| ahoneybun | Riddell: did you get any of those messages on Hangout? | 00:29 |
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| blubberbop | Anybody who might know when the next sddm updates are due? Current kubuntu 15.04 has been quite buggy for me, and though I have workarounds for most of the heavy problems, booting my machine gives me a black screen 9 out of 10 times (gotta drop to text console, restart sddm, restart sddm, 10x till I get the login screen) and thats.. anoying :) Just wondering when an update might be expected | 05:31 |
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| Riddell | happy May day, may the proletariat rise up against the bourgoisie | 08:10 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 08:33 |
| === aaron__ is now known as ahoneybun | ||
| soee_ | Riddell, sgclark: this 2 packages are marked to be removed now in apps: libktpotrprivate8 libmarblewidget20 | 11:39 |
| BluesKaj | Hey all | 11:52 |
| === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter | ||
| soee_ | BluesKaj: you are sudo lover i think so please read: https://plus.google.com/110954078302330754910/posts/fXjVF9UZ2kF:) | 12:32 |
| mparillo | Don't all those problems go away if you kdesudo? And yes, I did forget once, when I sudo nano filename. Then thought better of it, hit up-arrow and changed nano to kate. | 12:34 |
| BluesKaj | sudo for the the cli, kdesudo for gui root permissions, so how else does one edit files and save the changes ? | 12:44 |
| BluesKaj | soee_, ^ | 12:44 |
| soee_ | BluesKaj: what files exactly ? | 13:07 |
| soee_ | i think this bug wont happen if you edit some files outside your home | 13:08 |
| soee_ | or maybe it might .. | 13:08 |
| soee_ | hmm im not sure what cache exactly is saved in your home .cache | 13:08 |
| mparillo | The way I read the sudo G+ posts, it does not sound like a bug to me, but a way of safeguarding users who forget this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Graphical_sudo | 13:19 |
| BluesKaj | soee_, idon't see anything in cache pertaining to any files I edit with kdesudo or sudo, like the sources.list etc | 13:27 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: sudo nano? | 13:46 |
| BluesKaj | lordievader, nope, kdesudo kate in krunner | 13:46 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: I thought you were asking for a way to edit files as root... that is one way. | 13:47 |
| BluesKaj | suppose I could use nano , now that the fonts are so small on the toolbars it's hard to find the save button | 13:48 |
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - 10 years of friendlyness | Applications 15.04 Status http://goo.gl/JnVN6h https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas | plasma 5.3 http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.3.0_vivid.html | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | 15.04 is out - release the plasma! | Reviews: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10914818/ | http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/ | ||
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - 10 years of friendlyness | Applications 15.04 Status http://goo.gl/JnVN6h https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas | plasma 5.3 http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.3.0_vivid.html | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22508/kubuntu-kickoff/ Wed 6th 19:00UTC | ||
| Riddell | http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22508/kubuntu-kickoff/ Wed 6th 19:00UTC | 18:47 |
| Riddell | meeting | 18:47 |
| * ahoneybun needs to call for wednesday off lol | 18:56 | |
| ahoneybun | oh I can make it without taking off work :) | 18:57 |
| soee | 20:00 cet ? | 18:59 |
| soee | Riddell: can you touch a bit this calligra that fails to biuld ? | 19:00 |
| === blubberbop is now known as phoenixz | ||
| === rdieter is now known as rdieter_work | ||
| Riddell | suggestions welcome https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-community-team/2015-May/000422.html | 22:05 |
| shadeslayer | not a ML I'm subscribed to | 22:08 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: also, all I've heard back on that issue is that Canonical is working with the SFLC to figure something out | 22:09 |
| shadeslayer | you can quote me on that if you want to | 22:09 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: delaying games stop being fun after a while | 22:09 |
| shadeslayer | indeed | 22:10 |
| shadeslayer | been a year and a half now | 22:10 |
| valorie | Riddell: thank you for a very clear and non-emotional statement of the problem | 22:13 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: there, done | 22:14 |
| * shadeslayer jumps into the frying pot | 22:14 | |
| valorie | lol | 22:15 |
| valorie | usually said as "frying pan" | 22:15 |
| shadeslayer | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-community-team/2015-May/000424.html | 22:15 |
| shadeslayer | no frying pan can fit a human | 22:15 |
| valorie | but I guess deep-fat frying is done in a pot | 22:15 |
| shadeslayer | have you seen how shallow frying pans are >.> | 22:16 |
| shadeslayer | not even a VS model can fit on there | 22:16 |
| valorie | yes, I've been cooking since I was like 5 | 22:16 |
| valorie | even then I couldn't have fit | 22:16 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 22:16 |
| shadeslayer | valorie: we came up with the idea of sending your book on a tour around the world | 22:17 |
| shadeslayer | at Akademy | 22:17 |
| valorie | which book? | 22:17 |
| shadeslayer | Shadow of the Wind | 22:17 |
| valorie | ah | 22:17 |
| valorie | good idea! | 22:17 |
| shadeslayer | maybe give it to someone from India | 22:17 |
| shadeslayer | or like, !Europe | 22:17 |
| valorie | right | 22:17 |
| shadeslayer | could become a thing | 22:18 |
| valorie | it's so nice to see you active in channel, rohan | 22:18 |
| valorie | <3 | 22:19 |
| valorie | I miss you | 22:19 |
| shadeslayer | <3 | 22:19 |
| valorie | coming to Akademy? | 22:19 |
| shadeslayer | yeah, I've been hiding in other channels | 22:19 |
| shadeslayer | and then when I get home, I don't really want to hang around on IRC | 22:19 |
| shadeslayer | valorie: ofcourse | 22:19 |
| valorie | cool | 22:19 |
| shadeslayer | possibly even giving a talk | 22:19 |
| valorie | excellent! | 22:19 |
| shadeslayer | if vHanda accepts my proposal | 22:19 |
| shadeslayer | valorie: with sitter | 22:20 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: http://www.ubuntu.com/legal/terms-and-policies/contact-us | 22:20 |
| valorie | oh good, you talked him into attending | 22:20 |
| shadeslayer | that looks funsie | 22:20 |
| shadeslayer | valorie: talked? hah | 22:20 |
| shadeslayer | valorie: he 'volunteered' | 22:20 |
| shadeslayer | ;) | 22:20 |
| valorie | well, strong-armed then | 22:20 |
| valorie | hi stevesss1, can you restate here? | 22:23 |
| stevesss1 | kubuntu is not compatible with mysql-5.6 due to akonadi-server and akonadi-backend-mysql version requirement issues | 22:23 |
| stevesss1 | all of kde(most of it at least) requires akonadi-server | 22:23 |
| stevesss1 | akonadi-server can work with akonadi-backend-sqlite and akonadi-backend-postgresql so akonadi-backend-mysql shoudlnt be required | 22:23 |
| stevesss1 | akonadi-backend-mysql can 99% likely work with mysql-server-core-5.6 instead of 5.5 | 22:24 |
| stevesss1 | same for mysql-client-core-5.6 | 22:24 |
| stevesss1 | mysql-server-core-5.6 says it replaces 5.5 as does mysql-client-core-5.6 | 22:24 |
| stevesss1 | somehow akonadi-backend-myql doesnt honor this | 22:24 |
| stevesss1 | I beleive this to be a packaging error | 22:25 |
| stevesss1 | I edited the akonadi-backend-mysql control file in its deb, to allow for 5.6 as an alternative | 22:25 |
| shadeslayer | kind of , but not really | 22:25 |
| shadeslayer | there was a thread about it on Kubuntu Devel | 22:25 |
| stevesss1 | so by force-removing that dpend part of kde may be broken for me? | 22:26 |
| stevesss1 | got a link to the thread? | 22:26 |
| shadeslayer | stevesss1: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2015-April/009468.html | 22:27 |
| shadeslayer | stevesss1: this is in vivid? | 22:28 |
| stevesss1 | trusty.. but shoudl test on vivid | 22:28 |
| stevesss1 | maybe me fixing it for just me is good for now.. and let future ubuntu versions have a method to let a user choose what backend they want to use | 22:29 |
| stevesss1 | and have it allow more choices | 22:29 |
| shadeslayer | stevesss1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/akonadi/+bug/1336005 | 22:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1336005 in akonadi (Ubuntu Trusty) "akonadi-server too dependent on MySQL and prevent percona instalation" [Medium,Triaged] | 22:29 |
| shadeslayer | potentially fixed in vivid | 22:29 |
| stevesss1 | if I give a modified control file for the deb package that allows the user to choose from a list of valid backends using the debian depends | (OR) statements | 22:31 |
| stevesss1 | can you test that and update? | 22:31 |
| stevesss1 | I migth want to change akonadi-server to allow multiple backends and give a choice | 22:32 |
| stevesss1 | and install/removal of any of them(unless its a first time backend install) to warn before proceeding that there is no auto data transfer between backends | 22:32 |
| stevesss1 | so if I install akonadi-backend-sqlite first time and have no other backedns.... no warning.... | 22:32 |
| valorie | stevesss1: the problem I see with that is that it is an intrusive change | 22:33 |
| stevesss1 | if I install second backend or remove a backend I get data transfer warning | 22:33 |
| valorie | and should be done upstream | 22:33 |
| stevesss1 | for ubuntu? | 22:33 |
| valorie | no, for akonadi | 22:33 |
| stevesss1 | do they maintain apt archives? | 22:33 |
| valorie | downstream patches are ugh | 22:33 |
| stevesss1 | or apt repoistories? | 22:33 |
| valorie | no | 22:33 |
| stevesss1 | its somethign for the package maintainer to fix | 22:33 |
| valorie | they maintain their own package, which should allow for this, right? | 22:34 |
| stevesss1 | ubuntu makes the deb files and the bug is with packaging | 22:34 |
| stevesss1 | I dont think they maintain one for ubuntu | 22:34 |
| stevesss1 | but I can ask | 22:34 |
| valorie | no, there should be no need to maintain anything for one distro | 22:36 |
| valorie | that's my point | 22:36 |
| valorie | our packaging should not need patching | 22:36 |
| stevesss1 | it shouldnt but it often does | 22:36 |
| stevesss1 | maybe the bug is it doesnt honor that mysql-server-core-5.6 says it replaces mysql-server-core-5.5 | 22:37 |
| stevesss1 | that might be an aptitude/dpkg bug | 22:37 |
| stevesss1 | if A replaces B(and states so in deb package info).... and C requires B.. then C should accept A | 22:38 |
| valorie | well, I'm not a packager or coder, which is why I wanted you to bring the issue in here, where the experts live | 22:38 |
| stevesss1 | we'll see what happens | 22:38 |
| shadeslayer | stevesss1: again, have you checked if this happens in vivid? | 22:39 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: we only have 5.6 in vivid, and no, it doesn't | 23:23 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: so it's fixed \o/ | 23:23 |
| shadeslayer | stevesss1: ^^ | 23:23 |
| yofel | stevesss1: the reason why mysql is a hard dep, is that akonadi defaults to it. So if a random e.g. xubuntu users installs kmail, akonadi will be installed expecting to use mysql | 23:24 |
| yofel | so if apt chooses some other backend other than mysql for whatever reason, akonadi simply says it's broken and can't work | 23:25 |
| yofel | and there's not really any other sane way to solve this on a packaging level | 23:25 |
| yofel | stevesss1: FWIW, yes, you're right, the mysql version deps should be fixed in trusty. I didn't get around to do that yet | 23:27 |
| Etriaph | Just experienced a crash after unlocking the display; it started in Konversation but the exception thrown was from kdeinit5. I couldn't report the bug because kdeinit5 has no bug reporting address? | 23:29 |
| Etriaph | 15.04 w/5.3 PPA | 23:29 |
| valorie | hmmm, I've heard this one before | 23:30 |
| Etriaph | I tried to restabilize everything by rerunning plasmashell and kwin_x11 but it eventually just logged me out | 23:30 |
| valorie | Etriaph: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kinit/+bug/1411259 | 23:30 |
| yofel | I saw that "no bug address" thing mysql, no idea what that's about | 23:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1407152 in gnome-keyring (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1411259 Can't log out from Plasma session with SDDM" [Critical,Fix released] | 23:31 |
| yofel | s/mysql/myself | 23:31 |
| yofel | I should be sleeping really... | 23:31 |
| Etriaph | What's your local time? | 23:31 |
| yofel | 01:30AM | 23:31 |
| Etriaph | Yup, time for nappy | 23:32 |
| Etriaph | I wasn't trying to logout, though. | 23:33 |
| Etriaph | I locked my screen, came back and unlocked it. As soon as Konversation took focus the shell and the window manager died | 23:33 |
| valorie | "kdeinit5 crashes on logout and log in screen never loads " | 23:33 |
| Etriaph | Is the lock screen SDDM? | 23:34 |
| valorie | https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/506850-kdeinit5-crash-You-cannot-report-this-error! | 23:34 |
| valorie | no, lock screen is part of kwin | 23:34 |
| valorie | niters yofel, sweet dreams | 23:35 |
| Etriaph | I can successfully logout sometimes. | 23:35 |
| valorie | I've not experienced this, but I've seen others report it in #kubuntu and #kde | 23:36 |
| Etriaph | *nods* I have too, I just wish I could report it. | 23:36 |
| Etriaph | How do we get a reporting address for kdeinit5 configured? | 23:37 |
| Etriaph | It should go to kdelibs yes? | 23:37 |
| valorie | might be good to ask in #kde-devel where those experts live | 23:40 |
| Etriaph | valorie: Cool, I'll let you know what I learn | 23:40 |
| Etriaph | valorie: But it's software, not packaging yes, those reporting locations? | 23:41 |
| valorie | well, I'm there too | 23:41 |
| valorie | lol | 23:41 |
| valorie | yes | 23:41 |
| Etriaph | Cool, let's see who bites :D | 23:41 |
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