/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/30/#ubuntu-za.txt

barrydkMore almal05:35
Kiloshi barrydk  inetpro  pieter2627  and other za peeps06:33
pieter2627hi Kilos 06:33
ThatGraemeGuymornings06:36
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy  06:36
inetprogood mornings07:08
Kilosmorning inetpro  07:08
Kiloshaha its not done until its done!07:08
Kilosi had a terrible dream last night, got an email in weird form, like a scanned page with complaints kinda added in blotches all over the page,  saying please change the name of ubuntu-africa as it belonged to them, but search as i might i could not see who it came from07:15
Kiloswoke up very angry07:16
ThatGraemeGuyo_O07:17
ThatGraemeGuyyou need a holiday07:17
Kilosyeah07:17
Kiloswhy would synaptic give this message but still do installs , updates etc perfectly07:37
Kilossynaptic:19491): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_child_watch_add_full: assertion 'pid > 0' failed07:38
ThatGraemeGuyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/128254207:42
ThatGraemeGuyfirst hit on google for "GLib-CRITICAL **: g_child_watch_add_full: assertion 'pid > 0' failed"07:42
Kilosty ThatGraemeGuy  i just get wow google cant find anything07:42
ThatGraemeGuygoogle actually says that?07:43
Kilosyeah07:43
ThatGraemeGuyare you sure you're using google07:44
ThatGraemeGuypaste the url that says that07:44
Kilosusinmg ibid to google07:44
Kilosusing07:44
Kilosmaybe its the bot07:44
ThatGraemeGuyugh07:44
Kilos<Kilos> google what is synaptic:19491): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_child_watch_add_full: assertion 'pid > 0' failed07:44
Kilos[30/04/2015 09:41] <QA> Wow! Google couldn't find anything07:44
Kiloshehe07:44
ThatGraemeGuyuse google like a normal person07:45
Kiloswhew then i have to search 500 or more pages not the first 407:45
ThatGraemeGuyok never mind07:45
ThatGraemeGuyI'm a terrible sucker, I never learn to just stfu07:46
Kilosno man its your community spirit that drives you to help idiots07:46
Kilosthats at least a good sign07:47
Kiloshi psydroid  07:47
psydroidhi Kilos07:47
psydroidI'm in Poland now07:47
Kilosholiday?07:48
psydroidyes, for a week07:48
Kilosnice, enjoy it07:48
psydroidyesterday I went to visit my colleagues at my old company07:48
psydroidthanks07:48
psydroidand one of them told me my current manager used to be his team lead07:49
Kilosah07:49
psydroidI will be going to Berlin later today or tomorrow morning07:50
Kilosoh ThatGraemeGuy  are you guys doing ipv6 already? i tested here http://www.test-ipv6.com07:56
Kilosnow i need to rev telkom07:56
ThatGraemeGuynot as far as i know07:56
Kiloshehe07:57
SquirmMorning08:05
Kiloshi Squirm  08:05
stickyboyI just finished Bill Bryson's A Short History of Nearly Everything.08:51
stickyboySo amazing!08:51
stickyboypsydroid: Berlin <308:51
Kilosgood morning stickyboy  CuttingEdge  08:51
CuttingEdgegreetings08:52
ThatGraemeGuylo CuttingEdge 10:35
ThatGraemeGuyto what do we owe the privilege? ;-p10:36
CuttingEdgeThatGraemeGuy: its thursday ;)10:37
CuttingEdge(i'm also trying to be a little more active within the community)10:37
ThatGraemeGuyactually its friday for those of us on the normal mon-fri grind10:38
ThatGraemeGuypublic holidays ftw10:38
CuttingEdgeyeah .. i thought tuesday was monday10:38
CuttingEdgeand monday felt like sunday :/10:38
Kiloslol10:39
Kilosrestart needed wbb10:41
magespawngood afternoon12:22
Kiloshi magespawn  12:23
magespawnhow are things?12:23
Kilosok ty and you?12:23
magespawnpeachy12:23
Kiloslol12:23
magespawnlearning new things, so that is good12:23
Kilosalways12:24
magespawnjust learn't how to mac-telnet into a mikrotik router and enable the ethernet port12:24
Kilossjoe12:25
magespawnnot so difficult, just followed the instructions, but very useful12:31
Kilosyeah but nowq you know how12:31
Kilosrouters are terrible things to me12:31
magespawnhopefully i can remember it too12:32
magespawnyou can download the mikrotik router-os and install it on a pc to practice12:32
Kilosnice12:32
magespawnmikrotik are also not like other routers12:32
magespawnhttp://www.mikrotik.com/ if you want to have a gander12:33
Kilosnono im happy now with a switch the between pcs here12:34
Kilosand sharing 3g connection is so easy12:34
Kilosrouter drove me nuts12:35
Kilosnice to use things that jusr word12:38
Kilosjust12:38
magespawni am fairly used to 'normal' routers, but the mikrotik and cisco are some next level stuff12:39
Kilosyeah well keep learning, you need it ahead12:39
magespawnbasically you connect to the device through its mac address rather than ip address12:41
Kilosi read a bit about that in the i-net+ study guide im working through12:42
Kilosif 2 pcs ahre a connection does the second pc alos fall under the main pcs firewall or must it have its own firewall13:19
Kiloswow13:19
Kilosif 2 pcs are sharing13:19
Kilosmy keyboard has been drinking again13:20
pieter2627Kilos: is your kb old enough to drink :p How are they connected/sharing?13:23
Kilosya sharing this ones 3g13:26
Kilosim sure the kb sneaks a dop when im away13:27
Kiloseth connection through a switch13:28
magespawnthe first fire wall might only be checking the traffic that come to it from the net, generally local settings are more relaxed than internet setting13:39
magespawnhaving said that, on linux i am not actually sure13:39
magespawnanyway, pack up time for me, chat later13:40
Kilosall i want to firewall is from the net anyway. i totally trust me13:40
Kilosohi superfly  13:49
ThatGraemeGuy<Kilos> [15:40:45] all i want to firewall is from the net anyway. i totally trust me13:55
ThatGraemeGuyin my experience you probably shouldn't13:55
ThatGraemeGuy:-p13:55
Kiloshahaha13:57
Kilosoi irc dropped me14:50
Kilosgrrr14:50
captinehi all15:03
Kiloshi captine  15:04
Kiloshows you?15:04
captinedoing ok.  thanks for asking.  and you?15:04
Kilosgood ty15:05
captineu see the interesting things with Microsoft.  They have their coding tool working on Mac and Ubuntu to be able to develope and integrate with azure... even has built in GIT support15:05
captineDocker containers even working for them now... so one can possibly run a microsoft platform application (pastel or something) in a container on a docker server.... i think..15:06
captinegotto run.  daughter not sleeping.  brb15:06
Kiloslol15:06
Kilosw0000t canonical is happy with our site15:12
Kilosour africa site that is15:13
Kiloswb pieter2627  15:32
* Kilos waits for comments from pro15:33
captineKilos, where did you see Canonical being happy? they mail you?16:09
Kilosyeah16:09
Kiloswe can use the ubuntu trademark freely16:10
Kilosand here is the comment about the site16:10
KilosWe think your website is fantastic, 16:10
* Kilos bows to the site building team16:11
captineawesome.  well done all16:28
Kilosoi the splits have got us17:56
inetprogood evening18:18
inetproKilos: what's up?18:18
Kiloshi inetpro  18:18
inetproKilos: well done!! Again18:20
Kilosnot me man, you guys18:20
inetprono you18:20
Kilosno18:20
inetproKilos: yes18:21
inetprobut to be honest, I agree with ThatGraemeGuy, if I was you I would not trust you :-)18:21
Kilosoh when you update a wiki page do you make a ps: at the bottom18:21
Kiloslol18:21
Kiloshahaha you okes sound like tara, she says im a random cannon18:22
inetprops: at the bottom?18:22
inetprowhere do you get that?18:22
Kilosps as when you add something at the end of a letter18:23
inetprowhy?18:23
Kiloswhy what18:23
inetprowhy would you want a ps: at the bottom?18:23
Kiloswell times and events change the staus18:24
Kilosstatus18:24
inetprouh18:24
* inetpro is lost18:24
Kilosyou get notifications18:24
Kilosfly was right you are getting old and get confused and lost easy18:25
inetproKilos: please go back and draft the full picture before asking funny questions out of context18:26
Kiloslol18:26
Kilosi updated my wiki page man18:26
Kiloswith ps at the bottom18:26
inetproyou see, there's one missing piece of info already... next?18:27
Kilosuh18:27
Kilosmy wiki page says it notifies you18:28
captineKilos, better a random cannon than a loose cannon :)18:28
inetproKilos: next?18:28
Kilosoh ya she said loose18:28
captinelol18:29
captineso u bashing around in the ship.. :)18:29
Kilosnext she said go blow something up18:29
Kilosinetpro  did you read your mail?18:30
Kilosi know you dont read mails often18:30
inetproKilos: yes, next?18:30
Kilosoh my must there be more18:30
Kilos?18:30
* inetpro still doesn't get the context of the question18:30
inetpromaybe someone else does, but I don't18:31
Kiloseish18:31
Kilosnm that now18:31
inetpronm?18:31
Kiloswont you write the team reports in simple18:31
Kilosnm=never mind18:32
Kilosthe how to for team reports18:32
inetprooh I will do the team reports before midnight... but please explain your question so I can understand18:33
inetprono need to explain the team reports, anyone can just do it18:33
Kilosnono18:33
Kilosthat top thing is too much for me18:33
Kilosi looked again today, i wanted to do it for you18:34
Kiloswrite the how to in simple and i can maybe help you out sometimes18:34
Kiloswhat question are you talking about sir pro18:35
inetpro04/30 20:21:37 <Kilos> oh when you update a wiki page do you make a ps: at the bottom18:35
Kilosai!18:35
inetproplease rephrase18:35
Kiloshmm...18:35
Kilosok lets say you do a wiki page for membership right18:36
Kilosare you with me18:36
Kilos?18:36
Kilosthen months later things have changed right?18:37
inetproyes?18:37
Kilosto update your wiki page do you ps at the bottom or just add in as i did18:38
inetproKilos: it depends18:39
Kilosor do you change the whole thing to suit present circumstances18:39
Kiloson?18:40
Kiloshi kulelu88  18:47
kulelu88o/18:47
inetprowb kulelu8818:49
inetproKilos: 1. in the context of your question PS = postscript18:49
inetprowhich is either, 18:49
inetproa) an additional remark at the end of a letter, after the signature and introduced by ‘PS’, or18:49
inetprob) an extra piece of information about an event that is added after it has happened18:49
inetproam I right?18:50
Kilosyessir18:50
inetpro2. a wiki page is just another web page18:50
kulelu88thank you Sir18:50
inetproKilos: 3. if you want the reader to see all historic information, then you probably want to add new information in such a way that it becomes clear that it is new information... how you do that is up to you and yourself, if it's your own page18:50
inetproKilos: 4. if it is not your own page, then you probably want to follow the same style as the original authors18:51
inetproKilos: 5. having said all the above, we are talking about a wiki here... all info is version controlled18:51
Kilosnono i do nothing without first checking with the bosses18:51
Kilosjust read my wiki and see if its ok please18:52
Kilossigh18:52
inetproKilos: put yourself in the shoes of a new reader18:53
Kilosi cant, they are all clever18:53
inetproai!18:53
Kilosand know how to rtfs18:53
inetproKilos: did you double-check your email address?18:55
Kilossee, there is method in my madness18:57
inetprouh!?18:57
Kilosi should have just asked you to proof read for me hey?18:58
Kilosif i knew how i would have added the new parts in a different colour18:59
Kilosbut i dont want to know now18:59
Kiloshi Guest61971  19:01
guest653hi Kilos19:01
Kilosand guest653  19:01
Kilosthat you rusty?19:01
* guest653 is AndrewLSD via mobile19:01
Kilosohi there cant mobile do the nick thing19:02
=== guest653 is now known as andrewlsd
Kiloswell done and wb19:04
captinehi andrewlsd 19:04
andrewlsdty19:05
andrewlsdhi captine19:05
Kilosandrewlsd  why you on mobile19:05
captinethe #ubuntu channel can be frustrating.  half my chat client just has the details of those leaving and joining... very annoying19:05
Kiloslol19:06
andrewlsdmy IRC client ignores those19:06
Kilosi dont even go there anymore19:06
Kilosoh ya captine  you can turn that off19:06
andrewlsdohi superfly19:07
superflysup andrewlsd19:07
captinethanks Kilos.  am looking into it.  using hexchat19:08
andrewlsdI've just been in an hour long hangout, so am all social-networked out.  see you another time (for longer)19:09
Kilossleep tight19:09
Kilosai!19:09
superflyAnyone seen Microsoft VisualStudio Code for Linux?19:13
superflyhttps://code.visualstudio.com/download19:13
inetprosuperfly: yes19:14
inetproI mean I've seen it but have not installed it19:15
inetprooh btw Kilos, it's done now19:16
Kilosgood man ty19:16
Kilosjust got the trello notifications19:17
Kilosdid you write a simple how to19:17
Kilosdid you see the loco teams today19:19
Kilosthey using our idea to get other groups in one plce19:19
Kiloswell cheche anyway19:20
inetproKilos: the howto is simple19:20
Kilosour as in you and fly19:20
Kilosnot as it was i get lost when it says look if there is a similar page19:21
Kilosi need a do this do that howto19:21
Kiloslike mazal did the coc thing19:21
inetproKilos: we can look into adding more details in the monthly report tomorrow19:24
Kilosnono man19:25
Kilosi just thought i would try help you out19:25
Kilosi actually need the correct link to the meetings logs19:26
Kilosi get lost following http://irclogs.ubuntu.com19:26
inetproKilos: the monthly report for this month is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/TeamReports/15/March19:26
Kilosi want to get all fly used to command maaz19:26
Kilosso i can hand them to someone else to chair19:27
Kilosafrica  that is19:27
Kilosty19:27
inetproMaaz: help meeting19:28
Maazinetpro: Take minutes of an IRC Meeting. You can use it like this:19:28
Maaz  (start | end) meeting [about <title>]19:28
Maaz  I am <True Name>19:28
Maaz  topic <topic>19:28
Maaz  (agreed | idea | accepted | rejected) <statement>19:28
Maaz  minutes so far19:28
Maaz  meeting title is <title>19:28
inetproKilos: ^^19:28
inetprowhat more do you need?19:28
Kilossjoe was that all19:28
inetproyes19:28
Kilosoh yay ill just tell them to QA help meeting19:29
Kiloshehe19:29
inetproKilos: remember19:29
Kilosill try19:29
inetproI have not set up proper logging and,19:30
Kilosoh my19:30
inetproI have not set up a web page for accessing the logs yet19:30
Kilosoh my19:30
inetproyou really want me to do it now?19:31
Kilosno19:31
inetprothank you19:31
Kiloswill still be some weeks i think19:31
Kilosi also like just chatting to you at times too you know19:32
inetproai!19:32
Kiloswithout being told to rtfs19:32
inetpro:-)19:32
Kiloshehe19:33
Kilosaw he left19:33
inetprohmm.. who do we have here?19:34
inetprowb theblazehen19:34
Kiloswb theblazehen  19:35
Kilostoo busy to chat to his friends looks like19:35
=== MaNI2 is now known as MaNI
inetprobtw Kilos, no more time left to celebrate the release of Vivid19:36
Kilosya i see its by done 19:37
Kiloswe have time for 16.04 release19:37
Kilosthen there will be dvds to hand around19:37
Kilostemp between 7 and 9°c tommorrow morning inetpro  19:38
Kilosdress warm on the boney19:39
inetproat #ubuntu-za we are not very good at celebrating a release... something we need to work on19:39
inetproluckily it's holiday tomorrow19:39
Kilosmaybe cuttingedge will like that19:39
Kiloswe need to entice maia back into the fold19:40
Kiloswhat can we promise her other than permanent chair19:41
Kilosdont talk now gotta take bp19:41
inetprobp?19:44
Kilosblood pressure19:46
Kilosfelt bit week last 2 days19:46
Kilossis checked bp this morning 149/9919:46
inetproai!19:47
Kilosnow we fixing it with magic19:47
Kilos131/92 now19:47
inetprohow do you bring it down so quick?19:48
inetprobtw, it's weak, not week19:49
Kilos1 clove garlic morning and night and right hand on south pole of magnet for 15 mins19:49
Kilosthat too ya19:49
Kilosshould be normal by tomorrow night19:50
inetprohmm... ok19:50
Kilosyou think im just a pretty face19:50
inetprodon't take me so serious man19:51
Kiloslol19:51
inetprono need to stress like that19:51
Kiloswhy?19:52
inetprolook at you, you almost pass out with the bp of yours19:52
inetproall my fault19:52
Kilosi still took sheep to and from grazing19:53
Kilosno man not you19:53
Kilostomorrow im better and you will still be you19:53
inetproai!19:53
* inetpro gotta go sleep early for a change19:54
inetprogood night19:54
Kilosya but no 2 am wake up19:54
Kilossleep tight my friend ty for everything19:54
Kiloswow gonna rain19:55
Kilosone whole night and no rtfs19:55
Kiloshmm...20:22
Kilosi wonder who this graham is20:23
Kilosnight all. sleep tight20:27
smileSlaapwel :)21:26

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