[14:56] <suncokret> what is keyboard shortcut for pull down menu?
[15:03] <krytarik> suncokret: What exactly do you mean by that?
[15:06] <suncokret> for example here in x-chat i can go to pull down menu if i press alt and letters wich are underlined in menu... is there universal shortcut to go to menu?
[15:17] <holstein> suncokret: alt should do it.. as in,if you are in gedit, or a text editor, and you use alt + f, you should get the "file" menu popup
[15:17] <holstein> will likely depend per application what is setup and what the options are
[15:18] <suncokret> i am now in xhat, and i press alt and it don't go up to menu
[15:18] <suncokret> *xchat
[15:21] <holstein> suncokret: i just installed xchat, and as i was explaining about gedit, when i use "alt + x", since the menu name on the left side of the menu starts with x, i use that combination and the menu item opens
[15:21] <holstein> suncokret: alt + w opens window menu.. alt + h opens help.. etc
[15:22] <holstein> suncokret: it will depend, per application, what is here.. as in, there is no "file" menu for xchat, so alt + f doesnt activate a file menu item
[15:23] <suncokret> when i press alt w or alt h or alt x... nothing happen
[15:25] <suncokret> i have xchat on serbian so in menu on left is option xchat (but on serbian, so letter i is underlined)
[15:26] <suncokret> so when i press alt i... it go to menu
[15:26] <holstein> suncokret: its, as explained, the  first letter.. if you are using a different application, or language, please adjust
[15:27] <suncokret> you use english, so first option in menu is "xchat" and letter x is underlined?
[15:27] <holstein> suncokret: if you dont have an "h****" menu item, but, in your language, its actually "k***" or whatever, then, you will adjust accordinly to get the menu itme to activate
[15:27] <holstein> suncokret: it doesnt matter what language.. if you want the menu item to activage, you use alt, and the first letter.. whatever that letter is
[15:28] <suncokret> i know that... but i ask why it don't want to go to menu just with alt
[15:28] <suncokret> or i ask for some universal shortcut, because it is not same letters in every program
[15:29] <suncokret> it is different letters which is underlined in programs
[15:38] <holstein> suncokret: alt does other things.. its not the menu key
[15:38] <suncokret> so only way is alt and some of letters which is underlined?
[15:47] <holstein> suncokret: no, its all open, and there are many ways to do things ,but, thats the default action that is setup across most applications in most operating systems
[15:53] <suncokret> thank you for help
[16:41] <a1fa> hi/ where did "presentation mode" go in 15.04?
[16:42] <holstein> you mean, disabling the screen saver? and power management?
[16:43] <a1fa> well technically yes, i know where that is
[16:43] <a1fa> but there used to be a neat feature to override it from systray
[16:43] <a1fa> presentation mode
[16:44] <a1fa> it used to be over battery indicator
[17:13] <a1fa> :)
[17:13] <a1fa> no ?
[18:37] <holstein> !info caffeine
[18:38] <holstein> a1fa: i think i would look into caffeine https://launchpad.net/caffeine
[19:15] <Unit193> !info kaffeine
[19:35] <suncokret> if window is larger than screen, can i see right down part of window with keyboard shortcut (not with mouse)?
[19:38] <suncokret> if i use keys "super and right" it show me right part of window, and if i use keys "super and down" it show me down (left) part
[19:39] <holstein> alt mouse drags the windows around.. is that not acceptable, suncokret ?
[19:40] <holstein> looks like this would give you what you want.. http://superuser.com/questions/642820/what-is-the-shortcut-key-in-lxde-to-move-a-window
[19:43] <suncokret> i didn't know about any shortcuts till last day so i had problems sometimes because i use little larger fonts so some windows are larger than screen
[19:44] <suncokret> this with alt and mouse is good, but i wanted to ask for shortcut without mouse
[19:44] <suncokret> i know for this Super with up, down, left, right
[20:20] <suncokret> thank you for this link about how to make shortcut key to move window
[20:20] <suncokret> it work
[20:20] <ianorlin> suncokret: do you want a keyboard shortcut for maximize?
[20:22] <suncokret> what is?
[20:22] <ianorlin> there isn't one by default but you can customize to have one
[20:23] <ianorlin> or right now you can press alt plus space and then select maximize with arrow keys
[20:27] <suncokret> so i can make shortcut for maximize same as for move?
[20:29] <ianorlin> suncokret: same as move won't be good as then you couldn't move although this involves editing an xml file but please make a backup of it first
[20:33] <suncokret> i do this
[20:34] <suncokret> i add <keybind key="A-F6"> ... <action name="ToggleMaximize"/> ... </keybind>
[20:35] <suncokret> in section <keyboard>
[20:35] <suncokret> and then in terminal: openbox --reconfigure
[20:35] <suncokret> and now i have toggle maximize with alt-f6
[20:41] <suncokret> thank you for help
[21:30] <suncokret> is lubuntu 15.04 final come?
[21:30] <wxl> !isitout | suncokret