| holstein | why call for contributors, and then, when folks try and join the contributing teams, they dont get to join? | 00:50 |
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| holstein | that was a mailing list wide call out.. and you are getting responses | 00:50 |
| holstein | anyways, im sure you are communicating that to the persons trying to join.. what they need to do to prove them selves, and to whom, exactly, and why and by when | 00:52 |
| holstein | zequence: ^ | 00:54 |
| zequence | holstein: Yes, I am communicating with each person | 04:57 |
| zequence | Set is in the contributor team, and a couple of open ones. There's no need for him to be in the dev team | 04:58 |
| zequence | Not yet anyway | 04:58 |
| zequence | We don't know if ever touched a debian package yet | 04:58 |
| zequence | OvenWerks: I only stopped maintaining linux-lowlatency for precise. Since trusty, linux-lowlatency has been merged with -generic | 04:59 |
| zequence | So, canonical are maintaining it now | 04:59 |
| zequence | We have a small config diff in the main kernel source for creating our package | 04:59 |
| zequence | Also, our own debian folder - debian.lowlatency | 04:59 |
| zequence | with our own control section, etc | 04:59 |
| zequence | holstein: We have the contributor team for a reason - so that contributors can work on source without us having to worry about them messing up our main sources | 05:02 |
| zequence | We have enough trouble with out own mess ups | 05:03 |
| zequence | Set seems like he could do well, so let's hope he continues to be interested | 05:05 |
| zequence | There's a lot to learn before doing any big work, as you know | 05:06 |
| zequence | Didn't take him long to prepare a LP account and the keys, which is a good sign | 05:06 |
| zequence | Ah, no he's been member since 2011 | 05:07 |
| zequence | Well, anyway | 05:07 |
| zequence | OvenWerks: How about you apply to be Ubuntu member and work on getting upload rights too? | 08:27 |
| zequence | There are always people who can assist, but it's nicer being able to do the work yourself | 08:27 |
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| zequence | holstein: You ever done any changes to a package or a source branch? | 18:29 |
| zequence | I know you wanted to learn some stuff in the past. | 18:30 |
| zequence | I guess you are pretty busy as is | 18:30 |
| zequence | !es | 18:38 |
| ubottu | En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 18:38 |
| cub | Question for you who know more about packages need and so on, Kdenlive has become an offical KDE application which they inform (among other things) mean: "Since we are now based on Qt5/KF5, you NEED KDE Frameworks 5 to run Kdenlive." | 18:58 |
| cub | How will that affect Ubuntu Studio including Kdenlive? Will it pull in loads of KDE stuff, or "just the Framework? And what does that mean? | 18:59 |
| holstein | zequence: nothing that worked out.. i was working with scott on a package ages ago | 19:00 |
| holstein | that will not be in the scope of my contributions | 19:00 |
| holstein | not likely anytime in the near future, at least | 19:00 |
| zequence | cub: Not exactly sure, but we are already shipping qt stuff for a lot of apps. Has been mostly qt4 for a while. Guess we'll be shipping both for a while now | 19:00 |
| zequence | holstein: Ok. You are more than welcome to start doing it, whenever you want to. | 19:01 |
| zequence | It's easier when you have a clear job to do for a package of course | 19:01 |
| zequence | One thing I really like with this cheap atom laptop is the battery time. It's about 4h continuous use | 19:02 |
| holstein | i miss that with the chromebook.. it'll go for about 14 hours | 19:02 |
| zequence | Whoah | 19:02 |
| zequence | arm? | 19:02 |
| holstein | nope | 19:03 |
| holstein | one of the c720's with touchscreen | 19:03 |
| holstein | *if* i keep the screen dim, etc.. it really adds up | 19:03 |
| holstein | i have literally took my charger out of the house twice for that machine in the 2 years or whatever ive had it | 19:03 |
| zequence | I try to keep this screen dim, but it's harder during summer. I use dark theming a lot now, and that actually helps - as long as the text is bright enough | 19:04 |
| holstein | this laptop is lucky to get 6 hours | 19:05 |
| holstein | which, is and was impressive.. before i had the chromebook going for a while | 19:05 |
| zequence | 6h is a lot if you are using it continuosly | 19:06 |
| zequence | I get about 4h, using virtual machines, and the usual stuff | 19:06 |
| zequence | It doesn't sleep during that time. Not for very long, anyway | 19:06 |
| zequence | I'm used to 2h or less. But I haven't had a lot of laptops, and they are usually old when I get them | 19:07 |
| cub | I actually bought myself and iPad mini to replace laptop outside the house. Battery time is marvelous | 19:22 |
| cub | still, it's iOS though | 19:22 |
| zequence | cub: You are seriously disappointing me now :) | 19:22 |
| cub | hehe | 19:22 |
| cub | I need Garageband on my bus travels | 19:23 |
| cub | no good replacement for Android there | 19:23 |
| zequence | Android won't work with its stock kernel, no | 19:23 |
| cub | not that I get to use it much anymore since my toddler learned how to use an ipad | 19:23 |
| zequence | It's fascinating to see how quickly they learn | 19:24 |
| zequence | They don't understand what they are doing, but it works, sort of | 19:24 |
| cub | I'll fiddle a bit later on with the latest version of Kdenlive and see how it works. They will do KDe release schedule though with new releases every 4 months | 19:24 |
| zequence | I guess you have all heard about the recent changes in MS as far as open source and Linux support goes? | 19:25 |
| cub | yeah it's strange and fascinating. My daughter is 2,5 years old and when I was talking about buying new skis (skidor) | 19:25 |
| zequence | I thought I recognized their latest work - MS Visual Code | 19:25 |
| zequence | It's based on Atom, which in turn is based on chromium | 19:26 |
| cub | she said daddy come look, and then pointed at the Blocket app where she had found two pairs, one for me and one for her. I was stunend. | 19:26 |
| cub | I saw about Visual Studio, but are they releasing more? | 19:26 |
| zequence | Haha | 19:27 |
| zequence | They are open sourcing .net and I suppose .asp, and from what I gather they are working on supporting Linux with that | 19:28 |
| zequence | So, would make sense if there is more to come | 19:28 |
| zequence | https://code.visualstudio.com/Download | 19:29 |
| zequence | It's not badly designed for a simple code editor, but again, based on atom - which I like | 19:29 |
| zequence | https://atom.io/ | 19:29 |
| zequence | So weird | 19:31 |
| zequence | Wondering about the licensing actually | 19:32 |
| cub | exactly | 19:32 |
| zequence | I have to give this a try https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/04/msg00012.html | 19:36 |
| cub | :) | 19:45 |
| OvenWerks | cub: we were actually surprised at how little difference in ISO size kdenlive made. | 20:34 |
| OvenWerks | cub: The only thing I am not so sure is a good thing, is that after closing kdenlive, the KDE framework does not go away. It keeps running/using memory. | 20:35 |
| cub | OvenWerks, which kdenlive version did make it into 15.04? | 20:36 |
| OvenWerks | It makes me wonder how manu other apps leave things alive in memory after use | 20:36 |
| OvenWerks | cub: I am not sure... I would have to reboot I think to find out. | 20:36 |
| cub | OvenWerks, that sounds bad. I need to compare memory usage with 0.9.10 and the 15.04.01 | 20:37 |
| cub | no worries, I'll check it on my installation later on | 20:37 |
| OvenWerks | cub there is (of course) no visual indicator that the KDE frame work is running, it is just through using ps that I noticed it. | 20:40 |
| cub | mhm they assume you run KDE anyhow and will need it running | 20:41 |
| cub | Lightworks have still not released the promised open source version, but if/when they do it will be an interesting application | 20:41 |
| OvenWerks | yes. I don't know if it would be easy to add a wrapper to shut it off after. | 20:42 |
| cub | but wait, OvenWerks did you run Kdenlive in the US 15.04? | 20:42 |
| OvenWerks | I have not done that no. | 20:42 |
| cub | aha ok | 20:42 |
| cub | Anyhow, time for bed, g'nite all! | 20:44 |
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