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pandarkhi00:24
pandarksomone can explein me why plasma5 is full of bugs ?00:25
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juan__hi00:38
VTREIShi00:38
sithlord48DANtheBEASTman: any reason to not upgrade to 15.04?00:44
yzmhello00:49
yzm1100:50
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juan__anyone knows how to recover "open console here" option in dolphin?00:51
juan__i'm using Kubuntu 15.0400:51
sithlord48juan__:  press F4?00:51
juan__:O!!!!00:52
juan__thanks :D00:52
sithlord48most filebrowsers on linux have a similar option usually F400:53
pandarkit's possible to use different desktop for eather multidesktop ?00:54
pandarkin plasma500:54
pandarkkubuntu 15.0400:54
sithlord48pandark:  that i don't know i just span my desktop to both my monitors00:54
pandarkthis option is in kde500:56
sithlord48and juan__ to answer your question that was most likley a service menu . you can get more services menus from within dolphin  settings->configure dolphin -> services -> download new services00:56
pandarknot in kde500:56
yzm请问升级15.04之后会不会出现现有的有线网卡无法驱动的问题?00:56
sithlord48sorry yzm i don't speak that language00:56
pandarkgo google translate00:57
sithlord48pandark:  its posible taht it has not been added in kde500:57
pandarkok sithlord4800:57
sithlord48where was that option in kde4?00:57
juan__thank you sithlord48 :D00:57
sithlord48juan__:  you are welcome00:57
cyclickI upgraded to 15.04 and my shorcuts in the bottom panel along with my keyboard languages disappeared.... is that a bug?00:57
pandarki dont remember00:57
pandarkin desktop behevior probaly00:57
sithlord48cyclick:  no kde5 has a different config files  then kde400:58
sithlord48cyclick:  you will most likley have to reconfigure your plasma and some other kde releated parts.00:59
cyclickok thanks sithlord48, do you happen to know how I can re-add my keyboard languages next to the systray? I can't find it01:00
sithlord48cyclick:  system settings _> input Devices -> keyboard -> Layouts?01:01
sithlord48cyclick:  you might also have to add a widget maybe not ported to plasma5 yet . or it could just show up in systray area01:02
cyclickgot it, thanks sithlord4801:03
sithlord48pandark:  i think this setting was in the Workspaces part of Desktop Behavior? you maybe want to ask in #kde-dev if that is supported in plasma501:03
sithlord48cyclick:  you welcome01:03
pandarkok thank you sithlord4801:05
yzm15.04 Ethernet card driver can not compatible with Qualcomm Atheros AR8132 Fast Ethernet?01:05
cyclickI wonder why the konsole icon in the taskbar is now gray instead of black, that does not make much sense01:06
sithlord48cyclick:  new icon theme you can change that back to oxygen iirc01:06
cyclicksithlord48: great, I didn't remember that a theme changed app icons too, thanks01:08
sithlord48yzm:  that should work you need the driver alx  (quick searching online)01:09
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gunndawgAre there any 3rd party VOIP programs that can utilize your skype login and contacts? I cant seem to figure out how to adjust the font size on the Kubuntu version of Skype01:34
Etriaphgunndawg: Skype is Skype, you should contact them about how to get it done.01:35
gunndawgEtriaph: I doubt they're going to take time for that. Figured it was a good enough question for here01:35
gunndawgFacebook is Facebook, MSN is MSN, ICQ is ICQ but Pidgin still did a 3rd party program to allow you to access all your contacts within those programs. I figured maybe there was a 3rd party Skype that does the same thing01:36
Dragnslcrgunndawg: Kopete has an option to add a Skype account, but I've never used it for Skype, so I can't say how well it works.01:39
EtriaphWhen I said Skype was Skype, you need to understand that Kubuntu has no way to affect the quality, configurability or distribution of that software.  Skype can help you if you email them about it I'm sure.  They release a version for Linux, I'm assuming they're supporting it too.01:39
gunndawgDragnslcr: I'll take a look. Thanks!01:39
gunndawgEtriaph: Understood. Thank you.01:40
Etriaphsithlord48: What was the question you had?01:41
sithlord48Etriaph:  where can i put my splash screen for plasma5? used to be ~/.kde/share/apps/ksplash/themes or something like that01:42
EtriaphOh, well, is it built for plasma 5?01:43
sithlord48Etriaph:  its QML splash01:43
Etriaphsithlord48: Let me do some digging.01:43
Etriaphsithlord48: Please hold.01:43
sithlord48Etriaph:  cool thanks01:43
blubberboppandark: I know the feeling, at kubuntu 10.xx I could install alphas and it would work reasonably stable, ever since 14.04, if I install the final release version, I'm already happy when my machine boots up01:50
blubberboppandark: I think the best option is to not install the latest version until like at least one month after the release when all the major bugs are fixed01:50
blubberboppandark: and don't do upgrade01:50
blubberbopAnybody who knows how I can restart the plasma desktop? It crashed, I see no plasma objects, just the desktop background and the windows... In kde4 I could run plasma-desktop and it would restart, but how in kde5?01:51
Etriaphsithlord48: Look in /usr/share/ksplash/Themes/01:51
Etriaphsithlord48: My 15.04 setup has three themes in there, QML themes.01:52
sithlord48Etriaph: those are kde401:53
sithlord48i don't see any of them in my system settings nor do i see the breeze one in that directory..01:53
EtriaphHmm.01:54
sithlord48Etriaph:  i think i have answered my own question01:54
EtriaphOh?01:54
sithlord48/usr/share/plasma/look-and-feel/01:54
sithlord48seams i need to make a desktop theme.01:55
EtriaphOh, it's tied to the plasma theme?01:56
EtriaphThat makes sense, though, wrt continuity.01:56
sithlord48i guess its an over all one system settings -> workspace theme -> look and feel01:57
EtriaphYou could probably default the workspace theme to another.01:57
EtriaphWith a symbolic link or something.01:57
sithlord48that is ok i can just copy it and see if i can get it working correctly01:58
EtriaphOr make a brand new desktop theme and put it on kde-look :D01:58
sithlord48i would but the one i plan to make has images of a non free nature01:58
valoriepandark: I upgraded to the beta, and have had a great experience02:00
valorieof course there are bugs; that's why "beta"02:01
valorieand I reported them, and most are fixed now02:01
valorie"blubberbop" was talking nonsense02:01
sithlord48what beta software can have bugs.. ????!!02:02
valorieheh02:02
sithlord48i guess if you don't know about how software is developed maybe?02:03
valorieI'm not asserting that the release was bug-free02:03
sithlord48what release is?02:03
valorieonly that I've had a good experience02:03
valorie14.04 was so good it was boring02:03
gunndawgvalorie: I went back to 14.0402:03
sithlord48seams every time i release i find something new lol02:04
gunndawgvalorie: I was having Plasma crash at least twice an hour, randomly not even booting at all (just a black screen), etc, etc. Got tired of it, went back to 14.0402:04
valoriefor those who prefer Plasma 4, or need a lot of stability, that's why we have LTS02:04
valorieand it's supported for 5 years02:04
valoriegunndawg: are you using nvidia?02:05
gunndawgvalorie: Yes02:05
EtriaphI've had nothing but a good experience so far.  The one bug that's been in dolphin for a while is still getting me down, but other than that.02:05
sithlord48yeah ms.sith made me put 14.04 back on her laptop.. it was laggy02:05
valorieseems like most of the problems reported come down to nvidia02:05
gunndawgvalorie: Then I suppose I fell under that same umbrella then. I'll give it time and try it again. For now 14.04 runs like a dream02:05
sithlord48i have had good results on my other machines. they are all amd. hers in intel gpu02:06
valorieit is a pity dolphin isn't ported yet, I agree02:06
EtriaphI have an Nvidia 750 GTX, no issues.02:06
sithlord48yeah dolphin is gonna be very nice when it makes it to KF502:06
Etriaphvalorie: Still can't save a place!  :(02:06
valoriethe next applications release will probably fix that02:06
* Etriaph eagerly awaits it.02:06
valorieI do miss that feature, yes02:06
gunndawgEtriaph: I'm running an Nvidia 760GTX and like I said sometimes I would boot and only a black screen and cursor, nothing else. Othertimes plasma would just crash, flash the screen and get the bug splat prompt. Once in a while would be fine, but this was happening hourly02:06
valorieI've not checked the bug reports about that though02:07
valoriehave you, Etriaph?02:07
Etriaphvalorie: It's a low-priority but in launchpad.02:07
valoriegunndawg: that sounds grim02:07
Etriaphs/but/bug02:07
EtriaphAnd it's confirmed and outstanding02:07
EtriaphBut Dolphin in this release is still KDE402:07
valoriewell, I would check bko - it isn't a Kubuntu problem02:07
valorieit is a KDE problem02:07
EtriaphI'm assuming it's affecting those running Plasma 4 still02:07
gunndawgvalorie: No big deal. I'm happy on 14.04 for the moment and will give 15.04 time to mature and try it again :)02:07
valorieright02:08
valoriewe have lots of time before the next LTS to polish, polish, polish02:08
gunndawgindeed02:08
valoriehelp is always welcome02:08
sithlord48i have a strange problem with gwenview right now.. when i open an image it opens but the title bar for gwen view spans the entire screen02:08
gunndawgvalorie: infact if this clues you into anything. One thing that would crash plama is simply dragging a program icon to the panel menu to create a shortcut. 100% of the time, bug splat02:09
Etriaphvalorie: Let me see if bko has a bug for this.02:09
valoriesithlord48: unfortunately I do not see a gwenview chan, so you might check in #kde-devel02:09
valoriewhen the europeans are awake02:10
valoriegunndawg: that isn't supported in Plasma 502:10
gunndawgvalorie: define "supported" because the icons would show up in the panel, only after plasma5 crashed first02:11
valorieit's sort of hard to figure out, but you right-click on the icon/tab in the panel, and say "use launcher" or some such02:11
gunndawgso drag icon to panel, let Plasma5 crash, once its back up, icon is there as intended02:11
valorielol02:11
valoriebizarre02:11
valorieit never crashes with the right-click method02:12
valoriebut it took me awhile to figure it out02:12
gunndawgvalorie: I was never aware of a right-click method. I'll try it once I am brave enough to try 15.04 again02:12
valoriegunndawg: I think it's new02:12
valorieI've not seen it before either02:12
gunndawgvalorie: fair enough02:12
EtriaphOh, I guess that's never been logged on bko.02:14
EtriaphDoing that now.02:14
pandarkok thanks valorie  blubber02:14
valorieEtriaph: be sure to link your report to the launchpad one02:14
valoriebizarre that it's not on bko02:15
valoriepandark: when you do run across bugs, *please* report them02:16
valoriewe rely on our faithful users to contribute that way02:16
gunndawgvalorie: as I brought up before. I'd be happy to report bugs but too often its not a bug but my own misunderstanding, heh02:17
valoriewell, that's why it's good to chew them over in here02:17
gunndawgas I do :)02:17
valorieor even in #kubuntu-devel, if they are tricky02:18
valoriesometimes hard to know what packagename to file them against02:18
sithlord48cool it worked :D02:22
Etriaphhttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34692802:23
ubottuKDE bug 346928 in panels: places "New Places Not Saved" [Major,Unconfirmed]02:23
EtriaphSeem simple enough as a bug description?02:23
Etriaphbbiab02:28
valorieEtriaph: I will test, and confirm there02:29
valoriethank you02:29
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Etriaphnp02:40
MobileRoeyhi!!02:41
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MobileRoeyHi03:15
MobileRoeywith SDDM ,03:15
MobileRoey I get this screen that lets me specify the environment (KDE, XFCE ,FVWM, etc.) but there's no username/password field03:16
MobileRoeyHow do I resolve this?03:16
EtriaphThe user list is visual03:17
EtriaphYou should be able to click the user you want to login as.03:17
EtriaphOh, not online.03:17
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thelionroarsWallet problems after upgrade to 15.04 :( I can open the wallet so I know I am using the correct password, but I keep getting an error 'possible incorrect password' when trying to use the wizard to transfer to the new plasma version. I had no problems at all using the wizard on updating my other device. If anyone can suggest a solution please feel free to highlight me. Cheers06:21
stdin[]Hallo, does anyone know of a way to toggle font anti aliasing without opening systemsettings again and again06:24
stdin[]where's that config stored? could make a little script to toggle the value06:26
N3X15thelionroars, there are lots of issues with 15.04.  You're best off just filing a bug report.06:33
thelionroarsok. In the meantime I'll see if I can recover the passwords from the wallet manually using the interface06:34
N3X15Make a backup, just in case.06:35
thelionroarsgood thinking 9906:38
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alvinSo, the systray issues. Will they be resolved, or do we report each appliation separately? (In this case I start several applications automatically at login. KeepassX, owncloud-client and quasselclient. All aplications are set to start minimized. None do since the update to plasma5. Bug in plasma5 or in every separate application?)07:20
N3X15alvin, likely the former.  File a bug report.07:20
N3X15I know KeePass, for one, uses GTK, and it's probably the GTK support in KDE screwing up07:21
alvinN3X15: No, it's KeePassX. Doesn't it use Qt?07:23
alvinyes, depends libqtcore407:24
N3X15Ah, I use KeePass2.07:24
alvinI'm waiting patiently for KeePassX 2.0 :-)07:25
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lordievaderGood morning.07:41
hyper_chlordievader: looks like it... sun is coming out07:44
keithzgWell damn, that's annoying. Upgraded one of my desktops to 15.04, now I no longer have VTs. But systemctl --failed claims nothing's gone wrong, so I'm at a bit of a loss.07:46
hyper_chVTs?07:48
lordievaderVirtual Terminal, TTY ;)07:49
hyper_chyou mean like ctrl-shift-F2?07:50
keithzgmore like ctrl-alt-F#, but yeah07:50
hyper_chworks fine07:51
hyper_chwell, F7 will take you to teh normal gui07:51
keithzgWell I wasn't expecting it was *universal*, hell they still work on my laptop also running 15.04.07:51
keithzgBut ctl+alt+F1 through F6 all just gets to a blank screen for me now on my desktop.07:51
* hyper_ch thinks you're doing it wrong07:52
keithzgheh07:52
hyper_chtried rebooting after upgrading?07:52
hyper_chalso, my annoying bug list for 15.04 has grown to 15 meanwhile07:53
keithzgI've rebooted more than once at this point, in part because of this, in part because I installed fglrx-update because the standard fglrx was now getting *really* bad performance in The Talos Principle compared to 14.10.07:53
hyper_chI don't even know what gflrx is good for07:53
keithzgfglrx is the AMD proprietary drivers.07:53
keithzgSo, good for gaming if you have a modern AMD graphics card, is what it's good for.07:54
hyper_chah.... haven't used AMD for a long time07:54
keithzgI strongly suspect the problem is, or is at least involved with, systemd07:56
alvinblank screen on TTY's? Wouldn't that be missing KMS support?07:56
keithzgsince VTs are now spawned on-demand when running under systemd07:56
keithzgalvin: Yeah, maybe. Weird though, since again, it worked fine under 14.10. It's not like my card is new enough to be that unsuported (it's 3 years or so old now)07:57
alvinLol, yes. Having an 'older' card usually works better. I took my nVidia card out of my desktop, because I needed to boot twice every time (grub -> blank screen, reboot -> grub, normal boot)07:58
alvinHave you tried the open source driver? They are usually better at this sort of thing.07:59
keithzgalvin: Not a valid option, it doesn't perform nearly well enough yet with my card to play modern games.07:59
keithzgAnd, again, all this worked fine in 14.10 :(07:59
alvinFair enough. That's usually the case.08:00
alvinI don't use AMD because of their bad BSD support, but isn't the situation in Linux getting better? For the open source driver I mean.08:01
keithzgOh, indeed, the open source driver is actually very solid these days.08:02
keithzgThe only place it lags behind is performance.08:02
keithzgAnd with truly older cards that's no longer even the case AFAIK.08:02
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keithzgIt's one of the reasons I went with AMD for this build; I figure by the time AMD's official support starts to flag, or maybe well before then, the open source driver will have caught up.08:03
keithzgAnd it's always WAY less hassle to go with the non-binary-blob drivers.08:03
keithzgSo what's the officially recommended way these days of disabling the fancy boot animations and just getting the actual text?08:07
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lordievaderkeithzg: Removing "splash quiet" doesn't work?08:08
keithzglordievader: Oh, don't get me wrong, that's exactly what I was going to go for. Just wasn't sure if removing those from /etc/default/grub was still the main recommended way, it's been so long since I last did so08:11
keithzgNice to know some things haven't changed :)08:12
yossarianukwell - reinstalled system - 15.04 + 5.3 PPA (with nvidia) this time absolutely fine.08:12
keithzgUhhh . . . hmm. Now if I click on "restart" or "shut down" all I get is visual glitches, no actual buttons to choose from to confirm :(08:13
keithzgAt least the 30s timeout eventually kicks in. But that's . . . not convenient!08:14
keithzg(to be specific: the screen blurs out and dims, except for the central area where the dialog is supposed to be, but no dialog appears)08:14
alvinyes, removing 'splash' is still valid08:14
alvinkeithzg: Maybe you can find something in the new logs. journalctl08:15
soeegood morning08:15
cup`ocoffeeGood morning :)08:16
cup`ocoffeeI just had a problem on kde.org. I was not able to identify myself at userbase.kde.org with my openid from launchpad/ubuntu. Is that a known issue?08:16
keithzgalvin: Yeah, the systemd journal was my next stop, first was confirming to myself that the opensource drivers work. And indeed, switching to them my VTs come back. So now, back to the proprietary drivers and to see what the logs say...08:17
alvinGood old open source :-)08:18
yossarianukkeithzg: did you get this after installing 5.3 on nvidia  h/w?08:18
yossarianukthe problem with using the opensource nvidia drivers is it cuts openGL framerates by about 80%...08:19
yossarianukseems silly to spend good money on a card then unclock it by 80%..08:20
keithzgyossarianuk: Got no nvidia HW left these days, got a bit pissed off with their strategy. I'm all Intel and AMD for graphics now.08:20
yossarianukalso all free drivers lack opengl4.x support - meaning you simply cannot play the latest steam games.08:20
keithzgAMD seems to get glitchy for me every second dist upgrade; NVIDIA would outright break for me (as in, no X11 at all) in some new way every single time :P08:21
yossarianukkeithzg: ok - just sounded exactly the same as I had the day before which is why I asked.08:21
keithzgyossarianuk: Yeah, that's unfortunately why I'm stuck with fglrx, been playing The Talos Principle and Dying Light, which are both very demanding games.08:21
yossarianukif you want good FPS in games for a not insane price you still need nvidia at the min unfortuntely08:22
yossarianukand their annoying driver.08:22
keithzgWell, I got these cards (actually have them in two PCs) back about 3 years ago or so, and at the time in the mid-range it was solidly in AMD's favour.08:22
keithzgThey do seem to trade off every generation or two.08:22
keithzgAnd considering how impossible NVIDIA has been making things for nouveau lately, I'm inclined to pay the premium to know I can reliably fall back on the FOSS drivers. But that is admittedly a bit just ideological.08:23
* keithzg is the kind of guy whose favourite podcast is Free As In Freedom, heh08:25
lordievaderThe Radeon opensource driver is rather nice. If you don't play games.08:25
* keithzg laments how much slower systemd is to boot than upstart08:26
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lordievaderIt does?08:27
lordievaderHere it is the same or faster for as far as I know.08:27
keithzgWell, in every system I've upgraded to 15.04 it does, yeah. My laptop for example (Chromebook Pixel, first gen) 15.04 starts up nearly instantaneously if I choose upstart, but takes an appreciable amount of time if I leave it at the default of using systemd.08:28
keithzgAnd this desktop it's definitely *far* slower than it was before (and it's an i7 3770K, so it's not like it's slow hardware; it previously booted near instantaneously too, now is more like 20 seconds)08:29
lordievaderkeithzg: systemd-analyze and 'systemd-analyze blame' ;)08:29
keithzglordievader: But I thought it was all supposed to Just Work :P08:30
keithzg(thanks, I'll check that out. But seriously, systemd really doesn't feel as mature as upstart yet.)08:30
lordievaderIt works, doesn't it?08:30
lordievaderIsn't systemd allmost as old as upstart?08:31
lordievaderUpstart is quite young itself ;)08:31
keithzgWhoa, it took a total of 50 seconds? Yikes.08:31
keithzgThere is no way an i7 3770K should take that long . . . yeesh.08:31
keithzglordievader: Oh, they are indeed about the same age. But systemd aims to do FAR more, so is taking longer to mature.08:32
keithzgThere's a reason Google went for, and is sticking with, upstart for ChromeOS.08:32
lordievaderFair enough.08:32
thelionroarsmy desktop is also a 3770k, haven't experienced any slowness starting but I've definitely had occasional freezes where nothing much happens08:33
lordievaderkeithzg: Do you run some kind of luks/lvm setup?08:34
thelionroarsthe huge text/icons/windows with proprietary Nvidia driver are also annoying as hell08:34
keithzglordievader: Nopes, just a very bog standard single ext4 partition.08:35
lordievaderHmm...08:35
lordievaderWhat is the output of 'systemd-analyze blame' anyhows?08:35
keithzglordievader: Top is "13.150s gpu-manager.service".08:36
lordievaderNow that is a service I never heared of...08:36
keithzgHow do I see the log for a specific service with systemd?08:37
lordievaderkeithzg: journalctl -u <service>08:37
keithzglordievader: Thanks. Alas, not very helpful log output, just "systemd[1]: Starting Detect the available GPUs and deal with any system changes..." then "gpu-manager[964]: /etc/modprobe.d is not a file" four times and finishing with "systemd[1]: Started Detect the available GPUs and deal with any system changes." which is very poor grammer :P08:38
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lordievaderSounds a bit like a service that would be disabled on a box of mine.08:40
keithzgGeneral journalctl -b seems to be filled with a long section of ureadahead saying it's ignoring a relative path (pages and pages of this).08:41
keithzgStill no clue why VTs aren't working. Arghhh!08:41
keithzg(Well, other than that it involves the fglrx drivers)08:41
yossarianukkeithzg: I had exactly the same thing (but with nvidia) - I 'solved' by re-installing.08:42
lordievaderIt could very well be the kms alvin pointed out, those closed source drivers allways have a problem with kms.08:42
yossarianuki.e it took about a minute to boot the system (oddly after installing 5.3 - but that was not the cause) during boot I could just see black screen08:43
keithzglordievader: Weird though that it wasn't a problem with 14.10, though, wouldn't have expected such a regression. But I suppose it's quite possible.08:43
yossarianukand I could not access the tty's (i.e ctrl+alt+f2)08:43
yossarianukafter reinstalling it was fine - also still fine after plasma 5.3 (which makes no sense)08:44
keithzgyossarianuk: Reinstalled the drivers, or the distro itself? Hmm. Maybe time for me to run a purge+reinstall on the fglrx drivers.08:45
nikola_how does device notifier learn about new hardware08:52
nikola_it doesn't recognize my camera and I'd like to debug this08:52
nikola_is there supposed to be a udev rule for this08:52
lordievadernikola_: Likely through udev.08:54
yossarianukkeithzg: reinstalled the distro.08:56
yossarianukkeithzg: I actually blanked the driver - installed debian first then 15.04 kubuntu08:56
yossarianukdo you have UEFI also ?08:56
keithzgyossarianuk: Actually, on this install I'm *not* using UEFI . . . err, I think. I could be wrong, honestly, it's been a long time since I installed it.08:57
keithzgIIRC I originally used UEFI, but then didn't when I reinstalled it shortly after setting it up, since the SSD I originally bought died in the first month.08:58
keithzgWell, damn, a purge and reinstall fixed nothing.09:08
keithzgit's 3AM where I live, though, so I think I'm going to give up for now, and lament my foolish desire to upgrade.09:09
keithzgAlthough . . . hmm.09:09
keithzgAnd yeah, upstart takes less than half the time to boot that systemd does.09:12
keithzgStill no VTs, though, so it must be KMS issues with the AMD proprietary drivers. I'm throwing this problem into Tomorrow Keith's bucket, though, and going to sleep. G'night, y'all (and thanks for the help, lordievader, yossarianuk and alvin)09:13
alvinGoodnight09:14
z4sk4hi all, i am on kubuntu 15.04 and i have problems with backports wifi drivers... (i need stop network-manager to monitoring..)  but in my kubuntu 14.04 by default i have wifi drivers so... what is the packet that have default drivers?? if install ir will disapear the message of "[phy0]SIOCSIFFLAGS: Name not unique on network"?09:16
alvinIs there a method to let owncloudclient stop complaining about the system tray?09:17
lordievaderkeithzg: Sleep well.09:17
alvinz4sk4: You backported wifi drivers for 15.04?09:18
z4sk4alvin: i install backports 4.1 yeah, follow this: https://backports.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Documentation/packaging (only work for me make defconf-wifi, i i sleect all, nothing works)09:19
z4sk4but the problem its that on kubuntu 14.04 i dont need to stop daemon of network-manager and on 15.04 yes...09:20
z4sk4what its the common packet on ubuntu to wifi drivers? because by default on 14.04 i can see RTL chipset and on 15.04 no09:22
alvinI'm having trouble understanding your sentences. You backported wifi drivers from kernel 4.1 to 3.19 and succeeded? Then you want to stop network-manager, but that doesn't work?09:22
z4sk4alvin: NO, backports 4.1 is not for kernel 4.1 only is the version09:23
z4sk4alvin: i install drivers of backports 4.1 on kernel 3.909:23
z4sk4alvin: i need to monitorin, so when i start the monitor on mon0 i have this: rtl8187 - [phy0]SIOCSIFFLAGS: Name not unique on network09:24
z4sk4so i must stop network-manager to make ir work correctly09:25
z4sk4and on kubunu 14.04 i havent got this problem, but in 14.04 i had default drivers wirelles + backports drivers09:25
alvinWell, stopping network-manager is sudo systemctl stop network-manager.service09:25
z4sk4BUT on 15.04 HAVENT got this default drivers, so i ask alvin what its the name of the packet for Normal wifi drivers09:26
alvinIt might not work though. I'm new to systemd, but I suspect that the service will only stop if no other daemons depend on it.09:26
z4sk4and alvin the problem to stop network-manager its maybe i am wired and need to scan wifi and i must diconect the wired,  and this is SO BAD09:27
alvinYou're not making sense to me. packet?09:27
z4sk4i need to know the name of .deb on the repository of wifi drivers09:27
alvinAh, the package. That'll be linux-image-generic.09:41
davevanloogreetings all, im trying to make a file executible.. but using the terminal nor the dolphin it just simply does not work.. even when sudo (ing) it in the terminal aka: chmod +x script.sh any idea as to why?09:54
hateballdavevanloo: define "does not work"09:55
lordievaderdavevanloo: Does it have the shebang?09:55
hateballas in, how have you come to the conclusion it is not executable09:55
davevanloowhen i execute it, it gives me acces denied.., when checking the file.. it did not make any changes to it09:55
hateballIs the file located on a mountpoint that allows executable bit to be sit?09:56
hateballs/sit/set/09:56
davevanlooits mounted to /media/<user>/-->mounted09:56
hateballand you're trying to launch it how? by typing full path?09:57
s_20what file system type is that?09:57
davevanlooNTFS :(09:57
s_20there you go.09:57
davevanloomhmm, any way i would be able to execute a SH script in there then? i used to be able to quite a while ago.09:58
alvindavevanloo: Is 'noexec' set on that mount? (check the output of 'mount')09:58
hateballiirc isnt everything on ntfs marked as executable when mounted?09:58
hateballby default, that is09:58
s_20davevanloo: if it's just about a shellscript you might as well just do "sh /media/foo/bar"09:58
alvinYou might try running it with '/bin/sh script.sh'09:58
davevanlooi have several drives, give me a moment to check the correct one so i can look it up in the output of mount09:59
alvin'several drives' is an understatement since the switch to systemd :-)10:00
davevanloorofl10:00
davevanloo/dev/sda1 on /media/dave/Data type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096) i do not think it has noexec10:00
bennypr0faneHello, I got a new wlan dongle, of which there are several revisions, and I'd like to find out which one I got. lshw and lsusb are telling me different things, none of which include the version number.10:00
bennypr0faneBus 001 Device 003: ID 0bda:8178 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8192CU 802.11n WLAN Adapter10:02
s_20davevanloo: just guessing here, i might be very wrong, but i think you'd need to explcitly set a mount flag for *all* files to be executable, POSIX flags like +x probably don't work as expected10:03
bennypr0faneIt's a T-Link TL-WN822N10:03
alvinI'm reading about that 'default_permissions' option in 'man fuse'. The ntfs-3g manual says that files are executable by default10:03
bennypr0faneno, TP-Link, sorry10:03
davevanloos_20: how would i go and do that then? :#10:03
s_20davevanloo: i'm at work, but i reckon there's a specific flag you can pass to mount10:04
davevanlooroger, im reading the forums a bit.. and i might be able to sudo sh /path/to/file trying it now10:05
alvinbennypr0fane: It's possible that the hardware does not know its version number, but you do know what chip is used. Find the differences between the versions, and find out that way what adapter you have.10:05
s_20davevanloo: also, do you really need root priviliges to run that shellscript?10:05
BluesKaj'Morning folks10:05
davevanloonot really lol10:05
davevanlooits the moodbar script for amarock :P10:05
bennypr0fanealvin: how do I find out which chip is used in the versions I don't have?10:06
alvinThe internet I suppose. TP-Link's documentation if you're lucky.10:06
alvindavevanloo: Try getfacl on that file to see the NTFS permissions10:07
davevanloopermissions are: user: RW owner dave aswel as group rest is blanq10:07
edwin__BluesKaj, howdy10:08
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alvinHmmm, that might be it. ntfs-3g says "By default, files and directories are owned by the effective user and group of the mounting process, and everybody has full read, write, execution and..." but maybe ACL's are important too.10:09
BluesKajhi ejay10:11
davevanloomhmm..10:11
lordievaderdavevanloo: No execute right?10:12
lordievaderrights*10:12
davevanlooindeed, getting acces denied10:12
bennypr0fanefound it: http://www.tp-link.com/at/Article/?id=4610:13
davevanloolordievader: on NTFS file system, trying to run amarock moodbar script10:13
bennypr0faneit actually was on the back of the device, stupid (or rather blind,because I had checked that) me10:13
lordievaderdavevanloo: I was talking about the getfacl output ;)10:14
jittuany one is there10:15
lordievaderjittu: See /names10:15
davevanloolordievader: noexec was not in the output10:15
lordievaderdavevanloo: Could you pastebin the output?10:16
davevanlooit seems now to.. dont know what i did.. the script runs.., i am just needing to properly install gstreamer plugins..10:16
jittuhay i want some help about kubuntu10:16
lordievader!ask | jittu10:16
ubottujittu: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:16
davevanloolordievader: pastebin: http://pastebin.com/g6k0f0FG10:17
jittui just want to know how to login as root10:17
lordievaderjittu: Why?10:17
lordievaderThe base of Ubuntu is build around not logging in as root.10:17
jittui installed kubuntu in my laptop10:17
lordievaderdavevanloo: No execute permissions ;)10:18
davevanloohehe :P10:18
davevanloolordievader: would you know how to fix it?10:18
lordievaderdavevanloo: Change permissions, forgot if NTFS supports this...10:19
davevanloochmod does not work..10:19
jittucan any one tell me ..how php my admin and my sql are install in kubuntu10:19
lordievader!info phpmyadmin10:20
ubottuphpmyadmin (source: phpmyadmin): MySQL web administration tool. In component universe, is extra. Version 4:4.2.12-2 (vivid), package size 3721 kB, installed size 23877 kB10:20
jittuyes but how to install10:20
lordievader!info mysql-server10:21
ubottumysql-server (source: mysql-5.6): MySQL database server (metapackage depending on the latest version). In component main, is optional. Version 5.6.24-0ubuntu2 (vivid), package size 8 kB, installed size 116 kB10:21
lordievaderjittu: sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin mysql-server10:21
davevanloohowever i did manager to execute sh moodbar.sh to properly run it.. atleast my problem is fixed that way sort off..10:21
jittuE: Unable to locate package phpmyadmin E: Unable to locate package mysql-server10:21
lordievader!info mysql-server vivid10:22
ubottumysql-server (source: mysql-5.6): MySQL database server (metapackage depending on the latest version). In component main, is optional. Version 5.6.24-0ubuntu2 (vivid), package size 8 kB, installed size 116 kB10:22
lordievaderjittu: Wut? What version of Kubuntu are you running?10:22
jittui dont know10:23
lordievaderjittu: lsb_release -a10:23
jittuwhts this10:24
jittuDistributor ID: Ubuntu Description:    Ubuntu 11.10 Release:        11.10 Codename:       oneiric10:24
lordievaderDon't think Oneiric is supported anymore.10:26
lordievader!eol10:26
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades10:26
alvinAha, a challenge :-)10:26
jittuwhat i do10:26
alvinEither upgrade or erase and install another version. Upgrading might take a long time. You'd have to run several upgrades after another depending on what version you want to end with.10:27
jittuis possible or not10:27
alvindavevanloo: You should be able to set the permissions with setfacl I believe. But it's not as easy as chmod.10:28
davevanlooalvin: thank you.. i will def look into that10:28
BluesKajbennypr0fane: which tp-link device are you using ? I have a wdr3600 router and the 8816 modem. and did you solvw your problem ?10:28
jittujust tell me bro10:29
BluesKajjittu:  install a newer versin , 11.10 stands for the year and the month it's released , the latest kubuntu is 15.04 released a week ago10:31
BluesKajversin=version10:32
Zerkalerkanew kubuntu is nice10:36
Zerkalerka:D10:36
jittuok thanku so much bro10:38
BluesKajjittu:  it's ok you don't have to call me " bro "10:40
jittuwhy10:41
disajust installed kubuntu 15.04, and cannot figure out how to set up a VPN connection10:42
jittui din't get you .....10:42
* bip Back!10:42
BluesKajdisa:  which vpn protocol ?10:45
BluesKajopenvpn or....?10:47
disaBluesKaj: pptp10:47
disaBluesKaj: i am told to use network-manager but i dont even know how to use that10:48
disaBluesKaj: do I need to install a gui frontend to Network Manager?10:49
disaBluesKaj: I see that packages network-manager and network-manager-pptp are installed10:49
disaI tried to install network-manager-kde but that failed (no candidate)10:50
BluesKajdisa:  network-manager-pptp should be installed by default, but check your software center/package manager10:51
BluesKajdisa:  network manager for kubuntu is installed by default already10:52
disaBluesKaj: how do I start the user interface to set up the connection?10:52
BluesKajdisa:  you will need the vpn server info from the remote server, most likely a username and password10:55
disaBluesKaj: sure, but what do I do on this end? where do I enter this info?10:56
BluesKajusually  a shell script with an sh file extension provided by the server10:57
alvindisa: click in the system tray on the 'Networks' item, and then the configure button10:57
alvinSomewhat related, what happened to the nm-tool application?10:58
BluesKajalvin:  do you mean configure network applications?10:59
alvin(also related: pptp is not safe, but still popular. If that's your server, I'd try to switch to something more secure)10:59
alvinBluesKaj: More or less. With nm-tool you could see some settings in the command line11:00
alvinFor example, what DNS server you are using and what network you're connected to.11:00
disaalvin: when you say system tray, do you mean "System Settings" in the aplication manager?11:01
alvinSince your DNS server is always 127.0.0.1 it's difficult to find out the real one.11:01
alvindisa: No, I meant the system tray. Usually to be found in the right corner below, unless you moved it.11:01
alvinActually, putting this in System Settings wouldn't be a bad idea.11:02
disaalvin: that seems to be my problem: no system tray11:02
alvindisa: That's another problem, yes :-) Let's restore it then. It's just a widget. Add it somewhere.11:03
disaok oops plasma crashed11:05
BluesKajdisa:  most vpns provide a script to run the vpn connection on your vpn client and network-manager , does your server have a support tutorial ?11:06
disaBluesKaj: server has a page on how to connect using Network Manager, but I could not fing how to open the gui to input server info11:08
BluesKajdisa:  run sudo service network-manager-pptp start in the konsole11:09
BluesKajbut you probly need to download or create a script11:11
disathanks all. I think I have managed to open the correct interface11:12
disathe problem was that there was no Networks icon in the system panel11:12
BluesKaj??11:13
BluesKajshould be there by defauilt11:13
disano idea how it happened11:13
BluesKajok11:14
disaI think I should reboot now. I will come back if I have further problems :-)11:14
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tron71Hi11:46
tron71I'm facing this very annoying bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34367311:46
ubottuKDE bug 343673 in general "KDEInit could not launch </usr/bin/kate>" [Grave,Resolved: fixed]11:46
tron71I see that it is fixed in kde applications 15.0411:47
tron71are there any plans to provide a version of kde applications 15.04 for Kubuntu?11:47
tron71because that bug makes Kate almost impossible to use...11:47
tron71it's usable only with a single file ;)11:47
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BluesKajtron71:  are you running 15.04?11:56
tron71BluesKaj: yes, I do run 15.04, but it does not seem to provide kde applications 15.0412:02
tron71if I understand correctly12:02
tron71the two versions are unrelated, aren't they?12:06
BluesKajtron71:  one kate app at a time seems to be the bug I see12:07
daumhey guys - i'm on 14.04 and noticed that the 15.04 ones are out...but my muon updater isn't showing it as an option any idea why?12:08
BluesKajplasma 4 is supposedly supposed to integrate with plasma 5 , but there are problems tron7112:08
BluesKajdaum:  probly because the updater is set to notify LTS releases only12:09
daumBluesKaj, isn't 14.04 a LTS?12:10
daumohhh12:10
daumi see what you mean12:10
daum15 isn't12:10
BluesKajexactly12:11
tron71BluesKaj: can you reproduce the bug? The bug is also present in the live version of kubuntu 15.0412:11
BluesKajtron71:  yes, many times :/12:12
BluesKajI just complained about in the devel chat12:13
tron71#kubuntu-devel?12:14
BluesKajyup12:14
tron71I've just joined the channel12:14
tron71has anyone answered yet? (I don't know how to retrieve previous messages after joining a channel)12:16
BluesKajtron71:  go ahead and mention the bug ...i complain there a lot so I think they don't pay much attention anymore (to my compaints)12:18
alvinssh server -> no problem (public key authentication), but stp://server in Dolphin? -> The host key for this server was not found, but another type of key exists. An attacker might change the default server key to confuse your client into thinking the key does not exists. Please contact your system administrator."12:52
alvinThis goes for every SSH connection. No trouble at all using the shell, but Dolphin gives this message for every server I've tried.12:52
BluesKajalvin:  yup I can ssh without a problem from the konsole, but not with the network folder option in dolphin12:56
BluesKajI get the same notice12:56
alvinFound it bug 145008512:57
ubottubug 1450085 in kde-runtime (Ubuntu) "kio_sftp can't connect to hosts after OpenSSH 6 has cached their ECDSA key" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145008512:57
alvinI'm starting to question the wisdom of fixed release dates again.12:58
BluesKajalvin:  if it's any compensation, fish works13:00
alvinI don't like to use fish if I can help it, but ok. It's a workaround. Although I don't intend to change my > 100 SFTP links  in remote:/13:01
lordievaderalvin: scp? rsync?13:03
Roeygood morning all! o/13:04
lordievaderHey Roey13:04
RoeySo good news!  I got my system booting by (1) running btrfs-zero-log on /dev/sda (my booting/root/home BTRFS volume)13:05
Roey(2) booting Kubuntu in runlevel 3 (because SDDM seems to be having issues)13:06
alvinlordievader: rsync over ssh and scp, and sftp and ssh are all working perfectly in a shell. It's Dolphin that doesn't want it.13:06
Roey(3) right now, at this point, I have everything working except X13:06
Roey(background: I had upgraded from 14.10 -> 15.04)13:06
lordievaderRoey: With systemd runlevels no longer exist ;)13:06
Roeyright13:07
Roeylordievader:  I did linux 313:07
Roeyat GRUB13:07
Roeyand it worked.13:07
Roeylinux text 3 --13:07
RoeyHow do I make this permanent?13:07
Roeyas in, I want it to start up without X13:07
Roeyalso, is it not correct to start an X session with startx anymore?13:07
Roeyit has to be sddm or lightdm?13:07
Roeylordievader:  ^13:08
lordievaderThe 3 is likely ignored. 'text' puts (Ubuntu) in text mode.13:08
lordievaderRoey: Edit /etc/default/grub13:08
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Roeylordievader:  I've tried "text" by itself and while it showed me all the text of bootup, it still tried to start X.13:16
Roeylordievader:  ok, I'll edit /etc/default/grub.13:16
lordievaderDisable sddm in systemd?13:16
Roeyhow ?13:18
Roeysystemctl disable sddm??13:18
Roeyand how do I start X from a console?13:19
alvinI'm not sure if systemctl disable actually helps if there's another .service that depends on it13:19
lordievaderRoey: sudo systemctl disable sddm, yes.13:22
lordievaderAre there any systemd optimization guides out there?13:23
hyper_chis there a way to have icons not turn grey in the taskbar when they're inactive? using task-icon only taskbar and having it all greyed out makes it hard to see the application you want to reactivate13:34
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Roeylordievader:  <ohsix> there's the systemd-analyze man page :p13:37
Roey<ohsix> no big knobs, really; you find out what sucks and fix it13:37
Roeyfrom #systemd13:38
lordievaderRoey: Yeah, I was talking a bit deeper ;)13:40
Roeylordievader:  yeah figured as much :)13:40
Roeybtw where in /etc/default/grub does it let you specify booting without X?13:40
Roeyis it just GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="text"?>13:41
Roeyer13:41
Roey="Text"?13:41
Roeyand GRUB_TERMINAL=console ?13:41
Roey(that's not X I don't think)13:41
lordievaderCMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT13:41
lordievaderOr something...13:41
* lordievader rarely uses /etc/default/grub13:42
RoeyGRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="text" is what I have13:42
Roeyand it seems to get ignored13:42
Roeyon the other hand, I have a /etc/default/grub from anothe rsystem which DOES seem to work13:42
Roeyand the differences between the two files aren't that apparent13:42
lordievaderCan you pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg after you ran update-grub2?13:43
Roeyit's 544 lines long though!13:43
Roeylordievader:  before I post the file, I do want to stress that I am more interested in getting SDDM to run correctly13:44
Roeyon bootup, if I boot up to X,13:44
lordievaderFix X ;)13:44
Roeythen SDDM shows, I see a button for rebooting/power, and a combo box for picking the session type, but no fields for username/password13:45
lordievaderThat sounds like a problem with SDDM, not X.13:48
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Roeyhey there15:27
Roeywhen I start Kubuntu 15.04, I get to SDDM, and I see a combobox letting me choose among environments (fvwm, xfce, Plasma, etc.) -- but nothing else.  No fields for username/password.  What gives?15:27
BluesKajmaybe it will give the fields once you choose a DE, Roey15:30
RoeyI did15:31
Roeynothing happens.15:31
RoeyI don't see /anything/ there besides the combobox on the left, and the power off/reset buttons on the right.15:31
BluesKajRoey, then drop to a tty/vt and instll lightdm , it might work for you15:32
Finetundrahello folks, how would I swap alsa for pulse audio?15:32
RoeyBluesKaj:  lightdm gives me an error when I try to start it, and it only runs as sudo for some reason.15:33
RoeyBluesKaj:  I don't get it though; I tried booting with Linux Mint 17 and it's fine.15:33
RoeyAnd I think it also uses SDDM.15:33
RoeyLinux MINT 17 KDE15:33
BluesKajyou don't pulse rides on top of alsa as a sound server Finetundra ,but can purge pulse if you want leaving alsa as your default15:33
RoeyFinetundra:  they're different layers of the sound stack, they complement each other, not replace.15:34
Finetundrais pulse installed by default?15:34
BluesKajFinetundra, yes15:35
Finetundrawould it count as a mixer?15:35
BluesKajit has a mixer option as does alsa15:36
Finetundraok, thats what I needed to know. thanks15:36
BluesKajbut pulse allows simultaneous sound sources to be played/streames15:37
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Guest91910Hallo16:16
BluesKajHi Guest9191016:20
wldcordeiroFor OpenGL 3.1 which renderer is better? GLX?16:36
sithlord48i honestly have not noticed a difference between EGL or GLX (provided EGL is supported by your hardware)16:39
wldcordeirosithlord48: I keep getting weird compositor crashes right now where my windows stay but they lose their decorations and animations stop working using 3.1 and GLX so I was wondering if there was a difference.16:43
sithlord48try egl see if its better for your hardware.. maybe those animations dont work correctly on open gl 3.116:45
wldcordeirosithlord48: I wasn't having issues when I was on kde 5.2 but the 5.3 update has been causing the plasma crashes.16:48
sithlord48do you have a properity video driver ? that is usually the cause of such problems . i have also heard nvidia cards may have issues.16:49
wldcordeiroNo I'm using the recommended one.16:50
wldcordeirox.org X driver for amd16:50
wldcordeirowould fglrx be better?16:51
sithlord48i doubt it16:52
sithlord48i have not had any issues wiht effects on plasma 5.3 here and amd open driver16:53
sithlord48maybe its the effect or decoration your using ?16:53
Zerkalerkacan I upgrade from 5.2 to 5.3?16:59
Zerkalerkashouldn't say can I.. should ask where can I get the deb files for 5.316:59
Zerkalerkaor must I build from srC?17:00
sithlord48sure you can just add the kubuntu backports ppa17:00
sithlord48Zerkalerka: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5.317:00
Zerkalerkanice, I shall install now17:01
sithlord48just need to add that repo sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports    then update your package list and you will have updates17:01
Zerkalerkayeah then apt-get upgrade17:03
Zerkalerkaand should install right17:03
sithlord48yup17:05
sithlord48iirc after adding the ppa i had 82 updates17:06
Zerkalerka7217:07
Zerkalerkafor moi17:07
Zerkalerkayou ever get that error popping up about ttf-msconf fonts? or something like that.. even after I purge it pops up once a day lol17:07
Zerkalerkaon 15.0417:08
sithlord48nope17:08
Zerkalerkaah strange17:08
Zerkalerkaalright I installed17:08
Zerkalerkagonna do a quick reboot17:08
Zerkalerkabrb17:08
Zerkalerkasithlord48: well that wasn't fun lol17:30
sithlord48?17:30
Zerkalerkakwin desktop was always crashing and as soon as plasma would load it would just be frozen and couldn't do anything lol17:30
sithlord48odd.17:31
Zerkalerkai purged the ppa, reloaded it then did apt-get update && apt-get install kubuntu-desktop && apt-get dist upgrade17:31
Zerkalerkaand now I am back on fine17:31
sithlord48intresting... what kind of video card are you using?17:32
Zerkalerkanvidia 840m17:32
geniiI would guess hybrid Intel/NVidia17:32
Zerkalerkai have the latest kernel installed.. and I always get an error booting up17:32
Zerkalerkayeah17:32
sithlord48ahh i heard nvidia was having issues with plasma 5 some times17:32
Zerkalerkahybrids suck17:32
Zerkalerkaah that error popped up17:32
Zerkalerkattf-mscorefonts-installer17:32
sithlord48oh you need to prolly re run that . it fetches stuff from teh web.17:33
geniiI would try: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install --reinstall ttf-mscorefonts-installer17:34
Zerkalerkayeah just did that17:34
Zerkalerkaits going now17:34
ZerkalerkaThey changed a bunch of icons in the menu I noticed.17:34
sithlord48its your icon theme17:35
Zerkalerkaah makes sense17:35
Zerkalerkaany good place to look for new plasma themes?17:39
MoonUnit`settings/workspace theme/desktop theme then click  get new themes.17:45
MoonUnit`basicly a kde frontend for http://kde-look.org/17:46
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MoonUnit`many of the settings in kde settings will have a button to browse for new downloadable bits.17:48
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Roeyhey is Kubuntu 15.10 going to use Snappy instead of .debs ?17:52
Zerkalerkasithlord4:  http://gyazo.com/fb71953524aa184b32a03abb818be0b617:53
sithlord4Zerkalerka: its a failure of that installer .. maybe you should remove those fonts.17:55
Zerkalerkayeah I had them removed the entire time and always had that, then just installed them again and still pops up :(17:56
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ZerkalerkaAnyone know how to disable the splash screen on startup so I can watch systemd going at it instead18:23
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MoonUnit`remove quiet splash from /etc/default/grub then run sudo update-grub18:28
Zerkalerkaty18:29
EuviusIs there any way to see my tray icons again, besides these new general ones18:36
Euviusmost of my app tray icons are now missing since switching to Plasma 518:37
soeeEuvius: you might want to install sqni-qt:i38618:37
Euviusim on 64 bit18:38
soeeso skype and owncloud will work, but others might missing anyway18:38
Euviusshould i get 68618:38
soeeEuvius: doesnt matter you need i38618:38
Euviusok18:38
soeeEuvius: you might want to read http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/18:39
Euviusok thanks18:39
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Fleckhttp://imgur.com/RbF38Mi << seems like many KDE apps have problems with kio... gwenview also in the list, can't use browse after upgrade to KDE Plasma...19:16
Fleckideas?19:16
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rattkinghey all, does anyone here have kontact talking to office365? I use to have this working with davmail and now it does not and I dont know what changed.. probably something server side..20:59
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arunceHi, I can't restart the plasmashell with composite effects. (compositor is enabled and working with windows and other stuff.). The only solution is to logout and login. Any ideas besides logout/login?22:04
soee_arunce: restart how ? through cli ?22:07
aruncesoee_: yes22:12
aruncesoee_: and not only, after shift+ctrl+f12 composite won't work for plasma22:13
soee_on propriety drivers or noveau ?22:16
aruncenvidia drivers22:16
aruncebut it's working for everything else, like windows, desktop effects22:16
aruncealso, going for plasma 5.3 of kubuntu/backports didn't solve anything22:18
aruncethe samething happens with radeon22:20
soee_with opengl 3.1 ?22:22
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aruncesoee: with both opengl22:32
aruncesoee: Maybe I need to restart after choosing opengl 3.1. I didn't try that yet.22:35
trewok i try now Kubuntu 15.04 on virtual box and this so awesome!22:41
soee":)22:41
trewthank you devlopers22:42
aruncebrb22:43
trewi have PPA with KDE 4 on real machine but it's crash all the time22:43
soeetrew: and waht system with KDE4 ?22:44
trewkubuntu22:44
soeeKDE4 should be stable22:45
trewsoee: it's very very very not22:47
trewthe desktop crash on start and what i get it's only background black22:48
trew the desktop crash on start and what i get it's only background black22:49
trewI did not understand why it released the next version if it is so unstable22:49
aruncesoee: it's the same.22:55
lyonsbHi, I installed Kubuntu 15.04 on an X200 Tablet laptop, and the Wacom Penabled tablet screen isn't responding to pen input.  Also dmesg | grep input isn't showing the Wacom tablet, and xsetwacom --list devices isn't showing anything.22:56
lyonsbI tried moving the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf file out of that directory (to see if it was blocking a necessary module) to no effect.22:57
lyonsbI had Debian Jessie on it previously, and have also tested with a Live CD in which the pen worked perfectly.22:57
lyonsbInternet searches have not helped yet.23:10
morgan_id just like to say - the latest updates tonight have completely fixed issues I was having with Nvidia + 15.04 + Plasma5.3 PPA23:12
morgan_desktop running very smoothly now.23:13
[Relic]will I have to redo all my settings and layout if I upgrade 14.10 to 15.04?23:21
jkirby15.04 is not really ready for prime-time. My 14.10 worked great. 15.04 has all sorts of issues. For example, half the time it will not restart. Sometimes when I am able to restart, wallpapers and desktop setting do not stick.23:22
jkirbyBut I have hope :23:22
jkirby[relic] YES23:23
jkirbyI probably should have waited a couple of months before upgrading, but I am on 15.04, so not much I can do about that now.23:26
jkirbyAlso upgraded to kernel 4; which seem quite solid for the most part.23:27
Chaser_Was just upgrading my kubuntu 15.04 and the upgrade fails because systemd complaining about error initializing authority. http://paste.ubuntu.com/10957027/ .23:28
jkirbyJust be careful and make sure you are willing to handle the quirks for a while. Otherwise, I suggest sticking with 14.10 for a bit longer.23:28
jkirby[Chaser_] Which kernel version?23:29
Chaser_15.04's default - 3.19.0-15-generic.23:30
jkirbyMaybe try kernel 4.0 and make sure it is the upstart kernel. I think upstart is required for systemd23:30
jkirbyMine upgraded just fine. Only some minor quirks so far. It looks great.23:31
Chaser_Are you on 15.04 ?23:31
jkirbyYes23:31
jkirby15.04 with kernel 423:31
Chaser_ahh - too bleeding edge for me :)23:31
jkirbyBeen running kernel 4 since its release; ran great with 14.10 and seems to be fine with 15.0423:32
jkirbyBut there are issues with 15.40, so you may wish to wait just a skosh longer.23:32
jkirby15.0423:32
jkirbyMany widgets have not been ported yet. That was a bit of a downer23:33
Chaser_couldn't resist plasma. I should have waited.23:34
jkirbyI suspect things will solidify quickly. Kubuntu FTW :)23:35
jkirbyI spent two years in Arch, so Kubuntu is like a dream.23:36
gunndawgjkirby: didnt like Arch?23:37
jkirbyYes, I loved it, but it required too much work. It was great in teaching me how Linux works.23:38
jkirbyI ended up messing myself up too much. Audio was always problematic. Kubuntu just works23:38
jkirbyEverything in Arch is manual.23:39
acz32that's how i feel going from openbox to KDE23:40
jkirbyRight. I was a big XFCE4 fan under Arch. Loved the light weightness of XFCE, but I have plenty of RAM and plenty of cores, so KDE runs fine.23:41
jkirbyI ran Arch ARM on my Samsung Chromebook. With XFCE, it was quite impressive. KDE bogged it down so that is was barely usable.23:43
jkirbyAnyway, keep up the good work guys. Kubuntu is my OS of choice right now. All new releases have some bugs and I am sure they will get worked out.23:47
gunndawgjkirby: agreed. I'm happy with 14.04 at the moment :)23:49
gunndawgI"m currently trying to configure VIM for web development23:49
[Relic]think I will wait a few more weeks then to upgrade23:50
Martin7738Hi, I just installed kubuntu. Right after booting, I get the message "Please enter passphrase for disk TOSHIBA_MQ01ABD075 (cryptswap1) on none!" . Why is that necessary/asked, and what does it correspond to please ?23:53
Martin7738(seems to be linked to the fact that the home directory is encrypted, but...)23:55

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