoey> first,hi.  Second, was wondering if you've seen this error before:
[12:53] <MobileRoey> why do I see this error message a lot?  error getting authority: Error initializing authority: Could not connect: No such file or directory (g-io-error-quark, 1)
[12:54] <lordievader> Where do you get that error?
[12:54] <MobileRoey> lordievader:  "make our ship go" is a reference to a particular episode of "Star Trek: The Next Generation".
[12:54]  * lordievader has never seen any Star Trek episode.
[12:54] <MobileRoey> lordievader:  when  I exit from the Emergency Mode shell, and hen I try to manually start networking services.
[12:54] <MobileRoey> lordievader:  aha
[12:54] <pkulas> That's strange. Now plasma crash for every user
[12:54] <pkulas> :D
[12:55] <pkulas> me : Kubuntu 0;1
[12:55] <pkulas> It was working before for new users
[12:55] <MobileRoey> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeFoGo3N_4g  <-- lordievader
[12:57] <lordievader> MobileRoey: What kernel do you run? (I suppose this is Vivid?)
[12:57] <MobileRoey> 15.04's stock
[12:57] <MobileRoey> Linux kernel:  3.19.0-15-generic #15-Ubuntu SMP
[12:58] <z4sk4> hi all
[12:58] <lordievader> MobileRoey: What do you run to get your network up?
[12:58] <z4sk4>  i see that now compact wirelles its called backports, i download backports 3.19-rc1-1 for my kernel 3.19.0-15-generic on Kubuntu 15.04 but i cant compile... i have build essentials, linux-headers, etc. there are any repo for this packet?
[12:58] <MobileRoey> lordievader:  I manually ran this as a test (it normally runs on bootup):  /etc/rcS.d/S11networking start
[12:59] <MobileRoey> and also got an additional error message,
[12:59] <MobileRoey> Failed to start S11networking.service:  Unit S11networking.service failed to load: No such file or directory.  failed!
[12:59] <lordievader> MobileRoey: You need to use the systemd stuff to setup your networking, not sysvinit scripts,
[13:00] <lordievader> MobileRoey: No NetworkManager?
[13:00] <MobileRoey> what;sthe process name
[13:00] <MobileRoey> I'll look it up
[13:00] <MobileRoey> and I eognize that Kubuntu followed suit and changed to systemd
[13:01] <MobileRoey> I don't kow how this will change my network confivgration
[13:01] <MobileRoey> BluesKaj:  hi :)
[13:01] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:01] <lordievader> MobileRoey: What's the output of 'sudo systemctl status NetworkManager"?
[13:01] <BluesKaj> hi MobileRoey
[13:02] <MobileRoey> it says:
[13:02] <lordievader> !paste | MobileRoey
[13:02] <MobileRoey> loaded (/lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
[13:02] <MobileRoey> Active: inactive (dead)
[13:02] <MobileRoey> April 29 12:03:18 gear systemd[]: Stopped Network Manager.
[13:03] <MobileRoey> lordievader:  yeah understood wrt/ pasting.
[13:03] <lordievader> MobileRoey: sudo systemctl start NetworkManager; then configure your networking through the Network Manager.
[13:03] <MobileRoey> Now it says:
[13:03] <MobileRoey> Error getting authority:  Error initializing authority:  Could not connect:  No such file or directory (g-io-error-quark, 1)
[13:04] <MobileRoey> BBIAB.
[13:08] <lordievader> MobileRoey: Odd, check journalctl to see if that shows more.
[13:40] <nikola_> upgrade to 15.04 broke my kubuntu in so many ways
[13:44] <alvin> Start listing them. Maybe we can help.
[13:45] <alvin> What's the replacement of nm-tool ?
[13:45] <Roey> hi all
[13:45] <nikola_> I resolved most of them, skype gone nowhere to be found
[13:45] <nikola_> installed it again, but the notification area (tray) icon doesn't work
[13:46] <nikola_> had two login screens the first time system booted
[13:46] <nikola_> had to enter my password in both
[13:46] <nikola_> lightdm greeter stuffed
[13:46] <nikola_> had to remove the package and install it again
[13:47] <nikola_> then I realized it's not even supposed to use lightdm but sddm, installed that, got the new login screen finally
[13:47] <hateball> nikola_: SDDM is the way to go on 15.04
[13:47] <hateball> hehe
[13:47] <nikola_> my ram usage was around 10gb
[13:47] <nikola_> I had both kdeinit4 and kdeinit5 in the list of running processes
[13:48] <nikola_> with all the children
[13:48] <nikola_> had to remove plasma-desktop and kubuntu-desktop packages and install them again
[13:49] <nikola_> it would have been easier to do a clean install :(
[13:50] <nikola_> the only thing still not working is device notifier, it doesn't recognize my camera
[13:50] <nikola_> I can access it by typing camera: in dolphin
[13:51] <Roey> hateball:  hey do you know systemd much?
[13:51] <nikola_> but there's no entry for it in the file manager
[13:52] <hateball> Roey: Nope
[13:54] <Roey> oh ok
[14:03] <mparillo> nikola_: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/03/system-tray-in-plasma-next/
[14:06] <Roey> lordievader, BluesKaj:  I have a journalactl -xb log here:  http://pastebin.com/ztnWD6S9  <-- what exactly is failing here on system startup?
[14:07] <Roey> hateball:  ^
[14:08] <nikola_> mparillo: I guess I'll have to wait for them to update skype :)
[14:18] <Hamsterjam> nikola_: I had to set the resolution on the camera to get it work in Skype, if that helps
[14:20] <alvin> Yeah, the system tray thin is irritating. owCloud doesn't like it too.
[14:21] <soee> alvin: owncloud works fine for me
[14:22] <alvin> soee: It works fine, yes. But it does no longer start minimized.
[14:22] <alvin> As does quasselclient. The --hidewindow option is ignored since plasma5
[14:56] <z4sk4> hi all i try to install backports but i cant see my usb wifi
[14:56] <z4sk4> i need install the original drier first?
[14:56] <z4sk4> i user kubuntu 15.04
[14:56] <z4sk4> driver*
[15:14] <z4sk4> hi please help to install drivers of backports... i install on kubuntu 15.05 and nothing happen
[15:16] <Pici> Theres nothing newing than 15.04, so I wouldn't expect to see anything backported yet.
[15:27] <z4sk4> please somebody can help me
[15:27] <z4sk4> i install and reinstall, uniinstall, reboot and nothing
[15:28] <BluesKaj> wondering if dropbox icon shows in the system tray at startup, can't see it in setings either
[15:28] <BluesKaj> install what. z4sk4?
[15:30] <z4sk4> BluesKaj: the backports, for have all driver for vluetooth, rfid and wifi
[15:30] <z4sk4> bluetooth*
[15:31] <z4sk4> i follow this: https://backports.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Documentation/packaging
[15:31] <z4sk4> but still havent got wireless and with airmon.ng didnt see nothing too
[15:31] <BluesKaj> z4sk4:  for which kubuntu release?
[15:32] <z4sk4> BluesKaj: 15.04
[15:33] <z4sk4> BluesKaj: i try to search on the repo of vivid, but nothing too... and i need backports drivers for monitoring (normaly the drivers of repo arent pacth it)
[15:34] <BluesKaj> z4sk4:  15.04, plasma 5.3 ? launchpad kubuntu-backports ppa?
[15:34] <z4sk4> i compile and install ok and i run  too : update-initramfs -u
[15:36] <z4sk4> BluesKaj: i have the vivid backports, but nothin in the repo about backports drivers, dont understand why
[15:37] <BluesKaj> those are all avaiilable the repos/package manager , dunno why you think they have to be compiled from source, z4sk4
[15:38] <z4sk4> BluesKaj: i search backports, and only have a ruby and python package, no more
[15:39] <z4sk4> i search compact-wirelles too and nothin (its the old name)
[15:39] <z4sk4> but the compilation was ok, i install too, and ok, nut nothing works
[15:42] <BluesKaj> z4sk4:  try this, https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports
[15:43] <Blu_> hi guys ...can any one tell me how to install wifi drivers in kubuntu 15.4 ? when i use driver manager , it says i dont need any drivers.. .. but i need wifi and Nvidia drivers :(/... plz help
[15:44] <z4sk4> Blu_: same situation
[15:44] <Blu_> ooh :(
[15:46] <Blu_> ubuntu 15.04  can detect and install wifi and Nvidia drivers... but kubuntu cant ... :(
[15:46] <BluesKaj> Blu_:  which nvidia gpu?  most work with the nvidia-340 driver
[15:47] <BluesKaj> odd driver manager sees my gpu and gives me a recommended driver
[15:49] <Blu_> it cant detect my gpu ... its some 2gb Nvidia card .. :( ... i can live without graphics driver but its not detecting my wifi too ..
[15:50] <BluesKaj> Blu_:  in the terminal , lspci |grep VGA
[15:51] <Blu_> terminaloutput >> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09) .................. not showing my gpu ..damn :((
[15:53] <Blu_> its fresh install ...let me update and reboot .... thx for help BluesKaj .. ty
[15:56] <Roey> BluesKaj:   http://pastebin.com/ztnWD6S9  <--- where is the error here that stops normal system startup for me?
[15:57] <BluesKaj> he didn't update and upgrade after the install, no wonder
[15:59] <BluesKaj> Roey:  where does it stall ? it's easier if we don't have to read long strings
[16:01] <bip> Hello :)
[16:02] <bip> I have kubuntu 14 LTS but i want change in Testing mode
[16:02] <bip> How i can make it?
[16:03] <BluesKaj> testing what?
[16:04] <bip> BluesKaj: LTS releases are not suitable for development
[16:04] <Roey> BluesKaj:  it gives me several error messages.  Seems like I'm having an issue with systemd on my end.  Just upgraded to Kubuntu 15.04, get dumped into an Emergency Mode shell where I see no networking.  I try systemctl enable NetworkManager, and get an error: error getting authority: Error initializing authority: Could not connect: No such file or directory (g-io-error-quark, 1)
[16:04] <Roey> BluesKaj:  I asked about it in #systemd and they said that it was an issue with one of my external backup drives not loading (I should make sure I have nofail mount option for this drive in /etc/fstab)
[16:04] <BluesKaj> no, they're already developed , bip
[16:05] <BluesKaj> Roey:  why not just tell us where it stalls in the boot process
[16:06] <Roey> it dumps me to an Emergency Shell.
[16:06] <Roey> and if I ctrl-D out of it, it times out for a minute and then dumps me back into Emergency Mode shell.
[16:06] <BluesKaj> after grub ?
[16:06] <Roey> right.
[16:06] <Roey> this is during bootup, after it has already mounted the disks.
[16:06] <z4sk4> BluesKaj:  that repo havent got the backports drivers too...
[16:06] <Roey> but before it activates networking.
[16:07] <BluesKaj> ok drop to a tty/vt and do , systemctl enable sddm
[16:07] <z4sk4> imposible to have backports drivers of repo and if i try install of source install correcctly but nothing working...
[16:10] <LGTrader> How does one restart X from the command line in Kubuntu-15.04?
[16:12] <BluesKaj> LGTrader:  drop to a tty/vt and run systemctl sddm stop, the run startx
[16:14] <z4sk4> somebody on kubuntu 15.04 vivid, can install backports?? https://backports.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Documentation/packaging#Usage_guide       I install it, but cant see my wirelless USB
[16:15] <LGTrader> Thanks. Much to learn about systemd. I'm coming from Gentoo where I never used it.
[16:16] <BluesKaj> LGTrader:  it's new to kubuntu and us as well
[16:16] <genii> z4sk4: There are only backports when there is a release which is later than the one you are using. So in this case since no 15.10 yet, 15,04 does not have anything backported to it.
[16:17] <LGTrader> Actually, I just tried the command but it didn't work. "Unknown operation 'sddm'." I'll research
[16:18] <z4sk4> genii: thanks, but i try to install backports 4.1 for monitorinf wireless, but the drivers dosnt work...
[16:18] <z4sk4> i install the package manually
[16:19] <BluesKaj> LGTrader:  did you choose lightdm at installation, I assumed you chose sddm
[16:19] <BluesKaj> if so just sub lightdm for sddm
[16:19] <PercyB> Is someone maybe using Shutter? I'm just wondering: gnome-web-photo is installed, but taking a pic of whole websites still does not work
[16:20] <LGTrader> It's running. "sddm.service                            loaded active running   Simple Desktop Display Manager"
[16:21] <BluesKaj> LGTrader:  then systemctl disable sddm , i kind of reaching as well here
[16:23] <LGTrader> Actually the Arch Wiki for systemd had some nice examples. It's 'systemctl stop sddm', not 'sddm stop'
[16:24] <BluesKaj> LGTrader:  ok , thanks
[16:25] <BluesKaj> BBL, errands
[16:25] <LGTrader> Also, startx restarted X with no login screen. Just right into a KDE desktop. (I'm doing this shelled into the Kubuntu machine from my long-term Gentoo machine)
[16:25] <LGTrader> I suspect I probably want to use 'systemctl start sddm' to get a normal login screen. Trying now
[16:26] <LGTrader> Yeah, that's better.
[16:27] <LGTrader> I was looking for a way to reboot remote machines my family will be using when I convert them over this year. Tired of running Gentoo on 5 machines.
[16:27] <LGTrader> Not reboot, sorry. Restart X
[16:27] <PercyB> Ok, sorry, it seems to work, just needed a restart.
[16:28] <LGTrader> systemctl restart sddm works also
[16:30] <alvin> What is the modern method to request an IPv6 lease?
[16:30] <alvin> preferably using the command line, but network-manager may be involved.
[16:32] <Roey> Hey all.  http://www.itworld.com/article/2914850/linux/is-ubuntu-moving-away-from-deb-packages-here-is-the-complete-story.html  <-- wtf is with this Snappy shit?  Will Kubuntu also replace .debs with Snappy?
[16:32] <Roey> LGTrader:  your nick looks very liberal and progressive
[16:34] <alvin> I don't know. I believe it's a bad idea, unless I don't understand it. PC-BSD had a system like that in the past. 'PBI'. All packages where put in a container together with the necessary dependencies. It
[16:34] <alvin> 's a fine system for small packages, but eventually they stopped using it because it's next to impossible to package a KDE application for example.
[16:35] <alvin> Too many stuff that has to talk to each other using dbus and so on. I'll see if I can find the explanation
[16:39] <alvin> This was th explanation: https://forums.pcbsd.org/thread-16632.html
[16:41] <LGTrader> Roey: Don't know why you say that but, OK, thanks. I try to be a nice guy... ;-)
[16:42] <Roey> LGTrader:  because here in Washington DC it's all LG(B)T
[16:42] <Roey> used everywhere.
[16:43] <LGTrader> Roey: <hehe> OK, cool. And I live near San Francisco so one needs to be tolerant living here but for me it was my old location (Los Gatos) and the fact that I trade stocks (Trader)
[16:45] <Roey> makes perfect sense!!
[16:45] <Roey> Los Gatos.  That sounds like a place name from Grand Theft Auto (note to self: better familiarize myself with California names)
[16:45] <LGTrader> Roey: And good for me to know so as not to step on anyone's toes.
[16:45] <Roey> aye
[16:46] <Roey> I mean if you go to #linguistics they'll probably start talking to you about that.
[16:46] <Roey> same as #kde-cafe or other places full of young people
[16:48] <LGTrader> Roey: Cheers
[16:51] <Roey> LGTrader:  l8r
[16:52] <wldcordeiro_> Is there a way to get KDE 5.3 on Kubuntu 15.04?
[16:55] <mparillo> KDE 5.3 = Plasma 5.3?
[16:55] <mparillo> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5.3
[17:02] <gaboo> "KDE 5.3" does not exist :)
[17:02] <gaboo> but yes, the latest desktop is plasma 5.3
[17:08] <PercyB> I'm just wondering: There is Plasma Active for touch screen devices. If I have Kubuntu 15.04, how do I install plasma active? Or is it a completely different version?
[17:38] <__CM__> in KDE plasma 5 what does the push pin in the title bar do? anyone know?
[17:40] <Pici> __CM__: if its anything like any other DEs I've used, it pins that to always be on top. (I don't use KDE myself)
[17:40] <__CM__> hmm
[17:40] <__CM__> for some reason it causes tbird to show on all screens
[17:41] <__CM__> on the other 2 work spaces
[17:51] <z4sk4> please help i install this, but nothing works: https://backports.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Documentation/packaging#Usage_guide
[18:06] <Roey> Riddell:  hey Jonathan, is Kubuntu jumping away from .deb and onto Snappy like Ubuntu's doing? Should I be concerned? http://www.itworld.com/article/2914850/linux/is-ubuntu-moving-away-from-deb-packages-here-is-the-complete-story.html
[18:07] <nascentmind> Hi. I did a sudo do-release-upgrade and interrupted it by pressing ctrl+c while it was downloading. Now when I do a sudo do-release-upgrade again it says "No new release found". How do I fix this?
[18:10] <BluesKaj> nascentmind:  try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:10] <ejay> hi all
[18:11] <BluesKaj> hi ejay
[18:12] <nascentmind> BluesKaj, did that. Does not help.
[18:12] <nascentmind> BluesKaj, Can I just change sources.list to vivid and just do a dist-upgrade?
[18:13] <BluesKaj> nascentmind:  ok try do-release-upgrade -d, if that doen't work then you need to try a clen install
[18:14] <BluesKaj> err clean
[18:14] <nascentmind> BluesKaj, that too does not work.
[18:17] <BluesKaj> nascentmind:  if your sources.list hasn't changed from utopic, then  yes, but do it this way in the terminal, sudo sed -i 's/utopic/vivid/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:19] <BluesKaj> then do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt get upgrade , lastly sudo apt-get dist-upgrade , nascentmind
[18:20] <nascentmind> BluesKaj, it was changed to vivid. I changed it back to utopic as I thought it might create some problem.
[18:21] <nascentmind> BluesKaj, I will change it back to vivid now and do the above  steps.
[18:21] <BluesKaj> nascentmind:  I think it's too late
[18:22] <nascentmind> BluesKaj, why?
[18:23] <nascentmind> BluesKaj, It didn't start installing any packages. It was just downloading it.
[18:23] <BluesKaj> ok good then it might bwork
[18:23] <BluesKaj> err work :)
[18:25] <ejay> Guys, did anyone here tried to install radeon drivers on Radeon/Intel laptops? In Kubuntu14 it does not worked for me.
[18:28] <BluesKaj> ejay:  which kubuntu 14 ?
[18:30] <ejay> BluesKaj, it was 14.04 updated daily.
[18:33] <ejay> BluesKaj, just after installing 14.04 even had problem with two gpus running at once but X used only intel (no acceleration and such) but I did fixed this fast (my laptop was hot as hell!). After fresh installation of 15.04 it is using intel only but I didn't even try to install radeon drivers.
[18:41] <Leo___> opa
[18:46] <BluesKaj> ejay:  you have both intel and radeon gpus ...is this like the optimus system on laptops, that switches gpus depending the video load ? or are you talking about a pci gpu and one on the motherboard
[18:54] <ejay> BluesKaj, it is laptop solution - two gpus fixed to motherboard. In windows you can switch between them. In kubuntu I found something like switcherooo but it is not working, at least it did not work for me (but thanks to this switcherooo I disabled radeon cards bc of issue with both gpus running at the same time).
[18:54] <ejay> card*
[18:55] <wldcordeiro> How can I update kde to 5.3 in Ubuntu
[18:55] <ejay> I tried both open radeon driver and AMD's Catalyst. I can live without acceleration, I'm just curious if someone did managed to make this work. ;)
[18:57] <BluesKaj> wldcordeiro:  https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports
[18:59] <jlotonah> xD
[18:59] <BluesKaj> ejay: not sure , I have heard about the intel and nvidia dual gpu sytem called optimus working with the nvidia-prime configuration. Maybe there's one for dual inteland radeon gpus as well.
[18:59] <MoonUnit`> ejay: did you try vgaswitcheroo?
[19:01] <MoonUnit`> ejay: never mind, read previous comments
[19:02] <ejay> MoonUnit, I did. On prev installation. I don't want to mess now with my laptop right now. Just asking. This radeon/intel is not very popular it seems. ;)
[19:03] <MoonUnit`> according to the arch wiki the fglrx drivers should support switchable graphics. hmm.
[19:05] <ejay> MoonUnit, oh, and there was an package conflict with fglrx and last version of wine. Not using wine anymore (and maybe there is no such conflict right now) so I will try to make this work this weekend.
[19:23] <20WAA57N9> My window manager just crashed, I have window contents, but not the windows itself with the taskbar, etc.. Plasma seems gone as well.. In kubuntu 14.10 I could restart that (iirc) with kwin and / or plasma-desktop
[19:23] <20WAA57N9> How do I restart these in kubuntu 15.04?
[19:24] <20WAA57N9> alt-tab is not working, going to other desktops is not working, yakuake is not working either, but I do have a konsole running
[19:25] <acz32> are other ttys working?
[19:25] <acz32> switch to one
[19:25] <20WAA57N9> acz32: yes, I have a konsole, I can also ctrl-alt-f1
[19:25] <genii> If you have Konsole in your X, try: kwin --replace
[19:25] <20WAA57N9> acz32: alright, I cannot alt-tab, but I can start another one.. What do I do in that console?
[19:25] <acz32> can't you just log out from there and startx again?
[19:25] <20WAA57N9> kwin seems no longer to exist on 15.04
[19:26] <20WAA57N9> acz32: I have an e2fsck running in yakuake (yeah, I know) and it was like at 95% after 2 days, I don't want to restart that..
[19:26] <acz32> 20WAA57N9: you would switch to whatever tty your session is, control-C to stop it, then startx
[19:27] <20WAA57N9> acz32: I don't want to stop this session because then I'll lose that e2fsck and have to start all over again
[19:27] <20WAA57N9> I did not really think that the deskopt would crash on me like that, or I would have run it on a text console
[19:28] <20WAA57N9> Any other way then to restart the window manager? The how to do that changed with 15.04
[19:28] <genii> 20WAA57N9: I'm asking in the developer's channel aboput that but no reply yet
[19:29] <20WAA57N9> genii: it used to be kwin, right?
[19:29] <genii> 20WAA57N9: Yes indeed
[19:29] <genii> I'm currently on 14.10 or could empirically look for it
[19:29] <20WAA57N9> genii: Just checked again to be sure, no kwin command on 15.04, and google is not too helpful
[19:30] <BluesKaj> 20WAA57N9:  kwin ios onstalled by default on 15.04
[19:31] <BluesKaj> ios=is
[19:31] <20WAA57N9> BluesKaj: is installed? I have a clean 15.04 install, and I see no kwin at all
[19:32] <genii> Odd, I see kwin as a dependency in http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/kubuntu-desktop
[19:33] <genii> Ah, 15.04 kwin has two possibles: kwin_wayland or kwin_x11
[19:33] <BluesKaj> 20WAA57N9:  check your systemsettings>applications>default apps
[19:33] <20WAA57N9> genii: Ahh. alright, that will probably be kwin_x11
[19:33] <20WAA57N9> genii: but hold on.. 15.04 has wayland already?
[19:34] <genii> 20WAA57N9: You could likely see what it's currentlo on with ps aux| grep kwin  ..or similar
[19:35] <BluesKaj> 20WAA57N9:  15.04 has some wayland libs
[19:35] <20WAA57N9> genii: BluesKaj: kwin_x11 --replace did the trick.. I still have no alt-tab though, but at least I can see yakuake and the e2fsck output
[19:35] <genii> Cool
[19:35] <BluesKaj> 20WAA57N9:  yeah alt-tab isn't working here either
[19:35] <20WAA57N9> BluesKaj: but that means "wayland works" or not?
[19:35] <20WAA57N9> genii: thanks man!
[19:36] <genii> 20WAA57N9: Glad to assist.
[19:36] <20WAA57N9> genii: e2fsck somehow got a ^C... at 98%... god I want to cry..
[19:38] <genii> Well, shouldn't take as long next pass then, at least
[19:45] <BluesKaj> odd stuff going on here genii , suddenly alt-tab started working
[19:46] <genii> Very odd
[19:46] <genii> Maybe it's some focus thing
[19:46] <BluesKaj> almost like a daemon was enabled
[19:47] <phoenixz> *sigh*.. reboot,  sddm crash.. restart from console, yay, it works, go back to console, exit, back to GUI, X running at 100% CPU and all slow as hell...  I need a 15.04 bug fix update soon :(
[19:48] <BluesKaj> system starts dropbox like init used to in startup , but doesn't link the icon to the system tray
[19:49] <BluesKaj> systemd that is
[19:52] <blubberbop> Why do I have apps disappearing?
[19:53] <z4sk4> hi, i have this problem when i run airmon-ng... soooo strange: ALSA lib pulse.c:243:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Connection refused
[19:53] <blubberbop> Meaning, I have chrome, and its on the task bar, on desktop one.. then suddenly its gone.. I have komodo edit, on desktop 2.. and its gone.. I check pgrep komodo, its still running.. start it again from ALT-F2, the desktop seems to spin and sudddenly its visible again!
[19:54] <blubberbop> Where can I file bug reports for kubuntu? I have about a list of 20 by now
[20:02] <genii> 8 seconds is not long enough to ansdwer that
[20:02] <BluesKaj> heh, yeah
[20:04] <jlotonah> 3
[20:13] <Spec-Chum> long time arch use finally got fed up of having to configure everything so thought I'd try Kubuntu.  Very impressed so far!  New laptop with all bells and whistles working fine
[20:13] <Spec-Chum> *user
[20:18] <acz32> Spec-Chum: did you use KDE on arch?
[20:19] <Spec-Chum> yes buddy, well that and openbox
[20:19] <acz32> i used openbox by itself. not having to write xml anymore is nice
[20:19] <Spec-Chum> I'm not new to KDE but I am new to Kubuntu
[20:22] <Spec-Chum> I just got fed up having to use nano every time I installed something new on arch :p
[20:22] <Spec-Chum> I've not touched a thing on this install
[20:23] <Spec-Chum> actually, that's a lie, I'm using the dark theme
[20:24] <ejay> Spec-Chum, I remember using slackware ~10 years ago. Arch is super user friendly compared to slackware. Been using arch for couple of years as well but, same as you, had enough of messing with conf files. Welcome aboard.
[20:25] <Spec-Chum> thanks :)
[20:33] <phoenixz> When will the first bug fix packages come in?? Right now, on reboot, I need t reboot about 15 times before I get an sddm session that does not crash
[21:36] <Spec-Chum> OK dumb question time cos I've never used linux on a laptop heh, how the heck do I change the gamma?
[21:36] <Spec-Chum> my blacks are crsuhing from about 8 down
[21:37] <Spec-Chum> on windows I just bumped up the brightness in the intel display config
[21:41] <MobileRoey> hi al
[21:42] <MobileRoey> hi....so... my system boots now and SDDM lets me select the session type (fvwm, Plasma, etc.)--but I don't see any button for anything else.  What gives?? I have two monitors here btw.
[21:45] <Spec-Chum> nm, I got it, xgamma :P
[22:30] <coderus> will kubuntu 15.04 repositories be updated with Plasma 5.3 or should we use https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports?
[22:33] <Hairo> so, wifi ap mode is still broken
[22:33] <Hairo> gg