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| extraymond | Hi! I'm pretty new to utouch, would like to know whether nexus 4 is gonna be supported in the future? Would like to buy a 2nd hand nexus 4 for development. | 07:05 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 07:06 |
| extraymond | Is this the right channel to ask such question? | 07:07 |
| dholbach | extraymond, it is the right channel yes | 07:08 |
| dholbach | I don't know if there's an official answer to it, but with N4s in widespread use right now, I'd assume that it's a safe bet for quite a while | 07:09 |
| dholbach | especially with many of the automated tests running on N4s | 07:09 |
| extraymond | dholbach, Thx! That's good to know! | 07:10 |
| dholbach | in the worst case, you could sell it again on ebay and try to get a different one | 07:14 |
| dholbach | it'll be easier and easier over time with more ubuntu powered handsets getting on the market | 07:14 |
| extraymond | Will Nexus 7(2013) have the chance of having a longer supported life cycle? Since its newer. | 07:18 |
| * elfy hopes so | 07:21 | |
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| TenLeftFingers | rsalveti: ping | 08:41 |
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| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Poem in Your Pocket Day! :-D | 09:05 |
| social | Anyone had luck syncing calendar with google accounts? I keep getting 400 bad request and so on | 09:40 |
| popey | social: known bug, fix is in progress in vivid | 09:42 |
| social | popey: some bug to check, I have error : no datastores active check configuration | 09:43 |
| TenLeftFingers | I don't see the Reminders app listed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Avengers so which package should I run unity-bug against? | 09:58 |
| popey | http://launchpad.net/reminders-app | 09:58 |
| TenLeftFingers | popey: thanks | 10:00 |
| * popey edits the avengers page | 10:00 | |
| popey | well, i would if the wiki didn't 500 on me | 10:00 |
| TenLeftFingers | I feel special now :) | 10:00 |
| popey | Welcome to my world. | 10:01 |
| TenLeftFingers | After all that, I can't replicate the conditions for the bug right now... I went out of coverage while making a note and lost a good chunk of text. Too vague for a bug report? | 10:04 |
| popey | no, it should work offline | 10:05 |
| popey | if you can try and reproduce again that would be great | 10:05 |
| * davmor2 renames it avengers:assemble to see how many hits it gets :D | 10:06 | |
| TenLeftFingers | I think it works offline, but switch while making the note causes the issue. Okay, I'll wait until I can be more specific on exactly what happened. | 10:06 |
| popey | thanks TenLeftFingers | 10:09 |
| TenLeftFingers | popey: no problem | 10:10 |
| asis | hey there!! | 10:36 |
| asis | I wanted to install Ubuntu touch in my Android Phone ... But my phone is not listed .. So what should I need to do | 10:36 |
| asis | hello ?? | 10:39 |
| ahoneybun | asis: would have to port it | 10:42 |
| asis | I read about port .. But gets More Confused | 10:42 |
| asis | Any help would be appreciated :) | 10:42 |
| ahoneybun | asis: from what I understand if there is CyanogenMod for the phone the port is a lot more easy to do, but sadly I have no dev exp to do it | 10:50 |
| TenLeftFingers | Oh dear. Dekko has been "Saving to the sent folder" for a few minutes now with a rather long email. I may need to kill it. Is there some way to recover what I typed? | 11:08 |
| TenLeftFingers | Ah, it eventually returns and lets me copy out the text. I can live with that. | 11:10 |
| DanChapman | TenLeftFingers: So did it eventually just back out of the "Saving to sent folder" step? (that part has always been slightly broken IMO anyway) | 11:18 |
| DanChapman | But yes it should preserve the message in the composer except after successful submision or composer is closed, but you should get a prompt to save it for that. | 11:19 |
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| TenLeftFingers | DanChapman: yes, it did preserve the message. In the past I have killed the app and lost the message because it looked like it wasn't going to return but I think I could have saved those messages too had I waited a little longer. | 11:37 |
| social | popey: I have found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1439554 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1442931 is there some bug on which someone is working on? I'm not familiar with launchpad :( | 11:55 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1439554 in qtorganizer5-eds (Ubuntu) "Calendar app is not syncing anymore." [Undecided,Confirmed] | 11:55 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1442931 in sync-monitor (Ubuntu) "sync with google calendar not working" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 11:55 |
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| tedg | ogra_, FYI: https://errors.ubuntu.com/oops/731b18e6-eeb1-11e4-a911-fa163e22e467 | 12:49 |
| tedg | ogra_, Looks like an unset variable somewhere | 12:50 |
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| ogra_ | tedg, oh ... when did that happen ? | 13:15 |
| ogra_ | while sharing a pic from gallery ? | 13:15 |
| ogra_ | (clicking on the url-dispatcher part on the error tracker gets me to gallery logs) | 13:16 |
| extraymond | Hi! Does anyone know why I can't find those apps in uappexplorer on my emulator? | 13:26 |
| popey | extraymond: x86 emulator, and apps in the store are mostly armhf only | 13:27 |
| extraymond | Oh!! That makes sense... | 13:27 |
| popey | (unless they're pure qml or html5 in which case they're multi-arch) | 13:27 |
| popey | yeah | 13:27 |
| * popey pokes bzoltan and zbenjamin about fat package building.... | 13:27 | |
| extraymond | well, I'll try setup a arm one! Thx popey! | 13:28 |
| popey | np | 13:28 |
| popey | its uber slow, the armhf emulator | 13:28 |
| popey | like, slow as molasses | 13:28 |
| zbenjamin | popey: fat package building only with qmake based projects | 13:28 |
| popey | do we have to migrate zbenjamin ? | 13:28 |
| zbenjamin | popey: alternatively you can manually package it up | 13:29 |
| zbenjamin | popey: so basically its, building your project manually in every chroot and then make install it all into the same directory, for example /tmp/mypackage. Then edit the manifest.json file and list the architectures you included. Last step is run click build on the /tmp/mypackage folder | 13:31 |
| popey | hm. | 13:31 |
| popey | tvoss: any chance you can reply to my mail about terminal? | 13:31 |
| tvoss | popey, sure, in a meeting right now. did we talk with security, yet? | 13:32 |
| extraymond | popey: will the emulator run faster if we get in running on rpi2 or something arm? | 13:32 |
| popey | tvoss: no, I can do. | 13:33 |
| tvoss | popey, that would help me, thx | 13:33 |
| popey | ok | 13:34 |
| trickvi_ | would this be a good place to get help to add a new layout for the on screen keyboard? | 13:48 |
| trickvi_ | (and also a bit of help with the ubuntu sdk) | 13:48 |
| * trickvi_ is a bit confused what irc channel is best | 13:49 | |
| ogra_ | trickvi_, for phone stuff this is the right channel | 13:49 |
| ogra_ | trickvi_, and for the SDk and apps #ubuntu-app-devel is a good one | 13:50 |
| trickvi_ | ogra_: ah great, I just got my phone and want to add a keyboard layout, so I've set up the Ubuntu SDK imported the bzr repo but it talks about Maliit framework being missing, but there's nothing in the docs that I can find that tell me about this Maliit framework, I guess I have to import that project as well and build it and then I can add my layout | 13:51 |
| trickvi_ | ogra_: ok will direct SDK questions there | 13:51 |
| ogra_ | Elleo, ^^ | 13:51 |
| trickvi_ | (first time contributor here) | 13:52 |
| Elleo | trickvi_: heya; building the keyboard is a bit complicated; but if you put together a layout appropriate for your language I'll see about fixing up any (non-language specific) issues with it and get it merged | 13:54 |
| Elleo | trickvi_: there's a couple of existing MRs that should the sort of changes needed to add a new layout, I'll dig one out for you | 13:55 |
| Elleo | trickvi_: this is quite a good example: https://code.launchpad.net/~simosx/ubuntu-keyboard/add-greek-layout/+merge/254248 | 13:55 |
| trickvi_ | thanks Elleo, so I should just blindly make adjustments and rely on you to guide me when I screw up ;) | 13:55 |
| Elleo | trickvi_: there's also some half-finished docs here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KeyboardLayouts | 13:55 |
| trickvi_ | Elleo: that's the page I was looking for yesterday :) | 13:56 |
| Elleo | trickvi_: pretty much :) it's in our backlog to redesign the layout system to make it much easier to develop and test new layouts | 13:56 |
| trickvi_ | Elleo: if I'd make an awesome MR how long would it take for it to get from today to my phone? | 13:57 |
| Elleo | trickvi_: really only the layout files part of that is probably of use, since the template generator was never finished | 13:57 |
| trickvi_ | as in upstream and released | 13:57 |
| trickvi_ | (I can probably somehow put it on my phone -- but that comes later when I've seen that I've done it correctly) | 13:57 |
| Elleo | trickvi_: that depends a bit on when you finish it really; we typically build up a little queue of new layouts and then review and merge them all in a big batch; I'm currently going through a batch at the moment, so if you finish your layout within the next couple of weeks it'll probably get included in this group | 13:59 |
| Elleo | trickvi_: after that it'll be however long between it getting merged and there being another OTA update | 13:59 |
| Elleo | trickvi_: so probably a couple of months on average | 14:00 |
| trickvi_ | Elleo: I'll get this working as soon as possible :) | 14:00 |
| * trickvi_ is excited to be able to contribute | 14:00 | |
| Elleo | trickvi_: once its ready for merging there will be test packages that you can install manually though (if you don't mind making your device writable) | 14:00 |
| cwayne | rpadovani, ping! | 14:01 |
| trickvi_ | Elleo: I don't mind :) | 14:01 |
| trickvi_ | but I would like to test before destroying my phone | 14:01 |
| Elleo | trickvi_: after the next major OTA (when the phone switches to vivid) it'll be possible to try new layouts whilst still in read-only mode, but I'm not sure exactly when that'll be | 14:03 |
| rpadovani | cwayne, hey :-) | 14:03 |
| trickvi_ | OTA? acronym newbie | 14:05 |
| Elleo | trickvi_: oh sorry, Over The Air update | 14:05 |
| trickvi_ | as in "phones can install an update" | 14:07 |
| Elleo | trickvi_: yeah, every month or two we push an update to the overall system that you can install by just pressing the "Install" button on the updates page in system settngs | 14:08 |
| trickvi_ | right, so the icons that got lost in my last update won't get fixed until next OTA | 14:09 |
| jhodapp | popey, btw, updated my flo to image 186 and it boots with no issues | 14:11 |
| popey | jhodapp: yeah, it was my fault. apparmor taking ages to process all the 1222 apps I have installed | 14:11 |
| popey | sorry. | 14:11 |
| jhodapp | wow | 14:11 |
| jhodapp | good testing :) | 14:11 |
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| Elleo | trickvi_: I don't think that's necessarily related to this OTA specifically, it hasn't happened to everyone, but I do remember someone else mentioning it; I think it has something to do with the icon cache getting messed up in some way, so it might be possible to clear that cache and get it working | 14:16 |
| john-mcaleely | I think a system where having apps installed stalls boot is not 'your fault' popey :-) | 14:16 |
| Elleo | trickvi_: I'm not sure on the details of that though, I just vaguely remember someone else talking about it in the past | 14:16 |
| popey | john-mcaleely: fair! I mean, I should have known what it was because I've seen that before, and we filed a bug about it. | 14:16 |
| Elleo | popey: is that all the apps in the store on one device? | 14:17 |
| john-mcaleely | popey, is it on every OTA? | 14:17 |
| popey | yes Elleo | 14:17 |
| popey | john-mcaleely: no, I don't think so, only where there's some low level change like a kernel update I think | 14:17 |
| popey | jdstrand: knows better (of course) what triggers an apparmor profile regenerate | 14:17 |
| john-mcaleely | phew. that's less terrible then | 14:17 |
| Elleo | popey: cool | 14:18 |
| john-mcaleely | still terrible | 14:18 |
| popey | Elleo: it stresses the system update process a bit too | 14:18 |
| ogra_ | john-mcaleely, i blame popey for having 1222 apps installed | 14:18 |
| popey | doing OTA updates after a few days reveals a lot of app updates to pull in | 14:18 |
| popey | Wise. Who would do that!?! | 14:18 |
| john-mcaleely | perhaps he should only have 1221 | 14:18 |
| popey | <- this guy | 14:18 |
| john-mcaleely | that would be fine | 14:18 |
| Elleo | heh | 14:18 |
| popey | i can make it 1223 if you like | 14:18 |
| ogra_ | john-mcaleely, +1 | 14:18 |
| john-mcaleely | argh. no more apps! | 14:19 |
| john-mcaleely | +1 is back 1222 | 14:19 |
| ogra_ | :D | 14:19 |
| popey | http://popey.mooo.com/mirror/clicks/graph_clicks.png climbing climbing.... | 14:19 |
| john-mcaleely | what's the cwayne percentage? | 14:20 |
| ogra_ | tedg, is there a corresponding bug to that e.u.c report ... i would really like some context | 14:20 |
| cwayne | john-mcaleely, just added two more this morning | 14:21 |
| john-mcaleely | so popey is definately out of date then | 14:21 |
| popey | note that some don't install because they use 15.04 framework | 14:21 |
| abeato | jgdx, ping | 14:26 |
| jgdx | abeato, pong | 14:27 |
| Elleo | popey: for the sake of my curiousity could you try running this on your device with all the clicks? find /opt/click.ubuntu.com/ -name *.qml | cut -d '/' -f 4 | uniq | wc -l | 14:38 |
| Elleo | popey: it'll tell us how many apps have at least one qml file (rough estimate of native QML apps) | 14:38 |
| popey | Elleo: 322 | 14:39 |
| Elleo | popey: cool, thanks | 14:39 |
| cwayne | popey, PING | 14:39 |
| * cwayne makes his pings count | 14:40 | |
| popey | cwayne: PONG! | 14:40 |
| cwayne | popey, hey, is it generally possible to revert clicks int he store to a previously uploaded version? or does it generally need to be re-uploaded? | 14:40 |
| popey | cwayne: it is possible, but it's frowned upon | 14:41 |
| popey | cwayne: last time I pressed that button, beuno was surprised to discover its existence | 14:41 |
| popey | and we broke things | 14:41 |
| Elleo | heh | 14:41 |
| cwayne | ah | 14:42 |
| cwayne | hm | 14:42 |
| Elleo | presumably that'd also leave anyone who installed it with the later version, since it won't be seen as an update | 14:42 |
| popey | yeah, and you have to bump past that | 14:42 |
| popey | so, I'm reluctant to press that button without consulting beuno | 14:43 |
| cwayne | popey, Elleo thanks, was just curious :) | 14:54 |
| elopio | Kaleo: Elleo: we need a couple of quick reviews from you: | 14:59 |
| elopio | https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/ubuntu-keyboard/fix_base_class/+merge/257644 | 14:59 |
| elopio | https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/camera-app/fix_base_class/+merge/257658 | 14:59 |
| kenvandine | elopio, i hear the webbrowser-app has a custom test runner for running qml tests, we should do the same thing for settings | 15:03 |
| kenvandine | it would be much better than reorganizing our tree | 15:03 |
| Elleo | elopio: sure thing, will take a look in just a sec | 15:04 |
| elopio | kenvandine: as long as you can put the individual qml files under test, it's good for me. I would prefer everybody from your team to use the same style, but that's bonus points. | 15:06 |
| kenvandine | i assume that's how it works | 15:06 |
| kenvandine | oSoMoN_, ^^ | 15:06 |
| kenvandine | you can run your custom running on individual qml files? | 15:06 |
| kenvandine | s/running/runner | 15:06 |
| elopio | kenvandine: can you tell more about this runner? | 15:07 |
| kenvandine | not really, oSoMoN_ was telling me about it over breakfast :) | 15:07 |
| kenvandine | haven't looked at it | 15:07 |
| kenvandine | but he created it to solve the same type of problem | 15:08 |
| oSoMoN_ | kenvandine, elopio: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/webbrowser-app/trunk/view/head:/tests/unittests/qml/tst_QmlTests.cpp | 15:08 |
| elopio | ok. So the decission is yours. I just would like to understand it so I can help writing tests. | 15:08 |
| kenvandine | thx | 15:08 |
| social | how does one get devel images for touch device and how to install it? | 15:16 |
| Beliq | Hey guys, can I run Ubuntu SDK on mac ? | 15:18 |
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| davmor2 | Beliq: possibly not | 15:46 |
| davmor2 | social: what phone | 15:47 |
| social | davmor2: bq 4.5 | 15:48 |
| davmor2 | social: So you will get an automatic ota to vivid when it ready. | 15:49 |
| social | davmor2: is there a dev channel? some quckstart for devs especially system maintenance? | 15:51 |
| social | davmor2: in short I don't like some stuff on NetworkManager and I'd like to have that fixed best way usually is to grap latest devel release and start changing there | 15:52 |
| davmor2 | social: so there is a dev channel you can use system-image --switch command you can use to get on it | 15:57 |
| davmor2 | social: system-image-cli --switch sorry and the channel you want | 15:58 |
| social | davmor2: for NM package (it'll take me some time to get into apt package building) I can than just build it for the device and install ? | 15:58 |
| social | and in worst case I'll just reflash | 15:59 |
| davmor2 | social: possibly best to talk to cyphermox | 15:59 |
| davmor2 | social: there is almost certianly a ppa you can use | 15:59 |
| cyphermox | social: you can definitely rebuild packages on the phone directly if you have enough room to install the right packages | 16:00 |
| social | well I'd prefer to build elsewhere and just set up repo | 16:01 |
| cyphermox | you could do that, but I don't think you can just build NM for armhf on any random PPA | 16:02 |
| cyphermox | though you definitely can cross-build, etc. | 16:02 |
| cyphermox | social: if you have things you don't like and want changed, best is to file a bug about it so we all know about the issues | 16:02 |
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| brunch875 | Hello!! | 16:39 |
| cwayne | brunch875, Hello! | 16:39 |
| brunch875 | I hope you're having an excellent and sunny day, cwayne! | 16:39 |
| cwayne | brunch875, You as well! | 16:41 |
| cwayne | how pleasant | 16:41 |
| brunch875 | Ooof, ubuntu accounts are behaving badly on the desktop. I hope the issue doesn't spread to the phone. | 16:46 |
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| ogra_ | define "behaving badly" | 16:48 |
| brunch875 | well, on my desktop I can barely join IRC | 16:48 |
| brunch875 | and on my laptop, gmail doesn't work | 16:48 |
| ogra_ | IRC doesnt use any accounts from the system though | 16:49 |
| ogra_ | sounds more like you have some network issue | 16:49 |
| brunch875 | but that's very odd since both computers use the same net | 16:49 |
| brunch875 | and only started happening since vivid | 16:50 |
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| bqphone | what is the best video player app for ubuntu phone? i got a video through telegram and for some reason its not opening, i get open with and i see there only gallery app | 17:30 |
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| brunch875 | is ubot alive again? | 17:38 |
| brunch875 | !isitoutyet | 17:38 |
| ubot5 | Error: unresolvable <alias> to isitout-#ubuntu-release-party | 17:38 |
| bqphone | anyone knows a good video app that allows you to open videos you get throught Telegram app (ubuntu phone) | 17:47 |
| ogra_ | theoretically it should just open via the builtin mediaplayer | 17:49 |
| ogra_ | but you probably need to take a detour through the gallery app | 17:49 |
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| bqphone | i cant see it in gallery to try media | 17:57 |
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| Elleo | elopio_: is https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/ubuntu-keyboard/fix1444170-flake8 also ready for review? | 18:21 |
| Beliq | So the latest ubuntu touch has no home screen with the background like here http://cdn.liliputing.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/ubuntu-touch.jpg ? | 18:22 |
| Elleo | Beliq: nope, that changed quite a long time ago | 18:23 |
| Elleo | Beliq: all modern images have a light coloured background in the apps scope | 18:23 |
| Beliq | Ok, in that case is there a way to make transparent scopes ? | 18:24 |
| Elleo | Beliq: nope | 18:26 |
| bqphone | anyone knows a good video app that allows you to open videos you get throught Telegram app (ubuntu phone) | 18:26 |
| Beliq | Geez, I wish I could file a issue for that.... | 18:26 |
| popey | bqphone: i have a feeling we're missing a codec for that | 18:29 |
| * popey tests sending video to himself | 18:29 | |
| bqphone | update me w hen your test is done :) | 18:29 |
| popey | bqphone: https://bugs.launchpad.net/libqtelegram/+bug/1394958 | 18:29 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1394958 in Media Hub "recieved videos are displayed black" [High,Incomplete] | 18:29 |
| bqphone | will it be fixed when the phone update to 15.04? | 18:30 |
| popey | bqphone: just tested and a video I recorded on my iphone plays back fine here | 18:33 |
| bqphone | well i got a video from my sis | 18:33 |
| bqphone | i was able to send it to someone else | 18:33 |
| bqphone | but when i click open | 18:33 |
| bqphone | i get black screen with play button | 18:34 |
| bqphone | cant click on it though | 18:34 |
| popey | sounds like a bug | 18:34 |
| bqphone | how can i report a bug? | 18:35 |
| popey | https://bugs.launchpad.net/libqtelegram/+filebug | 18:35 |
| elopio_ | Elleo: yes, I've just added the checklist. | 18:35 |
| Elleo | elopio_: okay, cool; thanks | 18:36 |
| bqphone | submited thx for the help | 18:39 |
| kenvandine | pmcgowan, i filed bug 1450595 for that | 18:58 |
| ubot5 | bug 1450595 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "[bluetooth] Can't disconnect an unsupported device" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1450595 | 18:59 |
| pmcgowan | kenvandine, thanks | 19:03 |
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