[05:35] <barrydk> More almal
[06:33] <Kilos> hi barrydk  inetpro  pieter2627  and other za peeps
[06:33] <pieter2627> hi Kilos 
[06:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[06:36] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  
[07:08] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:08] <Kilos> morning inetpro  
[07:08] <Kilos> haha its not done until its done!
[07:15] <Kilos> i had a terrible dream last night, got an email in weird form, like a scanned page with complaints kinda added in blotches all over the page,  saying please change the name of ubuntu-africa as it belonged to them, but search as i might i could not see who it came from
[07:16] <Kilos> woke up very angry
[07:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> o_O
[07:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> you need a holiday
[07:17] <Kilos> yeah
[07:37] <Kilos> why would synaptic give this message but still do installs , updates etc perfectly
[07:38] <Kilos> synaptic:19491): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_child_watch_add_full: assertion 'pid > 0' failed
[07:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/1282542
[07:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> first hit on google for "GLib-CRITICAL **: g_child_watch_add_full: assertion 'pid > 0' failed"
[07:42] <Kilos> ty ThatGraemeGuy  i just get wow google cant find anything
[07:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> google actually says that?
[07:43] <Kilos> yeah
[07:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> are you sure you're using google
[07:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> paste the url that says that
[07:44] <Kilos> usinmg ibid to google
[07:44] <Kilos> using
[07:44] <Kilos> maybe its the bot
[07:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> ugh
 google what is synaptic:19491): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_child_watch_add_full: assertion 'pid > 0' failed
[07:44] <Kilos> [30/04/2015 09:41] <QA> Wow! Google couldn't find anything
[07:44] <Kilos> hehe
[07:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> use google like a normal person
[07:45] <Kilos> whew then i have to search 500 or more pages not the first 4
[07:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> ok never mind
[07:46] <ThatGraemeGuy> I'm a terrible sucker, I never learn to just stfu
[07:46] <Kilos> no man its your community spirit that drives you to help idiots
[07:47] <Kilos> thats at least a good sign
[07:47] <Kilos> hi psydroid  
[07:47] <psydroid> hi Kilos
[07:47] <psydroid> I'm in Poland now
[07:48] <Kilos> holiday?
[07:48] <psydroid> yes, for a week
[07:48] <Kilos> nice, enjoy it
[07:48] <psydroid> yesterday I went to visit my colleagues at my old company
[07:48] <psydroid> thanks
[07:49] <psydroid> and one of them told me my current manager used to be his team lead
[07:49] <Kilos> ah
[07:50] <psydroid> I will be going to Berlin later today or tomorrow morning
[07:56] <Kilos> oh ThatGraemeGuy  are you guys doing ipv6 already? i tested here http://www.test-ipv6.com
[07:56] <Kilos> now i need to rev telkom
[07:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> not as far as i know
[07:57] <Kilos> hehe
[08:05] <Squirm> Morning
[08:05] <Kilos> hi Squirm  
[08:51] <stickyboy> I just finished Bill Bryson's A Short History of Nearly Everything.
[08:51] <stickyboy> So amazing!
[08:51] <stickyboy> psydroid: Berlin <3
[08:51] <Kilos> good morning stickyboy  CuttingEdge  
[08:52] <CuttingEdge> greetings
[10:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> lo CuttingEdge 
[10:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> to what do we owe the privilege? ;-p
[10:37] <CuttingEdge> ThatGraemeGuy: its thursday ;)
[10:37] <CuttingEdge> (i'm also trying to be a little more active within the community)
[10:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> actually its friday for those of us on the normal mon-fri grind
[10:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> public holidays ftw
[10:38] <CuttingEdge> yeah .. i thought tuesday was monday
[10:38] <CuttingEdge> and monday felt like sunday :/
[10:39] <Kilos> lol
[10:41] <Kilos> restart needed wbb
[12:22] <magespawn> good afternoon
[12:23] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[12:23] <magespawn> how are things?
[12:23] <Kilos> ok ty and you?
[12:23] <magespawn> peachy
[12:23] <Kilos> lol
[12:23] <magespawn> learning new things, so that is good
[12:24] <Kilos> always
[12:24] <magespawn> just learn't how to mac-telnet into a mikrotik router and enable the ethernet port
[12:25] <Kilos> sjoe
[12:31] <magespawn> not so difficult, just followed the instructions, but very useful
[12:31] <Kilos> yeah but nowq you know how
[12:31] <Kilos> routers are terrible things to me
[12:32] <magespawn> hopefully i can remember it too
[12:32] <magespawn> you can download the mikrotik router-os and install it on a pc to practice
[12:32] <Kilos> nice
[12:32] <magespawn> mikrotik are also not like other routers
[12:33] <magespawn> http://www.mikrotik.com/ if you want to have a gander
[12:34] <Kilos> nono im happy now with a switch the between pcs here
[12:34] <Kilos> and sharing 3g connection is so easy
[12:35] <Kilos> router drove me nuts
[12:38] <Kilos> nice to use things that jusr word
[12:38] <Kilos> just
[12:39] <magespawn> i am fairly used to 'normal' routers, but the mikrotik and cisco are some next level stuff
[12:39] <Kilos> yeah well keep learning, you need it ahead
[12:41] <magespawn> basically you connect to the device through its mac address rather than ip address
[12:42] <Kilos> i read a bit about that in the i-net+ study guide im working through
[13:19] <Kilos> if 2 pcs ahre a connection does the second pc alos fall under the main pcs firewall or must it have its own firewall
[13:19] <Kilos> wow
[13:19] <Kilos> if 2 pcs are sharing
[13:20] <Kilos> my keyboard has been drinking again
[13:23] <pieter2627> Kilos: is your kb old enough to drink :p How are they connected/sharing?
[13:26] <Kilos> ya sharing this ones 3g
[13:27] <Kilos> im sure the kb sneaks a dop when im away
[13:28] <Kilos> eth connection through a switch
[13:39] <magespawn> the first fire wall might only be checking the traffic that come to it from the net, generally local settings are more relaxed than internet setting
[13:39] <magespawn> having said that, on linux i am not actually sure
[13:40] <magespawn> anyway, pack up time for me, chat later
[13:40] <Kilos> all i want to firewall is from the net anyway. i totally trust me
[13:49] <Kilos> ohi superfly  
 [15:40:45] all i want to firewall is from the net anyway. i totally trust me
[13:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> in my experience you probably shouldn't
[13:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> :-p
[13:57] <Kilos> hahaha
[14:50] <Kilos> oi irc dropped me
[14:50] <Kilos> grrr
[15:03] <captine> hi all
[15:04] <Kilos> hi captine  
[15:04] <Kilos> hows you?
[15:04] <captine> doing ok.  thanks for asking.  and you?
[15:05] <Kilos> good ty
[15:05] <captine> u see the interesting things with Microsoft.  They have their coding tool working on Mac and Ubuntu to be able to develope and integrate with azure... even has built in GIT support
[15:06] <captine> Docker containers even working for them now... so one can possibly run a microsoft platform application (pastel or something) in a container on a docker server.... i think..
[15:06] <captine> gotto run.  daughter not sleeping.  brb
[15:06] <Kilos> lol
[15:12] <Kilos> w0000t canonical is happy with our site
[15:13] <Kilos> our africa site that is
[15:32] <Kilos> wb pieter2627  
[15:33]  * Kilos waits for comments from pro
[16:09] <captine> Kilos, where did you see Canonical being happy? they mail you?
[16:09] <Kilos> yeah
[16:10] <Kilos> we can use the ubuntu trademark freely
[16:10] <Kilos> and here is the comment about the site
[16:10] <Kilos> We think your website is fantastic, 
[16:11]  * Kilos bows to the site building team
[16:28] <captine> awesome.  well done all
[17:56] <Kilos> oi the splits have got us
[18:18] <inetpro> good evening
[18:18] <inetpro> Kilos: what's up?
[18:18] <Kilos> hi inetpro  
[18:20] <inetpro> Kilos: well done!! Again
[18:20] <Kilos> not me man, you guys
[18:20] <inetpro> no you
[18:20] <Kilos> no
[18:21] <inetpro> Kilos: yes
[18:21] <inetpro> but to be honest, I agree with ThatGraemeGuy, if I was you I would not trust you :-)
[18:21] <Kilos> oh when you update a wiki page do you make a ps: at the bottom
[18:21] <Kilos> lol
[18:22] <Kilos> hahaha you okes sound like tara, she says im a random cannon
[18:22] <inetpro> ps: at the bottom?
[18:22] <inetpro> where do you get that?
[18:23] <Kilos> ps as when you add something at the end of a letter
[18:23] <inetpro> why?
[18:23] <Kilos> why what
[18:23] <inetpro> why would you want a ps: at the bottom?
[18:24] <Kilos> well times and events change the staus
[18:24] <Kilos> status
[18:24] <inetpro> uh
[18:24]  * inetpro is lost
[18:24] <Kilos> you get notifications
[18:25] <Kilos> fly was right you are getting old and get confused and lost easy
[18:26] <inetpro> Kilos: please go back and draft the full picture before asking funny questions out of context
[18:26] <Kilos> lol
[18:26] <Kilos> i updated my wiki page man
[18:26] <Kilos> with ps at the bottom
[18:27] <inetpro> you see, there's one missing piece of info already... next?
[18:27] <Kilos> uh
[18:28] <Kilos> my wiki page says it notifies you
[18:28] <captine> Kilos, better a random cannon than a loose cannon :)
[18:28] <inetpro> Kilos: next?
[18:28] <Kilos> oh ya she said loose
[18:29] <captine> lol
[18:29] <captine> so u bashing around in the ship.. :)
[18:29] <Kilos> next she said go blow something up
[18:30] <Kilos> inetpro  did you read your mail?
[18:30] <Kilos> i know you dont read mails often
[18:30] <inetpro> Kilos: yes, next?
[18:30] <Kilos> oh my must there be more
[18:30] <Kilos> ?
[18:30]  * inetpro still doesn't get the context of the question
[18:31] <inetpro> maybe someone else does, but I don't
[18:31] <Kilos> eish
[18:31] <Kilos> nm that now
[18:31] <inetpro> nm?
[18:31] <Kilos> wont you write the team reports in simple
[18:32] <Kilos> nm=never mind
[18:32] <Kilos> the how to for team reports
[18:33] <inetpro> oh I will do the team reports before midnight... but please explain your question so I can understand
[18:33] <inetpro> no need to explain the team reports, anyone can just do it
[18:33] <Kilos> nono
[18:33] <Kilos> that top thing is too much for me
[18:34] <Kilos> i looked again today, i wanted to do it for you
[18:34] <Kilos> write the how to in simple and i can maybe help you out sometimes
[18:35] <Kilos> what question are you talking about sir pro
[18:35] <inetpro> 04/30 20:21:37 <Kilos> oh when you update a wiki page do you make a ps: at the bottom
[18:35] <Kilos> ai!
[18:35] <inetpro> please rephrase
[18:35] <Kilos> hmm...
[18:36] <Kilos> ok lets say you do a wiki page for membership right
[18:36] <Kilos> are you with me
[18:36] <Kilos> ?
[18:37] <Kilos> then months later things have changed right?
[18:37] <inetpro> yes?
[18:38] <Kilos> to update your wiki page do you ps at the bottom or just add in as i did
[18:39] <inetpro> Kilos: it depends
[18:39] <Kilos> or do you change the whole thing to suit present circumstances
[18:40] <Kilos> on?
[18:47] <Kilos> hi kulelu88  
[18:47] <kulelu88> o/
[18:49] <inetpro> wb kulelu88
[18:49] <inetpro> Kilos: 1. in the context of your question PS = postscript
[18:49] <inetpro> which is either, 
[18:49] <inetpro> a) an additional remark at the end of a letter, after the signature and introduced by ‘PS’, or
[18:49] <inetpro> b) an extra piece of information about an event that is added after it has happened
[18:50] <inetpro> am I right?
[18:50] <Kilos> yessir
[18:50] <inetpro> 2. a wiki page is just another web page
[18:50] <kulelu88> thank you Sir
[18:50] <inetpro> Kilos: 3. if you want the reader to see all historic information, then you probably want to add new information in such a way that it becomes clear that it is new information... how you do that is up to you and yourself, if it's your own page
[18:51] <inetpro> Kilos: 4. if it is not your own page, then you probably want to follow the same style as the original authors
[18:51] <inetpro> Kilos: 5. having said all the above, we are talking about a wiki here... all info is version controlled
[18:51] <Kilos> nono i do nothing without first checking with the bosses
[18:52] <Kilos> just read my wiki and see if its ok please
[18:52] <Kilos> sigh
[18:53] <inetpro> Kilos: put yourself in the shoes of a new reader
[18:53] <Kilos> i cant, they are all clever
[18:53] <inetpro> ai!
[18:53] <Kilos> and know how to rtfs
[18:55] <inetpro> Kilos: did you double-check your email address?
[18:57] <Kilos> see, there is method in my madness
[18:57] <inetpro> uh!?
[18:58] <Kilos> i should have just asked you to proof read for me hey?
[18:59] <Kilos> if i knew how i would have added the new parts in a different colour
[18:59] <Kilos> but i dont want to know now
[19:01] <Kilos> hi Guest61971  
[19:01] <guest653> hi Kilos
[19:01] <Kilos> and guest653  
[19:01] <Kilos> that you rusty?
[19:01]  * guest653 is AndrewLSD via mobile
[19:02] <Kilos> ohi there cant mobile do the nick thing
[19:04] <Kilos> well done and wb
[19:04] <captine> hi andrewlsd 
[19:05] <andrewlsd> ty
[19:05] <andrewlsd> hi captine
[19:05] <Kilos> andrewlsd  why you on mobile
[19:05] <captine> the #ubuntu channel can be frustrating.  half my chat client just has the details of those leaving and joining... very annoying
[19:06] <Kilos> lol
[19:06] <andrewlsd> my IRC client ignores those
[19:06] <Kilos> i dont even go there anymore
[19:06] <Kilos> oh ya captine  you can turn that off
[19:07] <andrewlsd> ohi superfly
[19:07] <superfly> sup andrewlsd
[19:08] <captine> thanks Kilos.  am looking into it.  using hexchat
[19:09] <andrewlsd> I've just been in an hour long hangout, so am all social-networked out.  see you another time (for longer)
[19:09] <Kilos> sleep tight
[19:09] <Kilos> ai!
[19:13] <superfly> Anyone seen Microsoft VisualStudio Code for Linux?
[19:13] <superfly> https://code.visualstudio.com/download
[19:14] <inetpro> superfly: yes
[19:15] <inetpro> I mean I've seen it but have not installed it
[19:16] <inetpro> oh btw Kilos, it's done now
[19:16] <Kilos> good man ty
[19:17] <Kilos> just got the trello notifications
[19:17] <Kilos> did you write a simple how to
[19:19] <Kilos> did you see the loco teams today
[19:19] <Kilos> they using our idea to get other groups in one plce
[19:20] <Kilos> well cheche anyway
[19:20] <inetpro> Kilos: the howto is simple
[19:20] <Kilos> our as in you and fly
[19:21] <Kilos> not as it was i get lost when it says look if there is a similar page
[19:21] <Kilos> i need a do this do that howto
[19:21] <Kilos> like mazal did the coc thing
[19:24] <inetpro> Kilos: we can look into adding more details in the monthly report tomorrow
[19:25] <Kilos> nono man
[19:25] <Kilos> i just thought i would try help you out
[19:26] <Kilos> i actually need the correct link to the meetings logs
[19:26] <Kilos> i get lost following http://irclogs.ubuntu.com
[19:26] <inetpro> Kilos: the monthly report for this month is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/TeamReports/15/March
[19:26] <Kilos> i want to get all fly used to command maaz
[19:27] <Kilos> so i can hand them to someone else to chair
[19:27] <Kilos> africa  that is
[19:27] <Kilos> ty
[19:28] <inetpro> Maaz: help meeting
[19:28] <Maaz> inetpro: Take minutes of an IRC Meeting. You can use it like this:
[19:28] <Maaz>   (start | end) meeting [about <title>]
[19:28] <Maaz>   I am <True Name>
[19:28] <Maaz>   topic <topic>
[19:28] <Maaz>   (agreed | idea | accepted | rejected) <statement>
[19:28] <Maaz>   minutes so far
[19:28] <Maaz>   meeting title is <title>
[19:28] <inetpro> Kilos: ^^
[19:28] <inetpro> what more do you need?
[19:28] <Kilos> sjoe was that all
[19:28] <inetpro> yes
[19:29] <Kilos> oh yay ill just tell them to QA help meeting
[19:29] <Kilos> hehe
[19:29] <inetpro> Kilos: remember
[19:29] <Kilos> ill try
[19:30] <inetpro> I have not set up proper logging and,
[19:30] <Kilos> oh my
[19:30] <inetpro> I have not set up a web page for accessing the logs yet
[19:30] <Kilos> oh my
[19:31] <inetpro> you really want me to do it now?
[19:31] <Kilos> no
[19:31] <inetpro> thank you
[19:31] <Kilos> will still be some weeks i think
[19:32] <Kilos> i also like just chatting to you at times too you know
[19:32] <inetpro> ai!
[19:32] <Kilos> without being told to rtfs
[19:32] <inetpro> :-)
[19:33] <Kilos> hehe
[19:33] <Kilos> aw he left
[19:34] <inetpro> hmm.. who do we have here?
[19:34] <inetpro> wb theblazehen
[19:35] <Kilos> wb theblazehen  
[19:35] <Kilos> too busy to chat to his friends looks like
[19:36] <inetpro> btw Kilos, no more time left to celebrate the release of Vivid
[19:37] <Kilos> ya i see its by done 
[19:37] <Kilos> we have time for 16.04 release
[19:37] <Kilos> then there will be dvds to hand around
[19:38] <Kilos> temp between 7 and 9°c tommorrow morning inetpro  
[19:39] <Kilos> dress warm on the boney
[19:39] <inetpro> at #ubuntu-za we are not very good at celebrating a release... something we need to work on
[19:39] <inetpro> luckily it's holiday tomorrow
[19:39] <Kilos> maybe cuttingedge will like that
[19:40] <Kilos> we need to entice maia back into the fold
[19:41] <Kilos> what can we promise her other than permanent chair
[19:41] <Kilos> dont talk now gotta take bp
[19:44] <inetpro> bp?
[19:46] <Kilos> blood pressure
[19:46] <Kilos> felt bit week last 2 days
[19:46] <Kilos> sis checked bp this morning 149/99
[19:47] <inetpro> ai!
[19:47] <Kilos> now we fixing it with magic
[19:47] <Kilos> 131/92 now
[19:48] <inetpro> how do you bring it down so quick?
[19:49] <inetpro> btw, it's weak, not week
[19:49] <Kilos> 1 clove garlic morning and night and right hand on south pole of magnet for 15 mins
[19:49] <Kilos> that too ya
[19:50] <Kilos> should be normal by tomorrow night
[19:50] <inetpro> hmm... ok
[19:50] <Kilos> you think im just a pretty face
[19:51] <inetpro> don't take me so serious man
[19:51] <Kilos> lol
[19:51] <inetpro> no need to stress like that
[19:52] <Kilos> why?
[19:52] <inetpro> look at you, you almost pass out with the bp of yours
[19:52] <inetpro> all my fault
[19:53] <Kilos> i still took sheep to and from grazing
[19:53] <Kilos> no man not you
[19:53] <Kilos> tomorrow im better and you will still be you
[19:53] <inetpro> ai!
[19:54]  * inetpro gotta go sleep early for a change
[19:54] <inetpro> good night
[19:54] <Kilos> ya but no 2 am wake up
[19:54] <Kilos> sleep tight my friend ty for everything
[19:55] <Kilos> wow gonna rain
[19:55] <Kilos> one whole night and no rtfs
[20:22] <Kilos> hmm...
[20:23] <Kilos> i wonder who this graham is
[20:27] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[21:26] <smile> Slaapwel :)