[06:29] <dholbach> good morning
[06:43] <leandrosansilva> Hello to all. Is there any generic installer for ubuntu snappy? I found some kvm appliances and images for r-pi and bbb, but  no "iso" image
[06:45] <dholbach> you can find all the available images on http://developer.ubuntu.com/snappy/start
[06:46] <dholbach> but I guess that's already where you found the other images
[06:46] <leandrosansilva> dholbach: What I need is install snappy in a physical machine (atom processor)
[06:47] <dholbach> I don't know if we have instructions for that
[06:47] <dholbach> you can either wait for somebody else to answer the question, or you could mail snappy-devel@lists.ubuntu.com
[06:47] <leandrosansilva> oh, thank you
[06:48] <dholbach> no worries :)
[07:33] <tbr> leandrosansilva: I'd highly suspect that just DD'ing the KVM image to a drive/usb-stick would work
[07:35] <tbr> I'm a bit unclear about how the snappy hardware adaptation is done. As ubuntu obviously runs on physical machines, etc.
[07:37] <leandrosansilva> tbr: thank you, I`m going to try this approach
[07:54] <willcooke> hey sergiusens, I saw on the snappy ML that you guys are working on an installer this cycle.  Do you need any desktop-style requirements from us?
[07:59] <willcooke> o/ seb128
[08:00] <seb128> hey
[08:01] <dholbach> willcooke, sergiusens and co is at a sprint right now, so I'm not quite sure how much they pay attention to IRC
[08:01] <dholbach> if nobody responds, maybe send a mail to snappy-devel@lists.u.c?
[08:01] <willcooke> ah, thx dholbach - I'll follow up on the ML
[08:01] <dholbach> rock and roll
[08:02] <willcooke> I'm going to do that now, otherwise I will forget...
[08:04] <dholbach> :)
[08:07] <willcooke> This marks an important stage in my life:
[08:07] <willcooke> The second time ever that I've learnt something good from a mailing list.
[08:22] <sergiusens> willcooke: yes we are; we only brainstormed until now, we would need to put our notes out in the wild and I guess you can work it from there; we are going to focus on the core side of it and leave it to olli's team to work on personal (UI)
[08:23] <sergiusens> willcooke: but in a nutshell, it's run live with an option to install
[08:23] <willcooke> sergiusens, sounds great - thank you!
[08:24] <willcooke> seb128, I wonder if we can wrap ubiquity around it?  Get that Ubiquity port to Mir everyone wants too?
[08:24] <willcooke> sergiusens, do you know if there will be a UOS session on in?
[08:26] <sergiusens> willcooke: I'll be spending time off next week and I think uos is next week, but maybe we can add one
[08:26] <willcooke> sergiusens, no worries, I'll keep an eye on the schedule.  If not, if you could ping me when the docs are available and we can pick it up from there.
[08:28] <seb128> willcooke, I'm unsure ubiquity is a fit, it's based on the debian installer and quite much on debs systems
[08:28] <seb128> willcooke, what we need there is closer from e.g usb-creator
[08:28] <willcooke> seb128, NEW INSTALLER! \o/
[08:28] <seb128> something that dump an image on a disk
[08:28] <seb128> haha
[08:28] <willcooke> I'm going to write it in bash script
[08:28] <seb128> though part of ubiquity would make sense to reuse maybe, like partitionner
[08:28] <seb128> :-)
[08:29] <sergiusens> we talked about it, it's a simpler problem to solve that ubiquity
[08:29] <willcooke> oh, yeah - partitioning will be interesting
[08:29] <seb128> at the same time, does partitionning is a feature we want to support?
[08:29] <seb128> or is snappy just a "take over the disk" type of system?
[08:30] <willcooke> hrm - good call, probably dont need to worry about it too much at this stage
[08:30] <sergiusens> those question are in our notes, but feel free to ramble on, you might end up with good ideas
[08:31] <sergiusens> :-)
[08:36] <mvo> sergiusens: https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy-ubuntu/+bug/1449904
[09:02] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy World Wish Day! :-D
[11:13] <sennn> what is snappy?
[11:22] <zer0x> i have a problem installing remotely a .snap
[11:22] <zer0x> WARNING, trying automatic key setup, if it fails use --pub-key [path-to-key] or input your password on every request.
[11:22] <zer0x> Failed to setup keys: no pub ssh key found, run ssh-keygen first
[11:23] <zer0x> and then it ask me for 3 times the password:ubuntu
[11:23] <zer0x> but it give me error: issues while running ssh command: Usage:snappy [-h] [-v]
[11:23] <zer0x>              {info,versions,search,update-versions,update,rollback,install,uninstall,tags,config,build,booted,chroot,framework,fake-version,nap}
[11:23] <zer0x>              ...
[11:23] <zer0x> snappy: error: unrecognized arguments: --allow-unauthenticated
[11:25] <zer0x> then I try to use eclipse to copy paste my .snap and then to install it locally
[11:25] <zer0x> and i get the error: Package architectures "all" not compatible with system architecture "armhf"
[11:25] <zer0x> (I forget to mention I use beaglebone black)
[11:50] <leandrosansilva> Hello to all. How can I generate a ubuntu snappy image? I mean, how is the kvm image available for download generated? I`d like to do the same process but internally in the company I work. The basic idea is creating a snappy image with a few more things installed, as I could not find a way to install things on it except for snappy.
[11:51] <leandrosansilva> I`ve been researching about system-image-cli command
[15:01] <Odd_Bloke> Where is cloud-init able to write to on boot?  Would it be able to write in to a temporary directory?
[15:43] <mwenning> Hi snappy guys, has anyone modified the snappy image so that it can be netbooted?
[15:48] <dholbach> mwenning, many folks working on snappy are at a sprint now - if nobody answers, you could try to write a mail to snappy-devel@lists.ubuntu.com
[15:49] <mwenning> dholbach, in Malta?
[15:49] <dholbach> yep
[15:49] <mwenning> dholbach, that's where I am ;-) , I'll ask around
[15:49] <mwenning> thx
[15:49] <dholbach> haha
[15:49] <dholbach> great
[15:49] <dholbach> find sergiusens or mvo or asac or lool
[15:50] <dholbach> I'm sure they're going to have answers for you
[16:18] <tbr> hmmmmm, so the current snappy amd64 generic image doesn't have capability to boot on a EFI system out of the box?
[16:26] <dholbach> tbr, many folks working on snappy are at a sprint now - if nobody answers, you could try to write a mail to snappy-devel@lists.ubuntu.com
[16:27] <tbr> dholbach: yeah, no need to repeat yourself. no I'm not at the sprint myself. yes, if nobody answers I'll email the list, like I did before.
[16:27] <dholbach> tbr, sorry about that
[16:27] <dholbach> I couldn't quite remember who I replied to in this channel
[16:27] <tbr> though it's faster to just install a virtual ubuntu server image on uefi and copy over whatever will be missing
[16:28] <dholbach> I just realised that many are interested in snappy after the release
[16:28] <tbr> dholbach: someone else, but it scrolled through my view just minutes ago
[16:28] <dholbach> and that some might be disappointed if they come here and don't get their questions answered
[16:28] <dholbach> yeah, I didn't check when you actually joined
[16:28] <tbr> dholbach: I was disappointed by the lack of help /before/ the release. ;-)
[16:29] <dholbach> some folks were sprinting there as well ;-)
[16:29] <dholbach> all right... I call it a day - have a good one yourself!
[16:29] <tbr> yeah, I know. the usual "ZOMG release day comethfast!" frenzy
[16:30] <dholbach> exactly :)
[16:30] <dholbach> see you around!