| robert_ancell | bregma, I'm trying to get the convergence demo set up - do you happen to know what version of Ubuntu touch that is based on? | 00:48 |
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| bregma | robert_ancell, no idea, you'll need to ask Will I think | 01:01 |
| pitti | Good morrning | 05:00 |
| didrocks | good morning | 06:00 |
| seb128 | hey didrocks & desktopers | 06:07 |
| didrocks | hey seb128 | 06:08 |
| larsu | morning! | 06:23 |
| seb128 | hey larsu | 06:29 |
| pitti | hey didrocks, seb128, and larsu! wie gehtsZ? | 06:30 |
| seb128 | hey pitti | 06:30 |
| seb128 | zzehr gut, danke! und dir? | 06:30 |
| didrocks | hey pitti, larsu! | 06:30 |
| larsu | I'm great, thanks! | 06:31 |
| larsu | how are yo guys? | 06:31 |
| pitti | larsu: ... apparently not paying enough attention to IRC :) quite well, thanks! | 07:01 |
| * pitti enjoys working on non-emergency things for a change | 07:01 | |
| larsu | pitti: haha enjoy ;) | 07:03 |
| willcooke | morning | 07:12 |
| willcooke | didrocks, you know all that packet loss I was telling you about.... and how once it had arp'd again pings would work for a little while before stopping.... | 07:17 |
| willcooke | duplicate IP address | 07:17 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke | 07:17 |
| willcooke | hey seb128 | 07:17 |
| willcooke | seb128, I've signed you up to a few UOS sessions | 07:17 |
| willcooke | seb128, I'll just go for blanket coverage and then we can work out what is really needed once all the sessions are there | 07:18 |
| willcooke | we should try and spread the load a bit | 07:18 |
| willcooke | I think I will have to be at all of them, but we should spread the others around | 07:18 |
| willcooke | I dont think robert_ancell will be able to cover any of them though :( | 07:18 |
| larsu | morninf willcooke! | 07:19 |
| larsu | *g | 07:19 |
| willcooke | g'day larsu | 07:19 |
| seb128 | willcooke, I saw, thanks | 07:19 |
| willcooke | In other news.... | 07:19 |
| willcooke | I am very concerned that it's nearly May already | 07:19 |
| didrocks | willcooke: ahah, nice one on duplicated IP address… We always think about firewalling banning, and iptables rules before thinking about the easy guilty one :) | 07:19 |
| willcooke | What happened to the rest of the year !?! | 07:20 |
| didrocks | willcooke: I hope you blame your dhcp now! | 07:20 |
| willcooke | didrocks, worse - I configured it wrong, plain and simple. What an idiot! :) | 07:20 |
| didrocks | ahah ;) | 07:20 |
| willcooke | So I'm now running a load-balanced set up which seems to be working. | 07:21 |
| willcooke | More testing today, and then I'll write it up | 07:21 |
| * willcooke -> school run | 07:32 | |
| hikiko | hello :) | 07:32 |
| hikiko | didrocks, do you think it's safe to temporarily uninstall systemd and use init in vivid? I have troubles each time I restart services and when I restart lightdm I have to reboot (and even reboot doesn't work, I need to press the button after running reboot) | 07:34 |
| hikiko | I ve uninstalled it successfully on debian unstable | 07:34 |
| hikiko | but I didn't take the risk in ubuntu yet.. :) | 07:35 |
| hikiko | (+I had several other minor problems) | 07:37 |
| didrocks | hikiko: what do you mean by init? like sysvinit? | 07:42 |
| hikiko | yes | 07:44 |
| hikiko | and install systemd-shim for the services | 07:45 |
| didrocks | it's been years that sysvinit isn't supported, I doubt it will even boot, upstart should still work though, but unsupported for the ubuntu desktop image | 07:45 |
| didrocks | hikiko: what would be more interested is to debug your issues | 07:45 |
| didrocks | as most of people don't seem to have this | 07:45 |
| didrocks | I'm sure pitti or I will be pleased to help you | 07:45 |
| hikiko | I think other people have this lightdm issue too +I'm sure debugging is better I was just wondering because it happens to have 2 vivid installations so, maybe it's faster to work in the non-systemd one while we debug the systemd | 07:47 |
| seb128 | hikiko, what do you do exactly and what is happening? | 07:48 |
| didrocks | hikiko: well, I guess you will be the "we" as there is no other bug report (AFAIK) about such issues | 07:48 |
| didrocks | so better to debug it with you, (now ideally) | 07:48 |
| hikiko | sure :) | 07:48 |
| didrocks | so let's start with this "I have troubles each time I restart services" | 07:49 |
| hikiko | :s/services/desktop services! | 07:49 |
| didrocks | what command are you running, what are you trying to restart and what happens? | 07:49 |
| hikiko | i try to restart with sudo daemon restart | 07:49 |
| hikiko | is this correct? | 07:49 |
| hikiko | eg: | 07:49 |
| didrocks | which service, for instance? | 07:49 |
| hikiko | sudo lightdm restart | 07:49 |
| didrocks | no | 07:49 |
| didrocks | this isn't supported | 07:49 |
| hikiko | :D | 07:49 |
| didrocks | (and never was) | 07:49 |
| didrocks | sudo systemctl restart lightdm | 07:50 |
| hikiko | ok :) | 07:50 |
| hikiko | pebcak | 07:50 |
| hikiko | let me try :) | 07:50 |
| didrocks | sure :) | 07:50 |
| hikiko | ok now I ve run this it worked (so, apologies the restart was a pebcak) but I got another problem | 07:51 |
| hikiko | maybe it's another pebcak... :D | 07:51 |
| hikiko | when i start unity and compiz crashes (because for example I ve done a bug in the code or sth) | 07:52 |
| hikiko | I return to the lightdm login screen | 07:52 |
| hikiko | and if I re-login successfully | 07:53 |
| hikiko | the previous session is gone and lightdm starts a new one | 07:53 |
| didrocks | when you say "when I start unity", it means: | 07:54 |
| hikiko | +this happens every time i try to run unity --replace ... | 07:54 |
| didrocks | 1. you are in your session | 07:54 |
| didrocks | 2. hack hack hack, build… | 07:54 |
| willcooke | seb128, did you see on the snappy mailing list, sergiusens said they're working on an insaller for Snappy this cycle \o/ | 07:54 |
| didrocks | 3. unity --restart | 07:54 |
| didrocks | right? | 07:54 |
| hikiko | yes or ./unity --restart | 07:54 |
| didrocks | (meaning, restarting unity… actually compiz from inside the session) | 07:54 |
| hikiko | exactly | 07:54 |
| didrocks | interesting that this crashes the session | 07:54 |
| didrocks | so, first, this has nothing to do with systemd (it's still upstart managing the session) | 07:54 |
| didrocks | I doubt anything change, I'm looking at the unity7 upstart script, it doesn't seem to have any magic to kill the session if compiz fails | 07:55 |
| hikiko | I know for sure that other people get this too | 07:55 |
| didrocks | seb128: do you know if we still have this "RequiredComponents" or if any change in gnome-session for this? | 07:55 |
| hikiko | chris townsend for example got it yesterday | 07:55 |
| hikiko | didrocks, also, I don't know if that helps | 07:55 |
| hikiko | when I ran | 07:55 |
| didrocks | hikiko: do you have any other .crash in /var/crash than compiz? (like a gnome-session one or whatsover) | 07:55 |
| hikiko | sudo restart lightdm | 07:56 |
| hikiko | I got an upstart error | 07:56 |
| didrocks | yeah | 07:56 |
| didrocks | those commands are upstart ones | 07:56 |
| hikiko | yes | 07:56 |
| hikiko | so it's normal | 07:56 |
| hikiko | to get the errors | 07:56 |
| hikiko | right? | 07:56 |
| didrocks | so, basically until lightdm (included) everything is managemed by systemd | 07:56 |
| didrocks | and there is no lightdm upstart script | 07:56 |
| seb128 | didrocks, gnome-session still has required component, but some jobs got moved from being gnome-session spawned to be upstart services | 07:56 |
| didrocks | after that, it's upstart | 07:56 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, unity7 is one of them | 07:56 |
| didrocks | I wonder why compiz crashing trash the session though… | 07:57 |
| hikiko | in var/crash i have the compiz crashes | 07:57 |
| didrocks | nothing else? | 07:57 |
| seb128 | didrocks, pitti, I think I mentioned it before, but could be make "restart" being a wrapper and make it call "systemctl restart" under systemd? | 07:57 |
| hikiko | and some very old from | 07:57 |
| hikiko | guvcview (a broken camera app) | 07:57 |
| didrocks | seb128: restart is still used for session job as well | 07:57 |
| hikiko | skype, chromium | 07:57 |
| didrocks | seb128: so you need to know which kind of job are used | 07:57 |
| hikiko | vbox | 07:57 |
| hikiko | mmm | 07:57 |
| seb128 | willcooke, just saw for the installer, that's great! | 07:57 |
| hikiko | I have a usr_bin_signon-ui | 07:58 |
| didrocks | yeah, nothing that's related to the session-components itself :/ | 07:58 |
| seb128 | didrocks, well, check the uid? | 07:58 |
| didrocks | seb128: that can work, sure | 07:58 |
| willcooke | seb128, I've poked them in #snappy to see if they need any input from us - I might follow up with an email to the ML as well | 07:58 |
| seb128 | willcooke, good, I should probably be on that channel, joined | 07:59 |
| didrocks | seb128: btw, taping "restart" only close the current g-t window | 07:59 |
| didrocks | (actually all) | 07:59 |
| seb128 | Try `restart --help' for more information. | 07:59 |
| seb128 | it does here | 07:59 |
| didrocks | hikiko: let's wait for Laney (he should be around soon), if he heared about such behaviors) | 07:59 |
| didrocks | seb128: tried 3 times, it closes the g-t window here | 08:00 |
| seb128 | didrocks, weird | 08:00 |
| didrocks | and I can't ctrl+alt+t now :/ | 08:00 |
| didrocks | grumph | 08:00 |
| seb128 | didrocks, do you have the binary installed? | 08:00 |
| didrocks | "the binary"? | 08:00 |
| seb128 | "restart" | 08:00 |
| didrocks | yeah | 08:00 |
| seb128 | "which restart" | 08:00 |
| hikiko | also didrocks I don't know if I made this clear: unity --replace always sends me to the login screen not only when compiz crashes, +compiz crashes send me to the login screen too (2 different cases) | 08:00 |
| didrocks | and it's the upstart one, of course, I checked it | 08:01 |
| didrocks | hikiko: interesting, I guess it's something for Laney | 08:01 |
| seb128 | hikiko, didrocks, could be that restarting unity this week screws the job state and makes other job act in response | 08:01 |
| hikiko | +also: didrocks thanks for the help :) +sure, I ll wait for Laney :) | 08:01 |
| didrocks | seb128: quite a lot of things in the session restarted | 08:02 |
| didrocks | hikiko: yw! | 08:02 |
| didrocks | seb128: u-s-d, and so on | 08:02 |
| seb128 | didrocks, weird... | 08:02 |
| didrocks | weird you don't have the same "restart" behavior | 08:02 |
| seb128 | $ restart | 08:02 |
| seb128 | restart : nom de la tâche manquant | 08:02 |
| seb128 | Try `restart --help' for more information. | 08:02 |
| seb128 | $ | 08:02 |
| seb128 | $ which restart | 08:02 |
| seb128 | /sbin/restart | 08:02 |
| didrocks | and no crash either, it really restarted some session services | 08:03 |
| Laney | WHAT | 08:03 |
| didrocks | hey Laney! | 08:03 |
| seb128 | howdy mr Lane | 08:03 |
| Laney | greetings! | 08:03 |
| hikiko | hahaha | 08:04 |
| hikiko | hi Laney :) | 08:04 |
| hikiko | Laney, I've got an issue after I upgraded to vivid I don't know if it's something in my settings or my use of systemd or a bug in the setup | 08:05 |
| hikiko | but I remember that chris had it too yesterday when I first got it | 08:06 |
| hikiko | when I run ./unity --replace ... (for a unity I ve built) I see the lightdm login screen and if I login, I login to a new session | 08:07 |
| hikiko | +sometimes this happens when compiz crashes and I try to restart it | 08:08 |
| darkxst | Laney, late pong, we don't ship overlay-scrollbars, so no problems there. how it gtk 3.16 looking for update? | 08:19 |
| Laney | darkxst: try the ppa | 08:19 |
| Laney | you had some problems last time i remember | 08:20 |
| Laney | hikiko: is this new? | 08:20 |
| darkxst | Laney, problems mixing gtk 3.16 with gnome-shell 3.14 | 08:20 |
| darkxst | but we won't do that | 08:20 |
| hikiko | Laney, this started at the time I upgraded to vivid (a few days ago) | 08:23 |
| darkxst | Laney, there doesnt seem to be any easy way around the theming issues, so will just upload core 3.16 along with gtk | 08:26 |
| ricotz | Laney, darkxst, please take a look at the gtk packaging, iirc there are several manpages missing | 08:28 |
| Laney | we should get this running --fail-missing | 08:30 |
| Laney | ricotz: I can merge your branch, bzr is up to date | 08:31 |
| ricotz | Laney, no bzr branch here yet, this just came into my mind, I stumbled over it while merging 3.14.13 | 08:32 |
| ricotz | Laney, I think the location of gtk-encode-symbolic-svg was weird too which should be in libgtk-3-bin | 08:34 |
| ricotz | sorry, g2g | 08:34 |
| seb128 | Laney, --fail-missing doesn't work well with multi-builds | 08:35 |
| Laney | seb128: just tried, the results seem sane here | 08:51 |
| Laney | shows that there are some .desktop files, icons and manpages missing | 08:51 |
| Laney | hikiko: Got it, somehow compiz got back into RequiredComponents in /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions/ubuntu.session | 08:52 |
| Laney | that is a bug | 08:52 |
| seb128 | Laney, is that standard debhelper or do we still have a custom hack script? | 08:52 |
| Laney | cdbs | 08:52 |
| Laney | but using the dh tools | 08:52 |
| Laney | I guess it understands --sourcedirectory or whatever, maybe didn't do that right in the past? | 08:53 |
| seb128 | so the debian/dh_listmissing.pl is deprecated? | 08:53 |
| Laney | man | 08:53 |
| Laney | I don't even know what that is | 08:53 |
| * Laney shows his youth | 08:53 | |
| seb128 | that's the script we used to have for --list-missing in gtk | 08:53 |
| seb128 | because the cdbs/dh tools didn't understand the multiple builddirs | 08:53 |
| Laney | ah | 08:53 |
| seb128 | e.G debian/build/shared debian/build/static | 08:54 |
| popey | is there any way to "reset" compiz back to defaults? | 08:54 |
| popey | (other than creating a new user or deleting all dot files) | 08:54 |
| seb128 | popey, there is a reset button in ccsm | 08:54 |
| popey | problem I have is my GUI freaks out when I add/remove a display. A new clean user doesn't have this problem. | 08:54 |
| Laney | it could be that if I fix these fail-missing files then it breaks later on | 08:54 |
| popey | oh! | 08:54 |
| seb128 | popey, "dconf reset -f /org/compiz" should work as well | 08:55 |
| Laney | this fails at the first dh_install call for the normal lib | 08:55 |
| * popey presses "reset to defaults" button | 08:55 | |
| popey | unity disappears. | 08:55 |
| Laney | will try after ricotz gives me his patch :-) | 08:55 |
| seb128 | Laney, k :-) | 08:55 |
| seb128 | let me know how it works! | 08:55 |
| Laney | ricotz: I want to keep that tool out of the main -bin package, it's not for normal users | 08:56 |
| Laney | not an "example" but didn't feel like making a new binary for it | 08:56 |
| popey | seb128: yeah, the dconf reset didn't fix it, will reboot and see if the reset to defaults did, thanks! | 08:56 |
| seb128 | popey, shouldn't need to reboot | 08:56 |
| popey | my unity died | 08:56 |
| Laney | hikiko: try removing that "compiz;" and see if it works for you? | 08:56 |
| popey | I'm unable to alt-tab anymore | 08:56 |
| seb128 | "great" | 08:56 |
| Laney | this is a darkxst bug btw! | 08:57 |
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| darkxst | Laney, what is a darkxst bug? | 08:57 |
| Laney | you changed RequiredComponents for ubuntu.session when updating gnome-session to 3.15 | 08:58 |
| Laney | 3.14 | 08:58 |
| * Laney tried to blame systemd at first | 08:59 | |
| Laney | annoyed that it wasn't that :P | 08:59 |
| popey | bah, not unity wont start at all :( | 08:59 |
| popey | *now | 08:59 |
| darkxst | Laney, did I? | 09:01 |
| popey | seb128: any other ideas for debugging unity not starting :( | 09:04 |
| seb128 | popey, type "unity" on a command line and see what is printed? | 09:04 |
| hikiko | Laney, what do you mean remove compiz? | 09:05 |
| Laney | darkxst: probably an accident, but the diff says so - curl -s https://launchpadlibrarian.net/188763536/gnome-session_3.9.90-0ubuntu16_3.14.0-2ubuntu1.diff.gz | zcat | filterdiff -i "*50_ubuntu*" | 09:05 |
| Laney | hikiko: e.g. sudo sed -i 's/compiz;//' /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions/ubuntu.session | 09:05 |
| popey | seb128: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10937467/ | 09:06 |
| seb128 | popey, "Loading plugin: ccp" | 09:07 |
| seb128 | popey, in ccsm change the settings backend to gsettings | 09:07 |
| seb128 | ups | 09:07 |
| seb128 | "Info: Backend : gsettings" | 09:07 |
| seb128 | hum | 09:07 |
| seb128 | popey, nothing more than that? | 09:07 |
| popey | thats everything | 09:07 |
| popey | display flickers and I end up with an empty desktop | 09:07 |
| seb128 | in unity enabled in ccsm? | 09:07 |
| popey | hah! no | 09:08 |
| seb128 | popey, "gsettings get org.compiz.core:/org/compiz/profiles/unity/plugins/core/ active-plugins" | 09:08 |
| popey | the reset must have disabled it | 09:08 |
| popey | just ticked the box and my launcher appears | 09:08 |
| * popey hugs seb128 | 09:08 | |
| * seb128 hugs popey back | 09:08 | |
| seb128 | weird, that plugin should be in the default | 09:08 |
| seb128 | popey, try to "gsettings reset org.compiz.core:/org/compiz/profiles/unity/plugins/core/ active-plugins" | 09:09 |
| popey | done | 09:09 |
| popey | hmm, no window decorations | 09:09 |
| popey | is /usr/bin/gtk-window-decorator the right thing for window decorator command? | 09:10 |
| darkxst | Laney, I see, really don't know how that could happen though, the merge would have been based off the vcs-bzr branch | 09:12 |
| popey | seb128: restarted lightdm, all back to normal. big hugs! Thank you! | 09:13 |
| seb128 | popey, yw! | 09:13 |
| ricotz | Laney, https://paste.debian.net/plain/169847 | 09:15 |
| Laney | why do you want that program in -bin? | 09:17 |
| Laney | this diff isn't based on the ppa or bzr | 09:18 |
| Laney | bleh | 09:18 |
| ricotz | Laney, I kind of consider this a dev tool and hiding it in example makes less sense | 09:18 |
| ricotz | Laney, the diff is based on bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gtk/ubuntugtk3/ | 09:18 |
| ricotz | Laney, so lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gtk/ubuntugtk3 isn't the current one for 3.16? | 09:20 |
| Laney | it is, lemme look in a bit, thanks | 09:21 |
| hikiko | Laney | 09:22 |
| hikiko | without compiz; | 09:22 |
| hikiko | lightdm restarts all the time | 09:22 |
| hikiko | mmm and with compiz it restarts once | 09:23 |
| hikiko | wait | 09:23 |
| hikiko | maybe there's something wrong in compiz | 09:23 |
| hikiko | ok it was not compiz I reinstalled it :s | 09:24 |
| hikiko | i ll replace the dconf user as well to have the default unity settings | 09:25 |
| hikiko | still | 09:26 |
| hikiko | Laney, didrocks for the record: reboot doesnt work when you have nfs entries in fstab just found out | 09:32 |
| didrocks | pitti: any idea? we have some tested together IIRC nfs entries in fstab successfully | 09:41 |
| pitti | hikiko: not known, works fine here; can you please file a bug with a journal, using the "debug shutdown problems" steps in /usr/share/doc/systemd/README.Debian? | 09:42 |
| willcooke | could it be that nfs it starting before the NIC is up? | 09:43 |
| willcooke | *is | 09:43 |
| hikiko | sure pitti :) | 09:43 |
| pitti | didrocks: yippie! (bug 1423811) | 09:53 |
| ubot5 | bug 1423811 in systemd (Ubuntu) "219-1ubuntu1 regression: boot hangs, logind fails" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1423811 | 09:53 |
| Laney | accidental fix? | 09:54 |
| pitti | Laney: seems so, about as accidental as it got broken in the first place :) | 09:56 |
| * pitti lets his computer cool down now, after some 500 VM reboots and 30 git builds | 09:56 | |
| didrocks | pitti: interesting | 10:00 |
| didrocks | again a proof that coverity can be useful :) | 10:01 |
| Laney | hikiko: did you file a bug for this --replace issue? | 10:03 |
| hikiko | no Laney | 10:05 |
| pitti | didrocks: yeah, and Murphy's law (the commit said "Should Not Fail™") | 10:05 |
| hikiko | Laney and pitti where should i file both bug reports? | 10:06 |
| Laney | hikiko: gnome-session for me please | 10:06 |
| * Laney will upload a SRU for this | 10:06 | |
| hikiko | ok Laney, thank you :) | 10:06 |
| Laney | an* | 10:06 |
| pitti | hikiko: nfs-utils for now, we can reassign as appropriate | 10:06 |
| pitti | hikiko: please tag it "systemd-boot" | 10:07 |
| didrocks | pitti: of course! I bet it's fsckd's fault :p | 10:07 |
| hikiko | ok! thanks! | 10:07 |
| pitti | didrocks: yes, it has its filthy fingers aaaaaaall the way to shutdown! | 10:08 |
| hikiko | Laney, | 10:08 |
| hikiko | gnome-session must be configured in order for Launchpad to forward bugs to the project's developers. | 10:08 |
| pitti | didrocks: and for sure it's also responsible for the world's hunger and raining next Saturday | 10:08 |
| Laney | hikiko: from a terminal run ubuntu-bug gnome-session | 10:09 |
| pitti | didrocks: speaking of which, seems we need to change this a last time to read from that new socket that s-fsck now writes to? | 10:09 |
| didrocks | pitti: I didn't follow what they changed upstream | 10:09 |
| hikiko | ha! Laney the package gnome-session is not installed... | 10:10 |
| hikiko | could that be the problem? | 10:10 |
| didrocks | I think we shouldn't do anything until next systemd release anyway | 10:10 |
| hikiko | it's not a unity dependency | 10:10 |
| Laney | hikiko: oh right, no, unity-session then | 10:11 |
| Laney | or ubuntu-session? | 10:11 |
| Laney | I forget the exact name | 10:11 |
| pitti | didrocks: right, but for v220 we need to port it | 10:11 |
| didrocks | yeah | 10:12 |
| hikiko | Laney, ubuntu-session maybe? | 10:13 |
| Laney | if that works, sure | 10:13 |
| ricotz | Sweet5hark, hi, is there a chance that 4.4.3.2 is hitting a ppa today? | 10:22 |
| Sweet5hark | ricotz: nope, will be a bit delayed | 10:23 |
| ricotz | Sweet5hark, alright, let me know when it happens | 10:23 |
| Sweet5hark | ricotz: willdo. | 10:24 |
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| hikiko | pitti, there's no package nfs-utils in my repos + here: https://launchpad.net/nfs-utils the report a bug link is disabled for me, could I report it somewhere else? | 11:33 |
| larsu | Laney: if you have a 14.04 vm around, can you please test the patch I just posted to bug #1448969? Resizing columns in nautilus' list view is impossibe if the horizontal scrollbar is visible (possible SRU) | 11:38 |
| ubot5 | bug 1448969 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "GTK3 can't resize treeviewcolumn" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1448969 | 11:38 |
| larsu | (bbiab) | 11:38 |
| pitti | hikiko: ah, it's ubuntu-bug nfs-common, sorry; nfs-utils is the source package | 12:00 |
| hikiko | ok :) | 12:00 |
| Laney | larsu: not sure, but I can get one easy enough, thanks! | 12:05 |
| larsu | Laney: cool thanks. Let me know if it works for you so that I can SRUify | 12:26 |
| hikiko | pitti, when i use ubuntu-bug nfs-common it's different than with other packages it doesn't ask me to fill the bug details etc it generates an automated bug report I think | 12:28 |
| pitti | hikiko: right, and it opens a LP page with the bug reporting, as usual | 12:28 |
| hikiko | no | 12:28 |
| hikiko | that's the weird | 12:28 |
| pitti | hikiko: it's pretty much like +filebug, except that it automatically attaches extra info | 12:29 |
| hikiko | yes pitti i used it a while ago for the other bug | 12:29 |
| hikiko | just in nfs-common | 12:29 |
| hikiko | it doesnt open that win | 12:29 |
| hikiko | and doesn't ask me to login | 12:29 |
| hikiko | I don't know why | 12:29 |
| pitti | hm, works here; it collects info for a few secs, then shows the collected data, I press "Send" and get directed to LP | 12:29 |
| hikiko | do i have to be root? I guess that's not the problem | 12:30 |
| pitti | hikiko: if anything else fails, you can also use https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+filebug, but it's really supposed to work with ubuntu-bug too | 12:30 |
| pitti | hikiko: no, you don't | 12:30 |
| hikiko | ok ok pitti it worked the 4th time just the page needs some time | 12:31 |
| hikiko | sorry :) | 12:31 |
| pitti | hikiko: right, it does | 12:31 |
| pitti | no worries :) | 12:32 |
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| xclaesse | seb128, upgraded to vivid today, (14.04->15.04 went fine with a simple dist-upgrade). Was still wondering what's the plan to integrate GtkHeaderBar with unity? | 14:07 |
| xclaesse | seb128, here is how I see gedit (build from source), same with devhelp (as packaged in vivid): http://people.collabora.com/~xclaesse/tmp/gedit.png | 14:07 |
| seb128 | xclaesse, we integrate them better now, like decorations are on the right side and looks like our theme, but it's only so much we can do | 14:08 |
| seb128 | not sure about the issue in your particular screenshot, larsu or Laney probably know about the gedit situation better | 14:09 |
| xclaesse | seb128, I guess it's impossible to move the GtkHeaderBar inside the unity panel like you guys do with the menu ? | 14:09 |
| seb128 | not really no | 14:09 |
| xclaesse | seb128, problem is that maximised we get 2 bars... | 14:09 |
| seb128 | yeah, that's the app design, talk to the gedit upstreams... | 14:09 |
| larsu | xclaesse: ya, this is the #1 reason we don't use header bars. I have a patch for gedit upstream that makes it use a traditional title bar | 14:16 |
| larsu | but it's a bit weird without a tool bar | 14:17 |
| xclaesse | larsu, seb128: sooner or later all GNOME apps are going to have the same thing | 14:17 |
| larsu | xclaesse: we know | 14:17 |
| xclaesse | IMO their design is ridiculous, but unity will have to deal with it I guess :( | 14:17 |
| larsu | their design is pretty good actually | 14:18 |
| larsu | it just doesn't fit well with unity | 14:18 |
| larsu | patch is at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=741904 if you're interested | 14:18 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 741904 in general "Finish up support for traditional menubar" [Enhancement,New] | 14:18 |
| seb128 | xclaesse, yeah, well as an user you can decide to user other apps that the GNOME ones ;-) | 14:20 |
| larsu | seb128: that's true, but we should strive for a good experience for the default apps | 14:21 |
| xclaesse | larsu, hm, I build gedit with the patch from bugzilla, didn't change anything. Probably did something wrong :/ | 14:23 |
| larsu | xclaesse: hm, weird. I wanted to update that patch a bit anyway. I'll have a look later today or tomorrow | 14:24 |
| seb128 | larsu, right, I'm just saying that there is only so much we can do if designs conflict | 14:24 |
| larsu | seb128: indeed | 14:25 |
| xclaesse | larsu, ah forget me, there were conflict when apply the patch that I didn't resolve :p | 14:25 |
| larsu | hehe :) | 14:25 |
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| qengho | Hi all. I'm trying to make chromium-browser do two new things. I would like your help in trying the new chromium packages in Stage PPA. ppa:canonical-chromium-builds/stage | 14:45 |
| qengho | Who's interested in yesterday's Cr release? New hot v42! Anyone? | 14:46 |
| willcooke | qengho, o/ (i'm on 14.04 still though) | 14:49 |
| qengho | willcooke: Oh, I have to support that too. It's in there. | 14:50 |
| willcooke | woot | 14:50 |
| willcooke | I'll add the PPA tomorrow morning then so I dont lose where I am today | 14:50 |
| kenvandine | willcooke, 14.04? you're so old school | 14:53 |
| willcooke | word | 14:53 |
| willcooke | I've got a dog food VM | 14:53 |
| * kenvandine waves to desktop :) | 14:53 | |
| willcooke | and I will update this machine, but I want a fresh install | 14:54 |
| willcooke | so, ya know, backups | 14:54 |
| kenvandine | :) | 14:54 |
| kenvandine | seb128, i copied code from unity-scope-click that should fix that bad framework bug, working on getting a build to test now | 14:54 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, hey, \o/ | 14:55 |
| kenvandine | more duplicated code... grrr | 14:55 |
| seb128 | yeah :-/ | 14:55 |
| kenvandine | the good news is there is a spec being worked on this week to fix that problem :) | 14:55 |
| seb128 | great | 14:55 |
| kenvandine | but in the mean time we need to keep the updates plugin working | 14:56 |
| seb128 | yeah | 14:56 |
| seb128 | dobey mentioned previously that we should use the scope service to install or something | 14:57 |
| seb128 | or the wrapper they have | 14:57 |
| seb128 | rather than manually deal with it | 14:57 |
| Laney | click got an API | 14:59 |
| xclaesse | outch, google map on firefox with ubuntu vivid is utra slow | 16:07 |
| xclaesse | with chrome it's perfect | 16:07 |
| Laney | larsu: I get a segfault in the testsuite with your backport | 16:21 |
| Laney | on 3.10 | 16:21 |
| seb128 | xclaesse, yeah, google streetview is un-usable in firefox for me for over a cycle, dunno why | 16:22 |
| seb128 | it takes like 30s to display one frame | 16:22 |
| seb128 | webgl or something not working there I guess? | 16:22 |
| xclaesse | seb128, it's not only street view, it's also panning the map | 16:23 |
| xclaesse | seb128, was working fine on 14.04 afaik | 16:23 |
| seb128 | well, maybe same issue | 16:23 |
| xclaesse | looks like unaccelerated webgl | 16:23 |
| seb128 | I'm sure maps requires a lot less rendering | 16:23 |
| seb128 | streetview is just the same issue pushed further | 16:24 |
| xclaesse | yeah | 16:24 |
| Laney | larsu: looks like b4282e5ef, trying that | 16:27 |
| larsu | Laney: thanks | 16:28 |
| * larsu didn't run it (sorry) | 16:28 | |
| Laney | that's what packagers are for | 16:28 |
| larsu | :) | 16:29 |
| davmor2 | seb128: it's the if "ua=firefox: run_speed=dead_slow" at the top of all google code right ;) | 16:30 |
| seb128 | right | 16:30 |
| Laney | looks good | 16:30 |
| * Laney builds it properly with this | 16:30 | |
| xclaesse | seb128, fishgl.com is ultra slow as well | 16:32 |
| xclaesse | seb128, on fedora with same firefox version, it works perfectly | 16:34 |
| seb128 | xclaesse, same version = binary from upstream, or same version but distro builds? | 16:35 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, is there any known issue with firefox/webgl on Ubuntu? | 16:35 |
| xclaesse | seb128, I mean the about dialog says "37.0.2" | 16:35 |
| xclaesse | distro rebuild it I guess | 16:36 |
| seb128 | xclaesse, what if you go in about:config and set webgl.force-enabled to true? | 16:37 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, no idea - about:support says it's blacklisted with my drivers | 16:37 |
| chrisccoulson | I'd ask upstream if I were the Firefox maintainer :) | 16:38 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, you still are the defacto one :-) | 16:38 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 16:38 |
| xclaesse | seb128, it's much better, but still slow | 16:39 |
| xclaesse | seb128, I get 25fps with the force-enabled | 16:39 |
| xclaesse | in chrome I get 60fps | 16:40 |
| seb128 | xclaesse, how about firefox on fedora? | 16:40 |
| seb128 | is that on the same box? | 16:40 |
| chrisccoulson | webgl has always been slow with Firefox because it's using a software compositor | 16:40 |
| xclaesse | it's on my collegue's laptop, will ask to test again when he has time | 16:40 |
| seb128 | k | 16:40 |
| chrisccoulson | which means it uses glReadPixels for webgl | 16:40 |
| seb128 | xclaesse, I assume you get the normal firefox speed now, chrome(ium) is probably just more performant | 16:41 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, thanks | 16:41 |
| chrisccoulson | our phone browser runs webgl better than firefox btw | 16:41 |
| seb128 | :-) | 16:41 |
| chrisccoulson | just thought I'd get that in there | 16:41 |
| seb128 | good to know! | 16:41 |
| seb128 | we should pay some free beer to whoever is working on that :p | 16:42 |
| chrisccoulson | Yeah, that's a good idea :) | 16:43 |
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