=== chriadam|away is now known as chriadam [07:05] Hi! I'm pretty new to utouch, would like to know whether nexus 4 is gonna be supported in the future? Would like to buy a 2nd hand nexus 4 for development. [07:06] good morning [07:07] Is this the right channel to ask such question? [07:08] extraymond, it is the right channel yes [07:09] I don't know if there's an official answer to it, but with N4s in widespread use right now, I'd assume that it's a safe bet for quite a while [07:09] especially with many of the automated tests running on N4s [07:10] dholbach, Thx! That's good to know! [07:14] in the worst case, you could sell it again on ebay and try to get a different one [07:14] it'll be easier and easier over time with more ubuntu powered handsets getting on the market [07:18] Will Nexus 7(2013) have the chance of having a longer supported life cycle? Since its newer. [07:21] * elfy hopes so === ara is now known as Guest6469 === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [08:41] rsalveti: ping === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [09:05] Good morning all; happy Poem in Your Pocket Day! :-D [09:40] Anyone had luck syncing calendar with google accounts? I keep getting 400 bad request and so on [09:42] social: known bug, fix is in progress in vivid [09:43] popey: some bug to check, I have error : no datastores active check configuration [09:58] I don't see the Reminders app listed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Avengers so which package should I run unity-bug against? [09:58] http://launchpad.net/reminders-app [10:00] popey: thanks [10:00] * popey edits the avengers page [10:00] well, i would if the wiki didn't 500 on me [10:00] I feel special now :) [10:01] Welcome to my world. [10:04] After all that, I can't replicate the conditions for the bug right now... I went out of coverage while making a note and lost a good chunk of text. Too vague for a bug report? [10:05] no, it should work offline [10:05] if you can try and reproduce again that would be great [10:06] * davmor2 renames it avengers:assemble to see how many hits it gets :D [10:06] I think it works offline, but switch while making the note causes the issue. Okay, I'll wait until I can be more specific on exactly what happened. [10:09] thanks TenLeftFingers [10:10] popey: no problem [10:36] hey there!! [10:36] I wanted to install Ubuntu touch in my Android Phone ... But my phone is not listed .. So what should I need to do [10:39] hello ?? [10:42] asis: would have to port it [10:42] I read about port .. But gets More Confused [10:42] Any help would be appreciated :) [10:50] asis: from what I understand if there is CyanogenMod for the phone the port is a lot more easy to do, but sadly I have no dev exp to do it [11:08] Oh dear. Dekko has been "Saving to the sent folder" for a few minutes now with a rather long email. I may need to kill it. Is there some way to recover what I typed? [11:10] Ah, it eventually returns and lets me copy out the text. I can live with that. [11:18] TenLeftFingers: So did it eventually just back out of the "Saving to sent folder" step? (that part has always been slightly broken IMO anyway) [11:19] But yes it should preserve the message in the composer except after successful submision or composer is closed, but you should get a prompt to save it for that. === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:37] DanChapman: yes, it did preserve the message. In the past I have killed the app and lost the message because it looked like it wasn't going to return but I think I could have saved those messages too had I waited a little longer. [11:55] popey: I have found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1439554 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1442931 is there some bug on which someone is working on? I'm not familiar with launchpad :( [11:55] Ubuntu bug 1439554 in qtorganizer5-eds (Ubuntu) "Calendar app is not syncing anymore." [Undecided,Confirmed] [11:55] Ubuntu bug 1442931 in sync-monitor (Ubuntu) "sync with google calendar not working" [Undecided,Confirmed] === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [12:49] ogra_, FYI: https://errors.ubuntu.com/oops/731b18e6-eeb1-11e4-a911-fa163e22e467 [12:50] ogra_, Looks like an unset variable somewhere === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [13:15] tedg, oh ... when did that happen ? [13:15] while sharing a pic from gallery ? [13:16] (clicking on the url-dispatcher part on the error tracker gets me to gallery logs) [13:26] Hi! Does anyone know why I can't find those apps in uappexplorer on my emulator? [13:27] extraymond: x86 emulator, and apps in the store are mostly armhf only [13:27] Oh!! That makes sense... [13:27] (unless they're pure qml or html5 in which case they're multi-arch) [13:27] yeah [13:27] * popey pokes bzoltan and zbenjamin about fat package building.... [13:28] well, I'll try setup a arm one! Thx popey! [13:28] np [13:28] its uber slow, the armhf emulator [13:28] like, slow as molasses [13:28] popey: fat package building only with qmake based projects [13:28] do we have to migrate zbenjamin ? [13:29] popey: alternatively you can manually package it up [13:31] popey: so basically its, building your project manually in every chroot and then make install it all into the same directory, for example /tmp/mypackage. Then edit the manifest.json file and list the architectures you included. Last step is run click build on the /tmp/mypackage folder [13:31] hm. [13:31] tvoss: any chance you can reply to my mail about terminal? [13:32] popey, sure, in a meeting right now. did we talk with security, yet? [13:32] popey: will the emulator run faster if we get in running on rpi2 or something arm? [13:33] tvoss: no, I can do. [13:33] popey, that would help me, thx [13:34] ok [13:48] would this be a good place to get help to add a new layout for the on screen keyboard? [13:48] (and also a bit of help with the ubuntu sdk) [13:49] * trickvi_ is a bit confused what irc channel is best [13:49] trickvi_, for phone stuff this is the right channel [13:50] trickvi_, and for the SDk and apps #ubuntu-app-devel is a good one [13:51] ogra_: ah great, I just got my phone and want to add a keyboard layout, so I've set up the Ubuntu SDK imported the bzr repo but it talks about Maliit framework being missing, but there's nothing in the docs that I can find that tell me about this Maliit framework, I guess I have to import that project as well and build it and then I can add my layout [13:51] ogra_: ok will direct SDK questions there [13:51] Elleo, ^^ [13:52] (first time contributor here) [13:54] trickvi_: heya; building the keyboard is a bit complicated; but if you put together a layout appropriate for your language I'll see about fixing up any (non-language specific) issues with it and get it merged [13:55] trickvi_: there's a couple of existing MRs that should the sort of changes needed to add a new layout, I'll dig one out for you [13:55] trickvi_: this is quite a good example: https://code.launchpad.net/~simosx/ubuntu-keyboard/add-greek-layout/+merge/254248 [13:55] thanks Elleo, so I should just blindly make adjustments and rely on you to guide me when I screw up ;) [13:55] trickvi_: there's also some half-finished docs here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KeyboardLayouts [13:56] Elleo: that's the page I was looking for yesterday :) [13:56] trickvi_: pretty much :) it's in our backlog to redesign the layout system to make it much easier to develop and test new layouts [13:57] Elleo: if I'd make an awesome MR how long would it take for it to get from today to my phone? [13:57] trickvi_: really only the layout files part of that is probably of use, since the template generator was never finished [13:57] as in upstream and released [13:57] (I can probably somehow put it on my phone -- but that comes later when I've seen that I've done it correctly) [13:59] trickvi_: that depends a bit on when you finish it really; we typically build up a little queue of new layouts and then review and merge them all in a big batch; I'm currently going through a batch at the moment, so if you finish your layout within the next couple of weeks it'll probably get included in this group [13:59] trickvi_: after that it'll be however long between it getting merged and there being another OTA update [14:00] trickvi_: so probably a couple of months on average [14:00] Elleo: I'll get this working as soon as possible :) [14:00] * trickvi_ is excited to be able to contribute [14:00] trickvi_: once its ready for merging there will be test packages that you can install manually though (if you don't mind making your device writable) [14:01] rpadovani, ping! [14:01] Elleo: I don't mind :) [14:01] but I would like to test before destroying my phone [14:03] trickvi_: after the next major OTA (when the phone switches to vivid) it'll be possible to try new layouts whilst still in read-only mode, but I'm not sure exactly when that'll be [14:03] cwayne, hey :-) [14:05] OTA? acronym newbie [14:05] trickvi_: oh sorry, Over The Air update [14:07] as in "phones can install an update" [14:08] trickvi_: yeah, every month or two we push an update to the overall system that you can install by just pressing the "Install" button on the updates page in system settngs [14:09] right, so the icons that got lost in my last update won't get fixed until next OTA [14:11] popey, btw, updated my flo to image 186 and it boots with no issues [14:11] jhodapp: yeah, it was my fault. apparmor taking ages to process all the 1222 apps I have installed [14:11] sorry. [14:11] wow [14:11] good testing :) === zyga is now known as zyga-afk [14:16] trickvi_: I don't think that's necessarily related to this OTA specifically, it hasn't happened to everyone, but I do remember someone else mentioning it; I think it has something to do with the icon cache getting messed up in some way, so it might be possible to clear that cache and get it working [14:16] I think a system where having apps installed stalls boot is not 'your fault' popey :-) [14:16] trickvi_: I'm not sure on the details of that though, I just vaguely remember someone else talking about it in the past [14:16] john-mcaleely: fair! I mean, I should have known what it was because I've seen that before, and we filed a bug about it. [14:17] popey: is that all the apps in the store on one device? [14:17] popey, is it on every OTA? [14:17] yes Elleo [14:17] john-mcaleely: no, I don't think so, only where there's some low level change like a kernel update I think [14:17] jdstrand: knows better (of course) what triggers an apparmor profile regenerate [14:17] phew. that's less terrible then [14:18] popey: cool [14:18] still terrible [14:18] Elleo: it stresses the system update process a bit too [14:18] john-mcaleely, i blame popey for having 1222 apps installed [14:18] doing OTA updates after a few days reveals a lot of app updates to pull in [14:18] Wise. Who would do that!?! [14:18] perhaps he should only have 1221 [14:18] <- this guy [14:18] that would be fine [14:18] heh [14:18] i can make it 1223 if you like [14:18] john-mcaleely, +1 [14:19] argh. no more apps! [14:19] +1 is back 1222 [14:19] :D [14:19] http://popey.mooo.com/mirror/clicks/graph_clicks.png climbing climbing.... [14:20] what's the cwayne percentage? [14:20] tedg, is there a corresponding bug to that e.u.c report ... i would really like some context [14:21] john-mcaleely, just added two more this morning [14:21] so popey is definately out of date then [14:21] note that some don't install because they use 15.04 framework [14:26] jgdx, ping [14:27] abeato, pong [14:38] popey: for the sake of my curiousity could you try running this on your device with all the clicks? find /opt/click.ubuntu.com/ -name *.qml | cut -d '/' -f 4 | uniq | wc -l [14:38] popey: it'll tell us how many apps have at least one qml file (rough estimate of native QML apps) [14:39] Elleo: 322 [14:39] popey: cool, thanks [14:39] popey, PING [14:40] * cwayne makes his pings count [14:40] cwayne: PONG! [14:40] popey, hey, is it generally possible to revert clicks int he store to a previously uploaded version? or does it generally need to be re-uploaded? [14:41] cwayne: it is possible, but it's frowned upon [14:41] cwayne: last time I pressed that button, beuno was surprised to discover its existence [14:41] and we broke things [14:41] heh [14:42] ah [14:42] hm [14:42] presumably that'd also leave anyone who installed it with the later version, since it won't be seen as an update [14:42] yeah, and you have to bump past that [14:43] so, I'm reluctant to press that button without consulting beuno [14:54] popey, Elleo thanks, was just curious :) [14:59] Kaleo: Elleo: we need a couple of quick reviews from you: [14:59] https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/ubuntu-keyboard/fix_base_class/+merge/257644 [14:59] https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/camera-app/fix_base_class/+merge/257658 [15:03] elopio, i hear the webbrowser-app has a custom test runner for running qml tests, we should do the same thing for settings [15:03] it would be much better than reorganizing our tree [15:04] elopio: sure thing, will take a look in just a sec [15:06] kenvandine: as long as you can put the individual qml files under test, it's good for me. I would prefer everybody from your team to use the same style, but that's bonus points. [15:06] i assume that's how it works [15:06] oSoMoN_, ^^ [15:06] you can run your custom running on individual qml files? [15:06] s/running/runner [15:07] kenvandine: can you tell more about this runner? [15:07] not really, oSoMoN_ was telling me about it over breakfast :) [15:07] haven't looked at it [15:08] but he created it to solve the same type of problem [15:08] kenvandine, elopio: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/webbrowser-app/trunk/view/head:/tests/unittests/qml/tst_QmlTests.cpp [15:08] ok. So the decission is yours. I just would like to understand it so I can help writing tests. [15:08] thx [15:16] how does one get devel images for touch device and how to install it? [15:18] Hey guys, can I run Ubuntu SDK on mac ? === dandrader is now known as dandrader|lunch [15:46] Beliq: possibly not [15:47] social: what phone [15:48] davmor2: bq 4.5 [15:49] social: So you will get an automatic ota to vivid when it ready. [15:51] davmor2: is there a dev channel? some quckstart for devs especially system maintenance? [15:52] davmor2: in short I don't like some stuff on NetworkManager and I'd like to have that fixed best way usually is to grap latest devel release and start changing there [15:57] social: so there is a dev channel you can use system-image --switch command you can use to get on it [15:58] social: system-image-cli --switch sorry and the channel you want [15:58] davmor2: for NM package (it'll take me some time to get into apt package building) I can than just build it for the device and install ? [15:59] and in worst case I'll just reflash [15:59] social: possibly best to talk to cyphermox [15:59] social: there is almost certianly a ppa you can use [16:00] social: you can definitely rebuild packages on the phone directly if you have enough room to install the right packages [16:01] well I'd prefer to build elsewhere and just set up repo [16:02] you could do that, but I don't think you can just build NM for armhf on any random PPA [16:02] though you definitely can cross-build, etc. [16:02] social: if you have things you don't like and want changed, best is to file a bug about it so we all know about the issues === dandrader|lunch is now known as dandrader [16:39] Hello!! [16:39] brunch875, Hello! [16:39] I hope you're having an excellent and sunny day, cwayne! [16:41] brunch875, You as well! [16:41] how pleasant [16:46] Ooof, ubuntu accounts are behaving badly on the desktop. I hope the issue doesn't spread to the phone. === oSoMoN__ is now known as oSoMoN [16:48] define "behaving badly" [16:48] well, on my desktop I can barely join IRC [16:48] and on my laptop, gmail doesn't work [16:49] IRC doesnt use any accounts from the system though [16:49] sounds more like you have some network issue [16:49] but that's very odd since both computers use the same net [16:50] and only started happening since vivid === zyga-afk is now known as zyga === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD === mibofra is now known as Guest34708 [17:30] what is the best video player app for ubuntu phone? i got a video through telegram and for some reason its not opening, i get open with and i see there only gallery app === Guest34708 is now known as mibofra === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [17:38] is ubot alive again? [17:38] !isitoutyet [17:38] Error: unresolvable to isitout-#ubuntu-release-party [17:47] anyone knows a good video app that allows you to open videos you get throught Telegram app (ubuntu phone) [17:49] theoretically it should just open via the builtin mediaplayer [17:49] but you probably need to take a detour through the gallery app === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [17:57] i cant see it in gallery to try media === davmor2_ is now known as davmor2 [18:21] elopio_: is https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/ubuntu-keyboard/fix1444170-flake8 also ready for review? [18:22] So the latest ubuntu touch has no home screen with the background like here http://cdn.liliputing.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/ubuntu-touch.jpg ? [18:23] Beliq: nope, that changed quite a long time ago [18:23] Beliq: all modern images have a light coloured background in the apps scope [18:24] Ok, in that case is there a way to make transparent scopes ? [18:26] Beliq: nope [18:26] anyone knows a good video app that allows you to open videos you get throught Telegram app (ubuntu phone) [18:26] Geez, I wish I could file a issue for that.... [18:29] bqphone: i have a feeling we're missing a codec for that [18:29] * popey tests sending video to himself [18:29] update me w hen your test is done :) [18:29] bqphone: https://bugs.launchpad.net/libqtelegram/+bug/1394958 [18:29] Ubuntu bug 1394958 in Media Hub "recieved videos are displayed black" [High,Incomplete] [18:30] will it be fixed when the phone update to 15.04? [18:33] bqphone: just tested and a video I recorded on my iphone plays back fine here [18:33] well i got a video from my sis [18:33] i was able to send it to someone else [18:33] but when i click open [18:34] i get black screen with play button [18:34] cant click on it though [18:34] sounds like a bug [18:35] how can i report a bug? [18:35] https://bugs.launchpad.net/libqtelegram/+filebug [18:35] Elleo: yes, I've just added the checklist. [18:36] elopio_: okay, cool; thanks [18:39] submited thx for the help [18:58] pmcgowan, i filed bug 1450595 for that [18:59] bug 1450595 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "[bluetooth] Can't disconnect an unsupported device" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1450595 [19:03] kenvandine, thanks === rsalveti_ is now known as rsalveti === \b is now known as benonsoftware === aaron__ is now known as ahoneybun