[06:42] <elfy> morning
[06:53] <Hudsonkem> morning :)
[10:17] <bluesabre> Dropped the Xfce 4.10 PPA, updated the description on https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/xfce-4.12
[10:23] <brainwash_> bluesabre: hi, you surely have some 14.04 installation to test stuff, right?
[10:24] <bluesabre> I use 14.04 at work, and test things in VMs before pushing them... what's up?
[10:24] <ali1234> i use 14.04 too
[10:24] <lderan> i have 14.04 on a laptop somewhere as well :P
[10:25] <brainwash_> package stuck in -proposed for too long
[10:25] <brainwash_> bug 1292290
[10:26] <brainwash_> once there was a fixed package available, everybody stopped caring about this bug o.o
[10:26] <brainwash_> or did it magically disappear? :)
[10:27] <ali1234> most likely explanation: nobody uses keybindings
[10:27] <brainwash_> anymore?
[10:27] <ali1234> ever
[10:27] <ali1234> since the invention of the computer mouse :)
[10:28] <bluesabre> I generally don't add a verification comment to the fixes that I upload, it feels wrong to me
[10:28] <brainwash_> how do I zoom the desktop with mouse only?
[10:29] <bluesabre> I test and verify, then upload, so one of the original reporters can take a crack at it
[10:29] <ali1234> remap one of your mouse buttons to send super
[10:29] <ali1234> or whatever key it is
[10:29] <brainwash_> bluesabre: but what to do? letting it rot in -proposed is bad 
[10:30] <ali1234> find someone who is willing to say it works for them
[10:30] <bluesabre> well, I'd imagine that nearly anybody else in -team or the community could also check out the bug
[10:30] <ali1234> anyone at all can post a verification comment
[10:31] <brainwash_> well, I'll bump the report at least
[10:31] <bluesabre> yeah, can't stop you from just marking it as verified yourself if you know the fix is good
[10:32] <ali1234> wait...
[10:33] <ali1234> nvm
[10:34] <ali1234> o yeah all you need to do is find one person who is affected to say that this packages fixes it
[10:38] <ali1234> i'm going to have to decline to be that person, i don't use shortcuts and i don't understand how they work or how to use them anyway
[10:54] <brainwash_> SRUs are always troublesome
[10:54] <brainwash_> bluesabre: any idea re bug 1421443 ?
[10:55] <brainwash_> light-locker should be disabled in the live session
[10:55] <bluesabre> yeah, it is
[10:55] <bluesabre> so thats odd
[10:56] <brainwash_> in 14.10 too, right?
[10:57] <brainwash_> I'm not sure if asking the reporter to test 15.04 will help
[10:57] <brainwash_> unless something was changed recently
[10:57] <bluesabre> might be related to the suspend
[10:57] <bluesabre> xubuntu-default-settings (14.10.5) utopic; urgency=medium
[10:57] <bluesabre>   * debian/light-locker.desktop
[10:57] <bluesabre>   * debian/xubuntu-live-settings.install
[10:57] <bluesabre>     - Drop light-locker.desktop, default config no longer auto-locks
[10:58] <bluesabre> should take a look at that later
[10:58] <brainwash_> thanks
[11:01] <brainwash_> there are some new display related bugs filed against xfce4-settings
[11:01] <brainwash_> want to take a look?
[11:03] <bluesabre> I can review them tonight, or you can link them here and I'll follow up
[11:04] <brainwash_> bug 1426939
[11:04] <brainwash_> bug 1441991
[11:04] <brainwash_> bug 1444060
[11:09] <ochosi> hmright, the first is a known issue, or feature request
[11:09] <ochosi> guess we'd have to listen to the respective signal and then update the view, doesnt sound too hard to do
[11:10] <ochosi> the second one is a collection of reports or feature requests, messy...
[11:10] <bluesabre> oh boy, we lured ochosi out :)
[11:10] <ochosi> oh boy oh boy oh boy
[11:13] <ochosi> lucky for you i need to head out again..
[11:13] <bluesabre> heh
[11:13] <bluesabre> have fun ochosi
[11:14] <ochosi> thanks, you too
[13:49] <elfy> hi krytarik 
[13:49] <krytarik> Hi elfy.
[15:41] <elfy> drc: :)
[15:42] <drc> I'm not here...oh, yes, I am <here>.
[20:05] <Unit193> And yet another day without the codename I presume.
[20:05] <elfy> yep
[20:06] <elfy> and if it's not tomorrow - another week without I'd guess
[20:09] <Unit193> Meh.  I've been waiting for some time to start pushing things. ;(
[20:09] <elfy> yep
[21:46] <Hudsonkem> hello, im using xubuntu 15.04 and sometimes when i open folder with external software like google chrome it open nautilus? why I dont installed that, and I found this packages nautilus-data, libnautilus-extension1a, may I remove that?
[21:48] <Unit193> You can remove it if you want to, I'd check to see what's removed.  Also, if nautilus is opened, then it's clearly been installed.  file-roller (archive manager) depends on nautilus-data, so that'd get removed as well.
[21:49] <Hudsonkem> :/ but what i can do without file-roller to open archives?
[21:49] <Unit193> I can't quite parse that.
[21:50] <Hudsonkem> ok, thx for ur help, I will relax and think what I will decide right now
[21:51] <Unit193> Check if nautilus is installed, and if so remove that.
[21:52] <Hudsonkem> yes checked, and nautilus is not installed, it so strange how it open '-'
[21:53] <drc> Hudsonkem: You are saying that nautilus is NOT installed but yet is being opened?
[21:54] <Unit193> `which nautilus`
[21:54] <Hudsonkem> yes, I'm so surprised
[21:55] <Hudsonkem> but maybe I'm wrong and, thunar come with layout and settings with same of nautilus?
[21:56] <drc> Hudsonkem: Do whatever you do to "open nautilus" and then check "Help>About" to see what tha app really is.
[21:57] <Hudsonkem> okay, now I will try reproduce that.
[21:58] <drc> Hudsonkem: This should probably be moved to #xubuntu  It's the support channel.
[21:58] <Hudsonkem> oh! okay ^^ thx for all
[21:59] <Unit193> Right you are, drc.
[22:00] <drc> Unit193: Sometimes I/we forget which channel we're actually in :)
[22:00] <Hudsonkem>  Xubuntu Development | Support at #xubuntu i didnt see that >.<
[22:01]  * drc will get his ruler..." Hudsonkem. stick out you hand" :)