[06:33] <Beret> hi
[06:33] <Beret> I have a rather silly question
[06:33] <Beret> I'm trying to determine why the default runlevel in vivid appears to be 5 rather than 2
[06:33] <Beret> a dist upgrade from u to v seems to have changed the default to 5
[06:33] <Beret> anyone know?
[06:46] <RAOF> Beret: Probably a side effect of the systemd switch?
[06:49] <Beret> likely, I'd like to know if it's intentional/remaining or a side effect of the upgrade specifically
[06:49] <Beret> I have some scripts that depend on the runlevel and I wanted to confirm before updating them
[07:02] <RAOF> Beret: If it's not listed in the release notes then it's not likely intentional.
[07:03] <RAOF> Also: is that the default runlevel if you use the (upstart) grub menu item?
[07:13] <willcooke> guess y'all on holiday today then
[07:14] <willcooke> I'm off on Monday
[07:14] <willcooke> (as in the UK)
[08:03] <Laney> yo
[08:03] <Laney> i am not!
[08:03] <willcooke> \o/
[08:04] <Laney> I was thinking about doing a swap of the bank holiday to friday so I can do an election all nighter
[08:05] <willcooke> ha!
[08:05] <willcooke> popey was doing an all nighter too
[08:06] <Laney> \o/
[08:10] <Laney> what really happens is that on Monday morning I decide that a lie in is the most important thing to do :P
[08:25] <willcooke> :)
[08:30] <willcooke> qengho, browser started without crashing this morning, but was an uncontrolled test
[08:31] <popey> \o/ election
[08:31] <popey> not something i say often
[08:32] <willcooke> For the local election is very easy, we have an independent and he's doing a first rate job
[08:33] <willcooke> he's also very good at pointing out the massive mistakes made by the big party councillors
[08:33] <willcooke> I say mistakes
[08:33] <willcooke> giving contracts to your husbands company, that kind of thing
[08:33] <willcooke> ya know, mistakes
[08:33] <Laney> finger slipped, oops
[08:34] <willcooke> despicable bastards, the lot of 'em
[08:34] <Laney> went to a hustings last night, one of the independents was laying into the previous MP (who didn't bother to turn up) for being parachuted into a safe seat after he lost his old one
[08:35] <willcooke> didnt turn up?
[08:35] <willcooke> classy
[08:35] <Laney> he sent some councillor in his place
[08:35] <willcooke> ha
[08:35] <Laney> who just kept going on about his own work
[08:35] <Laney> bit of a failure
[08:35] <willcooke> I'm coming to terms with the idea that Borris might be in charge of the country in 4 years time
[08:36] <willcooke> it'll be a hilarious caper
[08:43] <willcooke> yeeeeeesssssss
[08:43]  * willcooke downloads the 15.04 torrent at 10.5 MB/sec
[08:44] <willcooke> NB: Bytes
[08:44] <willcooke> this is good for being in the sticks
[08:44] <Laney> need to rewire this house
[08:44] <willcooke> cat5e all the way
[08:44] <Laney> 100mbit internet, but powerline network can't do it all
[08:44] <Laney> get 60ish
[08:45] <willcooke> not bad, they've come a long way
[08:45] <willcooke> but they still suck
[08:45] <willcooke> compared to cat5
[08:45] <Laney> previous house used to max it out
[08:45] <willcooke> nice!
[08:45] <Laney> that was a new build
[08:45] <willcooke> ahh
[08:45] <willcooke> so it's a mains wiring thing?
[08:45] <Laney> guess so, noisy or something?
[08:45] <willcooke> that'll be costly
[08:46] <willcooke> might as well be cat5 in while you're at it :)
[08:46] <Laney> indeed
[08:47] <Laney> can't think how to put it in without trailing wires or replastering
[08:47] <Laney> on the outside & via the cellar?!?!?!
[08:48] <willcooke> IMO, if you're planning to stay there for a while
[08:48] <willcooke> do it properly and re-plaster
[08:48] <willcooke> it's not *that* nad
[08:48] <willcooke> bad
[08:48] <willcooke> plus the mess they will make taking the old stuff out will need fixing anyway
[08:49] <willcooke> so you're gonna have to plaster anyway
[08:49] <willcooke> it might be that the last time they put trunking or conduit in
[08:49] <willcooke> so some of it might be able to be pulled in without making any mess
[08:50] <Laney> yeah I was thinking of avoiding doing that at all if possible
[08:50] <Laney> but then again some of the rooms need doing anyway
[08:51] <Laney> ALSO it just occurred to me that there's coax coming in here for a TV aerial that's unused
[08:51] <Laney> might be able to move the modem upstairs
[08:52] <willcooke> is that where your study is?
[08:52] <Laney> yep
[08:52] <willcooke> plus a case of getting it out of the living room I guess?
[08:52] <davmor2> willcooke: study man you are so English, people call it an office nowadays ;)
[08:52] <Laney> might be able to take it back through the wall where the installer put it in
[08:53] <Laney> then extend it up to join this one
[08:53] <willcooke> davmor2, :)
[08:53] <willcooke> cables! cables everywhere
[08:54] <Laney> would be alongside the existing TV cable
[08:54] <Laney> so not too hideous...
[08:54]  * Laney plans
[08:54] <willcooke> :D
[11:14] <willcooke> Laney, do you know much about the system settings app on the phone in seb128's absence?
[11:15] <Laney> some, haven't worked on it in a while though --- jgdx is the current man if I don't know
[11:17] <Laney> what is up?
[11:17] <willcooke> Laney, there's a meeting at 1500 with Florian, kenvandine and a few others - I've asked desrt to come along, I wonder if you could too?
[11:18] <willcooke> if it becomes clear you're not needed, just drop
[11:18] <Laney> okay, what's it about?
[11:18] <willcooke> just sent the invite - so you know as much as me now :)
[11:20] <Laney> hmm, righto
[11:29] <willcooke> qengho, my stored passwords failed to load first load this morning.  Quitting and reloading has fixed
[11:32] <willcooke> Urgh - The CoOp engergy have a new website
[11:32] <willcooke> and by the looks of it a new backend billing system
[11:32] <willcooke> SUCKS
[12:00] <willcooke> and by the looks of it a new backend billing system
[12:00] <willcooke> err
[12:01] <willcooke> window focus catches me out again
[12:11] <desrt> willcooke: where's the meeting?
[12:11] <Laney> beneath the railway arches
[12:12] <desrt> sounds good
[12:12] <willcooke> ask for "Big Paul"
[12:12] <Laney> wear a yellow beret so we can identify you
[12:12] <Laney> (hangout)
[12:12] <willcooke> msg'd you the link
[12:14] <Laney> what's this glib-compile-schemas --strict business?
[12:16] <Laney> seems like it's only going to be used when building packages
[12:17] <Laney> so the postinst won't be affected
[12:17] <Laney> k thx
[17:00] <Laney> nap time
[17:00] <Laney> happy weekend, see you monday or tuesday. :)