[07:42] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:43] <elfy> morning lordievader
[07:43] <lordievader> Hey elfy, how are you?
[07:45] <elfy> just chilling for a bit before work :)
[07:46] <elfy> you?
[07:46] <lordievader> Trying to wake up.
[07:49] <elfy> :)
[10:05] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[14:44] <BluesKaj> why is this room still here?, there's no 15.10 on the horizon , nor is there any mention of it anywhere
[14:44] <Pici> no reason
[14:47] <BluesKaj> well ppl are still joining hoping to see some news about the next release whatever the name is :-)
[14:49] <genii> I'm still hoping for Wascally Wabbit
[14:49] <Meerkat> warty warthog?
[14:49] <genii> Meerkat: Already been used :)
[14:49] <BluesKaj> wacky wombat
[14:51]  * penguin42 still hopes for wiggly worm
[14:51] <BluesKaj> of course "wiley coyote" doesn't fit, but it would be good for laughs
[14:52] <elfy> I'm just going to be sorely disappointed :(
[14:53] <Meerkat> penguin42, I like that :
[14:53] <Meerkat> :)
[14:54] <lordievader> UDS is somewhere next week, right?
[14:55] <BluesKaj> hey elfy, I'm already disappointed in 15.04 and I'm afraid 15.10 will continue the mood
[14:55] <elfy> lordievader: UOS is 5th to the 7th
[14:55] <lordievader> Check, thanks.
[14:56] <BluesKaj> poor plsama intehration with lotsa bugs and dropped features that I really miss
[14:57] <BluesKaj> scuse my annoyed spelling mistakes
[14:58] <elfy> lordievader: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/
[14:58] <elfy> mostly phone stuff from what I can see
[15:01] <penguin42> BluesKaj: I think that's upstream Plasma 5 tbh
[15:01] <BluesKaj> ok, now the panel is frozen..great
[15:02] <penguin42> BluesKaj: I've switched to xfce for my main machines
[15:03] <BluesKaj> 2008 all over again, KDE3.5 to KDE4 wasn't easy either ..have to keep that in  mind
[15:07] <genii> BluesKaj: Yes, that was a pretty rough period
[15:14] <penguin42> BluesKaj: Yeh, that's the point I switched to Gnome2 I think
[15:16] <BluesKaj> penguin42, i struggled thruogh with KDE , never cared for gnome. I have tried it many times but it always leaves me wanting more and KDE fills the bill ...mostly
[15:16] <penguin42> BluesKaj: later 4 did for me as well
[15:17] <BluesKaj> what's all tis talk abour snappy on ubuntu , are they dropping deb packaging ?
[15:18] <penguin42> apparently so - but I don't how it's going to work
[15:18] <elfy> dropping debs will - if ever - be a long way from here
[15:19] <elfy> they'd necessarily have to force it on flavours
[15:19]  * penguin42 doesn't really understand how that will work if the infrastructure changes for it
[15:21] <BluesKaj> that kind of upsets me, I know it shouldn't because it's been in the cards for a while that ubuntu and kubuntu are becoming more independent with each new development on either OS
[15:21] <elfy> I've seen or read or been told anything that suggests that they'll only be supporting snappy
[15:21] <elfy> BluesKaj: Kubuntu is not the only official flavour :)
[15:22] <BluesKaj> or to put it more correctly r"respective OSs"
[15:23] <BluesKaj> elfy, yes I know but the other flavours are still supported by canonical , kubuntu has gone to blue systems
[15:23] <elfy> we're not anymore supported than you are
[15:24] <elfy> you used to have a paid dev - we don't ;)
[15:24] <elfy> kubuntu gets from Canonical the same as Xubuntu does
[15:25] <BluesKaj> elfy, then that shows neglect since blue systems supports kubuntu on it's own with dedicated devs
[15:26] <elfy> you feel neglected - Xubuntu doesn't ;)
[15:29] <BluesKaj> no I don't feel neglected, Canonical is doing the neglecting IMO... i have to remember we're in transition and that's the reason for my complaints