| MooDoo | morning all | 07:13 |
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| diplo | Morning all | 07:23 |
| SuperMat1 | morning | 07:27 |
| diplo | Not seen you about these parts for a while SuperMat1 | 07:29 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 07:33 |
| MooDoo | yay SuperMat1 must be all the rackers goodness he's been getting over the past few months | 07:48 |
| SuperMat1 | ??? | 07:48 |
| SuperMat1 | oh yes, I haven't been around much cos I'm very busy :( | 07:49 |
| === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi | ||
| === msm is now known as Guest1897 | ||
| davmor2 | Morning all | 08:10 |
| bashrc_ | tzag | 08:14 |
| popey | morning | 08:17 |
| foobarry | i ran out of RAM and my terminal fonts are corrupted at only one size | 08:21 |
| foobarry | ctrl- fixes it, but when i return to the regular size it's still broken! | 08:22 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy World Wish Day! :-D | 09:02 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1NeogMh1JI | 09:03 |
| JamesTait | davmor2, so... you wish you could buy me a coke? | 09:04 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: no I wish the world would just get along :D | 09:06 |
| zmoylan-pi | the world does get along, it's just the innocent bystanders that get caught up... | 09:07 |
| brobostigon | is there a way of pushing irssi highlights to my xmpp server? | 09:07 |
| diplo | http://cybione.org/~irssi-xmpp/ | 09:24 |
| diplo | ? | 09:24 |
| diplo | Doesn't seem to have been updated in a while though | 09:25 |
| zmoylan-pi | http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/apr/29/apple-ipad-fail-grounds-few-dozen-american-airline-flights | 09:25 |
| diplo | brobostigon: https://gist.github.com/markhibberd/5315470 | 09:25 |
| brobostigon | ty diplo | 09:26 |
| brobostigon | diplo: is that the same as the irssi-plugin-xmpp package? | 09:31 |
| diplo | I believe so, seems quite a few have forked it and made changes | 09:33 |
| brobostigon | ah, i see. | 09:33 |
| brobostigon | anyways, it seems to have loaded and connected to my xmpp server fine. | 09:34 |
| diplo | :) | 09:39 |
| brobostigon | :) | 09:42 |
| brobostigon | just need to find out now, if it works or not. | 09:42 |
| JamesTait | brobostigon, my XMPP address is on my launchpad profile, if you want to test. https://launchpad.net/~jamestait | 10:02 |
| brobostigon | ok, ty JamesTait. | 10:03 |
| brobostigon | that proved it didnt work, as your highlight didnt show up in my xmpp account. | 10:03 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| shauno | I think you still need to provide the glue? adding xmpp as a transport to irssi just lets you message jabber users | 10:08 |
| brobostigon | glue? ok. | 10:09 |
| shauno | so you're still missing the magic sauce that passes messages from one to the other | 10:09 |
| shauno | (I had a look, but I got nothing - I do this out-of-band, so irssi is passing messages off to a notification service) | 10:11 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 10:11 |
| diddledan | allo folks | 10:21 |
| brobostigon | i have found an xmpp notify script, however when i try and load it, it throws up errors. | 10:23 |
| diplo | popey uses something to alert via an android app from memory | 10:33 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| brobostigon | yes, on android i use irssinotifier. however this is for other systems that support xmpp, but not a notification system like irssinotifier. | 10:37 |
| foobarry | Amazon UK doubles the minimum spend for free delivery to £20 | 11:08 |
| foobarry | game over guys | 11:08 |
| directhex | ouya's in trouble. | 11:08 |
| popey | oh? | 11:10 |
| Myrtti | foobarry: damn. | 11:10 |
| foobarry | including the "this item is exclusive to prime customers" | 11:12 |
| bashrc_ | there is a minimum spend on amazon? | 11:13 |
| foobarry | for free delivs | 11:13 |
| diddledan | I thought prime gave you free next-day | 11:13 |
| foobarry | it does | 11:13 |
| foobarry | so it is now becoming a club | 11:14 |
| foobarry | that you have to join to buy stuf | 11:14 |
| bashrc_ | I did get some spam for prime, but I buy things on amazon maybe once or twice per year so it's not worth it | 11:15 |
| czajkowski | davmor2: popey on 15.04 does skype work ? | 11:15 |
| foobarry | b&q near me is rubbish and don't have stock | 11:15 |
| foobarry | i have no choice | 11:15 |
| * popey calls the skype lady | 11:16 | |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: no idea don't install skype | 11:16 |
| foobarry | welcome to skypecalltestingservice | 11:16 |
| czajkowski | popey: this determines my ability to upgrade :/ | 11:16 |
| bashrc_ | use mumble instead | 11:16 |
| * diddledan mutters something under his breath | 11:17 | |
| czajkowski | bashrc_: most of the people I need to talk to daily are via skype | 11:17 |
| diddledan | see there's a reason people tell you not to mumble :-p | 11:17 |
| czajkowski | I also use hipchat bluejeans and that evil system goto which doesn't work on Ubuntu or anything other than windows or mac | 11:17 |
| bashrc_ | mumble is pretty easy, and open source | 11:17 |
| czajkowski | bashrc_: indeed I agree but also not suitable for me | 11:18 |
| popey | mumble is not easier than skype if the other person already has skype | 11:18 |
| czajkowski | I can load skype with credit and ring places outside of the UK which also is a chunk of things I do daily | 11:18 |
| awilkins | Mumble is not easier than Skype even if the other person has neither | 11:18 |
| czajkowski | as popey points out it's also more hassle if everyone else I need to talk to doens't use mumble but does use skype | 11:18 |
| davmor2 | bashrc: these are real people she talks to not geeks, it's a job thing | 11:18 |
| awilkins | We use Zoom | 11:19 |
| awilkins | They just got around to having a Linux client | 11:19 |
| awilkins | It segfaults on my machine | 11:19 |
| awilkins | Easiest : WebRTC | 11:19 |
| bashrc_ | a mumble client was quite easy to install on android. I'm not sure about UbuntuPhones though | 11:19 |
| awilkins | e.g. http://talky.io | 11:19 |
| ali1234 | jitsi is easier than skype even if you already have skype | 11:19 |
| ali1234 | "go to this webpage" | 11:19 |
| awilkins | Is jitsi now WebRTC? | 11:19 |
| ali1234 | yes | 11:19 |
| popey | czajkowski: http://people.canonical.com/~alan/skypetest.mp3 | 11:19 |
| czajkowski | popey: brilliant thank you!!! | 11:20 |
| awilkins | Any webconferencing platform that doesn't use WebRTC is cruising on it's inertia | 11:20 |
| ali1234 | yep | 11:20 |
| czajkowski | goto is citrix and is EVIL! | 11:21 |
| czajkowski | so backward with it's requirments | 11:21 |
| awilkins | Goto have a WebRTC client now | 11:21 |
| czajkowski | awilkins: ohh | 11:21 |
| diddledan | jitsi now owned by atlassian? | 11:21 |
| czajkowski | I just dial in do tell me more | 11:21 |
| willcooke | Anyone got any thoughts on a cheap 3g data plan for USB dongles which will be used very rarely? | 11:21 |
| ali1234 | willcooke: three | 11:22 |
| willcooke | thx ali1234 | 11:22 |
| awilkins | WebEx works cross-platform but to get it to work properly on Linux you need to set up a special 32-bit environment for it | 11:22 |
| awilkins | WebEx is Java + native libs AFAICT | 11:22 |
| ali1234 | willcooke: cpecifically the "1 2 3" payg account | 11:22 |
| czajkowski | willcooke: sim only on 3 ? | 11:22 |
| awilkins | willcooke, GiffGaff with a non-recurring gigabag? | 11:23 |
| ali1234 | of course the problem with three is they have awful coverage | 11:23 |
| ali1234 | so it depends where you're going to use it | 11:23 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: giffgaff data buckets are kinda crappy, great for phones though. 3 probably gives you the largest data plan on pay as you go | 11:23 |
| davmor2 | awilkins: ^ | 11:23 |
| awilkins | davmor2, I only use the phone plans, and tether if I need data | 11:24 |
| awilkins | davmor2, As long as you're on a plan with a cap, tethering is totes allowed | 11:24 |
| davmor2 | awilkins: my point exactly it's great for phones. but the data only plans kinda suck | 11:24 |
| awilkins | If you're willing to switch your phone, it's a great plan for phone + occasional data access | 11:25 |
| awilkins | But I can't say about the data only plans because I've never needed to research them | 11:26 |
| awilkins | Re : ewbconf | 11:27 |
| awilkins | When someone successfully integrates WebRTC + Wave, game over | 11:27 |
| awilkins | WebRTC + Wave (with lots of different wavelet apps like mindmapping / document editing) | 11:27 |
| awilkins | The next step up from there is VR webconferencing with haptic interfaces editing 3D models in real time | 11:28 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| daubers | Just dropped into say, upgraded my machine to 15.04 and Unity is now pretty good to use. Thanks guys :) | 11:59 |
| daubers | Also, what's the MTA of choice these days? | 12:00 |
| * penguin42 still uses exim but hmm | 12:01 | |
| daubers | I've never used exim. I've used the one that I want to say is postgres but isn't and still starts with a p :) | 12:02 |
| penguin42 | yes, that one.... | 12:03 |
| daubers | postfix! | 12:03 |
| penguin42 | right | 12:03 |
| daubers | Sorry, I knew it was post<something> and I've been using too much postgres recently | 12:04 |
| penguin42 | bulbs are complicated; 12W LED bulbs seem to give about 1000 lumens out, and are listed as 75W equivalent, yet wikipedia lists 100W/230v as 1160 lumen, so you'd think it would be closer | 12:06 |
| foobarry | where are you buying the bulbs penguin42 | 12:15 |
| * penguin42 is googling a bit | 12:16 | |
| penguin42 | foobarry: CPC list 12W LED bulbs at ~1000 lumen | 12:16 |
| foobarry | amazon and ebay seem sto sell dodgy chinese stuff | 12:17 |
| foobarry | b&q are ££ | 12:17 |
| foobarry | not much in between | 12:17 |
| penguin42 | foobarry: I'm not really convinced that there are is any good stuff | 12:17 |
| foobarry | its so dreary and cold today i'm having soup :-| | 12:18 |
| intrbiz | bring back incandescent i say | 12:18 |
| diplo | Electrical Wholesalers! | 12:18 |
| penguin42 | intrbiz: Well, since I was woken at 7am (3 hours after I went to bed) by someone changing a compact-flourescent that had just expired at under 5 months old (and therefor <2000 hours use) - grrr | 12:19 |
| diplo | Just don't buy cheap, won't last | 12:19 |
| zmoylan-pi | incandescent never went away | 12:19 |
| diplo | Well we're not allowed to sell it zmoylan-pi | 12:19 |
| zmoylan-pi | i'm sure i saw some on shop shelf in last year somewhere. it suprised me | 12:19 |
| penguin42 | diplo: Oh, well, of course you can buy rough service bulbs, for those erm specialist applications | 12:19 |
| penguin42 | diplo: And oddly those seem to be available everywhere | 12:20 |
| diplo | Hadn't read about that, just reading an article on it :P | 12:21 |
| diplo | I used to work for Electrical Wholesalers, now work for a software company supplying software to electrical wholesalers :) | 12:22 |
| penguin42 | diplo: Ah, fun | 12:22 |
| penguin42 | diplo: So they can track the 25000 different SMD components that all look the same and can track the certifcates of compliance and things? | 12:23 |
| diplo | nah, we're the ERP side, selling over the counter.. sod getting into all that | 12:23 |
| diplo | :P | 12:23 |
| popey | Daughters lava lamp only works with incandescent lamps... hard to get ones that last | 12:24 |
| penguin42 | what makes over the counter for electrical wholesalers any different from any other over-the-counter? | 12:24 |
| foobarry | mine still works for 20 years | 12:24 |
| diplo | popey: What type of bulb is it ? I can take a look here if you like | 12:24 |
| diplo | They do LED ones that look identical to incandescent now as well | 12:25 |
| diplo | penguin42: Trade accounts and prices, specialist Three phase stuff | 12:25 |
| diplo | Not having to deal with cash people so much | 12:25 |
| * zmoylan-pi realised last night that if they switch off the fm radio stations here in favour of dab that my 30yo fm radio will be obsolete... | 12:25 | |
| popey | LED is no good | 12:25 |
| popey | they don't get hot enough to make the lava melt | 12:25 |
| penguin42 | diplo: ah yeh | 12:25 |
| penguin42 | popey: Do you often have problems with lava? | 12:26 |
| diplo | True, never had a lava lamp, wasn't sure if the bulb just worked to light it up and an element did the softening | 12:26 |
| zmoylan-pi | well apart from the guy with lava lamp who won a darwin award | 12:26 |
| diplo | Well if you have a make and model of the bulb I can see what if you like | 12:26 |
| diplo | anyhoo off to get a sandwich | 12:27 |
| popey | no, it needs to be hot | 12:27 |
| popey | to make the wax lava melt | 12:27 |
| popey | looks like mathmos themselves sell them | 12:27 |
| popey | http://www.mathmos.com/E14-SES-Screw-fitting.html | 12:27 |
| foobarry | can you get IR bulbs | 12:27 |
| foobarry | http://www.lightbulbs-direct.com/golfball-40w-ses-clear/p1075/ | 12:29 |
| foobarry | i think only banned for 60w and over? | 12:29 |
| foobarry | or did i make that uip | 12:29 |
| ali1234 | get a 1000W LED floodlight | 12:35 |
| ali1234 | not only will it be hot enough to melt the wax, it will also blind anyone in the immediate vicinity :) | 12:36 |
| diddledan | ali1234: +1 | 12:37 |
| foobarry | aterry: http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/apple-watch-tattoos-could-break-key-smartwatch-functions-10211777.html | 12:38 |
| foobarry | woops | 12:39 |
| zmoylan-pi | those poor hipsters... | 12:42 |
| daftykin1 | XD | 12:44 |
| daftykin1 | how *will* they cope? | 12:44 |
| daftykin1 | ah neat, my das keyboard is dropping O's again today | 12:45 |
| awilkins | Those Cherry switches aren't infinite in lifetime, are they | 12:47 |
| zmoylan-pi | version 2 of the apple watch will have a laser to drill for skin... | 12:48 |
| awilkins | I have a G80-3000 (Cherry assembled keyboard) and some of the switches need "warming up" some days | 12:48 |
| zmoylan-pi | you may experience some pain for the first few days of wearing version 2 :-P | 12:48 |
| daftykin1 | well i don't think this is that old | 12:49 |
| daftykin1 | typically after a warm up it plays nicely | 12:49 |
| zmoylan-pi | is the keyboard clean? | 12:49 |
| daftykin1 | yeah i've stripped and cleaned it before to no avail | 12:50 |
| daftykin1 | now my scroll wheel is starting to go up when i roll down :< | 12:54 |
| daftykin1 | there's a war on my desk, my input devices hate me | 12:54 |
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
| zmoylan-pi | your mouse... it's coming right at you!! ::blasts it with nerf:: | 12:58 |
| daftykin1 | i shall feed it to the cat | 13:00 |
| === daftykin1 is now known as daftykins | ||
| daftykins | amazing i didn't even see my nick | 13:10 |
| diplo | foobarry: Asking me if I can get IR bulbs? If so yeah afaik, used to be able to | 13:40 |
| diplo | Also it was 100's then 60's and now all are banned | 13:40 |
| Flashtek | Q: with a 14.04 install, is it possible/sane to use dns-nameserver entries in the interfaces file ? | 13:51 |
| diplo | popey: 40watt about £1.60 + vat from one of our suppliers | 13:51 |
| daftykins | Flashtek: dnsmasq might fight you i would expect | 13:53 |
| daftykins | best to purge resolvconf then hardcode into /etc/resolv.conf | 13:53 |
| Flashtek | dnsmasq not installed | 13:54 |
| daftykins | i don't know much about it so can't even tell you if that's the package | 13:54 |
| Flashtek | kk | 13:56 |
| popey | diplo: proper lamps? | 13:57 |
| === ujjain- is now known as ujjain | ||
| diplo | yeah, Osram ones I believe | 13:58 |
| diplo | They are halogen bulbs it appears | 13:58 |
| diplo | Par16/40w ses | 13:58 |
| diplo | if you do a search for that on google you find some cheaper prices than the link you sent | 14:00 |
| diplo | http://www.oceanlighting.co.uk/light-bulbs-c111/reflector-spots-light-bulbs-c167/bell-bell-05042-40w-clear-r50-par-16-reflector-spot-ses-e14-bulb-p16874/s16875?gclid=Cj0KEQjwgoKqBRDt_IfLr8y1iMUBEiQA8Ua7XX8PFeclc7mXQgfQEbVXePFDQffJJnRIGdSy-Lm4lDYaAmyy8P8HAQ | 14:01 |
| diplo | Like that | 14:01 |
| diplo | https://www.easy-lightbulbs.com/light-bulbs/halogen-lighting/par-halogen-reflector-bulbs/screw-in-14mm-diameter/p1640fl-ses-ca/?gclid=Cj0KEQjwgoKqBRDt_IfLr8y1iMUBEiQA8Ua7XbDTAylXASgp_5PIvDHUc82oHFJsf5DfIPwDGEWvwvoaArCS8P8HAQ | 14:01 |
| diplo | Or that | 14:01 |
| Flashtek | does anyone else know if the dns setting within /etc/network/interfaces is valid ? | 14:03 |
| daftykins | just do what i mentioned and life will be fine | 14:03 |
| Flashtek | daftykins: if it were down to me, that's how it'd be done... however I need conclusive proof that it doesn't work as expected | 14:04 |
| Flashtek | i'm fairly sure it's a depricated feature | 14:04 |
| daftykins | why must you configure these things via the interfaces file? | 14:04 |
| daftykins | the word is deprecated - depreciate means to drop in value :> | 14:05 |
| Flashtek | daftykins: it's part of a salstack controlled environment | 14:05 |
| daftykins | which way around is deprecated? | 14:05 |
| daftykins | that means nothing to me | 14:05 |
| Flashtek | dropped feature | 14:05 |
| daftykins | no i'm asking which approach you consider to be deprecated? | 14:06 |
| Flashtek | nameservers in interfaces file | 14:06 |
| daftykins | not sure on that, i just don't do it that way | 14:06 |
| daftykins | modern versions are a bit too automagic, so i purge the package resolvconf and set manual config | 14:07 |
| daftykins | you can probably do it via interfaces as well as hardcoding /etc/resolv.conf direct - just bear in mind that one reboot after purging /etc/resolv.conf will likely still overwrite that file, only subsequent reboots will it persist | 14:07 |
| Flashtek | we have mixed installs where some of the systems are DHCP | 14:07 |
| Flashtek | and a handful are statis | 14:08 |
| Flashtek | *static | 14:08 |
| daftykins | for servers!? | 14:08 |
| Flashtek | depends on how you define 'server' | 14:09 |
| daftykins | computer running a service accessed from elsewhere | 14:09 |
| Flashtek | yes then | 14:10 |
| Flashtek | sshd | 14:10 |
| daftykins | seems unreliable | 14:10 |
| daftykins | Flashtek: anywho this might help, it explains some of what changed since 12.04 time - https://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/ | 14:11 |
| Flashtek | thanks daftykins | 14:11 |
| daftykins | np :) | 14:11 |
| Flashtek | seems that the dns-nameservers entry in interfaces is not documented anywhere handy... aside from stating "needs resolvconf" | 14:19 |
| daftykins | hah | 14:22 |
| daftykins | assuming this host is never going to move environment, i'd prefer hardcoded myself | 14:22 |
| penguin42 | daftykins: If you're setting up static then just take networkmanager out and put the dns server in /etc/resolv.conf ? | 14:23 |
| daftykins | NM wouldn't be there if this were a server? (this is the approach i'm coming from) | 14:24 |
| penguin42 | daftykins: Right | 14:24 |
| daftykins | also resolvconf handles resolv.conf as above due to automagic evils | 14:24 |
| penguin42 | right, but you can knock it all back to be simple | 14:24 |
| daftykins | i guess i never asked if it were desktop or server | 14:25 |
| diddledan | techy, but some might moan at me for mentioning: ms build is about to start in 15 minutes (http://channel9.msdn.com/) be interesting to see what they say about 'dows10 | 15:15 |
| diddledan | in other news, I'm 32 and my beard is already turning grey. I'm not only a neckbeard, but a greybeard too! | 15:16 |
| diddledan | not as bad as my dad tho - his is completely white now | 15:17 |
| penguin42 | diddledan: Ah, distinguished | 15:17 |
| diddledan | :-) | 15:17 |
| diddledan | I'm sporting a pretty decent nerdy-tail with my hair these days, too | 15:18 |
| * bashrc_ is amused to find a command called "lunch" | 15:18 | |
| diddledan | bashrc: you're doing android or related dev :-p | 15:18 |
| diddledan | there's also brunch | 15:19 |
| bashrc_ | but is there a teatime? | 15:19 |
| diddledan | or is it breakfast? | 15:19 |
| bashrc_ | dinner? | 15:19 |
| diddledan | alas, no | 15:19 |
| diddledan | android and ubuphone's build process is a bit black-art to me | 15:20 |
| diddledan | but then build processes in general confuse me | 15:21 |
| diddledan | autotools is a mystery | 15:21 |
| diddledan | cmake even more so | 15:21 |
| foobarry | mmm camke | 15:22 |
| foobarry | cake | 15:22 |
| diddledan | foobarry: get yourself invited onto the podcast - they always seem to have cake | 15:22 |
| diddledan | wow, when did they go up? I've missed three episodes of it | 15:24 |
| foobarry | i've misssed the past 3 years | 15:24 |
| popey | diddledan: build process for phone itself or apps on the phone? | 15:24 |
| foobarry | somehow got out of the habit | 15:24 |
| diddledan | popey: is the naming scheme beers? | 15:24 |
| popey | no | 15:24 |
| diddledan | popey: the build process for the actual phone - the androidy bits specifically | 15:25 |
| popey | yeah, no idea how that works | 15:25 |
| diddledan | damn | 15:25 |
| diddledan | I will figure out this naming scheme! | 15:25 |
| popey | it's a fun one :) | 15:26 |
| diddledan | has anyone guessed yet? | 15:26 |
| popey | not that anyone has told me | 15:26 |
| diddledan | ok | 15:26 |
| diddledan | I'm still in the running then :-p | 15:27 |
| diddledan | there is a prize, right? :-D | 15:27 |
| diddledan | teehee | 15:27 |
| diddledan | we all know we want "more quizzes" | 15:27 |
| bashrc_ | cmake is a riddle inside of an enigma | 15:27 |
| popey | heh | 15:27 |
| diddledan | bashrc_: you need a bombe to crack the outer enigma | 15:28 |
| popey | we use cmake for many of the apps on the phone | 15:28 |
| bashrc_ | :) | 15:28 |
| diddledan | yeah cmake started as a qt or kde thing so it makes sense to use it extensively for apps considering they're mostly qt-based | 15:28 |
| ali1234 | cmake is nice | 15:28 |
| ali1234 | diddledan: aren't you thinking of qmake? | 15:29 |
| diddledan | oh maybe I am | 15:29 |
| diddledan | damn you memory-cells! | 15:29 |
| ali1234 | i don't think they are related, i could be wrong though | 15:29 |
| ujjain | greetings | 15:41 |
| ujjain | http://getworkdonemusic.com/# can somebody check if the play button on this site works? | 15:41 |
| ujjain | I've been repetititevely been pressing it for 2 minutes | 15:41 |
| ujjain | maybe it's a metaphor: "don't listen to music, get work done" | 15:42 |
| daftykins | :D pretty good idea. sorry don't trust such sites. | 15:44 |
| popey | doesn't work here in chrome on ubuntu | 15:45 |
| ujjain | it was in my firefox bookmarks | 15:46 |
| ujjain | from 3 years ago | 15:46 |
| ujjain | I guess soundcloud integration broke | 15:46 |
| ujjain | cleaning up bookmarks, I think I'm one of the few these days that still uses bookmarks | 15:46 |
| daftykins | :D anything i bookmark i never look at again | 15:47 |
| daftykins | i browse by manually entering URLs, but age is making the ol' memory suffer | 15:47 |
| shauno | I bookmark things to force them to show up in the guesses when the omnibox tries to read my mind | 15:48 |
| popey | same here | 15:49 |
| daftykins | :D | 15:50 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| Flashtek | ujjain: click fast, or faster | 16:04 |
| awilkins | ujjain, There's a codec thing you need for it to work | 16:09 |
| ujjain | hmm ok | 16:14 |
| ujjain | it does work now :p | 16:14 |
| ujjain | I like this song | 16:14 |
| ujjain | boom boom boom boom | 16:15 |
| ujjain | boom boom | 16:15 |
| === Hornet- is now known as Hornet | ||
| popey | http://techcrunch.com/2015/04/29/microsoft-shocks-the-world-with-visual-studio-code-a-free-code-editor-for-os-x-linux-and-windows/ | 16:54 |
| zmoylan-pi | microsoft is not a friend of open source | 16:55 |
| popey | historically... | 16:56 |
| zmoylan-pi | the patent trolling on android now remains | 16:56 |
| penguin42 | zmoylan-pi: Yes, you check the licenses on their c# stuff and find it doesn't grant patents except for use in c# systems, so if you pick up their code that's free in it and use it elsewhere you're in a world of pain | 16:57 |
| penguin42 | zmoylan-pi: Free to use from copyright point of view, but not patent | 16:58 |
| zmoylan-pi | i've seen their behaviour since the 80s. i'll never trust them | 16:58 |
| penguin42 | nod | 16:58 |
| shauno | still interesting to see a new CEO make some new moves though | 16:59 |
| zmoylan-pi | i keep meaning to put up a list of companies screwed over by ms. but it's such a huge list... | 17:00 |
| bashrc_ | penguin42: I think MS still has a "patent promise" which is legally worthless | 17:02 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD | ||
| === awilkins_ is now known as awilkins | ||
| awilkins | MS totally copying the "Ubuntu phone is your PC" thing then | 18:06 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| zmoylan-pi | with things like the pi about the day when you can build your own mobile device to your own spec and capabilities is getting ever closer | 18:20 |
| penguin42 | zmoylan-pi: It's difficult - a lot of getting the device small, thin, light etc is squashing what you want into the case, and small changes are hard - the modular things from Google kind of look interesting, but still look a bit thick | 18:24 |
| * zmoylan-pi remembers the psion ii. and how the ones we had at work lasted long into the wince/pocket pc era as they were just so useful. | 18:25 | |
| * penguin42 had the 3a - well, the Acorn version of it | 18:25 | |
| daftykins | 3c here :O still lurking somewhere | 18:25 |
| daftykins | i think it was relegated to crossword duty for the old girl | 18:26 |
| zmoylan-pi | and also how every one i knew who used a psion ii had a story of driving over it with a land rover for some reason, usually accidental... | 18:26 |
| * penguin42 wonders if material science could build one of those with a decent hinge now | 18:26 | |
| daftykins | haha they really did creak didn't they? | 18:26 |
| penguin42 | mine has a hinge broken after a few years of use | 18:26 |
| zmoylan-pi | they creaked, they squeaked but land rovers never killed one of them... | 18:26 |
| penguin42 | you ran over a psion in a land rover? | 18:27 |
| daftykins | zmoylan-pi: are you secretly part of a land rovers anonymous club? | 18:27 |
| zmoylan-pi | it just seems that every time i met someone with a psion ii they had driven over accidently with their land rover. and it always seemed to be a land rover. no minis... about 4-5 seperate stories from different people. | 18:28 |
| zmoylan-pi | usually they had put the psion ii on the roof of car to open door and then forgot it which was 2-3 of the stories | 18:28 |
| zmoylan-pi | and then when realising and driving back they dinged it the second time | 18:28 |
| * DJones hands daftykins Some diet pills | 19:14 | |
| daftykins | ;) | 19:15 |
| davmor2 | popey: with have the winner for the W release Worrisome Worms with the catchline "Incoming" | 19:39 |
| popey | lies | 19:39 |
| davmor2 | popey: you can't tell me you don't want this as the next backdrop http://ih0.redbubble.net/image.13839012.8439/fc,550x550,white.u1.jpg | 19:42 |
| davmor2 | popey: obvious with the origami backdrop ;) | 19:43 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| daftykins | hey diddledan did you hear the news? | 21:03 |
| daftykins | the Microsoft Edge browser, now with mspaint integration - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH1D31YHsgY | 21:03 |
| daftykins | perhaps that's what Spartan is | 21:04 |
| diddledan | yeah I'm watching the keynote now | 21:04 |
| diddledan | project spartan is now known as "Microsoft Edge" | 21:04 |
| daftykins | have you a linky? | 21:04 |
| diddledan | it was earlier, I'm watching the video I cached from channel9.msdn.com | 21:05 |
| daftykins | ah | 21:05 |
| daftykins | me too now \o/ ty | 21:06 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
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