[00:50] why call for contributors, and then, when folks try and join the contributing teams, they dont get to join? [00:50] that was a mailing list wide call out.. and you are getting responses [00:52] anyways, im sure you are communicating that to the persons trying to join.. what they need to do to prove them selves, and to whom, exactly, and why and by when [00:54] zequence: ^ [04:57] holstein: Yes, I am communicating with each person [04:58] Set is in the contributor team, and a couple of open ones. There's no need for him to be in the dev team [04:58] Not yet anyway [04:58] We don't know if ever touched a debian package yet [04:59] OvenWerks: I only stopped maintaining linux-lowlatency for precise. Since trusty, linux-lowlatency has been merged with -generic [04:59] So, canonical are maintaining it now [04:59] We have a small config diff in the main kernel source for creating our package [04:59] Also, our own debian folder - debian.lowlatency [04:59] with our own control section, etc [05:02] holstein: We have the contributor team for a reason - so that contributors can work on source without us having to worry about them messing up our main sources [05:03] We have enough trouble with out own mess ups [05:05] Set seems like he could do well, so let's hope he continues to be interested [05:06] There's a lot to learn before doing any big work, as you know [05:06] Didn't take him long to prepare a LP account and the keys, which is a good sign [05:07] Ah, no he's been member since 2011 [05:07] Well, anyway [08:27] OvenWerks: How about you apply to be Ubuntu member and work on getting upload rights too? [08:27] There are always people who can assist, but it's nicer being able to do the work yourself === kubotu_ is now known as kubotu [18:29] holstein: You ever done any changes to a package or a source branch? [18:30] I know you wanted to learn some stuff in the past. [18:30] I guess you are pretty busy as is [18:38] !es [18:38] En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro. [18:58] Question for you who know more about packages need and so on, Kdenlive has become an offical KDE application which they inform (among other things) mean: "Since we are now based on Qt5/KF5, you NEED KDE Frameworks 5 to run Kdenlive." [18:59] How will that affect Ubuntu Studio including Kdenlive? Will it pull in loads of KDE stuff, or "just the Framework? And what does that mean? [19:00] zequence: nothing that worked out.. i was working with scott on a package ages ago [19:00] that will not be in the scope of my contributions [19:00] not likely anytime in the near future, at least [19:00] cub: Not exactly sure, but we are already shipping qt stuff for a lot of apps. Has been mostly qt4 for a while. Guess we'll be shipping both for a while now [19:01] holstein: Ok. You are more than welcome to start doing it, whenever you want to. [19:01] It's easier when you have a clear job to do for a package of course [19:02] One thing I really like with this cheap atom laptop is the battery time. It's about 4h continuous use [19:02] i miss that with the chromebook.. it'll go for about 14 hours [19:02] Whoah [19:02] arm? [19:03] nope [19:03] one of the c720's with touchscreen [19:03] *if* i keep the screen dim, etc.. it really adds up [19:03] i have literally took my charger out of the house twice for that machine in the 2 years or whatever ive had it [19:04] I try to keep this screen dim, but it's harder during summer. I use dark theming a lot now, and that actually helps - as long as the text is bright enough [19:05] this laptop is lucky to get 6 hours [19:05] which, is and was impressive.. before i had the chromebook going for a while [19:06] 6h is a lot if you are using it continuosly [19:06] I get about 4h, using virtual machines, and the usual stuff [19:06] It doesn't sleep during that time. Not for very long, anyway [19:07] I'm used to 2h or less. But I haven't had a lot of laptops, and they are usually old when I get them [19:22] I actually bought myself and iPad mini to replace laptop outside the house. Battery time is marvelous [19:22] still, it's iOS though [19:22] cub: You are seriously disappointing me now :) [19:22] hehe [19:23] I need Garageband on my bus travels [19:23] no good replacement for Android there [19:23] Android won't work with its stock kernel, no [19:23] not that I get to use it much anymore since my toddler learned how to use an ipad [19:24] It's fascinating to see how quickly they learn [19:24] They don't understand what they are doing, but it works, sort of [19:24] I'll fiddle a bit later on with the latest version of Kdenlive and see how it works. They will do KDe release schedule though with new releases every 4 months [19:25] I guess you have all heard about the recent changes in MS as far as open source and Linux support goes? [19:25] yeah it's strange and fascinating. My daughter is 2,5 years old and when I was talking about buying new skis (skidor) [19:25] I thought I recognized their latest work - MS Visual Code [19:26] It's based on Atom, which in turn is based on chromium [19:26] she said daddy come look, and then pointed at the Blocket app where she had found two pairs, one for me and one for her. I was stunend. [19:26] I saw about Visual Studio, but are they releasing more? [19:27] Haha [19:28] They are open sourcing .net and I suppose .asp, and from what I gather they are working on supporting Linux with that [19:28] So, would make sense if there is more to come [19:29] https://code.visualstudio.com/Download [19:29] It's not badly designed for a simple code editor, but again, based on atom - which I like [19:29] https://atom.io/ [19:31] So weird [19:32] Wondering about the licensing actually [19:32] exactly [19:36] I have to give this a try https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/04/msg00012.html [19:45] :) [20:34] cub: we were actually surprised at how little difference in ISO size kdenlive made. [20:35] cub: The only thing I am not so sure is a good thing, is that after closing kdenlive, the KDE framework does not go away. It keeps running/using memory. [20:36] OvenWerks, which kdenlive version did make it into 15.04? [20:36] It makes me wonder how manu other apps leave things alive in memory after use [20:36] cub: I am not sure... I would have to reboot I think to find out. [20:37] OvenWerks, that sounds bad. I need to compare memory usage with 0.9.10 and the 15.04.01 [20:37] no worries, I'll check it on my installation later on [20:40] cub there is (of course) no visual indicator that the KDE frame work is running, it is just through using ps that I noticed it. [20:41] mhm they assume you run KDE anyhow and will need it running [20:41] Lightworks have still not released the promised open source version, but if/when they do it will be an interesting application [20:42] yes. I don't know if it would be easy to add a wrapper to shut it off after. [20:42] but wait, OvenWerks did you run Kdenlive in the US 15.04? [20:42] I have not done that no. [20:42] aha ok [20:44] Anyhow, time for bed, g'nite all! === \b is now known as benonsoftware