[00:01] <greenghost> ?
[00:02] <greenghost> daftykins: ?
[00:02] <daftykins> oh, i didn't see those since you didn't highlight me
[00:02] <daftykins> !logs
[00:02] <codepython7771> whats the fastest way to run ubuntu on a macbook pro without touching the internal ssd drive?
[00:02] <daftykins> hmm wrong one
[00:02] <codepython7771> thunderbolt?
[00:02] <daftykins> adding a second internal SSD :)
[00:03] <codepython7771> daftykins: can one do that? is there space for that?
[00:03] <daftykins> i can't see which model you have from here
[00:03] <codepython7771> daftykins: is there a command to print out the model number ? :)
[00:04] <daftykins> yes it's on the mac wiki page
[00:05] <codepython7771> Macbook pro (mid 2012)
[00:05] <daftykins> the best form tends to be the "x,y" model
[00:05] <codepython7771> Retina, Mid 2012?
[00:05] <greenghost> daftykins: what logs do I need to learn?
[00:06] <daftykins> the openvpn ones
[00:06] <codepython7771> daftykins: MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012) - this is what my about mac shows
[00:06] <greenghost> daftykins: link?
[00:06] <codepython7771> daftykins: https://support.apple.com/kb/SP653?locale=en_US&viewlocale=en_US - i think its this one?
[00:06] <daftykins> greenghost: i do not have one
[00:07] <daftykins> codepython7771: ah no optical drive then, no space for anything else most likely
[00:09] <codepython7771> daftykins: no optical drive indeed. Why not just boot through the thuderbolt + ssd into ubuntu?
[00:10] <daftykins> if you can get a thunderbolt enclosure of some kind for an HDD/SSD and it can be booted from, that might be the fastest option yeah
[00:10] <daftykins> doubt it'd be cheap
[00:10] <daftykins> just boot a live session from USB to ensure everything works properly before investing
[00:20] <codepython7771> daftykins: seems like thunderbolt drives to boot have to have finicky partitions… usb 3 works
[00:21] <daftykins> that'll be slow still really
[00:22] <ivanvp> so anybody had the problem of being prompted for permissions for almost anything they do. like shutdown, switch language...?
[00:22] <ivanvp> I have no idea how to debug this shit even
[00:22] <daftykins> !language
[00:26] <lighta> hi here, anyone experimented with installing redmine 3.0.2 ?
[00:31] <Nikesh> GNOME Terminal has changed for me since I upgraded, can anyone help?
[00:32] <pavlos> Nikesh, the File menu on top gives you the option to open a new window or a new tab
[00:32] <daftykins> help with change?
[00:32] <Nikesh> pavlos: It doesn't for me
[00:33] <pavlos> Nikesh, are you running 15.04?
[00:33] <Nikesh> pavlos: Yes, I just upgraded
[00:33] <Nikesh> pavlos: Many other broken things in it, too
[00:33] <pavlos> Nikesh, let me check my vm ...
[00:33] <Nikesh> pavlos: (in GNOME-terminal, I mean)
[00:33] <nitestryker> https://www.periscope.tv/w/VyPvrDIxNzczMnw4Mjc4OTkz4mtXiZGcKhihNTa_9BFowfX5aG_7tkJ-xVjcDDpv3d0=
[00:33] <GenericUser549> \keyboard
[00:34] <GenericUser549> (oops sry)
[00:34] <Nikesh> pavlos: e.g. It won't dynamically resize anymore and I can no longer use ALT+Number to switch windows in irssi
[00:35] <Nikesh> pavlos: By dynamically resize I mean, if I start irssi in a small window terminal, then I 'maximise' the window, irssi will still display as if it were in a small window, even though the window is large now
[00:35] <Nikesh> That wasn't the case before..
[00:37] <daftykins> do you run irssi with screen?
[00:37] <daftykins> Nikesh: ^
[00:38] <pavlos_> Nikesh, you're right ... the only thing I see is in prefs, there are 2 shortcuts, ctrl+shift+t opens a new tab, ctrl+shift+n opens new term
[00:38] <Nikesh> pavlos_: Nice to know about the keyboard shortcuts, that is helpful
[00:38] <Nikesh> daftykins: No
[00:39] <daftykins> and if you don't full screen but drag out the terminal... does it behave differently?
[00:41] <h3ph4ist0s> hello all
[00:42] <h3ph4ist0s> i need to downgrad from ubuntu 15 to ubuntu 14.04
[00:42] <daftykins> hi
[00:42] <h3ph4ist0s> how to
[00:42] <daftykins> you can't
[00:42] <Nikesh> daftykins: Ah, yes it works that way
[00:42] <daftykins> clean install
[00:42] <h3ph4ist0s> :'(
[00:42] <h3ph4ist0s> i can not install libt1-dev
[00:43] <Nikesh> daftykins: Is there a way to downgrade this package? I don't see any Reverse options other than the present version, I assume since I've upgrade to 15.04
[00:44] <Nikesh> daftykins: Or good alternatives or ways to fix? The biggest inconvenience I have now is not being able to use ALT+Number to switch windows in irssi
[00:44] <daftykins> you can't mix packages between releases, typically
[00:44] <daftykins> Nikesh: i know the numbering fails when you have more than one terminal tab, are you using a single tab?
[00:44] <daftykins> why not just try another terminal?
[00:45] <hellssanger> Nikesh: sudo apt-get remove --auto-remove NAME-OF-PROGRAM
[00:45] <daftykins> that does not downgrade 0o
[00:45] <Nikesh> daftykins: Yeah I do realise it won't work when I have more than one terminal tab, but in this case I only have one open, and it previously worked
[00:45] <Nikesh> daftykins: What other terminals do you recommend?
[00:46] <daftykins> Nikesh: and did you test a new user as i suggested earlier this evening?
[00:46] <daftykins> to see if it's a user config issue
[00:47] <Nikesh> daftykins: Sorry, thanks for reminding me of what you suggested previously. I had to log in to a VPN and lost my irc connection.. I tried a new GNOME-terminal profile, is that what you mean? Or do you mean system level user?
[00:47] <daftykins> a whole user account
[00:47] <daftykins> also, 'xterm' is the only one i can think of
[00:47] <daftykins> i wonder if terminator still exists too
[00:48] <Nikesh> daftykins: I've tried xterm, it's quite ugly but I could try to set it up for my needs
[00:48] <daftykins> well if the issues are with irssi, you could just use it for that solely
[00:48] <Nikesh> daftykins: true
[00:49] <Nikesh_> I am in XFCE terminal here. ALT+number works.. so that's a good solution
[00:49] <Nikesh_> Interesting how each terminal interprets the colours differently
[00:50] <raff> hello
[00:50] <Nikesh_> What I would have thought to be the same colours anywhere
[00:50] <daftykins> lo
[00:50] <raff> How is everyone doing?
[00:51] <daftykins> just fine thanks - got a support question?
[00:52] <raff> Im on 14.04 and after an update, my nvidia driver quit
[00:52] <raff> I am pretty rusty, and havent been able to figure out what to do to proceed
[00:53] <daftykins> raff: dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit
[00:54] <h3ph4ist0s> how can i build php7 on ubuntu15
[00:54] <h3ph4ist0s> ?
[00:55] <daftykins> why do you want newer than 5?
[00:55] <h3ph4ist0s> why not
[00:56] <daftykins> because it's making life harder for yourself
[00:56] <h3ph4ist0s> :D haha (y) of course
[00:56] <Jamie_> hey i am in the process of trying to build somthing perl... but i am running into one problem after another
[00:56] <daftykins> so i ask again, is there a specific reason you want newer?
[00:56] <daftykins> or is it just "bigger number must be better" ? :)
[00:57] <Jamie_> is there a way to build and download what is required to build
[00:57] <daftykins> apt-get install build-essential
[00:57] <Nikesh> daftykins: Thanks for your help! I'm about to lose connection again
[00:57] <daftykins> oh perl, no idea
[00:57] <Jamie_> daftykins: that works for perl also....
[00:57] <daftykins> winnar
[00:58] <h3ph4ist0s> daftykins, i need it for exécute some bots in php
[00:58] <daftykins> that doesn't make much sense to me, i'm sure those bots would work with php5 too
[00:58] <h3ph4ist0s> that's bot use any ressources
[00:58] <h3ph4ist0s> many*
[00:59] <Jamie_> daftykins: didnt do squat
[00:59] <h3ph4ist0s> can i speak with french
[00:59] <h3ph4ist0s> ?
[00:59] <daftykins> !fr
[00:59] <h3ph4ist0s> thanks
[00:59] <Jamie_> i thought i already had done it due to building firefox os
[00:59] <daftykins> Jamie_: 1) i don't know what you're doing 2) what didn't do anything? 3) show output or errors via pastebin if there's an issue
[01:00] <username> hi. i am the person that had issues installing lubuntu on a virtual machine. it is ok, i fixed it (the issue was related to my computer's bios).
[01:01] <Jamie_> okay i am trying to build a new firebot for a moz channel due to problems with the other firebot is not listening to join command. it is a perl compile and when i go to compile i keep hitting one thing needed after another... how can i add the perl compile database
[01:02] <username> the reason that i want to be running linux on a virtual machine, is to protect my windows computer from viruses etc. what are some things that i could do now, on my linux computer, to protect it?
[01:02] <username> other than not running on a root user
[01:02] <xangua> username: so you think running linux, on a virtual machine, running windows, will protect you from windows viruses?
[01:03] <username> xangua, it won't? :(
[01:03] <MathBlabUB> doesnt one protect a computer by having native linux and then vitrual windows? just the opposite?
[01:04] <daftykins> username: wow, that's a very bad misunderstanding
[01:04] <Jamie_> is there a way to set up perl to add needed dependancies as it compiles
[01:04] <daftykins> Jamie_: ask in a perl channel
[01:04] <SchrodingersScat> MathBlabUB: maybe you could use the ubuntu machine as a buffer, download files there to examine then move to the windows once their stories check out?
[01:04] <daftykins> this is not a development channel
[01:05] <Jamie_> i was asking here because i am doing it on ubuntu and when i add the package from ubuntu packages for core perl it says it cant
[01:05] <edisto> is it better to install gnome 3 from software center? or install ubuntugnome to use gnome?
[01:06] <daftykins> Jamie_: yeah they might have a better idea though
[01:06] <Guest13161> edisto: install ubuntugnome
[01:06] <Jamie_> edisto: if you want gnome i would suggest gettting ubuntugnome
[01:06] <xangua> edisto: the ubuntu gnome metapackage will install all the extra software ubuntu gnome ships with, if you don't want all that just install gnome shell
[01:06] <username> i just want to browse the internet through it. i mean, if i will install ghostery, have javascript disabled, run on a user with no root, and use a vpn to avoid annoying ads, won't it be better than browsing on just windows?
[01:06] <raff> was that dpkg-i (as in ivan) or dpkg-l (as in larry)? (sorry im slow, have had a few things interfere)
[01:06] <Jamie_> daftykins: okay sorry about that... do you know of any
[01:06] <daftykins> !alis | Jamie_
[01:07] <daftykins> i'm gonna go out on a limb here though and guess... #perl ? ##perl ?
[01:07] <Guest13161> VM's can provide some protection but its security through obscurity and that is NOT ideal
[01:07] <Jamie_> daftykins: thanks have a good day or night
[01:07] <daftykins> a VM does not protect a host OS
[01:08] <username> daftykins, how so? isn't the virtual hard drive 'locked'
[01:08] <Guest13161> WHONIX???
[01:08] <SchrodingersScat> doesn't seem like a ubuntu question at this point
[01:08] <daftykins> in what sense?
[01:09] <username> daftykins, in the sense that you can't access / its files can't access the host os
[01:09] <cntr> after I upgraded to 15.04, my computer graphics are very laggy -- what do I do? i'm on intel integrated graphics
[01:09] <daftykins> username: ridiculous
[01:09] <username> :(
[01:10] <daftykins> if you want to run Linux to feel safer than being on Windows, install it as a native OS - not a VM
[01:10] <daftykins> cntr: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:10] <cntr> daftykins: sec
[01:11] <cntr> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10957648/
[01:13] <daftykins> cntr: looks fine, unity desktop?
[01:13] <cntr> yeah
[01:13] <daftykins> make yourself up a flash drive of 15.04 and see if it works better in a live session compared with the installation
[01:13] <cntr> daftykins: oh, i installed it from a live session, actually
[01:13] <cntr> it was even worse on that
[01:14] <username> daftykins, so if i open a website that has a windows virus on my linux VM, the virus will be passed on my host windows machine?
[01:14] <daftykins> cntr: thought you said you upgraded?
[01:14] <cntr> i assumed it would work better on an actual install, but guess not
[01:14] <cntr> daftykins: er, to be precise, i reinstalled / but kept my /home in a separate partition
[01:14] <cntr> sorry, wasn't clear
[01:14] <daftykins> ah
[01:15] <daftykins> reboot and test the guest session
[01:15] <cntr> ok, brb
[01:15] <daftykins> username: no, but that example is different than your initial statements
[01:16] <username> daftykins, sorry if it wasn't clear, but that's my main reason :)
[01:16] <raff74> in regards to nvidia video card driver support and multiple monitors, is 15 better than 14?
[01:16] <daftykins> username: hmm, just a waste of RAM - a VM will be plenty slower to use, too
[01:17] <daftykins> raff74: doubt there'd be any difference, same driver versiosn are available on both
[01:17] <raff74> thank you
[01:17] <username> daftykins, true, but i don't want to use linux as my main distro on this computer, and don't want to dual boot
[01:17] <username> but thanks for your help
[01:18] <daftykins> a distro is a release of Linux, you mean 'OS' there
[01:18] <username> hehe, yeah, my bad
[01:18] <daftykins> fair enough
[01:18] <username> thanks and bye
[01:18] <daftykins> o/
[01:20] <raff74> discovered a failed update. likely the cause of the entire issue. thank you for your help, I really appreciate it!
[01:22] <cntr> daftykins: no, was still laggy on the guest session
[01:22] <daftykins> hrmm
[01:23] <daftykins> can you paste the single line from "lspci" of your graphics device? i figured it was a GMA 3150
[01:24] <cntr> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom Processor D4xx/D5xx/N4xx/N5xx Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[01:24] <cntr> daftykins: this?
[01:24] <daftykins> yep
[01:24] <daftykins> oh wow an atom :/
[01:24] <cntr> it's a very cheap computer :r
[01:24] <daftykins> yeah it's likely that unity just isn't for that machine
[01:25] <cntr> ah
[01:25] <cntr> hm
[01:25] <daftykins> might be worth trying out xubuntu, xfce is lighter weight
[01:25] <cntr> okay, i'll check it out
[01:25] <cntr> thanks for the help
[01:25] <daftykins> or just run 14.04 which is LTS if that worked fine
[01:25] <daftykins> no problem :)
[01:36] <BigJ> Whenever my laptop goes to suspend it won't wake, have to do a hard restart
[01:36] <XenophonF> hey all, i've run into a strange problem with initramfs
[01:37] <XenophonF> i'm installing ubuntu 15.04 manually (procedure detailed here - https://gist.github.com/xenophonf/aba14494a5f1ecba8dbe)
[01:37] <XenophonF> the short version is that i have root on a zfs pool, which lives on a luks container
[01:37] <XenophonF> when i run update-initramfs, I get the following output - https://gist.github.com/xenophonf/b0372d500eca372cc8ab
[01:38] <XenophonF> conspicuously absent from this program's output is the cryptsetup binary
[01:39] <XenophonF> i tried to confirm by dumping the contents of the initrd using cpio, but that only shows me a single file! https://gist.github.com/xenophonf/cb2fd45a0b3cb0831c02
[01:39] <XenophonF> what am I missing?
[01:40] <XenophonF> the initrd looks like it's about the right size - https://gist.github.com/xenophonf/507d525bb78bb0ed10ec
[01:43] <penos> hello
[01:44] <MathBlabUB> how do i pronounce your name?
[01:45] <penos> pee-nos
[01:45] <XenophonF> i guess its time to rtfs :(
[01:48] <Vespero> Hey, I'm having a problem where Wine stops being able to see my USB headset after, like 20 seconds
[01:48] <Vespero> At least, as far as Output goes
[01:48] <Vespero> It still sends through it when using "System Default"
[01:48] <Vespero> but it's super messed up.
[01:49] <Vespero> Anyone have experience with this kind of thing?
[01:54] <kk0710> hey guys, on my desktop I was running 12.04 I wanted to do a quick plex server set up on it and was wondering if there was any reason not to upgrade to 14.04?  I know frsh installs are better bu I am kind of in a hurry and don't feel like figuring out what I need to back up right now.
[01:56] <CarlFK> kk0710: sounds like you don't need to backup anything, otherwise you already would have right? :p  so blaze on!  (actually upgrades don't whack your data and stuff, so you are prolly fine.)
[01:57] <daftykins> 'in a hurry' oh mercy me
[01:57] <penos> can u do backup of system like norton ghost?
[01:58] <penos> as an image file?
[01:58] <kk0710> CarlFK, let me rephrase, I am curious as to whether or not upgrading has any downsides.  Now when I mean upgrade I actually mean upgrade over a fresh install.  upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04
[01:58] <daftykins> yes, see clonezilla
[01:58] <penos> !clonezilla | daftykins
[01:58] <daftykins> kk0710: yes it's a very bad move to rush at doing so.
[01:58] <geoffmcc> kk0710: I think either way your going to want a backup
[01:58] <daftykins> penos: that is not what i meant by see
[01:58] <kk0710> ok ill just stay at 12.04 for no then
[01:59] <CarlFK> kk0710: upgrading is one of the safer things, but it is still risky.
[01:59] <kk0710> wasn't sure why ubuntu offered an upgrade if it was unsafe but glad I asked
[01:59] <geoffmcc> kk0710: I run plex in docker, you can setup plex in a 14.04 container until your ready to update
[01:59] <CarlFK> mainly you may not be able to boot/do stuff to recover and need to bring up a 2nd system to un-break your box
[02:00] <geoffmcc> kk0710: https://github.com/timhaak/docker-plex
[02:00] <MichaelHabib> kk0710: hi, just a note, have a puppy on stand-by :)
[02:01] <daftykins> kk0710: it's not necessarily unsafe, you rushing to upgrade just to play with something is :)
[02:01] <penos> i use 14.04 LTS
[02:01] <kk0710> I'll just i nstall plex on 12.04 Im seeing no reason that wont work lol
[02:01] <penos> is 15.04 any good?
[02:01] <Vespero> I'm on it, it's good
[02:02] <est31> when idling, I notice some high CPU usage: http://pasteboard.co/7Qkql9j.png
[02:02] <est31> its caused by the plasma-desktop usage
[02:02] <est31> can anybody help finding the problem?
[02:02] <daftykins> #kubuntu might
[02:02] <est31> thats dead
[02:03] <est31> :(
[02:03] <est31> and I have already asked in #kde
[02:03] <est31> no help there either
[02:04] <Vespero> Anyone know anything about systray whitelisting in 15.04? I can't seem to find a solution.
[02:05] <daftykins> penos: no point leaving LTS
[02:05] <daftykins> all the cool kids stay on LTS and watch as everyone else upgrades and things break
[02:06]  * est31 feels like a cool kid because he doesnt use rolling release
[02:06] <daftykins> Ubuntu doesn't have a rolling release o0
[02:06] <est31> still I could use arch
[02:07] <daftykins> then you'd be in the wrong channel :D
[02:07] <est31> ?
[02:23] <d9500> i need help with installing a webcam. it's a logitech c270, which ostensibly is supported under linux. running "lsusb" displays the camera as an attached usb device
[02:23] <d9500> however, cheese doesn't detect it
[02:24] <daftykins> if it's UVC capable it should *just work*
[02:24] <wafflejock> d9500, maybe try with guvcview instead
[02:24] <d9500> guvc crashes
[02:24] <d9500> you click it, and immediate crash
[02:24] <d9500> and yes, i've switched it to different USB ports
[02:24] <wafflejock> d9500, any output when it crashes are you starting from a terminal?
[02:25] <d9500> shall i pastebin the error?
[02:25] <wafflejock> d9500, sure maybe it has some helpful info
[02:26] <d9500> http://pastebin.com/6GJDppaD
[02:26] <slabity> Hey all. I'm trying to get the Ubuntu 15.04 installer to run, but it freezes at "Received request to flush runtime journal from PID 1"
[02:26] <slabity> Any idea how to debug?
[02:27] <darthanubis> d9500, I have a similar camera, it acts funky as well
[02:28] <darthanubis> The first time I changed the resolution, and it popped on and I changed the reso back to default
[02:28] <darthanubis> today it didn't come on, and I restarted cheese andit worked
[02:28] <d9500> what's weird is the LED on the camera doesn't even light up
[02:28] <daftykins> slabity: md5 the downloaded ISO and remake the install media (USB or DVD?)
[02:29] <darthanubis> Logitech, Inc. Webcam C310
[02:29] <slabity> daftykinds: I've tried that.
[02:29] <slabity> The installer boots on other systems as well
[02:30] <slabity> It's USB. The 14.04 installer successfully boots, but not the 15.04 one. I think it is an issue with systemd, but I don't really know how to debug it
[02:30] <daftykins> slabity: what is the computer you're trying to use?
[02:30] <slabity> daftykins: A Dell Precision 7910
[02:31] <daftykins> latest BIOS?
[02:31] <slabity> Yes
[02:32] <daftykins> are you sure? :)
[02:32] <gugurang> anyone knows where can i get cisco IOS syntax highlighting for GEdit? Thanks
[02:32] <d9500> darthanubis or wafflejock, well, the hardware's not defective
[02:32] <d9500> i plugged it into a windows pc and it immediately detected the camera
[02:33] <darthanubis> I don't think the cam is defective
[02:33] <darthanubis> I just think we are having similar issues with our logitech usb cams
[02:33] <wafflejock> d9500, yeah finding posts here but mostly related to v4l2 (video for linux 2 I'm pretty sure) and mostly stuff related to problems with webcams on raspberry Pis
[02:33] <slabity> daftykins: It seems to be the newest version. But I find it unlikely that it's a BIOS issue.
[02:33] <slabity> I'll try reflashing it later, but I'd like to try other options first if possible
[02:34] <daftykins> yes, these things are often unlikely
[02:34] <daftykins> but when we compare between things that you can try and giving up, it comes under the former :D
[02:35] <slabity> I don't really see it as giving up. I see it more as trying to solve the more likely issues before trying the unlikely ones.
[02:36] <daftykins> i think you misunderstand my point
[02:36] <daftykins> but that 's ok because it's 3:35am on a Thursday night
[02:36] <daftykins> i'd just stick to LTS, 15.04 doesn't make you dinner and do your laundry just yet
[02:36] <d9500> wafflejock, darthanubis screw it i'm taking the camera back and getting a refund
[02:36] <darthanubis> for some
[02:37] <daftykins> d9500: that's rather impulsive
[02:37] <darthanubis> d9500, seems drastic
[02:37] <darthanubis> good luck
[02:37] <d9500> if it doesn't support ubuntu out of the box, they can have it back
[02:38] <daftykins> if the Logitech website says it has UVC support, it's a software issue
[02:38] <daftykins> amusingly i ordered one of those just the other day, i'll be testing it out on Ubuntu soon
[02:38] <wafflejock> d9500, yeah not sure what to suggest really see people rebuilding the v4l drivers but doesn't seem worth the trouble and like I said really about getting it working on a RasPi https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=62364
[02:38] <daftykins> it'll be for skype, however
[02:38] <d9500> yeah,  tested in cheese and skype
[02:38] <d9500> no video on either
[02:38] <d9500> and i'm not about to go and compile drivers
[02:38] <d9500> this is 2015, not 1995
[02:38] <wafflejock> d9500, I've got a logitech AF camera (splurged on it) and it works fine out of the box
[02:39] <daftykins> d9500: what version are you on?
[02:39] <d9500> 14.04
[02:39] <daftykins> have you even looked at what dmesg says on plugging it in?
[02:39] <slabity> daftykins: Then how can I help it make my dinner and do my laundry?
[02:40] <slabity> I'd like to at least debug a bit and submit a bug report
[02:40] <daftykins> ¬_¬
[02:40] <daftykins> you do that.
[02:41] <gzcwnk> for bind9 on ubuntu 14 is there anything I need to do to make it work?
[02:41] <gzcwnk> like enabled something somewhere?
[02:41] <melissa_> Hi everyone, well as I said last night I am brand new to xubuntu, I decided I needed to be like Ernest T and break some windows :) after learning more about xubuntu why I did not switch before I'll never know
[02:42] <darthanubis> d9500, http://askubuntu.com/questions/528952/problems-with-logitech-hd-webcam-c270
[02:42] <daftykins> gzcwnk: BIND can do a lot of things so you would need to configure it to do what you want to use it for, yes
[02:42] <alazare619> so i have a mdadm0 when adding 4th drive lost power
[02:42] <alazare619> now its saying resyncing pending
[02:42] <alazare619> i have no other drives to add to it
[02:42] <alazare619> but it seems to think it needs another
[02:42] <darthanubis> d9500, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1958610
[02:43] <d9500> i got ti to work in cheese
[02:43] <darthanubis> d9500, Hooray! I took the webcam back to Currys/PC World and replaced it for another C270. This one worked first time, and when I checked the device id it showed 046d:0825. I suspect there is a ?batch? of these C270s with the wrong device id. Hopefully this series of posts will save someone else spending ages trying to diagnose the problem - when all they need to do is get another webcam. Now back to 12:04, which I absolutely love.
[02:43] <gzcwnk> i followed the ubuntu doc but it wont answer queries so I am wondering if I am missing some =thing I am meant to do
[02:43] <gzcwnk> but the doc doesnt say so
[02:43] <N3X15_> http://i.imgur.com/z4FaCkO.png Any ideas how the hell to reap this zombie?
[02:43] <darthanubis> d9500, This is why I ALWAYS search Google first. NOT saying don't ask here. But it saves time.
[02:43] <d9500> mine shows 046d:0825 too
[02:43] <d9500> when i run lsusb
[02:44] <melissa_> I'm learning right now so for the most part if you don't mind if I sit back and watch?
[02:45] <darthanubis> d9500, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeWebCams
[02:45] <daftykins> melissa_: sure you can lurk.
[02:45] <cfhowlett> melissa_, please do.  also: www.fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads             suggest you get issue #0, read, issue #1, read ... repeat
[02:46] <melissa_> TY
[02:46] <d9500> darthanubis, so is the correct device ID for a logitech C270 webcam 046d:0825?
[02:47] <darthanubis> d9500, 046d:0821 Video and audio works out of the box (Skype 2.1.0.81-1, Cheese 2.28.1-0ubuntu1)
[02:47] <darthanubis> d9500, 046d:0825 Works with Skype 2.1.0.81. After first installation, I had to log out and log in again.
[02:48] <darthanubis> d9500, so technically you should be fine with sykpe
[02:48] <darthanubis> The other version worked fine with cheese. But that is just as far as the last webpage I dropped
[02:48] <d9500> ok i'll brb i might've gotten it to wor
[02:48] <d9500> k
[02:49] <daftykins> that was quick
[02:49] <daftykins> how come you didn't earlier?
[02:49] <est31> wooow date is really cool
[02:49] <est31> date --date="2 days ago"
[02:49] <darthanubis> d9500, let us know what you did?
[02:49] <est31> date --date="next Tuesday"
[02:49] <d9500> once i test it
[02:49] <est31> all works
[02:49] <d9500> i said brb
[02:49]  * est31 is impressed
[02:51] <gzcwnk> this is just wierd....
[02:51]  * est31 thinks of wiring this up with TTS
[02:51] <gzcwnk> no one it seems cant write a document on how to make bind9 work on ubuntu
[02:51] <est31> that would be really cool
[02:51] <daftykins> gzcwnk: you mean based on the *one* you've followed?
[02:51] <est31> I mean other way round
[02:52] <cfhowlett> gzcwnk, in ubuntu forums.
[02:52] <gzcwnk> Ive looked at the ubuntu docs plus at least 3 others
[02:53] <gzcwnk> install it, set forwarder, restart it
[02:53] <gzcwnk> yet it wont work
[02:53] <gzcwnk> what could be simpler?
[02:53] <daftykins> gzcwnk: you haven't really provided a decent explanation of what's happening compared to what you expect
[02:54] <gzcwnk> i installed bind9, set a forwarder as per, https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/dns-configuration.html#dns-caching-configuration and restarted and no joy
[02:54] <daftykins> alright but what makes you say "no joy"
[02:54] <daftykins> what do you *DO* that should provide an expected output, which fails to provide said output?
[02:54] <Yiota> why won't  sudo install ipython-notebook  wirj?
[02:54] <Yiota> work*
[02:54] <daftykins> because 'install' isn't a command
[02:54] <daftykins> sudo apt-get install <package>
[02:55] <gzcwnk> I did that
[02:55] <gzcwnk> its on the server
[02:55] <daftykins> did what...
[02:55] <gzcwnk> I also followed this, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto
[02:55] <cfhowlett> Yiota, open your terminal.  type apt-get        then <enter>.  read.
[02:56] <daftykins> gzcwnk: so are you using dig or nslookup to query your BIND host for a domain?
[02:56] <daftykins> show the command you are running.
[02:56] <gzcwnk> host and nslookup
[02:56] <daftykins> show the full command
[02:56] <Yiota> Thank you!
[02:56] <gzcwnk> host www.debian.org
[02:56] <daftykins> gzcwnk: when i was a kid, if i asked for help, i'd tell people what i ran, what happened - and what i expected to happen
[02:57] <daftykins> gzcwnk: alright but is your host configured to query your server for DNS? have you hardcoded it in /etc/resolv.conf to be your DNS server?
[02:57] <daftykins> or are you still configured to use your router / ISPs DNS?
[02:58] <gzcwnk> I have dont /etc/resolv.conf with 127.0.0.1 and I also have a clint querying and I get no reply, I have also used nslookup and set a server, no reply
[02:58] <gzcwnk> done
[02:59] <daftykins> you can't use localhost like that if you are using a desktop with dnsmasq etc.
[02:59] <gzcwnk> service bind9 status says its running
[02:59] <d9500> darthanubis, wafflej0ck...i got it to work under cheese by stopping and restarting the cheese program
[02:59] <melissa_> If you are careful of where you go on the web is linux less of a threat with viruses than windows is?
[02:59] <d9500> once it oworked there, that confirmed the hardware was good and UVC driver was loaded and functional
[02:59] <daftykins> gzcwnk: read logs and see if the queries are even being received.
[02:59] <d9500> it was actually a skype issue; as to why it didn't work in skype.
[03:00] <gzcwnk> melissa linux is close to a zero risk for viruses
[03:00] <d9500> i had the wrong video device selected in the skype options
[03:00] <gzcwnk> daftykins I cant find any logs so far
[03:00] <daftykins> melissa_: "virus" is a very 90s term, malware is today's modern threat (a whole bunch of different things) and all OSs can to some degree be harmed from unsafe web browsing. Linux is a lot safer yes, but bad things can still happen
[03:01] <daftykins> gzcwnk: you have not discovered where BINDs log files are? then get cracking!
[03:01] <gzcwnk> i know where redhat's logs are but, no i cant see anythignt o say where they are under /var/log
[03:02] <d9500> anyway thans of rthe help
[03:02] <d9500> thanks for the*
[03:02] <d9500> i'm out
[03:02] <daftykins> gzcwnk: if i googled i am sure i would find where BINDs logs are within seconds, or i'd just look in /var/log and spot them...
[03:02] <Nautilus> I'm setting up a new web dev box, my old one is 12.04LTS and I'm trying to decide if I should stick with that or go to 14.04LTS. Any issues that would make me want to do 12.04?
[03:02] <gzcwnk> well this is one of teh things that is mystifying me
[03:03] <gzcwnk> id expect /var/log/named/ but no
[03:03] <daftykins> Nautilus: nope. upgraded my web server just fine
[03:03] <daftykins> Nautilus: why not test it out in a VM first before committing?
[03:03] <Nautilus> by new box I meant a VM anyways
[03:04] <daftykins> good stuff, then get playing
[03:04] <cfhowlett> Nautilus, virtualbox for the win ...
[03:04] <Nautilus> getting rid of my dedicated web dev PC
[03:04] <melissa_> thanks for the replies
[03:04] <Nautilus> cfhowlett: I'm thinking VMware
[03:04] <cfhowlett> Nautilus, :)
[03:04] <nomic> THE file browser ^
[03:04] <MichaelHabib> hi, with webmin + BIND server, shouldn't I be able to just create a Virtual Host to get a "domain" on my serve4r or still need to create Master zone -> A  Records ?
[03:04] <Nautilus> actually, THE sea creature :)
[03:04] <nomic> ok
[03:05] <wafflejock> Nautilus, when you upgrade you're going to get a newer version of apache
[03:05] <cfhowlett> !webmin | michael_mbp, webmin is NOT recommended for ubunt
[03:05] <nomic> 2nd thing to do after installing ubuntu - install nautilus
[03:05] <Nautilus> waffl: oh, that's the kind of issue I might need to know about
[03:05] <wafflejock> Nautilus, the latest uses /var/www/html by default instead of /var/www as the base so you may need to account for that, otherwise would say things should go smooth
[03:06] <Nautilus> wafflejock: that's the kind of thing I dont call issues.
[03:06] <MichaelHabib> nomic: 1st think you do after you install ubuntu run  :  sudo apt-get install firefox krusader terminator thunderbird filezilla
[03:06] <gzcwnk> nothing in syslog for bind9
[03:07] <cfhowlett> !webmin | MichaelHabib  webmin is NOT recommended for ubunt
[03:07] <nomic> actually I do this : sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras gnome-system-monitor pan python-pygame nautilus portmap nfs-common nfs-kernel-server openssh-server
[03:07] <nomic> lightpd
[03:08] <MichaelHabib> cfhowlett: mm thats a shame :(  what's an alternative to webmin ?
[03:08] <nomic> gedit .. keep remembering things here
[03:08] <cfhowlett> MichaelHabib, I suspect the #ubuntu-sever channel can provide better suggestions than I can.
[03:08] <nomic> thats 'lighttpd' far better than apache (smaller)
[03:08] <N3X15_> MichaelHabib, you're better off learning how to sysadmin via the console.
[03:08] <nomic> php5-cgi php5-cli  etc etc (stops)
[03:08] <N3X15_> Webmin only serves to break things horribly.
[03:09] <Nautilus> nomic: all noted, will review later
[03:09] <nomic> isn't firefox installed, always
[03:09] <MichaelHabib> N3X15_: will be doing that soon, just need to learn a bit more before i mess up my dev server
[03:09] <N3X15_> Install virtualbox and experiment locally.
[03:10] <melissa_> The only thing I don't like is it seems Magic Jack does not have linux drivers yet.
[03:10] <MichaelHabib> N3X15_: thats what I have, but still need to get this working for the time being as I have a project to get done ASAP. after that I will have more time to play around.
[03:11] <N3X15_> MichaelHabib, what kind of project?
[03:12] <darthanubis> melissa_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/335572/does-magic-jack-work-on-ubuntu
[03:12] <MichaelHabib> SO, lets make it BIND only question, can I use like wildcard as an A record   *.server.com  then just create Virtual Hosts as i need them ?
[03:12] <MichaelHabib> N3X15_: A website based on  Laravel + Typic CMS
[03:12] <N3X15_> The standard php5-cgi lighttpd packages should work
[03:13] <N3X15_> As for bind, I'll leave that for someone else :V
[03:13] <melissa_> thank you darthanubis
[03:13] <MichaelHabib> N3X15_:  I already have my dev box setup ages ago, just last week added Bind for make things easier
[03:13] <darthanubis> it wasn't me, I just copied your statement and dropped it in Google :)
[03:14] <daftykins> it's kind of enabling bad users to google for them
[03:14] <daftykins> everyone in here should be researching their own queries before asking us
[03:14] <N3X15_> michael, you shouldn't need bind.  Just throw some crap in /etc/ hosts
[03:14] <N3X15_> */etc/hosts
[03:14] <melissa_> darthanubis well I ain't thanking google :)
[03:15] <darthanubis> but they don't see we help. And tell them how we got theinfo.....if they care
[03:15] <darthanubis> not see so
[03:15] <daftykins> what?
[03:15] <daftykins> that's some... interesting english, darthanubis
[03:16]  * cfhowlett Samuel L. Jackson clears his throat and glares
[03:16] <darthanubis> it's called a typo, a correction, then the ignoring of there of
[03:17] <daftykins> aaaah, see = so or s/see/so/ might've been clearer ;)
[03:17] <darthanubis> :)
[03:17] <daftykins> and no you see, as i said - you kind of create them being like this if you enable their behaviour
[03:18] <darthanubis> well, I learned that from this channel
[03:18] <darthanubis> but if that is changing, I welcome it
[03:19] <gzcwnk> hmm noting in syslog at all, it doesnt log as if it isnt seeing a connection
[03:20] <gzcwnk> hmm could apparmor be an issue for bind9?
[03:21] <tedward> question, trying to install 15.04 on a dell xps13, the installation goes without a problem, but then it won't boot, first time with uefi and I wondering if there is something I am missing?
[03:21] <daftykins> dualboot with Win8 or alone?
[03:21] <cfhowlett> tedward, this was a windows machine??
[03:22] <tedward> no it was the developer edition, came with 14.04
[03:22] <tedward> but the live disk of 15.04 works well
[03:23] <cfhowlett> tedward, you clean installed 15.04 or upgraded from 14.04??
[03:23] <tedward> clean install. tried at first with full disk encryption, when it didn't work tried just the plain vanilla install same issue
[03:24] <daftykins> dd zeroes onto the first 100MB of the drive then try installing again, also disable updates during install for a test and see how it goes
[03:24] <cfhowlett> tedward, this ^^^
[03:25] <petrvs> mmm, the install is probably fine save for the booting part
[03:25] <daftykins> probably. above is easy to do though
[03:26] <tedward> hmm just booted, I was trying one last install, while chatting, but I had turned off a setting in uefi that allowed for legacy booting to be detected
[03:26] <cfhowlett> tedward, and you DID perform md5sum on the .iso and usb ... right?
[03:26] <tedward> perhaps that was what was causing the problem
[03:26] <tedward> yes I did that
[03:26] <tedward> I am still new to uefi, but perhaps that setting was confusing the installer?
[03:27] <daftykins> we don't know what mode you booted in or installed in
[03:27] <darthanubis> teward, try a different distros livecd
[03:27] <darthanubis> or install
[03:27] <tedward> I booted in uefi, or at least tried, the install worked after changing that one setting
[03:27] <tedward> strange
[03:28] <daftykins> !efi
[03:28] <daftykins> read that for more
[03:29] <tedward> ah thanks ubottu
[03:29] <petrvs> nuke it from orbit, only way to be sure
[03:30] <daftykins> indeed, Ripley
[03:31]  * petrvs takes pants off and walks away from the aliens
[03:33] <gzcwnk> i cant even get bind to log with it fatalling
[03:33] <gzcwnk> ffs
[03:33] <MichaelHabib1> Q : if I created an A record (mypc.server.com -> 192.168.0.100) which points to a different address to the server.com (server.com is at 192.168.0.200). shouln't I be able to ping mypc.server.com  & ssh into it ?
[03:34] <daftykins> MichaelHabib1: with what? your real domain's control panel?
[03:35] <MichaelHabib1> daftykins: ITS ALL LOCAL
[03:35] <daftykins> why are you typing in caps?
[03:35] <daftykins> am i meant to read your mind?
[03:35] <est31> thst still works MichaelHabib1
[03:35] <MichaelHabib1> ops *
[03:36] <est31> just dont expect it to work where those local addresses aren't assigned
[03:36] <MichaelHabib1> daftykins: I wasnt "shouting" lol.. just pressed the wrong button
[03:36] <daftykins> gotta go
[03:36] <MichaelHabib1> daftykins: np , thanks anyway bro
[03:37] <petrvs> IT'S NOT A TRUCK
[03:38] <gzcwnk> how do a iget more than one xterm open on a ubuntu desktop?
[03:38] <MichaelHabib1> est31: I made sure i have the correct IP adresses, I can ssh into  server.com (which is the Apache+DNS server VM) but I have mypc.server.com  A Record pointing to an IP adress of another device on the network (MyPC).
[03:39] <est31> MichaelHabib1, from where are you sshing from?
[03:39] <MichaelHabib1> est31: but trying to ping mypc.server.com gives me "host not found" error.  I can ping the IP  from inside server.com box
[03:39] <est31> is where you ssh from on the same network as mypc, or on the internet?
[03:40] <MichaelHabib1> all on the same network
[03:40] <gzcwnk> anyone know how to get bind9 to run as a caching server on ubbuntu14?
[03:41] <est31> MichaelHabib1, what is the output on the following on where you are sshing from: dig mypc.server.com ?
[03:42] <est31> does it contain the ip address of mypc?
[03:42] <MichaelHabib1> est31: no, it has  SERVER: 127.0.1.1
[03:43] <est31> MichaelHabib1, you have to replace mypc.server.com with the actual domain you use?
[03:43] <est31> :)
[03:43] <MichaelHabib1> est31: that IS the domain im using :)
[03:44] <IcemanV9> is there a reason why Firefox greys out so often on live usb? friends laughed at it and rather to stick with Windows.
[03:44] <est31> cool server.com is yours.
[03:45] <est31> so perhaps wait until the DNS cache has gone invalid?
[03:45] <MichaelHabib1> est31: im using server.com as the domain on my local apache+bind (DNS) server
[03:46] <MichaelHabib1> so my devices use server.com -> 192.168.0.200  as the DNS server
[03:46] <est31> yes
[03:46] <est31> perhaps its asking on the internet instead of the dns server for server.com
[03:46] <est31> because I get 127.0.0.1 too
[03:47] <MichaelHabib1> I can create local websites under  *.server.com as long as the A record uses the server.com IP adress (local / same machine IP)
[03:51] <MichaelHabib1> est31: fixed it :)
[03:51] <est31> great )
[03:51] <est31> :)
[03:52] <MichaelHabib1> now with this +  no-ip DDNS service,  I should be able to go anywhere, adjust the IP on my laptop to the IP of my home server (I have dynamic IP)  then work from anywhere :)
[03:52] <MichaelHabib1> MY fully working Home Server :D
[03:53] <MichaelHabib1> My Laptop -> Home Router -> Forward all traffic to my HomeDNS Server -> Access Apache or any other device in my network
[03:53] <est31> you wont reach mypc though
[03:56] <gzcwnk> #vuyos
[04:01] <MichaelHabib1> est31: My I ask you to explain why I wont reach mypc  from an external computer (computer not on the local network)
[04:02] <Neo9> [Fri May 01 09:06:47 2015] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[04:02] <Neo9> [Fri May 01 09:06:48 2015] [notice] Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) mod_ssl/2.2.22 OpenSSL/1.0.1 configured -- resuming normal operations
[04:02] <est31> MichaelHabib1, because DNS records are no black magic
[04:02] <est31> they are just like a phone book
[04:03] <est31> if you can't reach the ip address knowing it wont help
[04:03] <ir7466> Hello friends
[04:03] <ir7466> Arial is not supported on Ubuntu, is that correct?
[04:04] <cfhowlett> ir7466, false.  you can install it
[04:04] <ir7466> I have a script which generates PDF's... on Windows it comes out in Arial just fine. But the same script run on Ubuntu seems to go with the default Ubuntu font
[04:04] <ir7466> I do not know what it's called but it's not Arial
[04:04] <darthanubis> !fonts
[04:05] <intrnl> hello
[04:05] <need-boot-fix> embarrassed, but need some help getting drive to boot in EFI (with GPT), using boot-repair-disk  - my SSD drive is dying but got most of the files accross to new drive, formatted but not booting
[04:06] <ir7466> so what should I change font-family: "Arial"; to?
[04:06] <darthanubis> ir7466, have you looked at fonts in systemsettings?
[04:06] <petrvs> ir7466: you can install arial if you want
[04:06] <cfhowlett> ir7466, the ubuntu font is clean and simple ... or you can install arial
[04:07] <MichaelHabib1> So do I need to be able to reach the address used in the A record from an Ext IP  or just being able to access the server.com from the web?
[04:07] <petrvs> ir7466: ttf-mscorefonts-installer from multiverse
[04:07] <need-boot-fix> boot-repair tells me to format a partition   "GPT detected. Please create a BIOS-Boot partition (>1MB, unformatted filesystem, bios_grub flag). This can be performed via tools such as Gparted. Then try again." but I've already got a partition with and EFI folder in it.
[04:07] <est31> yes
[04:07] <somsip> MichaelHabib1: CNAME record should point to your noip FQDN (myserver.noip.com)
[04:07] <est31> yes MichaelHabib1
[04:08] <need-boot-fix> I'm using 14.10
[04:08] <HelpeRX> i installed libre4.4 where is the location of the .desktop files if not in /usr/share/applications
[04:08] <est31> need-boot-fix, have you re-installed your bootloader?
[04:09] <ir7466> can I dangle the carrot of easy SO points? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/29981468/arial-and-courier-not-working-on-ubuntu
[04:10] <cfhowlett> ir7466, INSTALL ARIAL
[04:10] <need-boot-fix> est31, that is what I'm trying to do with the boot repair disk (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair)
[04:10] <est31> doesnt work?
[04:10] <wafflejock> HelpeRX, run sudo updatedb, locate *.desktop
[04:10] <HelpeRX> thanks broskii
[04:11] <HelpeRX> so something like this
[04:11] <HelpeRX> sudo updatedb, locate libre*.desktop
[04:11] <MichaelHabib1> somsip: do I need that if Im using the IP of my home DNS server as Primary DNS ? would it still matter if the domain im using is owned by me as the 1st DNS server I hit is my HomeDNS so I should be able to use any domain I set ?
[04:11] <petrvs> ir7466: already told you what to do
[04:11] <wafflejock> HelpeRX, yeah not sure what the libre files are called though could grep the result too so you can do case insensitive
[04:11] <ir7466> petrvs: I don't think I was getting any messages
[04:12] <ir7466> can you please paste your response?
[04:12] <HelpeRX> yea
[04:12] <HelpeRX> thanks
[04:12] <ir7466> My last message was "can I dangle the carrot of easy SO points? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/29981468/arial-and-courier-not-working-on-ubuntu"
[04:12] <zykotick9> HelpeRX: fyi, "dpkg -L foo" will give you the paths of installed files
[04:12] <wafflejock> HelpeRX, yup np
[04:13] <HelpeRX> anyone here take the rhel cert exam lol
[04:13] <somsip> MichaelHabib1: why the need for DNS running on the home server? What services are you needing to access? I thought it was just apache?
[04:13] <need-boot-fix> est31, boot repair is telling me to set the bios_grub flag but it was not set on my previous drive (identical size and type) and warning bells are ringing from a conversation I had with a fellow ubuntu user about the flag.
[04:14] <need-boot-fix> so I really need help reinstalling the boot loader
[04:14] <HelpeRX> you mean reinstallign grub?
[04:14] <MichaelHabib1> somsip: apache + Bind
[04:15] <petrvs> ir7466: ttf-mscorefonts-installer from multiverse
[04:15] <need-boot-fix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10958390/
[04:15] <somsip> MichaelHabib1: And you are needing Bind for what purpose?
[04:16] <MichaelHabib1> somsip: creating domain+subdomain on my local server
[04:16] <somsip> MichaelHabib1: for apache?
[04:16] <MichaelHabib1> for apache and few other things on my network
[04:16] <ir7466> petrvs: is there no CSS solution?
[04:17] <somsip> MichaelHabib1: seems like you're outside the scope of support provided by this channel. I'm not going to be able to help.
[04:17] <MichaelHabib1> somsip: I also want to run owuncloud service from home
[04:17] <petrvs> ir7466: to... end users not having arial?
[04:18] <petrvs> ir7466: thought you were printing PDFs?
[04:18] <MichaelHabib1> all good somsip  , ty for trying
[04:19] <IcemanV9> ir7466: sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[04:19] <ir7466> petrvs: no, I just want something that looks like arial/courier
[04:19] <need-boot-fix> HelpeRX, yes not booting so using a live cd
[04:19] <ir7466> i don't need those two fonts
[04:19] <HelpeRX> o
[04:19] <HelpeRX> thats easy
[04:19] <HelpeRX> well
[04:19] <HelpeRX> first mkdir /boot
[04:19] <HelpeRX> mount the boot partiton
[04:19] <HelpeRX> with taht
[04:19] <HelpeRX> then mount some of the directores
[04:19] <HelpeRX> brb let me type this up neatly
[04:20] <petrvs> ir7466: mmm, but why not just get them if you want something that looks like them?
[04:20] <ir7466> I'm not sure what the sideeffects will be for other pdf generators in the system
[04:21] <petrvs> you can use liberation serif/mono, but I'm not sure what the point would be
[04:21] <HelpeRX> need-boot-fix what is your boot partition
[04:21] <petrvs> ir7466: side effects of what? Using the font it's looking for?
[04:21] <HelpeRX> so i can sub in the command
[04:21] <MichaelHabib1> somsip: est31 last question promise, in theory, if I have a working home DNS server with Bnd+Apache(and few other services) then I could use it as a would do with a hosting service?  so I can create DNS Master Zone with A records pointing to any IP I want as long as MyDevice has DNS set to that of my HomeDNS ?
[04:21] <ir7466> ie. there are other pdf reports being generated that I suspect people are attached to (the format)
[04:22] <petrvs> ir7466: ...wha?
[04:22] <TotalEclipse> Hi anybody in here?
[04:22] <petrvs> ir7466: make up your mind
[04:22] <petrvs> TotalEclipse: nope
[04:22] <ir7466> what is the name of ubuntu's fall back font?
[04:22] <somsip> MichaelHabib1: there is no need to use IPs with a DDNS provider. Use a CNAME entry pointing to the FQDN for your DDNS address
[04:22] <ir7466> so I could change the other pdf's... if there is resistance to the font change
[04:23] <PSGroup95> What is the command to clear the history?
[04:23] <MichaelHabib1> TotalEclipse: I guess your are new here ? if you have a question then ask it, if someone knows the answer will reply.
[04:23] <wafflejock> PSGroup95, what history?
[04:24] <TotalEclipse> So I tried to add a repo with apt-add-repository and now my system wont boot
[04:24] <ir7466> actually you're right petrvs... i'm being difficult
[04:24] <ir7466> i'll just install the font package
[04:24] <petrvs> PSGroup95: help history
[04:24] <petrvs> ir7466: :p
[04:24] <HelpeRX> well i odnt know ur thing but this is what i would do mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/ mkdir -p /mnt/boot/efi mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot/efi/ for i in /dev/ /dev/pts /proc/ /sys/ run ; do mount -B $i /mnt/$i ; done  chroot /mnt/ sudo apt-get --reinstall grub
[04:24] <ir7466> petrvs and IcemanV9: if necessary, what is required to uninstall that package?
[04:24] <petrvs> it's like, history -c; history -w or something
[04:24] <ir7466> ie. the opposite of: sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[04:24] <petrvs> I always do history -c; rm ~/.bash_history 'cause I forget
[04:24] <somsip> ir7466: apt-get purge {package}
[04:25] <wafflejock> yeah bash history can just get rid of the file
[04:25] <petrvs> ir7466: you can see what all it puts and where with dpkg -L
[04:25] <TotalEclipse> Well I didnt actually install the package I just added the repo
[04:26] <need-boot-fix> HelpeRX: /dev/sda2 is the root partion, its GPT formatted so there is also a 512MB EFI partition at /dev/sda1
[04:26] <HelpeRX> perfeect
[04:26] <HelpeRX> then do what i pasted
[04:26] <HelpeRX> lol
[04:26] <wafflejock> TotalEclipse, how far does you booting up get at this point do you see grub?
[04:26] <PSGroup95> Does the command, history -c, work?
[04:26] <IcemanV9> just what somsip said ... sudo apt-get purge ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[04:27] <IcemanV9> Arial/Courier fonts will be there once you installed them
[04:27] <TotalEclipse> Yeah I select the os in grub but then it hangs on the loading screen
[04:27] <HelpeRX> so this is what you should do mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/ mkdir -p /mnt/boot/efi mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi/ for i in /dev/ /dev/pts /proc/ /sys/ run ; do mount -B $i /mnt/$i ; done  chroot /mnt/ sudo apt-get --reinstall grub
[04:28] <IcemanV9> looks great on web browsers if you want to see
[04:28] <petrvs> PSGroup95: for bash, at least, yes, 'help history'
[04:28] <wafflejock> PSGroup95, should work fine the history is just stored in ~/.bash_history though
[04:28] <ir7466> petrvs/IcemanV9/somsip: I get this error
[04:28] <ir7466> "Package ttf-mscorefonts-installer is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[04:28] <petrvs> PSGroup95: yeah there are two copies, history -c; history -w I think works, or history -c; rm ~/.bash_history
[04:28] <HelpeRX> lol ir7466
[04:28] <HelpeRX> just go to a pc and copy the fonts into msst
[04:28] <petrvs> ir7466: error from what?
[04:29] <HelpeRX> folder
[04:29] <ir7466> when I run sudo apt-get
[04:29] <IcemanV9> enable multiverse in repo first, then install
[04:29] <wafflejock> TotalEclipse, with the OS selected don't hit enter instead hit e, when you see the boot options if it has quiet remove that and add nosplash and nomodeset if it isn't there then hit ctrl+x to boot
[04:29] <TotalEclipse> Yeah I can select the os in grub but then it hangs on the loading screen
[04:30] <wafflejock> TotalEclipse, the nomodeset will use the vesa video drivers in case it's a graphics problem and with quiet gone you should see everything that's being started by the init system
[04:31] <wafflejock> think it's ctrl+x in there I could be wrong though, haven't had to do it in a while
[04:32] <TotalEclipse> Ok what part do I add those to?
[04:33] <wafflejock> TotalEclipse, quiet you should see in there and you want to remove
[04:33] <wafflejock> TotalEclipse, that's a boot parameter that will typically show some loading screen instead of listing all the services/programs as they start
[04:33] <wafflejock> the other params you can just put in it's place
[04:36] <TotalEclipse> I get an unkown command  "nomodeset". Also there isnt a quiet parameter.
[04:38] <wafflejock> TotalEclipse, see here http://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-do-i-set-nomodeset-after-ive-already-installed-ubuntu
[04:39] <OerHeks> TotalEclipse, so what ppa did you add?
[04:39] <ir7466> test
[04:39] <wafflejock> ir7466, ack
[04:39] <ir7466> have I been booted again?
[04:39] <OerHeks> ir7466, failed.
[04:40] <ir7466> [12:29] <IcemanV9> enable multiverse in repo first, then install
[04:40] <ir7466> was that directed at me?
[04:40] <TotalEclipse> Librecad
[04:41] <petrvs> wafflejock: grep
[04:42] <IcemanV9> ir7466: yes
[04:42] <kk0710> Hey guys I want to be able to remote desktop into my ubuntu 14.04 desktop, any easy to do instructions out there?
[04:42] <ir7466> what is multiverse?
[04:43] <wafflejock> petrvs, oh heh I meant like SYN / ACK (signal/acknowledge) was unaware of ack related to grep
[04:43] <OerHeks> !multiverse
[04:43] <petrvs> wafflejock: bash!
[04:43] <andy__> !hi
[04:43] <petrvs> hi andy
[04:43] <TotalEclipse> Ok it gets past the list and then black screens
[04:44] <OerHeks> TotalEclipse, did it boot oke before adding that ppa?
[04:44] <wafflejock> TotalEclipse, on the black screen can you hit Ctrl+Alt+F1 and get to a prompt?
[04:44] <TotalEclipse> Yes
[04:44] <OerHeks> see wafflejock
[04:44] <TotalEclipse> No prompt
[04:45] <andy__> Hi petrvs.
[04:45] <wafflejock> hmmm well that's no good
[04:45] <OerHeks> ctrl alt f2
[04:48] <TotalEclipse> So when I try to boot the screen flashes and then hangs on the list
[04:49] <wafflejock> TotalEclipse, ah okay it hangs with the list still there
[04:49] <wafflejock> TotalEclipse, whats the last thing you see in the list?
[04:49] <wafflejock> is everything [OK] ?
[04:50] <TotalEclipse> "saned disabled; edit /etc/default/saned"
[04:52] <TotalEclipse> The last thing I see is "saned disabled; edit /etc/default/saned"
[04:54] <TotalEclipse> Ok I have a terminal now
[04:57] <wafflejock> TotalEclipse, sorry hard to follow what's going on, so did you change anything between it not allowing you to get to a terminal and this time?
[04:58] <TotalEclipse> Yeah I have terminal now
[04:58] <wafflejock> TotalEclipse, believe saned is just the scanning daemon which shouldn't be a problem
[04:58] <TotalEclipse> No I didnt
[04:59] <wafflejock> okay in the terminal try sudo service lightdm restart, it should try to start up the GUI and you can switch to it with Ctrl+Alt+F7 otherwise Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get back, can try checking dmesg as well to see if it has errors
[04:59] <wafflejock> TotalEclipse, ^
[05:03] <Yiota> what is the host key in VM?
[05:03] <Yiota> switch to fullscreen hotkey is Host key + f
[05:04] <OerHeks> Yiota, in what VM? KVM? Virtualbox? VMware?
[05:06] <Yiota> OerHeks: oracle virtualbox
[05:07] <OerHeks> R ctrl as standard.
[05:07] <Yiota> thank you!
[05:38] <kk0710> I am tryin to set up my plex media server with an external drive.  I added plex to the plugdev group but it still won't access the contents of my external drive.  I notice that when I do group plex it also shows "nogroup" not sure if that is the problem
[05:42] <stomanata> Hi, i think that i have problem with searching for files. Can somebody help me
[05:42] <stomanata> For example in my /home i have  file 113.jpg
[05:42] <stomanata> but whereis 133   or find -iname 113  doesn`t return any result as root
[05:43] <kk0710> mother of god this is turning into a nightmare
[05:43] <stomanata> a long time ago in slackware i use updatedb and then locate *** and it work..
[05:43] <kk0710> now I can't delete plex from the nogroup
[05:47] <ajnr> Hi, I am NLP researcher and for my research work I need a system configuration minn 8-16 GB RAM. Can any one suggests me which one will be best. I ma 4GB RAM HP Probook 4430s, but after installing ubuntu it has some beterry optimization issue. Please Suggests me a system which will have ubuntu  with 8GB RAM/16GB RAM and Good bettary backup
[05:48] <cfhowlett> ajnr, dell developer edition xps13 or m3800 version
[05:48] <RepThis1> ajnr: what is NLP?
[05:49] <ajnr> NLP=Natural language processing RepThis1
[05:49] <RepThis1> ajnr: there is also https://system76.com/ which deal exclusively with ubuntu/linux
[05:50] <cfhowlett> ajnr, http://www.dell.com/learn/us/en/555/campaigns/xps-linux-laptop
[05:50] <ajnr> cfhowlett , RepThis1, okey.
[05:52] <ajnr> ubuntu has some battery  optimization issue in HP Probook4430s , any suggestion how to optimize. It hardly  gives 4-50 min backup :(
[05:55] <cfhowlett> ajnr, check the health of your battery?  they do wear out.  but it's true that linux and battery are rarely BFF
[05:56] <arul> How is Ubuntu not affected by viruses?
[05:56] <cfhowlett> !virus | arul
[05:57] <cfhowlett> arul, not true.  RARELY effected by virii is more accurate.
[06:00] <ajnr> cfhowlett, BFF means ?
[06:00] <cfhowlett> ajnr, "Best Female Friend" ... sorry :)
[06:01] <damascene> Hi, How to debug keyboard layout switching issues? GNOME Shell 3.12.2 Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
[06:01] <kk0710> does anyone know what "nogroup" is.  I am trying to remove plex from it but it says it is their primary group
[06:01] <ajnr> cfhowlett, :) I thought , Best Friends Forever... Dell and System 76 are not shipped in India. I am from India
[06:01] <cfhowlett> ajnr, see, now, little details like that should be mentioned up front!
[06:02] <ajnr> cfhowlett, okey
[06:02] <roketyyang> who can help me with this installation problem :http://askubuntu.com/questions/616310/cant-setup-installation-from-my-laptop
[06:03] <cfhowlett> ajnr, got international friends traveling?  dell m3800 is not sold in China, but I had  co-worker who was visiting in the USA agree to hand carry one back to Beijing for me.
[06:10] <ajnr> cfhowlett, okey
[06:29] <Neo9> [Fri May 01 11:55:26 2015] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[06:29] <Neo9> [Fri May 01 11:55:27 2015] [notice] Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) mod_ssl/2.2.22 OpenSSL/1.0.1 configured -- resuming normal operations
[06:29] <Neo9> [Fri May 01 11:55:36 2015] [warn] proxy: No protocol handler was valid for the URL /services/v1/. If you are using a DSO version of mod_proxy, make sure the proxy submodules are included in the configuration using LoadModule.
[06:29] <Neo9> [Fri May 01 11:55:36 2015] [warn] proxy: No protocol handler was valid for the URL /favicon.ico. If you are using a DSO version of mod_proxy, make sure the proxy submodules are included in the configuration using LoadModule.
[06:29] <Neo9> [Fri May 01 11:55:56 2015] [warn] proxy: No protocol handler was valid for the URL /services/v1/. If you are using a DSO version of mod_proxy, make sure the proxy submodules are included in the configuration using LoadModule.
[06:29] <Neo9> [Fri May 01 11:55:57 2015] [warn] proxy: No protocol handler was valid for the URL /favicon.ico. If you are using a DSO version of mod_proxy, make sure the proxy submodules are included in the configuration using LoadModule.
[06:44] <gizero> Is there some documentation on how to enable automatic startup of svnserve on Ubuntu 15.04, now that it uses systemd? The documentation at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion mentions how to to it with "upstart", but not systemd.
[06:45] <gizero> I would prefer not to use xinetd.
[06:51] <Highway95> How do I stop ABIWord from opening up everytime i log in? This only started when I upgraded to 15.04
[06:52] <jesso> Hello. I have an old ThinkPad T40 with no wifi (a component could be installed internally I believe). I'm interested in buying an external wifi adaptor. Any suggestions? Maybe this is more of an off topic question, but I suppose my main concern is that the drivers of said adaptor be 100% opensource and compatible with buntu. Thanks.
[06:52] <gizero> Highway95, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/abiword/+bug/1432271
[06:54] <theJian> hellome, how do I host a wifi hotspot in Ubuntu 14.04
[06:56] <andy__> theJian, Please be more specific about your question.
[06:56] <theJian> settings >> network >> wireless >> use as hotspot, but I can't find wifi hotspot in my android device
[06:57] <gizero> theJian, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxW2-m8ajHw
[06:58] <andy__> That video has guitar music and everything.
[06:59] <theJian> andy__, thanks
[07:00] <andy__> theJian, I am not sure how I helped, but you are welcome.
[07:00] <leoubu> ciao
[07:01] <leoubu> ci sono italiani in rete
[07:01] <andy__> theJian, gizero seemed to have sent you the link.
[07:02] <leoubu> Italy
[07:02] <theJian> gizero, thank you
[07:02] <theJian> sorry,
[07:02] <theJian> thanks you two guys
[07:03] <breV> the folx over at Cryptsy want me to do a malware scan ... what prgm should i use to satisfy them?  (btw Ubuntu 14.10)
[07:03] <andy__> theJian, It is no big deal.
[07:03] <andy__> theJian, You are welcome.
[07:04] <andy__> breV, Have you tried clamscan?
[07:04] <breV> havent nope ... didnt know what to look for
[07:05] <andy__> Try the command, apt-cache search virus
[07:05] <somsip> !av | breV
[07:05] <andy__> It will give you a list of packages that can scan for viruses.
[07:05] <breV> somsip I know ... but they dont   ;)
[07:06] <somsip> breV: it has a link. The link tells you about software you can use.
[07:07] <andy__> I recommend the package clamtk for scanning for viruses.
[07:07] <andy__> You can point it to your Windows partition.
[07:07] <breV> i thought clamtk was only the front end graphic
[07:08] <andy__> Right.
[07:08] <somsip> !info clamav
[07:08]  * breV has no windows partition
[07:11]  * andy__ I wonder why Cryptsy wants you to do a virus scan?
[07:12] <breV> a deposit went bad
[07:13] <andy__> Was that your fault?
[07:14] <breV> nope ... they showed me the address...i sent to it...now i gotta go through the whole rigamerole to get them to admit not my fault
[07:15] <andy__> breV http://blog.cryptsy.com/post/100831839452/response-regarding-lawsuit
[07:18] <damascene> Hi, How to debug keyboard layout switching issues? GNOME Shell 3.12.2 Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
[07:18] <andy__> breV, Did you send them real money or one of the cryptocurrencies?
[07:19] <breV> just faucet crypto ... TG    less than $5
[07:22] <andy__> You can probably verify your transaction in the blockchain.  It is not a Ubuntu issue.
[07:23] <andy__> *err, It is not an Ubuntu issue.
[07:23] <breV> yup   it verified in BC ... but not to "their" wallet apparently
[07:27] <andy__> It was probably the correct bitcoin wallet.
[07:27] <andy__> They just want you to do a virus scan, and delay pushing the matter further.
[07:27] <andy__> That is my guess.
[07:28] <andy__> You can run clamscan or avgscan from Linux pretty easily, if you want to scan for viruses.
[07:29] <breV> yeah    thats my thoughts exactly ... running clam now
[07:30] <andy__> You agree with the idea of them trying to delay you, as well?
[07:31] <breV> i agree they are trying to ... i dont agree that its right
[07:33] <breV> besides ... im at work with time to kill ... wont harm me jumping their hoops
[07:33] <breV> ")
[07:34] <breV> ack ...   :)
[07:37] <andy__> You should probably continue finding more information about Cryptsy from the bitcoin channel or one of the bitcoin-related reddits.
[07:37] <andy__> I did find something about Paul Vernon, though.
[07:37] <andy__> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361514.0
[07:41] <breV> after this experience ... i dont intend on them being my "go to" exchange
[07:44] <andy__> I agre.
[07:44] <andy__> *err,
[07:44] <andy__> *err, I agree.
[07:44] <andy__> breV, You should probably join the channel, #bitcoin.
[07:46] <breV> :)  ok    and thanks for pointing me to Clamav
[07:53] <nodebin> hi there
[07:54] <fate_> hi
[07:54] <Quapukulu> Hi
[07:54] <Neo9> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10959962/
[07:55] <nodebin> i got some problem with gnome dual boot with windows 8.1 can i ask for help here?
[07:55] <Quapukulu> yes you can ask ı think
[07:55] <nodebin> it seems that yesterday windows went in hybernation mode. Now I can't boot windows anymore
[07:56] <vikram> Hi All !  I have just installed Ubuntu 14.04.02 64 bit on my Lenovo L440 . The wifi is not working . it has RTL8192EE chip
[07:56] <nodebin> from linux I am unable to mount the windows volume
[07:56] <nodebin> it says the NTFS partition is in an unsafe state
[07:57] <nodebin> resume and shutdown windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting) or mount the volume read-pnly with the 'ro' mount option
[07:57] <vikram> as per https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1239578 it is still known issue !  :(
[07:57] <andy__> vikram, You can download a driver from Realtek.
[07:58] <vikram> I did tried from this link https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new.git
[07:59] <MrCoder> What is the plane in the background image that comes with Ubuntu?
[07:59] <vikram> andy__,  the suggestion says after instsallation , do  "Blacklist the r8192ee module"
[07:59] <vikram> which means modprobe -r  , right ?
[08:00] <MrCoder> nm, figured it out :)
[08:00] <MrCoder> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Sea_Fury
[08:00] <Quapukulu> vikram , did you see this ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2218017
[08:05] <vikram> Quapukulu, thanx but no luck
[08:07] <Quapukulu> Vikram ; Resolved by upgrading to Ubuntu 14.10. It will recognize this driver properly. However, it seems Ubuntu 14.04 and 12.04, the LTS ones, unfortunately still don't work no matter what I tried. If anyone has an answer for the LTS OS versions, please post it for others to know!
[08:09] <Quapukulu> Try upgrade your system to 14.10
[08:09] <frib> is there a channel for technology/phone related questions?
[08:14] <andy__> vikram, I have never had that problem with Realtek's ethernet driver.
[08:15] <Pod15> Is there a way to use bitlocker on Ubuntu 14 other than dislocker?
[08:15] <andy__> vikram, I just thought it would be a good idea to go to their website.  I had to install their driver on my computer as well.
[08:16] <vikram> andy__, Quapukulu  - I just added r8192ee  & .... 92_pci in blacklist.conf and its working !!
[08:17] <vikram> I tried the driver installation but that was not enough....
[08:17] <vikram> is blacklisting means stoping the default driver to load , and to force the new driver ?
[08:17] <andy__> vikram, That is great news.
[08:18] <vikram> Thank God  it worked !!
[08:18] <andy__> I think that is what it means.  It sounds like it.
[08:20] <andy__> vikram, The kernel apparently has a module that tries to be a driver for the RT8192.  I read that there is a problem with it.
[08:21] <vikram> andy__,  ok thanks !
[08:21] <Guest27591> exit
[08:28] <gregors> Folks, one question ...broken laptop monitor - i want to install ubuntu  How do see installation on external monitor ?
[08:30] <breV> what happens when u plug the ext. monitor in ... then boot the laptop up ?
[08:33] <vooze> anyone using 15.04 with high dpi screens? The mouse cursor is different in size sometimes, is there a fix for this?
[08:33] <vooze> 15.04 with unity
[08:33] <gahan> Is there a smartphone-like keyboard application for ubuntu that would let me auto-complete word by pressing space, or even better by selecting the word using touchscreen capabilities of my monitor?
[08:38] <bibi-23> I had an usb drive with ubuntu live installed on it, I wanted to erase everything on it to get an empty key. So I plugged it and deleted everything through the nautilus window that opened up, then I used gparted to delete the partition and create an new ext4 one. When I plug the usb key now, it show empty but there is another UBUNTOP1204 CD showing up... why?
[08:51] <crucidal> How do I upload a file with a curl command when the path/file contains spaces? I tried escaping with backslashes and using single quotes nested in double quotes. EXAMPLE: curl -v -k -X POST -u user:pass -F "file=@<FILE PATH/NAME WITH SPACES>" target.url
[09:01] <MonkeyDust> crucidal  try %20 for each space
[09:06] <crucidal> @MonkeyDust Thank you for you input. Unfortunately this did not resolve the problem. I'm trying to run the command in a terminal and %20 is used for URLs and not for filepaths on my linux based system I guess.
[09:08] <neopsyche> how do we know swap is "working"
[09:09] <neopsyche> If it is allocating properly? (I see swap partition 8.5gig / I have 8gig ram)
[09:09] <neopsyche> Will it automatically use that swap (partition is called Swap_1
[09:13] <pawku> Hello. I have problem with wi-fi connection. I can connect with my wifi creating hotspot on my Xperia. I cant connect straight to my router.
[09:13] <pawku> Can someone help me?
[09:14] <neopsyche> can you connect to other hotspots?
[09:15] <pawku> I havent any to check. My pc try to connect but after few min disconnect
[09:15] <pawku> with router
[09:15] <neopsyche> sounds like you may have driver issue.
[09:15] <neopsyche> version ubuntu?
[09:16] <neopsyche> also could be how your route3r is set up
[09:16] <neopsyche> sometimes can be various things
[09:16] <neopsyche> depends .. process of elimination
[09:16] <damascene> Hi, How to debug keyboard layout switching issues? GNOME Shell 3.12.2 Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
[09:16] <pawku> 14.04 lts. Its polish TriumfalnTurkafka :P
[09:16] <neopsyche> ubuntu should detect many more cards now though. used to have to use ndiswrapper
[09:16] <neopsyche> on some cards
[09:17] <neopsyche> try google your card compatability wth ubuntu
[09:17] <pawku> Card work. I am connectet with phone by wifi and phone is connected to router
[09:18] <neopsyche> ok
[09:20] <neopsyche> rather try connect to router
[09:20] <neopsyche> check ubuntu certified hardware / also forums to see compatability of your hardware
[09:20] <neopsyche> best i can do for you at the moment
[09:21] <neopsyche> lot of people possibly off on break today
[09:21] <pawku> hmm ok. Thanks a lot. I will try forum in that case. See you
[09:21] <neopsyche> this is not a paid chat system. volunteers
[09:21] <neopsyche> keep well
[09:21] <pawku> I know :)
[09:21] <neopsyche> glad you are trying
[09:21] <neopsyche> it can be tough
[09:21] <neopsyche> but security is worth it
[09:27] <`hypermist`> Ubuntu-touch is it downloadablee ?
[09:28] <SchrodingersScat> !touch | `hypermist`
[09:29] <`hypermist`> Damn i dont have any of the supported devices..
[09:30] <saurabhdare>  Hi, I am using 14.04.2 after upgrading to 3.13.51 kernel version; I'm getting errors on bootup
[09:30] <saurabhdare> http://askubuntu.com/questions/616670/error-message-on-booting-up-ubuntu-14-04-2
[09:30] <saurabhdare> However, this solution doesn't work
[09:30] <`hypermist`> Actually i can install it unoffically
[09:30] <`hypermist`> But if i did i couldnt use any of my apps could i
[09:32] <saurabhdare> ping
[09:32] <`hypermist`> pong
[09:35] <saurabhdare> pinh
[09:35] <saurabhdare> ping
[09:35] <ablest1980> pong
[09:36] <saurabhdare> haha
[09:36] <ablest1980> XD
[09:36] <saurabhdare> frowns
[09:36] <ablest1980> :(
[09:37] <saurabhdare> hehe
[09:41] <Rene_> hi everybody, is there away to lock the clock in ubuntu so only root can alter it ? see: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/05/01/ubuntu_to_shutter_yearold_clock_unlock_bug/
[09:47] <Dro__> hi, i installed vdr twice : first time using apt-get and then manually.. after i used apt-get remove --purge vdr  the command "vdr" is still working !
[09:47] <Dro__> anyone have an idea how to completly remove it please ?
[09:48] <twigz> Hello hello
[09:48] <Rene_> dro maybe you can search for vdr in the synaptic package manager ?
[09:48] <Rene_> maybe it can still see something, not sure
[09:48] <Ben64> Dro__: if you installed it "manually" you'll have to undo that
[09:49] <SchrodingersScat> Dro__: you could try 'which vdr'? you say you installed it manually, so that's probably still around
[09:49] <Rene_> I will aks my own question again :) , is there away to lock the clock in ubuntu so only root can alter it ? see: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/05/01/ubuntu_to_shutter_yearold_clock_unlock_bug/
[09:49] <Dro__> SchrodingersScat, which vdr
[09:49] <Dro__> /usr/local/bin/vdr
[09:49] <Dro__> i just have to delete /usr/local/bin/vdr ?
[09:50] <Dro__> Ben64, the problem is that i installed it using 'make', i don't know how to undo that //
[09:50] <Ben64> Dro__: consult the documentation or the makefile
[09:55] <tos-1> Dro__: Hope, that the makefile provides a "uninstall" target. Otherwise read the "install" target carefully and undo every op. Next time use something like checkinstall.
[09:55] <Dro__> tos-1, no --uninstall option :(
[09:57] <tos-1> Dro__: No, a uninstall target, which enables you to run "make uninstall": See if `grep "^uninstall:" Makefile` outputs something; and consult the documentation like Ben64 said.
[09:57] <Dro__> i installed it from here https://github.com/FernetMenta/xbmc
[09:58] <Ben64> it has an uninstall
[09:58] <Rene_> what would happen if i made the command "date" only accessible by root ? would it stop this clock bug ?
[09:58] <Dro__> Ben64, how can i do it ?
[09:59] <bekks> Rene_: No. An attacker with physical access can gain root privileges easily.
[09:59] <Ben64> Dro__: make uninstall
[10:00] <Rene_> so it's some other obscure way that triggers the setting of a new time in this clock set bug ?
[10:00] <Rene_> i would need to install the latest version of sudo ? and only that will help ?
[10:01] <Rene_> outside of ubuntu
[10:02] <Ben64> Rene_: if you want to risk breaking your system, sure
[10:03] <Rene_> it's weird that this bug is not concidered severe or what ever
[10:03] <`hypermist`> Will ubuntu touch run android apps XD?
[10:03] <Rene_> as a virus could use it to escelate privilidge after i use sudo
[10:03] <bekks> Rene_: Just wait for the update.
[10:04] <Rene_> well in the story it says the ubuntu devs dont care and it will not be fixed
[10:04] <Rene_> the bug is already a year old
[10:04] <Rene_> and that it might get fixed in 15.10
[10:05] <Dro__> Ben64, i'm sorry, its not the link i used, that was the kodi/xbmc link.. 1 sec
[10:05] <Rene_> im on 12 lts so it will never get fixed according to the article
[10:05] <bekks> Rene_: So upgrade to 14.04
[10:05] <Rene_> no its also bugged
[10:05] <Rene_> all versions from 12 till 15 have the bug
[10:06] <`hypermist`> can anyonee answer my question ?
[10:06] <Ben64> Dro__: doesn't change the answer, either use uninstall, consult the documentation, or manually remove every file it installed by looking at the makefile
[10:06] <cluelessperson> Question, what's the quickeest and easiest way to setup a mail server in debian to get emails from outside?
[10:06] <cluelessperson> like webmaster@host.com
[10:06] <bekks> Rene_: And thats a justification for staying on a release that will never get fixed? Good joke :)
[10:06] <Ben64> Rene_: it's very unlikely to be a deal
[10:06] <Ben64> cluelessperson: ask #debian
[10:07] <Rene_> atm no release will get fixed, and it 'maybe' gets fixed if 15.10 comes out
[10:07] <Rene_> so yeh i cant do anything at all
[10:07] <Rene_> to me this is a gaping security hole
[10:07] <Ben64> it isn't though, if you actually look at it
[10:07] <cluelessperson> Ben42, ubuntu server si what I'm using, ubuntu is a subset of debian
[10:08] <bekks> Rene_: The security hole is you letting an attacker physically access your machine.
[10:08] <Rene_> if a virus was loaded, it could not get sudo rights this way ?
[10:08] <Ben64> cluelessperson: then don't come into #ubuntu talking about debian
[10:08] <Rene_> why physical acces ?
[10:08] <cluelessperson> Ben64, Ubuntu IS debian, dude.
[10:08] <cluelessperson> jesus
[10:08] <Ben64> cluelessperson: it really isn't
[10:08] <bekks> Rene_: ""I don't see a way for an attacker, without physical access, to use an arbitrary code execution vulnerability in combination with the issue that you've described in this bug to elevate his/her privileges," he says."
[10:09] <cluelessperson> Ben64, based on it
[10:09] <bekks> Rene_: So you need physical access. If thats what you are afraid of, prevent it.
[10:09] <Rene_> i don't understand why you would need physical access, what is diffirent then ?
[10:10] <bekks> Rene_: Did you actually read the article you linked?
[10:10] <Rene_> what is the diffirence between having physical access and a virus running unaware of me in the background ?
[10:10] <Rene_> yes
[10:10] <Rene_> and i read all the bug reports too
[10:10] <Rene_> and tried to search for anything related to it
[10:10] <bekks> Rene_: Well, your article states you need physical access.
[10:11] <Rene_> i just don;t understand what people mean by having physical acces and how that differs from a program already running as local user on the machine
[10:11] <Rene_> how physical acces can make you do more i mean, i dont understand that
[10:13] <Rene_> i mean i can just boot with an usb and do anything i like with physical access, as long as my system is not fully encrypted
[10:15] <Rene_> anyway now i know for sure the nsa can get root access
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> NSA paranoia is so 2014!
[10:17] <Rene_> i was already paranoid before that
[10:17] <Rene_> now i just know i was right and not a loony
[10:18] <Rene_> and i know i cant stop them
[10:18] <Rene_> but i can try
[10:18] <Ben64> Rene_: please stay on topic in this channel
[10:18] <Rene_> and make it harder
[10:18] <Rene_> i was
[10:18] <Ben64> you're not, you're flooding the room with nonsense
[10:19] <Rene_> thats because nobody has explained why a localy running virus could not leverage this 'bug', im unconvinced and so are others online appart from this channel
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> Rene_  ok, but is no place for discussion
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> this is*
[10:20] <Rene_> oke im sorry
[10:20] <tos-1> Rene_: A local virus could for sure monitor your keystrokes and therefore sooner or later get your root password.
[10:20] <Rene_> that sounds scary
[10:21] <Ben64> yeah, so don't get a virus
[10:21] <tos-1> Rene_: If you want to get rid of this particular bug without updating sudo, deny users from resetting the time.
[10:21] <Rene_> how do i do that ? i asked before but nobody seemed to have an awnser :D
[10:22] <tos-1> I would have answered if I knew it. :P
[10:22] <Rene_> oke :P
[10:22] <tos-1> However, there has to be a possibility to do that.
[10:22] <Rene_> it's hard to search for it, i get all kinds of pages with locking stuff or other kinds of clocks :D
[10:23] <tos-1> Just stay here, eventually somebody will know it.
[10:30] <jjavaholic> how can I change the commandline that opens docky mounts from nautilus to thunar?
[10:30] <Rene_> your asking how to change the program that opens a specific file type ?
[10:33] <jjavaholic> rene: yes
[10:33] <Rene_> normaly you can ask to open a file with a different program
[10:34] <Rene_> when you do that , you can then say to alter the default program to open the file with
[10:34] <jjavaholic> there is no option to do that with the docky dock app
[10:34] <Rene_> so right click on the file -> open with -> other aplication
[10:35] <Rene_> ah oke sorry
[10:35] <hecksalots> Clearly 15.04 has shutdown restart issues.
[10:36] <Rene_> sorry im unfamilliar with docky app
[10:37] <jjavaholic> I think it would be the same way that you would open a mount point
[10:37] <hecksalots> Rene_: docky is like Macs dock
[10:37] <Rene_> oke now i even know less, as i have never used a mac :D
[10:38] <enchilado> OS X Yosemite is gorgeous, you should consider switching to it
[10:39] <hecksalots> jjavaholic: mount points usually are in media folder
[10:39] <Rene_> i build my own pc's so i can't run os x :')
[10:40] <jjavaholic> there does appear to be an option in Removable drives and media to run an app when a CD or DVD is plugged in but not an external drive.
[10:40] <jjavaholic> unless I have missed it
[10:40] <hecksalots> enchilado: no it's not
[10:40] <enchilado> lol okay hecksalots
[10:40] <enchilado> I liked your pm
[10:41] <gjaekel> I did run an update and now, there's no sound anymore from any application. But it works on login and from the sound test. How to trace it down?
[10:41] <Rene_> do you have an addon soundcard ?
[10:41] <enchilado> hecksalots seems to be using this channel to find people to harass via PM
[10:41] <enchilado> Has this happened to anyone else?
[10:41] <jjavaholic> there is an applications tab in sound settings
[10:42] <gjaekel> jjavaholic: Yes.
[10:42] <jjavaholic> I would look there first
[10:42] <jjavaholic> and check it isn't muted for said application first
[10:43] <hecksalots> !OPS enchilado
[10:43] <enchilado> ...
[10:43] <hecksalots> enchilado: Is PM me foul language.
 Wow dude. "son of a bitch" is four words
[10:44] <gjaekel> jjavaholic: it isn't muted because i hear the test sound. And i did not mute any application before reboot. And it can't be an "accidentical", because not anny application sounds now. Even mpg123 from the terminal.
[10:45] <gjaekel> jjavaholic: Hey! sudo mpg123 foo.mp3 does sound!
[10:46] <Rene_> is your current user in the audio group ?
[10:47] <gjaekel> Rene_: Wait ...
[10:47] <Rene_> if not do: sudo addgroup <username> audio
[10:48] <gjaekel> Rene_: 'id' don't show that.
[10:48] <Rene_> add your self to the audio group
[10:48] <Rene_> sudo addgroup <username> audio
[10:48] <gjaekel> Rene_: I don't change anything? Is this a bug?
[10:49] <Rene_> no i had to add my self to when i installed ubuntu idk
[10:49] <Rene_> too*
[10:49] <gjaekel> Rene_: No local user is in the audio group ...
[10:49] <Rene_> yeh just add your self to the audio group, and try play a sound again
[10:50] <hecksalots> Rene_: he should log out first.
[10:50] <gjaekel> Rene_: I have to quit the X session first, right?
[10:50] <Rene_> ah i didnt know
[10:50] <jjavaholic> by looking it the applications tabs as you open and close test applications to can see if said app(s) register with pulseaudio (assumed)
[10:50] <Rene_> i thought you could just do that on the command line
[10:51] <Rene_> as your just adding rights to your user
[10:51] <Rene_> if you have no audio rights you wont hear sound
[10:51] <gjaekel> Rene_: ... within a new shell. I'll try ...
[10:51] <Rene_> yeh
[10:53] <Rene_> i had a problem my self with sounds where alsamixer was set to use the onboard rather then my soundblaster card, which could also be happening
[10:53] <jjavaholic> having a test user account would work here so you don't tamper with your user privileges and muck them up
[10:56] <gjaekel> Rene_: No success, unfortunately.
[10:56] <Rene_> can you fire up alsamixer , see what its settings are ?
[10:56] <Rene_> do: alsamixer
[10:56] <Rene_> in cmdline
[10:56] <gjaekel> Rene_: I already did it - nothing unusual.
[10:57] <tos-1> Rene_: alsamixer can't be set to any particular soundcard. It's just a mixer.
[10:57] <Rene_> aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[10:57] <Rene_> does this do anything ?
[10:58] <gjaekel> It just happens after last update half an hour ago. I rebootet because there was a new kernel. But now i even have started with the kernel before without any change.
[10:58] <Rene_> aplay doesnt play the wav ?
[10:58] <gjaekel> Rene_: No.
[10:59] <gjaekel> But the "test" buttons in the sound mixer contoll
[10:59] <Rene_> and: sudo aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav     ,works ?
[10:59] <gjaekel> Rene_: Exact.
[10:59] <Rene_> yeh there must be a setting set different somewhere
[11:00] <Rene_> you aded your self to the audio group right ?
[11:00] <Rene_> what does this say ?: sudo aplay -l
[11:01] <Rene_> do you have an addon soundcard next to the onboard & videocard soundcards ?
[11:02] <Rene_> does:  sudo aplay -l   ,say the name of yur soundcard ?
[11:02] <gjaekel> Rene_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10960996/
[11:03] <gjaekel> Rene_: Sound should go to Intel HDA, HDMI isn't used.
[11:04] <Rene_> i wonder why this is in there: "Home directory not accessible: Permission denied"
[11:04] <Rene_> maybe alsa can't access some directory it needs
[11:05] <gjaekel> Rene_: Me too, by the way
[11:05] <Rene_> because it doesn't say that when i do the command
[11:05] <gjaekel> Rene_: Because it's root, it must be missing.
[11:06] <Rene_> yeh check if sound mosules are installed
[11:06] <Rene_> find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd
[11:06] <Rene_> still root could play the wav
[11:06] <Rene_> im copy pasting stuff from: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[11:07] <function9x> is there a program that can tweak my wireless adapter?
[11:08] <Rene_> it suggest trying to reinstall modules
[11:08] <Rene_> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` linux-generic
[11:08] <Rene_> i think something is missing somewhere
[11:08] <Rene_> not sure what
[11:08] <Rene_> like you said it's root doing it so folders are maybe missing or files
[11:08] <gjaekel> Rene_: This guide will not offer a solution, i think. Because "sound is working" ...
[11:10] <maziar> is there any html irc
[11:10] <somsip> maziar: #html
[11:10] <Rene_> i would take a look if alsamixer started as root and as a normal user have some how a different setting that you can see
[11:10] <gjaekel> Rene_: (I was not in the audio group before, it can't be a primary reason)
[11:10] <Rene_> as i still would suspect its a settings issue somehow
[11:11] <Rene_> you could try to compair the two in two terminals see if you notice a difference
[11:11] <maziar> somsip,  #html :Cannot send to channel
[11:11] <somsip> !alis | maziar (maybe I misremembered the name)
[11:12] <gjaekel> Rene_: I'll going to figure out who is throwing the "home directory ..." message.
[11:12] <Rene_> oke :)
[11:12] <Rene_> yeh i'm sort of out of ideas sorry
[11:13] <Rene_> as a last resort you could try to purge all setting files and reinstall alsa and/or pulse audio, maybe it fixes it
[11:18] <gjaekel> Rene_: Solved, but don't know why! By switching around the ouput sources withing the applet.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/10961084/
[11:18] <Rene_> good that it's solved :D
[11:18] <Rene_> make sure new alsa settings get saved
[11:18] <ablest1980> hello how can i delete history and tmp files from my system?
[11:19] <Rene_> not sure if you alter alsa settings with it, but normaly i need to do a: alsactl store
[11:19] <Rene_> to make sure it sticks
[11:21] <gjaekel> Rene_: I constanly have to switch it around because i have different sinks (local monitor, home audio amp via home server, bluetooth soundbar in kitchen). But something seems to have blocked after or because of the update.
[11:22] <gjaekel> The applet was showing  the local source but pactl says that nothing was running.
[11:22] <Rene_> ah oke, never used that
[11:23] <gjaekel> Rene_: Now I know where to look on next time. Thank you for discussion!
[11:23] <Rene_> np :D
[11:23] <gjaekel> Rene_: You're from the Netherlands?
[11:23] <Rene_> yes
[11:24] <gjaekel> Rene_: Greetings from Frankfurt/Main.
[11:24] <Rene_> moin moin :)
[11:24] <Rene_> ich kom aus Wageningen :)
[11:24] <gjaekel> Rene_: moin-moin, i was born in Osnabrück.
[11:24] <Rene_> :) nice
[11:26] <gjaekel> Rene_: Just for interest: You get notice of the chancel of the local bike race from your news sources?
[11:26] <Rene_> local bike race ?
[11:27] <ablest1980> anyonr know how can i delete history and tmp files from my system and keep thr deleted/
[11:27] <Rene_> i almost don't follow dutch news :) the german news on the other hand is very interesting atm, luckely i understand german:)
[11:27] <skysurfer422> hi all, how you all doing ?
[11:27] <ablest1980> like auto everytime reboot
[11:27] <ablest1980> hi
[11:27] <ablest1980> im ok u
[11:27] <ablest1980> hallo rene_
[11:28] <Rene_> <ablest198 install bleacbit
[11:28] <Rene_> bleachbit
[11:28] <ablest1980> i was now i will
[11:28] <skysurfer422> not to bad ablest
[11:28] <ablest1980> tanks
[11:28] <ablest1980> thanks
[11:28] <gjaekel> Rene_: The former called "Henninger Turm", now "Frankfurt/Eschborn". It's always on 1st of May and well-know in the scene
[11:28] <Rene_> bleachbit can clean up your temp files and browser cache etc
 ah oke :)
[11:29] <ablest1980> ever play rtcs rene?
[11:29] <ablest1980> rtcw
[11:29] <Rene_> rtcw ?.?
[11:29] <Rene_> i play world of tanks mostly :)
[11:29] <ablest1980> return to castle wolfenstein
[11:29] <Rene_> with wine 1.7.4-csmt
[11:29] <Rene_> ah o i dont have it :)
[11:30] <ablest1980> i play cs
[11:30] <ablest1980> with steamos
[11:30] <Rene_> i got the old cs in steam, i play more day of defeat then though :)
[11:30] <tos-1> ablest1980: If you do not want to have them collected at all(?), stop the collection itself instead of removing the files on every reboot.
[11:30] <gjaekel> Rene_: I've to play Greedy Guns (http://tio-atum.itch.io/greedyguns) with my daugther, now :)
[11:30] <Rene_> oke have fun o/ :)
[11:31] <ablest1980> ok tos
[11:31] <Rene_> i delete temp files on boot because i have mounted my temp folders as a ram fs
[11:31] <gjaekel> Thank you, Rene_ and others! Bye!
[11:31] <ablest1980> tos-a stop them from collecting in the first place
[11:31] <ablest1980> tos-1 stop them from collecting in the first place
[11:34] <tos-1> ablest1980: For file usage, etc. I think there is an option in the control center; otherwise remove the daemons, that are responsible (iirc Ubuntu currently uses zeitgeist).
[11:34] <ablest1980> i mean the auto clean thing
[11:35] <tos-1> Which auto clean thing?
[11:35] <ablest1980> i apt
[11:35] <tos-1> I just suggested that, since it sounds like you do not want to have this kind of information collected at all.
[11:36] <ablest1980> there is a cmd in terminal for it
[11:36] <ablest1980> ok
[11:36] <ablest1980> ty
[11:38] <Dro__> i always have this messages in syslog: nullmailer[1488]: Starting delivery, 183 message(s) in queue.
[11:39] <Dro__> anyone have an idea what it can be?
[11:40] <tmp_exl> hello, how can i add an extra harddrive to my encrypted lvm install ?
[11:40] <Rene_> sounds scary is there a mail server installed ?
[11:40] <Rene_> @dro
[11:41] <bekks> Rene_: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/nullmailer/
[11:43] <gjaekel> Rene_: Just for info: Output sink selection is quirked for every local user. I have to switch around it to get sound there.
[11:43] <Rene_> oke
[11:44] <gjaekel> Rene_: But now, if have to go to blast the ugly beasts away ;)
[11:45] <Rene_> ima gonna play a round of battle star galactica :D
[11:45] <Rene_> cya laters all o/
[11:52] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:01] <citroniks> j/ #qt
[12:03] <breV> so, apparently i did a dumb thing. via [ Ubuntu software centre > Installed ]  I removed a Bluetooth component, thinking "my laptop has no Bluetooth. Now I find Unity Tweak tool and About this computer no longer open. :/  Any ideas what i should reinstall? I dont remember which Bluetooth component it was in the Software centre
[12:04] <teward> breV: not sure, but maybe /var/log/apt/history.log will give some insight?
[12:05] <breV> aaah
[12:05] <teward> (I don't use software center so I'm just guessing)
[12:07] <InitX> Hi I got a very strange problem, my laptop got 500GB harddisk,  after I parted one partiition 285GB for install windows 7  then try to install ubuntu-desktop 14.0.4.2 LTS version from USB disk, the install guide didn't show any other partition in it, it only show HDD as a new disk
[12:08] <InitX> Did anyonne know how to fix this problem
[12:10] <EriC^^> InitX: did it used to have win8?
[12:11] <InitX> EriC^^, sorry don't get it
[12:11] <EriC^^> InitX: was it a windows 8 installation to begin with?
[12:12] <InitX> EriC^^, not windows8 just windows 7 with 64 bit, and windows was installed
[12:13] <EriC^^> InitX: ok, try sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> or netcat, if it doenst accept nc
[12:18] <InitX> how to open console?
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> ctrl-alt t
[12:23] <InitX> MonkeyDust, what is root password
[12:23] <InitX> I mean by default the root password for ubuntu
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> InitX  use sudo, with the password you used to login in ubuntu
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> InitX  there is no root passowrd, you should use sudo
[12:24] <InitX> I try to add a DNS to /etc/resolv.conf but sudo didn't get premision
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> InitX  sudo -e /etc/resolv.conf
[12:27] <maZtah> hi ya! question: if i'm doing this: tar -czf content.tar.gz languages uploads, within content.tar.gz there will a `content` directory, with `languages` and `uploads` in it. how can i get those folders right in the tar.gz (and so not within a content folder)
[12:27] <maZtah> if that makes sense.......
[12:28] <InitX> EriC^^, http://www.termbin.com/ucvk
[12:28] <InitX> MonkeyDust, http://www.termbin.com/ucvk
[12:29] <InitX> MBR and GPT
[12:29] <EriC^^> maZtah: you shouldn't have a content dir using that command
[12:30] <EriC^^> did you try it?
[12:30] <EriC^^> InitX: thanks
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> InitX  yes, what about it?
[12:30] <EriC^^> InitX: sudo fixparts /dev/sda
[12:30] <maZtah> EriC^^: ah, mac os is bullying me
[12:32] <InitX> EriC^^, I'm running $sudo fixparts /dev/sda it let me use MBR commands
[12:33] <EriC^^> InitX: is it saying anything about stray gpt?
[12:33] <InitX> partition didn't start on sectort 1
[12:34] <EriC^^> other than that? can you type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 ?
[12:35] <InitX> EriC^^, the output is here
[12:35] <InitX> http://www.termbin.com/eonf
[12:35] <EriC^^> ok press w
[12:40] <blb3383> please suggest a small http server with minimum to no dependencies that handles cgi scripts. lighthttp has some perl libs in its dependency list. python -m SimpleHTTPServer doesn't handle cgi
[12:40] <blb3383> I need it just for testing
[12:41] <karan> youtube videos are not running
[12:41] <tflgen2> anyone here use ltsp-pnp?
[12:41] <karan> it just shows an empty screen
[12:41] <karan> I did a new install and installed flash also
[12:41] <karan> i am using firefox and google chrome just keeps crashing
[12:43] <InitX> EriC^^, it's working :)
[12:43] <EriC^^> InitX: great :)
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> EriC^^  +1
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> !cookie | EriC^^
[12:43] <EriC^^> thanks MonkeyDust :)
[12:44] <Matsy> Does anyone here know why Landscape is taking up 40% of my ram?
[12:44] <Matsy> No processes are hanging, no failed threads or anything
[12:44] <karan> so what do i do so i can run videos on firefox ?
[12:44] <Matsy> What kind of videos, karan?
[12:44] <karan> and why is chrome crashing and not running
[12:44] <karan> youtube
[12:44] <tflgen2> karan: logs?
[12:44] <DarrenGao> hi,all
[12:44] <kazdax> tflgen2, how do i get the logs ?
[12:45] <tflgen2> try running them from a terminal rather than the regular launcher
[12:45] <Matsy> kazdax: Go to https://www.youtube.com/html5
[12:45] <Matsy> Ask for: 'Request HTML5 where possible'
[12:45] <Matsy> Or 'Request HTML5 player'
[12:46] <Matsy> You won't even need flash
[12:46] <kazdax> cool its working
[12:47] <TheZeus> hi
[12:48] <InitX> termbin.com 9999 this tool is very cool :)
[12:48] <TheZeus> can anybody help me to install anope on my pi?
[12:48] <somsip> TheZeus: the #raspberrypi channel
[12:48] <TheZeus> ok
[12:48] <TheZeus> thx
[12:49] <BluesKaj> Matsy, youtube already use HTML5 by default , try it without flash and you'll see, no need for requersting HTML 5
[12:49] <Matsy> Youtube doesn't use HTML5 by default
[12:49] <Matsy> When flash is available
[12:49] <Matsy> But not working
[12:49] <DarrenGao> you could select whether to use html5
[12:49] <Matsy> BluesKaj: If the solution works, that means he has a non-working flash
[12:50] <BluesKaj> ok , good luck with thaty ...it works without flash here
[12:50] <Matsy> BluesKaj: That's what I am saying. If you don't have flash, it will use HTML5. If it does have flash, but flash isn't working, it will try and use the flash player and (obviously) fail
[12:50] <Matsy> So, you can force the HTML5 player with this site.
[12:50] <kazdax> okay youtube works
[12:50] <kazdax> but facebook videos dont work
[12:51] <Matsy> Just remove flashplugin-installer
[12:51] <kazdax> how do i do that
[12:52] <DarrenGao> flash plugins does not work in chrome .
[12:52] <kazdax> i am not using chrome
[12:52] <Matsy> Chrome has its own flash version
[12:52] <Matsy> kazdax: apt-get remove flashplugin-installer
[12:53] <DarrenGao> firefox or iceweasel so called in debian, does need flash-plugin to support video
[12:54] <EriC^^> InitX: there's also pastebinit, sudo apt-get install pastebinit and then pastebinit <text> or command | pastebinit
[12:54] <kazdax> okay uninstalled
[12:54] <kazdax> but the video dosnt play
[12:54] <kazdax> Ill try and reinstall chrome because it wont open ..keeps crashing
[12:54] <tflgen2> kazdax: how did you install chrome?
[12:54] <InitX> EriC^^, ubuntu got a very useful support tools
[12:54] <kazdax> yes tflgen2
[12:55] <kazdax> but it keeps crashing before it opens
[12:55] <DarrenGao> download chrome deb file and use command "dpkg -i chrome.deb"
[12:55] <tflgen2> kazdax: *how*
[12:55] <kazdax> sofware center
[12:55] <tflgen2> go to google.com/chrome and get the .deb file then install
[12:55] <kazdax> no wait .. i downloaded it from the website
[12:56] <tflgen2> k
[12:56] <DarrenGao> chrome version 42
[12:56] <kazdax> should i remove the other version ?
[12:56] <EriC^^> InitX: pastebinit is pretty much in every distro, it's handy though
[12:56] <kazdax> or i just reinstall on it ?
, how does it work
[12:59] <skjones> test
[13:00] <kazdax> working
[13:00] <kazdax> hmm
[13:00] <kazdax> i tried opening chrome but it wont open
[13:01] <DarrenGao> google-chrome
[13:01] <DarrenGao> google-chrome --version
[13:01] <DarrenGao> check its version info
[13:01] <kazdax> how do i do that ?
[13:02] <Jakey2> does anyone use lynx?
[13:02] <DarrenGao> terminal
[13:02] <kazdax> 42
[13:02] <tflgen2> Jakey2: yep :)
[13:02] <DarrenGao> yeah, lynx . sometimes.
[13:02] <Guest33376> I have tried to upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04.  It seems to have partially been successful.  And there is the problem.  I did a "broken packages" with synaptic, but that didn't fix the problem.  It says that neither vivid nor utopic works with the tool ...
[13:02] <Jakey2> tflgen2,  what for?
[13:02] <kazdax> 42.0.2311.135
[13:02] <Jakey2> for the hello of it
[13:02] <Jakey2> *hell
[13:02] <Jakey2> ?
[13:02] <tflgen2> Jakey2: installing archlinux when in a terminal only
[13:03] <Jakey2> tflgen2, fair enough
[13:03] <Guest33376> How do I fix the partial upgrade to make it a complete upgrade?
[13:03] <tflgen2> arch > ubuntu :-D
[13:03] <Jakey2> :)
[13:03] <tflgen2> though ltsp support is easier on ubuntu
[13:03] <kazdax> so the version is the right one ?
[13:04] <kazdax> when i trype in google-chrome
[13:04] <Guest33376> Are any of those responses for me?
[13:04] <kazdax> says couldnt load libexif
[13:04] <kazdax> nope
[13:04] <BluesKaj> Guest33376, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:04] <Jakey2> tflgen2,  what do you like about arch
[13:04] <Guest33376> BluesKaj: I'll try.  Brb
[13:05] <tflgen2> Jakey2: pacman
[13:05] <Jakey2> tflgen2,  more than apt-get
[13:05] <tflgen2> yes
[13:05] <Johnny_Linux> no
[13:05] <sabbie> If the root user writes a file in a local users home directory, the local user will be able to overwrite the file. Even though the permissions for the file are 644 and the file is owned by root:root. Why is that?
[13:05] <Jakey2> tflgen2, fair enough
[13:06] <tflgen2> plus the "rolling release" model works for me better. To update an entire system to full current packages: sudo pacman -Syu
[13:06] <Jakey2> tflgen2, do you run in a personal capacity or for work
[13:06] <tflgen2> that's not possible in ubuntu as the releases are locked on major sw versions.
[13:06] <Guest33376> BluesKaj: It seems to be that simple.... thx
[13:06] <tflgen2> Jakey2: both
[13:06] <Jakey2> cool
[13:08] <tflgen2> Jakey2: Don't get me wrong, I started with ubuntu 6.10 and that's what got me into linux. But arch just works better for me, also has the best wiki imo
[13:09] <Jakey2> tflgen2, i like both, whatever does the job best
[13:09] <Jakey2> aslong as it open source :)
[13:10] <tflgen2> Jakey2: agreed
[13:10] <tflgen2> i'm slowly moving servers from windows to foss at work
[13:10] <Jakey2> cool
[13:10] <Jakey2> tflgen2,  are you making finacial savings by doing that
[13:10] <tflgen2> have my VM backend as a freenas box and multiple linux servers (ubuntu) running ubiquiti controllers
[13:11] <Jakey2> *financial
[13:11] <tflgen2> Jakey2: yes, but I also just like *nix better
[13:11] <Jakey2> tflgen2, best of both
[13:11] <Jakey2> tflgen2, i like the mindset of opensource
[13:12] <tflgen2> it's fun to re-use old hardware and have it be faster than new computers runnign windows
[13:12] <Jakey2> tflgen2, totally agree
[13:12] <tflgen2> esp when that hardware is a p4 with 386MB of ram
[13:12] <Jakey2> cool
[13:12] <tflgen2> admittedly, its functioning as a thin client, but they don't need to know that ;)
[13:13] <Jakey2> :)
[13:13] <Jakey2> tflgen2,  i like you have the choice
[13:13] <Jakey2> if you want to tinker you can
[13:14] <tflgen2> yep. I just have to support the AD and do whatever I want with the rest of my time
[13:14] <Jakey2> tflgen2, thats cool
[13:14] <Jakey2> im tring to get a young family member into linux
[13:15] <tflgen2> #churchworklife
[13:15] <Jakey2> he's 10 years old
[13:15] <Jakey2> lol
[13:15] <tflgen2> Jakey2: raspberry pi?
[13:15] <Jakey2> i was thinking raspberry pi
[13:15] <tflgen2> the rpi2's are really sweet, just got one and have it running screenly ose for digital signage
[13:15] <Jakey2> on ebay for the same price you can get a 4gb ram
[13:16] <Jakey2> old dell computer
[13:16] <Jakey2> rp 2 is good but just 1gb ram
[13:16] <tflgen2> i'd prob still go with the pi
[13:16] <tflgen2> more IO, more stuff you can build with it
[13:16] <Jakey2> true
[13:16] <tflgen2> less of a "computer"
[13:16] <tflgen2> but still runs *nix
[13:16] <Jakey2> true
[13:16] <Jakey2> yes it certainly a good idea
[13:16] <tflgen2> after all, that's why they exist, to educate
[13:17] <Jakey2> indeed
[13:17] <tflgen2> lol, after all this google-chrome talk, i forgot that my install was out of date as it's an unofficial pkg. was running 39 :/ fixed now :)
[13:18] <Jakey2> :)
[13:18] <Jakey2> tflgen2, i started using midori
[13:18] <Jakey2> its less processor intensive i find
[13:18] <Jakey2> some pages dont render well
[13:18] <Jakey2> but on the whole pretty good
[13:19] <tflgen2> yeah, i'm a google sellout though. chromecast, android, inbox, gdocs, etc. just makes more sense. they alreayd have all my info ;)
[13:19] <tflgen2> though chrome will eat ram
[13:19] <Jakey2> tflgen2, ye it is really nice with those functions
[13:20] <Jakey2> i have it to
[13:20]  * tflgen2 counts tabs...1, 2, 3, ... 35, 36
[13:20]  * tflgen2 forgot there was a second window... 45, 46 ...
[13:20] <Jakey2> tflgen2, did you have to jump through hoops to use linux at work
[13:20] <tflgen2> from a policy perspective or technical?
[13:20] <Jakey2> policy
[13:21] <tflgen2> no, as I am the IT director :)
[13:21] <Jakey2> lol
[13:21] <Jakey2> that makes it easier
[13:21] <tflgen2> yep
[13:22] <Jakey2> tflgen2, your company lucky to have a forward thinking it director
[13:22] <tflgen2> though i imagine if higher ups didn't know how to manage linux, i wouldn't expect them to let anyone below them
[13:22] <tflgen2> thx :)
[13:22] <tflgen2> already saved them over 20k
[13:22] <Jakey2> that helps
[13:22] <Jakey2> :)
[13:23] <tflgen2> though i did scare the crap out of them with a quote for a fully specced R920 server
[13:23] <Jakey2> i was thinking in schools they shgould just use linux
[13:23] <Jakey2> how much money must be spent on licences
[13:23] <tflgen2> schools/nonprofits get decent license costs
[13:23] <Jakey2> tflgen2, fair enough
[13:23] <tflgen2> win server datacenter 2012r2 is about $600
[13:24] <tflgen2> vs $4500
[13:24] <compdoc> I think datacenter costs more than that
[13:24] <Jakey2> tflgen2, ye thats a reduction
[13:25] <tflgen2> yep, also E3 365 for $5/user/mo
[13:25] <saurabhdare> Hey, I get mei_me error on bootup using 14.04.2. This bug appeared only when I upgraded to latest kernel from official updates. (3.13.0_51)
[13:25] <Jakey2> tflgen2, still if you have a 1000 kids
[13:25] <Jakey2> or 1500
[13:25] <Jakey2> can add up compared to libre office
[13:25] <tflgen2> i was going to roll my own email setup, but they were so integrated with exchange/outlook that i just left it. Previous guy was MS everything
[13:26] <tflgen2> Jakey2: agreed big time
[13:26] <Jakey2> tflgen2, plus when those kids go into the work environment
[13:26] <tflgen2> If i were setting up a school from scratch, it would be a ltsp cluster with a few beefy machines, and the rest donated hardware
[13:26] <Jakey2> already hooked on windows
[13:27] <tflgen2> yep
[13:27] <Jakey2> tflgen2, that's a good idea
[13:27] <Jakey2> tflgen2, run them as virtual machines
[13:28] <Jakey2> ?
[13:28] <tflgen2> Jakey2: run what as vms?
[13:28] <saurabhdare> any clues regarding my problem. I tried blacklisting mei. However, that didn't help
[13:28] <saurabhdare> I am afraid that it might break my wifi.
[13:28] <Jakey2> the students has his own virtual machine on the server
[13:28] <tflgen2> i'd just use LTSP as is. VDI is overrated imo
[13:29] <Jakey2> fair enough
[13:29] <teward> saurabhdare: the actual error would help, however, blacklisting mei_me shouldn't hurt your wifi
[13:29] <tflgen2> they'd have their own accounts, but it would be session based rather than dedicated VMs for each student. Only one software setup to maintain :)
[13:29] <Jakey2> tflgen2, true
[13:30] <saurabhdare> http://askubuntu.com/questions/616670/error-message-on-booting-up-ubuntu-14-04-
[13:30] <tflgen2> want to update 200 computers? sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade on server. done.
[13:30] <saurabhdare> This doesn't work for me
[13:30] <Jakey2> tflgen2, very true
[13:30] <saurabhdare> teward, great lemme try
[13:30] <tflgen2> and then use epoptes to manage all the thin clients, boom reboot
[13:30] <teward> saurabhdare: ahh, so you have that error
[13:30] <teward> saurabhdare: if it does break your wifi then you just remove it from the blacklists and restart
[13:31] <saurabhdare> teward, hmm
[13:31] <teward> saurabhdare: but the issue would be whether mei is needed on your system.
[13:31] <saurabhdare> teward, it is intel;  so I don't mess around it. My wifi is intel.
[13:31] <Jakey2> tflgen2, nice chatting to you
[13:31] <teward> saurabhdare: according to https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/misc-devices/mei/mei.txt i don't think it'll necessarily affect your wifi, but...
[13:32] <teward> saurabhdare: my wifi is Intel, so is my graphics card, but they're different components, as would MEI be.
[13:32] <tflgen2> Jakey2: same to you :)
[13:33] <saurabhdare> teward, should I file a bug report?
[13:33] <saurabhdare> teward, did I do something wrong while upgrading?
[13:34] <teward> saurabhdare: i'm not qualified to answer either question.  I'm not sure it's really a bug, though.
[13:34] <saurabhdare> teward, ok
[13:34] <teward> saurabhdare: but I don't think that you really need to worry about those errors though...
[13:34] <saurabhdare> teward, hmm okay
[13:34] <teward> saurabhdare: just because it shows in dmesg doesn't mean it's going to explode your system :P
[13:34] <saurabhdare> teward, haha. You put that well
[13:35] <teward> saurabhdare: also, FYI, my system here is an Intel i7 processor, an Intel/AMD hybrid card, an Intel wifi card, and an Intel bluetooth card.  My system doesn't have mei on it so i blacklisted the driver, but that's a specific case
[13:35] <teward> ... he left
[13:38] <saurabhdare> all, blacklisting mei_me did the trick. Thanks :-)
[13:38] <saurabhdare> computers are complicated
[13:39] <bekks> saurabhdare: your computer told you that the module name is mei_me - so blacklisting mei wont help, obviously :)
[13:40] <Stifler> lol
[13:40] <saurabhdare> bekks, yeah
[13:40] <bekks> saurabhdare: I dont think thats rocket science ;)
[13:40] <saurabhdare> bekks, true
[13:49] <Dro___> i have a problem with w_scan, i used it 3 times for the same sat: first time i got 900 channels, 2d time : 624 channels, 3d time 599 time !!
[13:49] <Dro___> anyone know how to make it search all channels ?
[13:50] <Theor> Hi. I'm using badram to correct a deffective bit on a ram stick. The option is properly added in /etc/default/grub, and the badram line appears in the resulting /etc/grub/grub.cfg file. However, the line is not set in the submenu entries, which means I'm still getting panics. I have to manually add the line in Grub so it registers it. Should I fill a bug report?
[14:11] <martysiamint> hello, I have forgotten my root password on my Ubuntu 14.04 Triumfalna Turkawka
[14:11] <martysiamint> what should I do now?
[14:11] <petrvs> martysiamint: got a live OS?
[14:12] <martysia> petrvs you mean like a bootable usb with system on it?
[14:12] <petrvs> martysia: yeah
[14:12] <martysia> nopes, no longer do
[14:13] <fate_> which library is used for drawing graphs in gnome-system-monitor for system usage?
[14:13] <martysia> I do can install the apps from the software centrer though
[14:13] <martysia> using a password
[14:13] <petrvs> martysia: you can try 'the other way' here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[14:13] <petrvs> martysia: that's probably the only password you need
[14:13] <martysia> but it doesn't work in the command line
[14:14] <petrvs> doesn't work how?
[14:14] <martysia> when I wish to use the sudo or su
[14:14] <petrvs> martysia: you can try 'the other way' here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[14:14] <petrvs> or any of the ways there, really
[14:14] <petrvs> if those don't work you'll need a live OS
[14:16] <martysia> thans petrvs
[14:17] <virus> test
[14:17] <jeffreylevesque> can i enable USB for ubuntu virtualbox via command line, instead of checking the little box in the VB console window - http://askubuntu.com/questions/25596/how-to-set-up-usb-for-virtualbox
[14:17] <petrvs> jeffreylevesque: most likely, check with VBoxManage's --help/etc.
[14:17] <petrvs> or ask #vbox
[14:34] <pbx> small thing i miss from os x: when i click in  a form field and start typing, i want the mouse pointer to disappear (instead of obscuring what i am typing). possible?
[14:35] <petrvs> obscuring?
[14:35] <petrvs> oh the mouse pointer
[14:35] <petrvs> pbx: I use unclutter
[14:35] <petrvs> I use unclutter -noevents -root
[14:36] <petrvs> since they broke something and -noevents puts the old way back :p
[14:36] <pbx> interesting, thanks petrvs
[14:36] <segaboy> petrvs, this will only work in X, right?
[14:36] <petrvs> yup
[14:36] <petrvs> unlikely to be an issue outside of X
[14:40] <jerry_langhun> hi
[14:40] <jerry_langhun> i can't connect server via ssh until i ping the pc
[14:40] <jerry_langhun> i can't connect server via ssh until i ping the server
[14:41] <petrvs> jerry_langhun: what's the server?
[14:41] <petrvs> jerry_langhun: wireless network?
[14:41] <jerry_langhun> what's wrong
[14:41] <jerry_langhun> the server is my anther pc
[14:41] <somsip> !details | jerry_langhun (we need a bit more info here...)
[14:41] <kunji> Hey everyone, I have something that I need to run before X starts, but after /dev is populated (at least I think when I'm running it is the issue here).... where should that go?
[14:42] <petrvs> jerry_langhun: with a wired connection?
[14:42] <petrvs> kunji: what thing
[14:42] <AlexPortable> What is good software to apply effects to images?
[14:42] <jerry_langhun> my mother tonge is not english
[14:42] <jerry_langhun> i have a pc with centos
[14:43] <kunji> petrvs: I'm trying to create a symlink form /dev/dri to /dev/ati because with the proprietary driver on my system it is creating the card0 and card1 in /dev/ati/card0 and card1 instead of in /dev/dri.
[14:43] <jerry_langhun> i have anther pc with ubuntu
[14:43] <petrvs> jerry_langhun: does it use an ethernet _cable_?
[14:43] <petrvs> AlexPortable: what sort of effects
[14:43] <AlexPortable> Like transforming an image into black&white to make a coloring of it
[14:43] <kunji> *from
[14:43] <jerry_langhun> i want conect the centos with my ubuntu
[14:43] <petrvs> kunji: use a udev rule for that
[14:43] <matthewr11> Hello
[14:43] <petrvs> AlexPortable: a coloring?
[14:44] <petrvs> matthewr11: hi
[14:44] <kunji> petrvs: That would be ideal, can you point me to a good resource for that, I'm doing this because I don't know how to do that ^_^
[14:44] <jerry_langhun> i can't ssh the centos until ping centos
[14:44] <somsip> !info gimp | AlexPortable
[14:44] <matthewr11> I’m trying to migrate a CentOS server to Ubuntu.  I’m all done except for some VPN like configuration.  I’m trying to figure out how the old server is connected to a VPN when it’s pptp or openvpn is not installed.  Any ideas?
[14:44] <jerry_langhun> what' wrong is it
[14:45] <somsip> jerry_langhun: ssh -vvvv might give you more information.
[14:45] <petrvs> jerry_langhun: #ubuntu-cn
[14:48] <jerry_langhun> OpenSSH_6.6.1, OpenSSL 1.0.1f 6 Jan 2014
[14:48] <jerry_langhun> debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[14:48] <jerry_langhun> debug1: /etc/ssh/ssh_config line 19: Applying options for *
[14:48] <jerry_langhun> debug1: Connecting to 192.168.1.17 [192.168.1.17] port 22.
[14:48] <somsip> !paste | jerry_langhun
[14:48] <jerry_langhun> ok
[14:49] <jerry_langhun> wait along
[14:50] <jerry_langhun> now  notice connection timed out
[14:50] <Rene_> !how_to_disable_setting_the_clock_as_a_normal_user
[14:51] <ioria> jerry_langhun,  both server and client are wired connected ?
[14:51] <k1l_> Rene_: dont run with the mob about a security issue that is non.
[14:51] <matthewr11> any ideas guys
[14:51] <matthewr11> ?
[14:51] <jerry_langhun> wifi
[14:52] <jerry_langhun> centos is wired
[14:53] <ioria> jerry_langhun,  it could be then a router problem ... check 'wireless isolation' in your router configuration
[14:53] <ioio> hello
[14:53] <ioio> can smb help me here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132&page=11
[14:53] <ioio> ?
[14:54] <ioria> jerry_langhun,  and apart from ssh, try  simply pinging your Centos machine
[14:54] <jerry_langhun> u mean is wireless option has error
[14:54] <ioria> jerry_langhun,  ping your centos and see if it works
[14:55] <daftykins> ioio: what is your graphics hardware?
[14:55] <jerry_langhun> i ping it  ,the ssh  is working
[14:55] <AlexPortable> petrvs: yes
[14:55] <AlexPortable> petrvs: what children do with a black&white contoured imahe
[14:56] <Aremis117> Hallo
[14:56] <jerry_langhun> but i reboot centos ,the problem is re
[14:57] <ioio> daftykins, i have and nvidia 870
 i'm just asking how i can disable it, if getting root acces to ur machine is not an issue fine, im just trying to find for a solution, so far i have found non
[14:57] <daftykins> ioio: is that in a laptp?
[14:57] <daftykins> *laptop
[14:57] <ioio> yes
[14:57] <ioio> xmg
[14:57] <ioria> jerry_langhun,  do you set static ips or dhcp (automatic) ?
[14:57] <petrvs> AlexPortable: ah
[14:57] <Aremis117> I have a bit of a problem.  I have been running AMD for so long that coming to nividia (I got the card for free) is scaring the shit out of me.  The card I have is a GT330 and out of the 600 (kidding) drivers I'm not quite sure which one to use
[14:57] <Rene_> sorry for late reaction im making something to eat
[14:57] <k1l_> Rene_: see comment #9 at the bugreport. that explains what is wrong with pushing that "issue"
[14:57] <jerry_langhun> static
[14:57] <jerry_langhun> ip
[14:57] <daftykins> ioio: most likely you have a hybrid graphics machine then, which ubuntu version?
[14:57] <petrvs> AlexPortable: you can do a lot with imagemagick's 'convert' or 'mogrify': mogrify -type grayscale *.jpg
[14:58] <Rene_> link ?
[14:58] <AlexPortable> petrvs: preferably with an easy gui
[14:58] <AlexPortable> So I can teach people how to use it
[14:58] <ioio> daftykins 14.04 ubuntu
[14:58] <Rene_> im not pushing anything, just trying to ask if there is a solution, if there is non so be it
[14:58] <petrvs> AlexPortable: or to make copies during: for i in *.jpg; do convert "$i" -type grayscale "${i%.jpg}.gray.jpg"; done
[14:58] <petrvs> AlexPortable: k, gimp'll do then
[14:59] <k1l_> Rene_: there is non, since letting user set the time without needing sudo is a feature. not a bug
[14:59] <daftykins> ioio: can you get to a TTY by pressing ctrl+alt+F1 and login there after boot?
[14:59] <Rene_> in the end im trying to use my machine not lock it down till i cant use it, if it cant be fixed then swa, if it can i like to do something
[14:59] <zhangsen> ?
[14:59] <dreamon> I want to change theme of gnome-session-fallback, but cant find a tool to do so. I installed kde and changed colors, after that my gnome-session-fallback change looking.
[14:59] <ioio> daftykins, what is tty?
[14:59] <daftykins> ioio: command line login
[15:00] <k1l_> Rene_: if someone has physical access to your machine that is not screenlocked. you are in trouble no matter what permissions are needed to set the clock
[15:00] <AlexPortable> petrvs: greyscale will also remove the inside of the image?
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> dreamon  instead of the theme, you changed the desktop environment
[15:00] <AlexPortable> Not just black/white
[15:00] <Rene_> but this could be abused by a virus
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> a virus?
[15:00] <Rene_> yes
[15:00] <daftykins> *malware
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> can't wait to encounter the first linux virus
[15:01] <k1l_> Rene_: there is a lot more that could be abused. this is just making drama for nothing.
[15:01] <ioio> daftykins, i will try it right now, i just need to try the ctrl+alt+F1 nad i get the tty?
[15:01] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: "please enter sudo password to run" :D
[15:01] <ioio> that is, when i get to the login screen*
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> daftykins  don't tempt me :)
[15:02] <Rene_> oke im just discovering then , that there is no concern about security once there is a logon to the pc ?.?
[15:02] <Rene_> i mean my windows checks with online armour every file if its whitelisted
[15:02] <k1l_> Rene_: really: read the comment #9 on the bug report.
[15:02] <k1l_> Rene_: this is ridiculous.
[15:02] <Rene_> what bug report i asked u to link it so i can read it too thanks
[15:02] <Rene_> 2x time i asked
[15:02] <dreamon> MonkeyDust, why are different desktop enviroment changiing the look of the other?
[15:03] <kokut> Hello, anyone uses cairo-dock? The show desktop button isn't working :\
[15:03] <kunji> AlexPortable: GIMP + G'Mic, Imagemagick also has a thing on their website where you can upload an image and run imagemagick stuff on it, that may count as a GUI for your use case?
[15:03] <k1l_> Rene_: where did you get the idea from that this could be an issue? right, you read some newspage or /r/linux that want to make a "ubuntu is not secure" drama.
[15:03] <Rene_> on the register.co.uk
[15:03] <Rene_> and i startpaged up some bug reports
[15:04] <wildchild> which are the most popular programming channels here? anybody?
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> wildchild: ##programming
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> dreamon  because that's the purpose of a DE, they look diiferent and function differntly
[15:04] <Rene_> but nobody clearly states why this is not an issue, and i finmd the idea that people say its not anm isue because as soon as they r logged in they can own u in 100 ways sounds scray to me
[15:04] <daftykins> wildchild: this is an ubuntu support channel, it is not a personal directory for the whole of freenode. go ask #freenode and message the bot 'alis' for help finding channels.
[15:04] <k1l_> nice "quality journalisms" you got there. not even linking the source m(
[15:05] <wildchild> daftykins: thanks
[15:05] <Rene_> scary*
[15:05] <k1l_> Rene_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-desktop-privileges/+bug/1219337  see comment #9
[15:05] <dreamon> MonkeyDust, so its not possible to use different DE without changing the look of the other. thats strange..
[15:05] <Rene_> i find i peculuar that it's not an issue because they can own me in 100 other ways, im starting to get slowly scared now
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> dreamon  but a theme changes the look of the DE
[15:05] <nbusrone> May I know what is the different at software nvidia driver update version ? legacy vs binary ?
[15:05] <Rene_> thanks
[15:06] <k1l_> Rene_: and think of that even linus torwalds said it was pure nonsense that you need root permissions to set the clock etc. so stop making a drama here now!
[15:06] <acz32> dreamon: are you speaking english? what do you mean by change the look of the other?
[15:06] <Rene_> wow oke , i didnt know asking for a solution to something was making drama
[15:06] <k1l_> Rene_: if you install faulty software (aka virus) it will not make you safe to need root permissions to set the clock.
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> dreamon  a DE is different layout, but a theme is the look of the layout you ar using
[15:07] <Rene_> i like to plug every hole i encounter, is this wrong ?
[15:07] <daftykins> Rene_: let me get this straight, your entire conversation here is about thinking it's a security issue that someone doesn't need a password to change the time on your computer?
[15:08] <acz32> Rene_: no, but debian is not vulnerable to that so different distros have different philosophy. some are more secure by default than others
[15:08] <k1l_> Rene_: i already told you that this is not a security issue. its a feature that you can set the clock without root permission.
[15:08] <dreamon> acz32, its not my main language .. sorry. I cant adjust window colors in gnome-session-fallback. gnome-tool-tweak does not that job.
[15:08] <Rene_> and im just asking if its possible to switch off the feature
[15:09] <k1l_> Rene_: so calling it a security issue on your side, even i already answered and explained it, is just plain rude
[15:09] <Rene_> im not bullying anybody :D
[15:09] <acz32> it's a feature to ubuntu. try telling that to openbsd or debian and they will call it a bug
[15:09] <Rene_> oke some feature turn off request are not permitted in here, i was unaware im sorry
[15:09] <zykotick9> acz32: +1
[15:10] <daftykins> Rene_: it's more the terrible way that you have approached this discussion that isn't welcome
[15:10] <AlexPortable> kunji: preferably offline
[15:10] <AlexPortable> Don't always have internet
[15:11] <k1l_> Rene_: you are not the only one these days who thinks he  is a real clever one and tries to make a drama in here. so dont blame us if you came in thinking you can show the ubuntu users how clever you are.
[15:11] <nbusrone> May I know what is the different at software nvidia driver update legacy vs binary ? and version ?
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> Rene_  paranoid != clever
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> nbusrone: use the driver that works best for your system
[15:13] <petrvs> AlexPortable: sounds like you want to reduce to two colors
[15:13] <kunji> AlexPortable: GIMP should work nicely then
[15:13] <Rene_> k1l, im asking very politely a question, and aghain and again u acuse me of making drama, sad realy sad
[15:14] <Rene_> i still dont have an awnser for the question, but i guess im not allowed to ask it in here
[15:14] <Rene_> im not claiming oto be an computer expert
[15:14] <k1l_> Rene_: 1. see how you entered the room. 2. you still blame us 3. i answered that questions 4. i linked the bug where you can contribute if you think that is a bug
[15:14] <lotuspsychje> !ot | Rene_
[15:14] <Rene_> im just a gamer using ubuntu, trying to lock down potential security holes
[15:15] <ikonia> Rene_: you can set whatever permissions you want on your machine
[15:15] <aktx> http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Mysterious-Lights-Spotted-Above-San-Diego-301729021.html
[15:15] <kunji> Rene_: Isn't there an answer in the link you posted, they show setting it so that you always need to supply a password when using sudo (disabling the grace period).
[15:15] <ikonia> Rene_: ubuntu is meant to be customized to the users needs, so set whatever config you feel best
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> aktx: no spam links here please
[15:15] <aktx> lotuspsychje, sorry
[15:16] <petrvs> AlexPortable: maybe Image > Mode > Indexed... > Use black and white... / Color dithering: Floyd-Steinberg (reduced color bleeding)
[15:16] <kunji> Rene_: This is not really a security hole though..... I mean, there's a reason that they say all bets are off once someone has physical access to a machine.
[15:18] <nbusrone> lotuspsychje : how do I know which is best for system ? there are version 304.125, 331.113 , 340.76 , 349.16 and both legacy and binary
[15:18] <daftykins> nbusrone: what is your card?
[15:18] <damascene> Hi, How to debug keyboard layout switching issues? GNOME Shell 3.12.2 Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
[15:19] <k1l_> damascene: there is a shortcut for switchting, something about alt+shift or such, maybe you press that accidently
[15:20] <damascene> I know the shortcut, the problem is that it sometimes get broken. it happened after I installed gnome shell
[15:21] <damascene> it keep working until I run libreoffice or the screen got locked. but that does not happen always. I failed to detect the real issue
[15:25] <peepsalot> i just upgraded from 14.10 to 15.04 and now abiword inexplicably opens to a blank document whenever ubuntu starts
[15:26] <peepsalot> how can I tell what is causing it to stat
[15:26] <peepsalot> start
[15:26] <fermion> hello, can smb help me with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132&page=11&s=9617acf9d6894c8a8ef1d303c008a3bf   i am able at the login to press the ctrl+alt+f1 and get to the tty1
[15:27] <nbusrone> daftykins : nvidia gtx550
[15:28] <daftykins> nbusrone: 349 would likely be fine
[15:28] <Happy_the_Exceed> How can I make Ubuntu Unity hyper sensitive as it used to be (the first version of ubuntu with unity DE installed.) -- In 14.10, with the current sensitivity settings (and changing it to make it more sensitive.) The left-side tray doesn't pop up with high sensitivity as it used to.
[15:28] <Happy_the_Exceed> slide-out*
[15:29] <fermion> daftykins, i can get in the tty
[15:29] <daftykins> fermion: is this machine connected to the internet?
[15:29] <nbusrone> daftykins : ok , legacy or binary ?
[15:29] <daftykins> nbusrone: i don't really expect you to be seeing both. can you share a screenshot via imgur.com ?
[15:30] <fermion> daftykins, yes
[15:31] <daftykins> fermion: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lspci | pastebinit"
[15:31] <_123design_> I am trying to install an 14.04 to an old laptop, the screen has dimmed and now asks for a password
[15:32] <lotuspsychje> _123design_: type your password to unlock..
[15:32] <_123design_> anyone knows the default password for the installer user ubunut?
[15:32] <daftykins> there is no password.
[15:32] <_123design_> I wrote user ubuntu on the screen where asks for user and pass
[15:32] <_123design_> tryed empty
[15:32] <_123design_> invalid password
[15:33] <_123design_> oh, crap
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> _123design_: if you installed ubuntu, it must have asked you to set a password right?
[15:33] <jerry_langhun> hi  why ssh sucessful until i ping the pc
[15:33] <_123design_> I had NOT installed it
[15:33] <_123design_> still in the live cd mode
[15:33] <_123design_> now unlocked
[15:33] <s_spiff> hey guys... does anyone here have issues with the gui when resume from a suspended state? My laptop goes into suspennd mode when I close the lid. When I open the laptop, most of the gui is blacked out. I log in (basically just type my pasword and hit enter since I can't see anything on the screen) and the system resumes messed up. Can't see the panel, open windows, etc.
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> _123design_: then its like daftykins says, no pass
[15:34] <_123design_> yes
[15:34] <_123design_> it is
[15:34] <Mr-Potter> Hi is it really worth migrating from 14.10 to 15.04?
[15:34] <_123design_> but there has happened an internal error
[15:34] <petrvs> Mr-Potter: had you planned on never upgrading? Bad plan
[15:34]  * Mr-Potter wishes he'd just plumped for 14.04 :P
[15:34] <k1l_> Mr-Potter: in 3 months ends the support for 14.10 so you got to upgrade in that timeframe
[15:34] <_123design_> now I see the desktop, but my work has gone in the toilet
[15:34] <Mr-Potter> petrvs: No I never planned on that, I planned on upgrading when neccessary if not more often
[15:34] <compdoc> 14.04 for me for a couple years, at least
[15:34] <Mr-Potter> k1l_: Yeah that's true thank you
[15:35] <Mr-Potter> compdoc: How good
[15:35] <Mr-Potter> TBH I think I'll just side step to Windows 8
[15:35] <compdoc> windows 10
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> please dont discuss windows here
[15:35] <kunji> Mr-Potter: You should use either the latest release or the LTS one unless you have a good reason not to.  Same goes for Windows though, with good reasons becoming fewer and fewer.
[15:35] <fermion> daftykins, i dont know why but in the tty i get the "login incorrect" warning    https://www.dropbox.com/s/xmehx3i8xswx895/20150501_161402.JPG?dl=0&oref=e&n=50550987
[15:35] <Mr-Potter> Maybe eventually install the latest LTS version on the side
[15:35] <Mr-Potter> kunji: OK thanks got it
[15:36] <Mr-Potter> Why cant we discuss windows
[15:36] <petrvs> not #windows
[15:36] <Mr-Potter> alright
[15:36] <k1l_> Mr-Potter: ##windows is the windows channel. we focus on ubuntu support in here.
[15:36] <kunji> Mr-Potter: because it's off topic, I guess it would be fair game in the corresponding off topic channel.
[15:36] <daftykins> fermion: that must be the wrong username
[15:36] <Mr-Potter> kunji: OK thanks understood
[15:37] <fermion> i am using the username that i have at the login screen
[15:37] <fermion> and i get the same result
[15:45] <gianpaolo> o a
[15:45] <gianpaolo> scusate sono su ubuntu studio e vorrei metterci linux mint
[15:45] <gianpaolo> come faccio?
[15:45] <ioria> english here, please
[15:45] <daftykins> fermion: then it is wrong
[15:46] <daftykins> or your password is wrong
[15:46] <kunji> Actually, question: does the open source radeon driver support switching active graphics cards yet?  What ATI calls Enduro.
[15:46] <gianpaolo> i'm on ubuntu studio and i want to put linux mint
[15:46] <fermion> daftykins perhaps because i login with nomodeset thare is some info list?
[15:46] <ioria> gianpaolo, you can use virtualbox, or dual boot
[15:47] <gianpaolo> i'm on a partitioned hard disk already
[15:47] <segaboy> gianpaolo, why don't you just install cinnamon as your desktop environment for Ubuntu Studio?
[15:47] <fermion> at the login screen i have the jojo username, and i remember the password. this problem in my system is recent
[15:47] <daftykins> fermion: booting with nomodeset won't change your username
[15:47] <gianpaolo> i'd like to cancel ubuntu studio here and put linux mint instead
[15:47] <daftykins> fermion: oh so this worked fine before?
[15:47] <ioria> gianpaolo, do you wanna just a DE or a system ?
[15:48] <k1l_> gianpaolo: then boot a linux mint usb and install it. but you will need to ask linux mint support for help oin that
[15:48] <k1l_> !mint | gianpaolo
[15:48] <fermion> daftykins, and my ubuntu has worked for some time, but i updated the drivers and i think that caused the problem
[15:48] <segaboy> gianpolo, the installer for Mint will allow you to delete the partitions you already have.
[15:48] <daftykins> fermion: ah, nvidia driver update?
[15:48] <fermion> yah
[15:48] <ausjke> speng the whole morning fighting with sshd
[15:48] <gianpaolo> no i just want to know how i can format the partition with ubuntu studio
[15:49] <uskerine> hi, I would like to specify a custom X11 resource (Mwm*resizeBorderWidth: 3)
[15:49] <ausjke> tried increase MaxAuthTries in sshd_config, restart it, then try login with wrong passwords, it always quit after 3 tries?
[15:49] <k1l_> gianpaolo: you cant format the partition while you use the partition.
[15:49] <uskerine> in which file should that be included?
[15:49] <k1l_> gianpaolo: boot a linux mint usb/dvd and use their installer
[15:49] <ioria> gianpaolo, if you want to delete ubuntu, it'll be task of the new insatller
[15:49] <gianpaolo> okay 'll try
[15:49] <ioria> *installer
[15:49] <gianpaolo> thanks guys
[15:49] <kunji> gianpaolo: Umm, gparted, but you can't format the partition that gparted is running on, for I think obvious reasons.
[15:50] <gianpaolo> i'll try from windows
[15:50] <kunji> gianpaolo: you can do it during the Mint install, or using the liveCD of Mint or Ubuntu-Studio.
[15:51] <gianpaolo> ok
[15:51] <skinux> I noticed that there are a lot of 'backup' directories in various places, altogether which are taking up several Gigs of disk space. Is there an easy way to free up that space or do I have to manually empty all of the various directories?
[15:51] <kunji> skinux:eh?  Where did those come from?
[15:52] <skinux> I don't know. I did a disk-wide search for 'backup' and found a bunch of directories.
[15:52] <Voyage> How to find a file (in a directory and all sub directories) that might have a "specific string"?
[15:52] <mcphail> Voyage: grep, ack or ag
[15:52] <skinux> Voyage: read up on the 'find' command.
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> githogori: use gparted
[15:54] <fermion> daftykins, is the ubuntu login name the same that i must enter in the tty1?
[15:54] <daftykins> fermion: your account username, yes
[15:55] <petrvs> Voyage: grep -r would be the brute force way
[15:55] <fermion> but is the same?
[15:55] <kunji> skinux: Hmm, normally I wouldn't expect them to take much diskspace on a normal linux install unless there is some software running to make them.  Did you set up the backups software in the settings?
[15:55] <petrvs> Voyage: depending on what's in the dirs, find'ing all the text files first might be worthwhile
[15:55] <daftykins> fermion: don't ask me :)
[15:55] <skinux> kunji: I don't remember doing so, but I'll check.
[15:55] <fermion> daftykins, why? i am not sure about that..
[15:56] <skinux> I'm not finding any settings about backups.
[15:56] <daftykins> fermion: i don't really have any suggestions if you say your username does not work
[15:57] <fermion> daftykins, but is the same as that one from the ubuntu login screen?
[15:57] <kunji> skinux: All Settings -> Backups doesn't exist on your machine, or it's not set to make any backups?
[15:57] <daftykins> fermion: for the third time, yes :)
[15:59] <kunji> skinux: Should actually be accessible right from the main menu under the name Backups
[15:59] <skinux> I'm using Unity, only general settings thing I can find is for KDE.
[16:00] <fermion> daftykins, at the login screen when i select the guest and i click enter then i also get a balck screen and i get back to the login
[16:00] <arulmagi> hi everyone! can i install other desktop environments in kubuntu?
[16:00] <daftykins> fermion: yeah i know
[16:00] <petrvs> arulmagi: yup
[16:00] <skinux> Found it. No, automatic backups are NOT enabled.
[16:00] <kunji> skinux: What if you want to change your background?  Isn't it right click on the background -> Change Desktop Background?
[16:00] <daftykins> !recovery | fermion use this and login as root, remount the hard disk as read-write then try "sudo apt-get purge nvidia* " then reboot
[16:01] <Voyage> petrvs,  thanks
[16:01] <kunji> skinux: And then that takes you to All Settings -> Appearance, so you could then click on where it says All Settings.
[16:01] <arulmagi> in that case,how to install cinammon flavor in kubuntu?
[16:01] <skinux> I already found 'Backups' settings. Automatic backups are NOT enabled.
[16:02] <mustmodify> I know this is mildly OT and I can do the googling on my own, need a push. What is the name for the characters that cause logs or consoles to show colors?
[16:02] <kunji> skinux: Ah, ok, that's what I was asking.  Are these backup files you're finding scattered around the filesystem?
[16:02] <mustmodify> I want to filter those out from files before I load them in vim.
[16:03] <skinux> Appears so, yes. I did the search again so I can provide some information on locations.
[16:04] <skinux> Here's one: /sys/firmware/efi/vars/SecureStateBackup-d710a718-c02a-4658-a0ce-69820a7e8d24
[16:04] <tgm4883> mustmodify: you sure you don't have some vim addon for syntax highlighting
[16:05] <nell> my display messed up after installing nvidia drivers for my thinkpad [14.04]
[16:05] <nell> before: http://a.pomf.se/hzzvdy.png   after: http://a.pomf.se/qbknax.png
[16:05] <skinux> And /sys/firmware/efi/vars/BackupPlatformLang-59d1c24f-50f1-401a-b101-f33e0daed443 although those directories are not even half of a MB.
[16:05] <nell> all the tabs and window decorations are big
[16:06] <ioria> mustmodify, for ano there is a .nanorc, don't rememer for vim
[16:06] <ioria> nano
[16:07] <kunji> skinux: Hmm, I don't even have a /sys/firmware/efi, I just have acpi and memmap in there.  If none of them are popping out as being significantly big, then they're probably being created by local tools that expect them.  (like how many tools will make a backup of xorg.conf before messing with it).  I don't think there will be a global way to manage them or that you would recover much space.
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> nell: what is the output of:   lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[16:08] <XenophonF> is it possible to setup an encrypted swap with an ephemeral key?
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> nell: use http://pastie.org or similar to host
[16:09] <nell> http://sprunge.us/QRTO
[16:09] <nell> i just applied 349.16 and i gotta reset to set changes i tink
[16:09] <nell> reboot* sorry. I have the Quadro 1000M
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> nell: sudo dpkg -P nvidia-346 nvidia-opencl-icd-304    will help clean up, you could try:   sudo nvidia-xconfig      then use the xorg.conf file to set the resolution
[16:11] <simon_> hello
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> nell: are you planning to run 3D games in Ubuntu ?
[16:11] <flexi7> hi
[16:11] <flexi7> how do you enable remote ports for e.g. 6311 ?
[16:12] <nell> ActionParsnip its for this one program that uses openGL, its not really a game but its 3D
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> flexi7: by default, ubuntu allows all incoming traffic
[16:12] <nell> [it's a 3D web browser im testing for Virtual/Augmented Reality research]
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> nell: I see
[16:12] <XenophonF> i guess there isn't a way to create and mount a luks container in one step, so i can't just let cryptsetup read 128 bytes or something from /dev/urandom
[16:13] <nell> upon invoking sudo dpkg -P nvidia-346 nvidia-opencl-icd-304
[16:13] <nell> do I reboot?
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> nell: worth a try
[16:13] <XenophonF> looks like i'd have to generate a random key, save it somewhere, etc. - which kind of defeats the purpose of have a swap partition encrypted with a one-time key
[16:13] <nell> I'll brb then
[16:13] <daftykins> flexi7: open it on your router first
[16:13] <stacks88> I tried to google, maybe im not googling the right things. Can someone point me to where I can find out when 14.04 LTS support ends? Like its long term release right? but for how long
[16:13] <stacks88> until what year
[16:14] <daftykins> stacks88: 5 years from release, so 2019 April 30th
[16:14] <stacks88> Thank you daftykins
[16:14] <flexi7> i ll try it
[16:14] <stacks88> Is it always 5 years from release?
[16:14] <daftykins> this information is freely available online
[16:14] <stacks88> Or just this one particular one
[16:14] <daftykins> only for LTS
[16:14] <daftykins> !lts
[16:14] <stacks88> ok
[16:14] <flexi7> worked thx
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> stacks88: LTS is 5 years support, so will end in April 2019
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> stacks88: the version numbers make calculating that stuff a snap
[16:15] <stacks88> By using LTS, that means that I don't have to upgrade to a newer version (thats not LTS) and that also means that the packages will be updated and considered secure, correct?
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> stacks88: yes, and tested to be solid
[16:16] <kunji> stacks88: packages will receive security upgrades and will eventually be upgraded to newer versions, they may not always be the latest versions though.
[16:16] <stacks88> kunji understood, thanks
[16:16] <stacks88> On my ubuntu server 14.04.2 LTS, ive ran apt-get update;apt-get upgrade.. all packages updated, except it says The following packages have been kept back:  linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic -- so does this mean that I should do apt-get dist-upgrade ? And that will upgrade the kernel, BUT still keep me on LTS, correct? and the only way to upgrade PAST LTS is to do:
[16:16] <stacks88> do-release-upgrade , correct?
[16:17] <stacks88> in other words, apt-get dist-upgrade is not going to push me off LTS (to a non-lts)
[16:17] <kunji> stacks88: dist-upgrade
[16:17] <stacks88> want to remain on LTS*
[16:17] <kunji> stacks88: right
[16:17] <stacks88> ok great
[16:18] <stacks88> and sorry one last thing (i think), by doing dist-upgrade, will the new kernel already be in effect or will it require a reboot?
[16:18] <petrvs> reboot almost certainly
[16:18] <stacks88> ok
[16:18] <petrvs> don't think Ubuntu has any ksplice/kexec stuff setup
[16:18] <petrvs> few distros have
[16:18] <petrvs> some might argue few would even want to
[16:19] <petrvs> patching huge spanking new security vulnerabilities is great, but in general, the solution to 100% uptime is redundant servers
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> stacks88: in the kernel 4.0 and onwards it wont be required
[16:19] <stacks88> thats cool
[16:19] <petrvs> ActionParsnip: rebooting?
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> petrvs: wont be needed to change kernel
[16:20] <petrvs> that is cool
[16:20] <charlie_sanders> anyone have an epson scanner / printer ?  If so, how do you initiate a scan ?
[16:20] <petrvs> patches <3
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> charlie_sanders: use simple scan or xsane
[16:21] <nell> ActionParsnip I'm inside TTY cuz my screen is black
[16:21] <charlie_sanders> ActionParsnip, simple-scan sounds more my speed :)  checking it out
[16:21] <kunji> charlie_sanders: just an FYI, simple scan is also xsane, just with a simplified interface.
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> nell: then reinstall the driver package, may help
[16:22] <charlie_sanders> ActionParsnip, kunji works!  I already had it installed apparently
[16:22] <kunji> ^_^
[16:23] <dajonesy> hi.  when I logged on today, my file manager app fonts were too large.
[16:24] <nell> gunna remove 349
[16:27] <dajonesy> I installed a different file manager, but I would like to understand the problem if possible.
[16:27] <dhruvasagar> Hi guys
[16:29] <petrvs> hi guy
[16:30] <ioria> dajonesy, well, in edit-preferences, usually you can set the icon scale
[16:30] <EriC^^> dajonesy: you probably pressed ctrl+mouse scroll
[16:30] <JustPie__work> Hey all, I'm running into a rather strange issue. If i type rm -rf /dir name. It gives me the following message "rm: cannot remove ‘annotations/’: Directory not empty" The permissions are correct and are set to 777... Could anyone shead some light on this?
[16:31] <EriC^^> JustPie__work: who do you own the dir? and the dir before it?
[16:32] <EriC^^> JustPie__work: type ls -ld . ..
[16:32] <JustPie__work> EriC^^:  root does
[16:32] <EriC^^> for both dirs?
[16:33] <JustPie__work> yeah
[16:33] <EriC^^> you can't delete it, you need sudo
[16:33] <JustPie__work> its a vagrant machine, even if i use sudo it doesn't work
[16:33] <JustPie__work> gives the same error
[16:33] <EriC^^> type lsattr
[16:33] <EriC^^> lsattr /dir
[16:34] <Eldunar> Hello. I have a problem with empathy. I can not log into facebook chat via empathy. Pidgin works well with facebook.
[16:34] <somsip> Eldunar: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/facebook-chat-api-empathy-pidgin-stop-working
[16:34] <xangua> Eldunar: facebook has shutted down their XMPP  servers
[16:35] <JustPie__work> EriC^^:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/10963344/
[16:35] <Eldunar> so there is no way in trying with empathy?
[16:35] <Eldunar> just stick with pidgin?
[16:36] <xangua> it still works in pidgin for mee too, but probably will stop soon
[16:36] <Eldunar> damn;/ so nvm thanks for info guys:) have  a nice day :)
[16:37] <stacks88> on this digitalocean KVM vps, I have: Linux digitalocean 3.11.0-12-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP , so I ran apt-get update;apt-get upgrade ; apt-get dist-upgrade , and let it update The following packages will be upgraded: linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic and said new packages will be installed:   linux-headers-3.13.0-51 linux-headers-3.13.0-51-generic  linux-image-3.13.0-51-generic
[16:37] <stacks88> linux-image-extra-3.13.0-51-generic .. i ended up typing reboot, but noticed that when it came back its still 3.11.0-12 Linux digitalocean 3.11.0-12-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP.. Was I suppose to type update-grub before rebooting ?
[16:38] <daftykins> stacks88: no - and read digitalocean's guides on what you can do about what kernel is running
[16:38] <stacks88> ah ok so its different for them, ok then
[16:38] <stacks88> i assumed since it was kvm it would be the same as any other real machine
[16:39] <dajonesy> right guys, user can zoom fonts (cntl+-, or cntl+scroll) but the problem is the smallest fonts are displayed gianormously, about 16 lines/screen
[16:39] <daftykins> stacks88: well the fact DO email you a root password right away is a sure sign it's not a normal ubuntu machine :>
[16:40] <dajonesy> no other application seems to be troubled in this way.  only the default file manager app.
[16:40] <stacks88> what you described, even on a real dedicated machine, how hard would it be to auto install ubuntu and then define a temporary root password
[16:40] <stacks88> and email it
[16:40] <kk0710> any network guru's in here who want to look at the last few entries in my sylog and help me figure out what is going on with my realtek wireless adapter?  I was having problems from the get go but thought I had them figured out by following some instructions in the forums but then I got a response from a bug report I sent in and told to update the firmware on my router, now the problem is back but 10 times worse and I have no clue anymore.
[16:41] <fermion> daftykins and ubottu, i have entered in the recovery mode and i run that that command and i got the following: https://www.dropbox.com/s/34oag6h8sp9fv4b/20150501_173041.JPG?dl=0
[16:41] <daftykins> kk0710: if you updated router firmware, factory reset it and configure it again from scratch
[16:41] <ioria> kk0710, lsusb ?
[16:41] <daftykins> fermion: it's sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[16:42] <XenophonF> ah i figured out how to do the encrypted swap
[16:42] <kk0710> daftykins, I am only having problems on one laptop and only when boted into unbuntu?
[16:42] <daftykins> kk0710: i would do it regardless.
[16:42] <XenophonF> you have to add something like "cryptswap0 /dev/disk/by-partlabel/swap0 /dev/urandom swap,cipher=aes-xts-plain64,hash=sha512" to /etc/crypttab
[16:42] <XenophonF> and then you can run "cryptdisks_start cryptswap0"
[16:42] <daftykins> XenophonF: nobody is doing your setup so it's absolutely pointless you sharing this
[16:43] <XenophonF> daftykins: my apologies - i'll leave the channel
[16:43] <kk0710> daftykins, ok I wil ad it to my list of things to do, I am also going to do a fresh install of 14.04 on here and start everything from scratch.  I am almost to the point of buying an ubuntu safe laptop and getting rid of this  thing
[16:43] <kk0710> ioria, I assume you meant lspci?
[16:44] <ioria> kk0710, it's not a usb wifi adapter ?
[16:44] <daftykins> kk0710: sounds like a good idea, or just getting a supported wifi card
[16:44] <kk0710> daftykins, would you mind taking a look at my syslog, I tailed it last night and there were some wlan0 entries the last 8 hours
[16:44] <stacks88> okay but on a real machine (dedicated server), i have a ubuntu box that is 14.04.2, it says The following packages have been kept back:  linux-image-generic linux-image-server -- so for this actual machine, i would do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade , and then reboot? Or would i do update-grub first *then* reboot? wanting to stay on LTS
[16:44] <kk0710> daftykins, supposedly this card is supported and again I had it going just fine for a while, twice actually but then something happens and it starts acting up again
[16:45] <fermion> daftykins
[16:45] <fermion> ubottu
[16:46] <fermion> i love u
[16:46] <fermion> that solved my problem
[16:46] <fermion> where ar u to give u a hug?
[16:46] <kk0710> daftykins, it is a RTL8188EE and there are a couple of fixes listed throughout the unbuntu forums, the one with backports seemed to work just fine, I was getting max speed on transmission Dl's without interrupt but then bug report guy told me to update my firmware and I didn't think it could hurt lol
[16:46] <kk0710> ioria, no it is ia build in wireless adapter
[16:47] <daftykins> fermion: we are legion, we are everywhere and nowhere
[16:47] <daftykins> fermion: by the way ubottu is a bot, i told her to give you the earlier link
[16:49] <guilherme> Hi
[16:49] <kk0710> ok well here is a paste of the last few hours of my syslog.
[16:49] <kk0710> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10963440/
[16:49] <fermion> guilherme, we are not very hellowish here, buit anyway, hello
[16:49] <dajonesy> here is a better description of the problem: file manager icon images scale properly with cntl+scroll changes, but text is persistently displayed in max font size regardless of zoom
[16:50] <guilherme> Lol, it's been about 10+ that I had connected to IRC
[16:50] <guilherme> Glad to be b
[16:50] <guilherme> *back
[16:51] <daftykins> guilherme: ok, support channel only in here though please - #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[16:51] <kk0710> what really bothers me about this wireless adapter is that the EE doesn't have a download on the realtek website
[16:52] <daftykins> kk0710: you don't download drivers in Linux land anyway
[16:52] <daftykins> very Windows mentality that :>
[16:53] <comodo_dragon> :D
[16:53] <kk0710> daftykins, perhaps my syntax was incorrect, allow me to clarify lol
[16:53] <daftykins> i think i follow you ok
[16:53] <kk0710> daftykins, actually my syntax comes right from ubuntu lol
[16:53] <daftykins> wat
[16:53] <kk0710> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LinuxWireless number 13
[16:55] <nullbyte_> how can I install Mac OS X style panel and i want to remove default one in left?
[16:56] <xangua> nullbyte_: you mean a "dock" not a panel
[16:56] <nullbyte_> yes dock
[16:56] <daftykins> your best bet is to not use unity.
[16:57] <xangua> and you may banna try gnome fallback mode
[16:57] <nell> the directions to install nvidia drivres on ubuntu are really confusing
[16:57] <xangua> or any other desktop enviroment
[16:58] <storn> kk0710: your syslog suggests that you are being authenticated and deauthenticated in a cyclic manner
[16:59] <kk0710> storn, that is basically what I thought too but wasn't sure if that was a clue to the specific problem?  I am in the process of backing up this laptop then going to restore it to factory then do a clean install of 14.04, while doing this I will reset the router too once I figur eout how but want to be prepared if it does not fix the problem.   Also thank you for looking at it!
[17:00] <nbusrone> daftykins : Sorry for the late reply the nvidia version http://imgur.com/mtu1AY9
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> nullbyte_  install cairo dock, logout, switch, login
[17:00] <nullbyte_> MonkeyDust: cairo from where is the question
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> nullbyte_  and if you're in 15.04: there's "plank"
[17:01] <MonkeyDust> nullbyte_  from the software sources
[17:01] <nullbyte_> ok
[17:01] <nullbyte_> what is a plank?
[17:01] <nullbyte_> where is that
[17:01] <xangua> a dock
[17:01] <ioria> kk0710, what kernel are you using ?
[17:02] <MonkeyDust> nullbyte_  the software center, if you like
[17:02] <kk0710> 3.13.0-49-generic
[17:03] <nullbyte_> MonkeyDust: yes done, i am with plank now:)
[17:03] <nullbyte_> MonkeyDust: : how can i disable default dock in left
[17:07] <ioria> kk0710, have you already tried the backport solution ?
[17:07] <kk0710> ioria, yes and it worked until I updated my firmware
[17:07] <kk0710> ioria, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2264505 post number 5 is what I did
[17:08] <ioria> kk0710, firmware on your router  or in ubuntu ?
[17:08] <kk0710> ioria, the problem was I was getting instructions from the bug report guy of things to try too and I did a lot of other things so I can't pinpoint the exactly problem
[17:08] <kk0710> ioria, on my router
[17:08] <kk0710> that is why I am going to do a full reset of the router and fresh install and go immediately to the backport solution
[17:09] <ioria> kk0710, the simple router reset didn't work ?
[17:09] <kk0710> I mean I did a power down on it if that is what you mean
[17:10] <ioria> kk0710, no
[17:10] <ioria> kk0710, you have to follow the manual,   on mine you have to press for 10 secs on a specific button
[17:10] <kk0710> im looking now
[17:11] <kk0710> but I dont have issues with any other devices on wireless
[17:11] <kk0710> not even this laptop when it is in windows
[17:11] <geri> post ubuntu
[17:11] <geri> paste
[17:11] <geri> how can a paste from ubuntu cmd line?
[17:11] <kk0710> geri ctrl shift c
[17:13] <geri> kk0710: not that
[17:13] <kk0710> geri, then clarify your question
[17:13] <geri> cat file | url_paste_service
[17:13] <SCHAAP137> you want to output a pastbin from the terminal itself?
[17:13] <genii> !pastebinit
[17:13] <kk0710> ah
[17:15] <nbt> geri: echo just testing!  | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:23] <gspe> Hi, this morning I was cleaning my desk and I turned off the power with the pc on. Now I am not able to boot the pc in UEFI mode I have tested usb too but noting, I was not able to boot anymore. Some one can suggest me something to try? Thank you
[17:24] <SchrodingersScat> gspe: you weren't even able to boot into usb?  that sounds like a problem
[17:25] <gspe> Yes correct, first I think at some hardware failure, but after some test I discovered that is the UEFI bios
[17:26] <gspe> Legacy Bios boot but UEFI not
[17:30] <sai> hello
[17:30] <ioria> gspe did you check the power-on option in uefi ?
[17:34] <sai> i have a server listening on unix socket, what software should i use to connect to it
[17:36] <SCHAAP137> sai, that depends on what you're serving
[17:41] <Parsi> i want to remove ruby2 and keep ruby1.9.3 in ubuntu
[17:41] <Parsi> would you please help me?
[17:41] <Parsi> ruby 2.2.1p85 (2015-02-26 revision 49769) [i686-linux]
[17:41] <Parsi> current ruby version
[17:42] <OerHeks> Parsi,  how did you install ruby2 ?
[17:42] <karl_> anyone hve any ideas why I can't get my plex server to see my external drive.  I changed plex's primary group from nouser to my username so it definitely has permission but will not do anything with it
[17:42] <ikonia> define "can't see"
[17:43] <karl_> ikonia if I go to /media/username there are no further options to click on, it shows "My Passport" on the main options page but when I click on it it does nothing
[17:43] <Parsi> OerHeks, as i remember it was pre-installed
[17:44] <ikonia> karl_: what version of ubuntu is this ?
[17:44] <OerHeks> Parsi, what ubuntu version  are you on?
[17:44] <karl_> ikonia, 14.04 lts fresh installed last night
[17:44] <Parsi> 14
[17:44] <ikonia> karl_: what file system is on the external disk
[17:44] <Parsi> OerHeks
[17:44] <karl_> ntfs for for crossplatform
[17:45] <ikonia> ok - will use the "mount" command to see if it's mounted first of all
[17:45] <ikonia> if it's not mounted, nothing else matters
[17:45] <OerHeks> Parsi, 14.04 lts got 1.9.3 http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ruby
[17:45] <karl_> ikonia, am I incorrect ina ssuming that if I can see the files on it that it is not mounted?
[17:45] <ikonia> karl_: if you can see the files - it's mounted
[17:45] <ikonia> karl_: but if you can see the files what's the problem ?
[17:45] <OerHeks> Parsi i guess you have 14.10
[17:45] <Parsi> OerHeks, i'm using a vbox image file
[17:46] <karl_> ikonia, I said I can see the files no problem on unbuntu, but plex won't see them despite putting it in my usergroup
[17:46] <Parsi> OerHeks, i don't know maybe the the one who created the image file installed it
[17:46] <ikonia> karl_: because it's nft - it's being mounted as a userspace mount
[17:46] <ikonia> so only your user can access it - that is because you are using nfts
[17:46] <ikonia> (which is mounted via fuse)
[17:47] <k_sze> What's the easiest way to test that conntrack is working?
[17:47] <OerHeks> Parsi, get or make yourself a 14.04 lts vdi
[17:47] <Parsi> OerHeks, thank you
[17:50] <k_sze> hmm, I just installed conntrack using apt-get
[17:50] <yerata> Is there any open source webb vulnebility scanners written in c++?
[17:50] <k_sze> but `conntrack -E` gives me "Can't open handler"
[17:50] <karl_> ikonia, yes but I added plex to my group?
[17:51] <ikonia> karl_: so ?
[17:51] <karl_> ugh
[17:51] <karl_> I not trying to be obtuse dude vbut I don't understand your point
[17:51] <OerHeks> k_sze, try 'sudo conntrack -C'
[17:51] <ikonia> it's user spac mount
[17:51] <ikonia> space
[17:51] <karl_> ok and???
[17:51] <ikonia> a user outside your userspace won't see it
[17:51] <stacks88> Does anyone know what font this is, on ubuntu? http://i.imgur.com/NYv8CFJ.png , saw it when i bring up console
[17:52] <karl_> ok so what is the workaround?
[17:52] <ioria> maybe the issue is adding to   plugdev
[17:52] <ikonia> don't use the wong file systems
[17:52] <ikonia> or mount it globally read only
[17:52] <karl_> yes I thought it would belong to plugdev group too but it belongs to karl
[17:52] <karl_> so I added plex to the karl group thinking that would fix it
[17:52] <ikonia> it's a permission
[17:52] <ikonia> a group is not a userspace
[17:53] <ioria> groups plex ?
[17:53] <karl_> ioria, right now it is in group "karl"
[17:53] <karl_> it was in group nogroup and I thought that was the problem
[17:53] <karl_> so I did an ls -l and my passport was karl karl
[17:54] <ioria> just karl ? nothing else ?
[17:54] <karl_> so I moved plex to group karl thinking I was clevery but apparently im an idiot
[17:54] <karl_> currently nothing else
[17:55] <fazer> hi, I'm trying to upload  a patched package to PPA with dput, but I'm getting errors like: "Uploading qtbase-opensource-src_5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu4ppa1.dsc: 550 Requested action not taken: internal server error" and "errors: [Errno 110] Connection timed out"
[17:55] <ikonia> fazer: you don't upload the package
[17:55] <ikonia> you upload the fixes and let it build the package on the platform
[17:55] <karl_> so I am not sure whichi group to put plex in and what permissions need to be adjusted
[17:56] <fazer> ikonia: I know, I'm doing that
[17:56] <ikonia> fazer: cool, so what's the problem ?
[17:57] <karl_> and FYI I am not using the "wrong" file system
[17:57] <fazer> ikonia: I'm invoking this command: dput ppa:foo/ppa qtbase-opensource-src_5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu4ppa1_source.changes
[17:57] <ikonia> karl_: well you are
[17:58] <fazer> ikonia: it checks the signatures, then tries to upload files
[17:58] <karl_> Linux can see NTFS and I need portability
[17:58] <ikonia> karl_: yes itt can
[17:58] <fazer> ikonia: and then it ends with "Uploading qtbase-opensource-src_5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu4ppa1.dsc: 550 Requested action not taken: internal server error"
[17:58] <ikonia> karl_: but it needs to mount using a userspace file system
[17:58] <ikonia> or userspace mount I should say
[17:58] <OerHeks> ikonia, would adding plex to plugdev group solve this ntfs issue? or is it just the mount option 'UUID=...  /media/mountpoint ntfs-3g permissions,auto 0 0"
[17:58] <karl_> is there a way I can just force this to mount under plugdev?
[17:58] <ikonia> fazer: so the server is having an internal error
[17:58] <karl_> or can you tell me the specifics of the permissions I need to change?
[17:59] <ikonia> OerHeks: the group plugdev won't do anyhing as thats just a file system / group - this is within a userspace, the user outside the current user is trying to access it
[17:59] <ikonia> yoyu can set the mount UID which is the user it will mount the disk as, but then you'll hit the reverse problem
[18:00] <karl_> looks like I am doing a windows server then
[18:00] <ikonia> thats another optioin
[18:00] <ikonia> if that fits the needs better,
[18:00] <karl_> well I seem to be having way too many problems with ubuntu lately, gotta say I am very surprised there isn't a simple work around  for this
[18:01] <ikonia> karl_: ntfs is the wrong file system
[18:01] <ioria> karl   where 's the mount point ?
[18:01] <karl_> im resetting my laptop now trying to figure a networking problem out and was hoping to at least getg this figured out while I waited on that
[18:01] <ikonia> it's not a supported file system - hence why it uses "fuse"
[18:01] <karl_> well I need portability
[18:01] <ikonia> a simple read of the fuse doc suggest the allow_other parameter mayy work, but may cause you more problems
[18:02] <karl_> and in fact doesn't ubuntu create ntfs usb's when creating startup disks
[18:02] <karl_> how is it not supported?
[18:02] <sjmikem> redshift seems to make my touchpad die frequently.  Switching to console mode and back (Ctrl-F2, Ctrl-F7) restores it.  Any ideas how to fix?
[18:02] <ikonia> karl_: no, it doesn't use NFTS
[18:02] <ikonia> karl_: it's not supported as it's a microsoft file system that someone has tried to reverse engineer
[18:02] <ikonia> and done a great job I may add
[18:02] <ikonia> but there are limits or complexities
[18:02] <ikonia> eg: no permissions support
[18:03] <hkrrsx> morning
[18:03] <zuron7>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER zuron7 pjbcsxkvyesy
[18:03] <karl_> well I am stuck because I want to use this drive as a backup device for multiple operating systems when needed
[18:03] <zuron7> well, crap
[18:03] <karl_> maybe I should just buy an internal drive
[18:03] <ikonia> thats not very portible
[18:03] <xangua> zuron7: no numbers or symbols in your password¿
[18:03] <BluesKaj> zuron7, wrong textbox , try the server, but change the pw
[18:03] <karl_> this unit runs an ssd which is too small for media
[18:04] <ikonia> I don't understand what that has to do with it
[18:04] <ikonia> you said you need portable disk - then say you'll buy an internal
[18:04] <ikonia> that doesn't seem very portable
[18:04] <karl_> you aren't understanding me
[18:04] <ioria> karl   where 's the mount point ? in /media ?
[18:04] <zuron7> I realised after pasting it in.
[18:04] <karl_> really wow? lol
[18:04] <zuron7> Thanks anyway.
[18:05] <karl_> I meant buy another internal disk for my media server
[18:05] <karl_> ioria, he is right it is under my username
[18:07] <ioria> karl   /media is used by the system ,  try another point
[18:07] <ikonia> used by the system ?
[18:08] <ikonia> what /
[18:08] <ioria> ikonia no ?
[18:08] <ikonia> ioria: no whaht ?
[18:08] <ikonia> what
[18:08] <ioria> "media is a System Folder for exclusive use by the System to mount and unmount removable devices."
[18:08] <ikonia> no
[18:09] <bigred15> Does anyone else get a ridiculous amount of Ubuntu "system error" popups?
[18:09] <ikonia> it a directory like any other
[18:12] <area51pilot> list
[18:14] <skinux> How many apps are there developed/being developed using Ubuntu SDK (desktop, not mobile) ?
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> skinux  #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:17] <FloKat> hi
[18:17] <nullbyte_> how can i disable default dock in left?
[18:17] <segaboy> hi FloKat :)
[18:17] <FloKat> :p
[18:18] <yerata> Is there any opensouce sqli vulnebility scanner written in c/c++?
[18:18] <daftykins> nullbyte_: as i said earlier you're better off using non-unity if you want to turn your ubuntu install into something looking like a Mac *spits*
[18:19] <nullbyte_> daftykins: did you use gnome.extensions.org?
[18:20] <daftykins> nullbyte_: i do not use desktop ubuntu
[18:20] <xangua> nullbyte_: if you want yo use gnome extensions, you need to run gnome-shell, not unity
[18:20] <FloKat> I think I have a display problem with my Software center... Vanilla display : http://www.ubuntu-fr.org/sites/ubuntu-fr.org/files/screenshots/12.10/4_Logitheque.png // Mine : http://postimg.org/image/6f4bsil8f/
[18:21] <FloKat> Maybe some missing packages ?
[18:24] <fazer> ikonia: I fixed my problem by changing upload method to sftp and putting ssh public key  on launchpad
[18:26] <useruser> Hello, I have a old dell inspiron n4010 with Ubuntu, I think I need an upgrade, Can I put SSD on it or should I buy a new laptop?
[18:28] <compdoc> useruser, an ssd will help a lot. do you want to keep it?
[18:29] <daftykins> useruser: depends on the rest of the hardware spec as to whether it's worth bothering
[18:30] <useruser> compdoc:  If I add an SSD, I can buy a better new one in a couple of months
[18:30] <compdoc> useruser, the ssd will be useful for years
[18:33] <useruser> compdoc:  the laptop have an i3 processor and 3GB RAM, should I add RAM too?
[18:34] <compdoc> useruser, 3GB isnt too bad. you planning on giving the lapto away later?
[18:35] <Bashing-om> useruser: In my opinion, there is no such thing as too little ram . I do think of 4 Gigs - now-a-days - as a minimum for what we now do with our computers.
[18:37] <useruser> compdoc:  I will give it to my brother after buying new laptop, I think he can play enough with it.
[18:37] <darthanubis> 4gb is not needed for facebook
[18:37] <zuron7> chrome needs 4gb
[18:37] <darthanubis> yeah, no
[18:38] <darthanubis> it may use 4gb, but does not need
[18:38] <useruser> Bashing-om: I think the same, I haven't used that much RAM, It might use little more RAM if I use vagrant or something like that.
[18:38] <zuron7> theres noticable lag with less than 4gb that's all
[18:38] <useruser> zuron7: lol :D
[18:38] <zuron7> there are always other lightweight browsers out there though
[18:39] <darthanubis> on your machine
[18:39] <blb3383> so, 15.04 uses systemd i've heard
[18:39] <Bashing-om> useruser: An acceptable level of performance is doable with 2 Gigs . But 4 is better  !
[18:39] <darthanubis> yup
[18:39] <newuser789> any channel for terminal scripting ?
[18:39] <b4tm4n> so, ubuntu has moved to systemd, but can I still use upstart scripts to start applications?
[18:40] <zuron7> try #bash
[18:40] <RepThis1> zerowaitstate: hey you sent me some stuff on fixing my vmware workstation 11 vmnet issue, it worked! Thx for the help.
[18:40] <newuser789> any channel for terminal scripting ?
[18:40] <al2o3-cr> newuser789: #bash
[18:40] <solsTiCe> CB21Woodson
[18:41] <useruser> any recommendation in buying an SSD? Samsung or kingstone?
[18:41] <solsTiCe> ok. so every one got my password :-)
[18:41] <geoffmcc> b4tm4n: i dont think so, but for now, if you prefer you can go back to upstart either for a single boot, or permanant change https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers
[18:41] <blb3383> should we use it too?
[18:41] <blb3383> you password I mean
[18:42] <b4tm4n> geoffmcc, maybe i'm confused, but it looks like commands like "sudo service networking restart" still work - am i missing something?
[18:42] <blb3383> well, dumping upstart was a move for the canonical for sure
[18:44] <geoffmcc> b4tm4n: yeah, me too. trying to get used to it. Maybe you can. I guess I should have not commented as I am not 100% sure. But if you do sudo service xxx status, you will see it is actually using systemd
[18:44] <blb3383> will canonical dump mir for weston?
[18:44] <useruser> compdoc:  any recommendation in buying an SSD? Samsung or kingstone?
[18:45] <darthanubis> blb3383, now your not even being serious
[18:45] <darthanubis> useruser, whatever is onsale
[18:45] <segaboy> blb3383, they would get unbelievable amounts of heat changes to a different display server at this point...
[18:46] <OerHeks> blb3383, no, ubuntu is going to get MIR, not WAYLAND
[18:46] <al2o3-cr> useruser: samsung evo or if you got the money samsung pro imo
[18:47] <segaboy> OerHeks, the person asked about Weston, which is not Wayland.  Either way, it's an improbable prospect.
[18:47] <blb3383> what display server is going to be used on debian?
[18:47] <OerHeks> segaboy, never heard of weston.
[18:48] <OerHeks> blb3383, please ask in #debian. this is ubuntu support only.
[18:48] <blb3383> OerHeks: no, I'm just trying to figure out if they'll switch later to what debian will use
[18:49] <bazhang> blb3383, try ##linux
[18:49] <bazhang> blb3383, or #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:50] <geoffmcc> im at a bit of loss here and cant find answer on google. With both Samba & NFS, when I transfer large amounts of files it uses a bunch of ram, to be expected. However when tranfer is done, I never get it back. I check nmon and there is no cpu use and no disk write. I only get memory back if I unmount the drive. Any ideas why? Should I not be sharing a USB drive?
[18:50] <OerHeks> blb3383, no, ubuntu is going to get its own package managment too ... so figure out.
[18:50] <blb3383> OerHeks: so I've heard
[18:50] <blb3383> what's its name, somethings with s
[18:50] <SchrodingersScat> !ram | geoffmcc , you mean 'never get it back' like this?
[18:51] <b4tm4n> can i still use upstart scripts in 15.04 or do all init scripts need to be systemd?
[18:51] <blb3383> spotify blocks other words
[18:52] <b4tm4n> i'm confused becuase it looks like there are tons of upstart scripts in 15.04
[18:53] <zuron7> Question, is upgrading to 15.04 from 14.04 worth it?
[18:54] <Bashing-om> b4tm4n: Not running 15.04 as of yet, This https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers may help answer our questions.
[18:54] <darthanubis> zuron7, no one can answer that for you
[18:54] <b4tm4n> Bashing-om, yeah, been reading that but not really answering my questions
[18:54] <darthanubis> but no
[18:54] <darthanubis> nothing new or exciting. Read online reviews
[18:54] <zuron7> I mean in terms of stability, how is it?
[18:55] <zuron7> with regards to systemd
[18:55] <darthanubis> it's going to vary by machine
[18:55] <darthanubis> whats stable for me might not be for you
[18:55] <darthanubis> systemd is systemd
[18:56] <OerHeks> zuron7,  if you want stable, stick to 14.04 lts
[18:57] <brainwash> !lts
[18:57] <blb3383> this new ubuntu package management, are they suppose to ship statically liked stuff?
[18:57] <OerHeks> stable = boring, cutting edge = fun
[18:57] <zuron7> yep, i know that
[18:57] <xangua> !ot | blb3383
[18:57] <zuron7> was just curious about systemd
[18:58] <zuron7> https://devuan.org/
[18:58] <OerHeks> blb3383, take a read, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ubuntu-15.10-deb-to-snap
[18:58] <zuron7> especially after reading that
[18:58] <darthanubis> zuron7, ask a systemd specific question related to ubuntu support
[18:58] <darthanubis> or #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:58] <zuron7> I'm just reading in general
[18:58] <zuron7> will come back after I know more.
[18:59] <blb3383> ah, it's called snappy, not spotify
[19:00] <geoffmcc> SchrodingersScat: I think so.. top says 3314748 and free -m says 2623436. This also explains why even with all the use, if I log in via ssh it tells me i am only using 4%
[19:01] <k1l_> blb3383: we cant tell you. it needs to be explained on the next UOS first
[19:03] <SchrodingersScat> geoffmcc: then on the unmount it might decide it definitely doesn't need that anymore.  just a guess.  If you experience an problem then it would be worth looking into, otherwise it's not unusual for things to be kept in ram.
[19:05] <b4tm4n> without switching back to upstart on 15.04, can I still use upstart scripts?
[19:06] <geoffmcc> SchrodingersScat: yeah, I think you got it spot on.. Im going to transfer some files again and check agian. I also noticed the same thing while using vagrant. Would only show full mem on restart. I now think wasnt using as much ram as I originally thought. Thanks for the suggestion
[19:07] <b4tm4n> /etc/init/ still contains tons of upstart scripts
[19:08] <geoffmcc> b4tm4n: After some thought, I think that is in case you wish to switch back to upstart
[19:09] <tonyyarusso> I have a system that I'm trying to triple-boot Ubuntu, Debian, and Fedora.  For each of them the / is on a LUKS-encrypted LVM volume, and /boot is on a regular partition (sda1 for Debian, sda2 for Fedora, and sda3 for Ubuntu).  Right now os-prober/update-grub is only detecting Ubuntu.  How do I make it notice the other systems for the grub menu?
[19:10] <jeffreylevesque> i'm trying to mount a usb to my ubuntu VM
[19:10] <jeffreylevesque> do all mounts goto /media directory?
[19:10] <segaboy> jeffreylevesque, what hypervisor?
[19:10] <geoffmcc> b4tm4n: also it was my understanding that /etc/init is systemd and /etc/init.d was upstart
[19:11] <brainwash> b4tm4n: still use them? what are you trying to do with them?
[19:11] <b4tm4n> geoffmcc, /etc/init is upstart
[19:11] <jeffreylevesque> virtualbox
[19:12] <brainwash> /etc/init.d is SysV
[19:12] <SchrodingersScat> jeffreylevesque: afaik they go it /media/$(whoami)/
[19:12] <jeffreylevesque> shoot ;(
[19:13] <k1l_> b4tm4n: you still can choose upstart in grub. so the "old" scripts need to be in place
[19:13] <genii> geoffmcc: /etc/init Upstart, /etc/init.d is both sysvinit and systemd
[19:13] <b4tm4n> brainwash, i just upgraded to 15.04 because I'm at the beginning stages of a project - I had already written several upstart scripts and am curious if I can use them without reverting back to upstart
[19:13] <jeffreylevesque> i created a usb filter in vagrant configs - https://github.com/jeff1evesque/iScanner/issues/30#issuecomment-98148465, the definition is correct i think
[19:13] <kaiioriblack> hola
[19:13] <brainwash> you can still select upstart in grub? wasn't this option removed after hitting final stage?
[19:13] <kaiioriblack> alguien en español
[19:13] <kaiioriblack> XD
[19:13] <jeffreylevesque> but, when i goto my VM, i don't see anythin in `/media/` directory
[19:13] <genii> !es | kaiioriblack
[19:13] <b4tm4n> brainwash, it's beginning to look like i need to rewrite them in systemd
[19:14] <brainwash> b4tm4n: indeed, try to convert them. should be easy
[19:14] <brainwash> b4tm4n: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers
[19:14] <kaiioriblack> gracias ubottu
[19:14] <foo> How do I know what version of ubuntu I'm on ?
[19:15] <b4tm4n> brainwash, not for me... :)
[19:15] <k1l_> foo: "lsb_release -d"
[19:15] <brainwash> b4tm4n: just give it a try :P
[19:15] <b4tm4n> brainwash, oh, i will
[19:15] <nikolam> I don't have ANY sound on eeepc701, I have Xubuntu 12.04. It's kernel 3.2.0-48-generic
[19:16] <nikolam> it worked before updates on same hardware
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> nikolam  that 12.04?
[19:16] <nikolam> yes
[19:17] <t5un4m1> hello
[19:18] <t5un4m1> wondering if anyone has been experiencing these symptoms with ubuntu 15.04: hotkeys ctrl-alt-L stops working randomly, the mouse stops working randomly, trying to establish a pptp vpn connection bc /usr/sbin/pptp crashes
[19:20] <t5un4m1> also a shutdown causes a restart (but I'm pretty sure this is a kernel bug)
[19:21] <foo> k1l_: thank you
[19:21] <foo> Unfortunately, I need to downgrade to PHP 5.3 on Ubuntu 14.04. Any best practice to do this? Currently googling. Finding several answers but problems with the answers.
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> !downgrade | foo
[19:22] <foo> ubottu: That's for downgrading PHP or Ubuntu?
[19:22] <foo> MonkeyDust: ^^
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> foo  try a newer version of php, but certainly not an older
[19:24] <foo> eh, this web system we have has some requirements with it. Thanks, I'll keep digging
[19:25] <nikolam> foo you can try comping older package by gettinng it's sources, but it would probably require other oder packages/libraries, too.
[19:25] <foo> nikolam: yeah, I saw someone suggest that, but all the results are ridden with errors. Currently looking at options. Thank you!
[19:26] <Guest18501> Is there some documentation on how to enable automatic startup of svnserve on Ubuntu 15.04, now that it uses systemd? The documentation at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion mentions how to to it with "upstart", but not systemd. I would prefer not to use xinetd.
[19:27] <nikolam> foo, Maybe running older supported minimal installation release with older package inside, Xen, KVM, Virtualbox, LXC or other VM (docker) could be better.
[19:27] <chaser> hello everyone!
[19:27] <foo> nikolam: Docker could be interesting, I didn't think about that. Not a bad idea
[19:28] <OerHeks> there is a good wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers
[19:28] <Dro__> hi, how can i delete from line x to line y of a file
[19:28] <nikolam> foo, just make sure to avoid binary-only precooked VMs you can't reproduce yourself.
[19:29] <chaser> how can I find the new source list of the mint 17?
[19:29] <OerHeks> !mint
[19:29] <chaser> how can I find the new source list of the ubuntu?
[19:29] <k1l_> chaser: dont try to fool us. ask the mint support please
[19:29] <OerHeks> chaser, you will find it in their irc channel
[19:30] <genii> !mint
[19:30] <chaser> ok
[19:30] <chaser> got it!
[19:30] <chaser> THANKS!
[19:35] <xangua> another happy customer
[19:36] <nikolam> Dro__, see perl, grep, ack,
[19:39] <Boogie> Chromium signs out every time I close the application. Just now it wouldn't even open. Just reinstalled. Hoping this will fix. Happened after streaming movies on a crappy website. Any ideas what happened?
[19:39] <Boogie> Running 12.04
[19:39] <daftykins> check for iffy extensions
[19:40] <daftykins> but you appear to have said chromium and not chrome, so hmm
[19:40] <Boogie> Same difference, kind of.
[19:41] <Boogie> It opened this time.
[19:41] <Whitor> Hi all, Does anyone know of an image viewing and cataloging application that also lets you view .zip files as though they are directories?    I have one for windows... just looking for the same over here.
[19:41] <Boogie> It was already signed in. Wtf?
[19:44] <daftykins> Boogie: nah day and night difference :)
[19:44] <Boogie> Well, they act the same, I was meaning.
[19:45] <daftykins> err ok :)
[19:46] <TenLeftFingers_> Any ideas why I can't access my latest samba share from nautilus? I can connect from the CLI and nautilus will connect to the other shares but denies access to this one..
[19:46] <TenLeftFingers_> Firefox also can't connect so I'm guessing it's a config thing but I've done the usual suspects: checked the syntax of smb.conf with that tool (I forget the name), and restarted the server.
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> TenLeftFingers_  try gigolo
[19:47] <nikolam> Whitor, sounds like a job for file manager application, that unpack parts of archive one wans to read
[19:47] <TenLeftFingers_> MonkeyDust: I may do that, thank you.
[19:48] <Whitor> nikolam, the default archive manager application does this. I want to view all files contained as thumbnails.
[19:49] <Whitor> Thumbs Plus! does this
[19:49] <TenLeftFingers_> MonkeyDust: that did the trick - and even opened it in Nautilus! What the heck is this magic??
[19:49] <Whitor> I suppose I could try getting it working under wine... but that seems a little sloppy
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> TenLeftFingers_  glad you're helped
[19:51] <area51pilot_> area51pilot
[19:51] <Gamer> hi
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> area51pilot_  it works, we see you
[19:52] <area51pilot_> I was trying to remove the underscore
[19:52] <nikolam> Whitor, it depends on Desktop environment and it's file manager you use. Here is described ZIP solution on FUSE , mentioning KIO for GNOME. It's called VFS : https://code.google.com/p/fuse-zip/
[19:52] <cfhowlett> area51pilot, ask your ubuntu question
[19:52] <k1l_> area51pilot_: /nick newnick
[19:56] <nikolam> Whitor, using ZIP files locally for compression is LAME. One can use file-system level transparent compression, like on ZFS (zfsonlinux) with more compression algorithms to choose and BTRFS
[19:58] <petrvs> also, zip just sucks at compression
[19:58] <nikolam> all those nifty apps do is temporary unpacking file(s) from archives in temp foder for asking app. That can be done in one-liner script.
[20:00] <nikolam> yeah petris OpenZFS also have transparent lz4 (apart from gzip-9, lzma)
[20:01] <Whitor> nikolam, I didn't ask for your opinion on the use of zip files. But thank you anyway.
[20:01] <petrvs> zip!
[20:19] <Nitzerisch> hello, anyone plays OpenRA on Ubuntu?, OpenRa is red alert but rebuild with opensource community and works on linux like Ubuntu?
[20:20] <petrvs> Nitzerisch: pardon?
[20:21] <Nitzerisch> Open red alert game
[20:21] <OerHeks> Nitzerisch, via playdeb it is possible
[20:21] <petrvs> Nitzerisch: what about it?
[20:21] <Nitzerisch> just wondering, if anyone here plays it
[20:22] <petrvs> #polls-for-gamers =P
[20:23] <Nitzerisch> thx
[20:23] <darthanubis> !ot | Nitzerisch
[20:24] <tonyyarusso> I have a system that I'm trying to triple-boot Ubuntu, Debian, and Fedora.  For each of them the / is on a LUKS-encrypted LVM volume, and /boot is on a regular partition (sda1 for Debian, sda2 for Fedora, and sda3 for Ubuntu).  Right now os-prober/update-grub is only detecting Ubuntu.  How do I make it notice the other systems for the grub menu?
[20:24] <petrvs> Nitzerisch: /msg alis list *openra*
[20:25] <petrvs> tonyyarusso: you can probably duplicate the grub.cfg lines from the other installs into each other
[20:25] <tonyyarusso> petrvs: How do I do it not manually - os-prober *should* be detecting them all.
[20:25] <petrvs> just find the relevant lines in the .cfg and add them
[20:25] <petrvs> in the custom file if you want
[20:26] <tonyyarusso> And then repeat the process every time there's a kernel update?  That's silly.
[20:26] <petrvs> in the custom file if you want
[20:26] <petrvs> try to keep up :p
[20:26] <tonyyarusso> That doesn't change what I just said.
[20:26] <petrvs> I wonder why people us grub-mkconfig
[20:27] <k1l_> tonyyarusso: you can setup own grub scripts to make the other entries
[20:28] <petrvs> might ask #grub about it, otherwise
[20:28] <petrvs> or... you could just pick one OS...
[20:28] <tonyyarusso> k1l_: What do you mean?  Shouldn't the existing scripts do it all?
[20:28] <cfhowlett> tonyyarusso, no.  that's why grub includes a whole category for adding OS's
[20:29] <tonyyarusso> It *used* to just detect everything...when was that capability removed?
[20:30] <bekks> tonyyarusso: Maybe it just has an issue with detecting your encrypted operating systems.
[20:30] <solsTiCe> hi. ealier, I opened gparted and I had to type my password. And I type it here. Why is this happening ? previously, there was that dark background that prevented any other app to tak keyboard focus when password was type ? what happened to that feature ?
[20:31] <tonyyarusso> bekks: Possibly, although normally I think it only needs to deal with the partitions used for /boot, which are not encrypted.  (Also, right now I have things set up to decrypt and mount everything, in case that was an issue - still nothing)
[20:31] <marianne> getting this error on 15.04 when updating software - W:Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/vivid/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[20:39] <Novice201y> Hi. I've .deb where app doesn't have all dependencies? Is there a cmd that will install this .deb with all needed dependencies>
[20:40] <bekks> Novice201y: Which dev for which app is it?
[20:40] <Novice201y> bekks, "dev"?
[20:40] <cfhowlett> Novice201y, installing .debs will NOT get you the dependencies.  use apt-get or the software center whenever possible
[20:40] <bekks> Novice201y: "deb".
[20:40] <Novice201y> cfhowlett, Not for this app :/
[20:41] <Novice201y> bekks, For Vivaldi web browser
[20:41] <octopiss> hi. I am trying to alter the drivers on my Ubuntu installation by using Ubuntu from a USB stick and chrooting into my installation. someone here told me how to do it, but I forgot. is there a guide somewhere on how to do this_
[20:41] <octopiss> ?
[20:42] <Bashing-om> marianne: To this time the "extras
[20:42] <bekks> Novice201y: So how do you try to install it?
[20:42] <vonsyd0w> Novice201y, is there an older version of vivaldi in the repositories? If so, I think you could use "get-build-deps" to install the dependencies beforehand
[20:42] <Novice201y> bekks, Double click.
[20:43] <Bashing-om> marianne: secton: of the repo for 15.04 have not been turned up .. diable and wait and see what the future is to be .
[20:43] <bekks> Novice201y: Better use a terminal and "sudo dpkg -i debfile"
[20:43] <marianne> Bashing-om: ok thank you very much  :-)
[20:43] <Novice201y> bekks, I'm on it.
[20:44] <vonsyd0w> pretty sure you'll get the same results when installing w/ terminal as you would when double clicking
[20:44] <marianne> Bashing-om: where would I find it listed, it's not in the software updater
[20:45] <Novice201y> bekks, There are listed needed dependencies. So could those be downloaded while installation of .deb?
[20:46] <bekks> Novice201y: You could have installed all of them manually meanwhile ;)
[20:46] <Novice201y> bekks, Not on computer, man! ;)
[20:46] <octopiss_> I messed up, Novice201y.
[20:47] <octopiss_> did anyone answer my earlier query?
[20:47] <deweydb_> can anyone tell me why my package manager is all messed up
[20:47] <deweydb_> http://pastie.org/private/dsnyajnilk4r5v3rh2xucg
[20:47] <Novice201y> bekks, What's the point of installing dependencies manually while it could be automated>
[20:47] <xangua> deweydb_: please upgrade or fresh install a supported ubuntu release
[20:47] <xangua> !saucy
[20:48] <charlie_sanders> wow, so they just drop support entirely ? good to know
[20:48] <deweydb_> oh dear, that is a lengthy solution.
[20:48] <xangua> charlie_sanders: normal releases have 9 months of support, LTS has 5 years
[20:48] <cfhowlett> deweydb_, as opposed to running an OS with NO updates or security?
[20:49] <deweydb_> waaa?
[20:49] <deweydb_> how out of date am i?
[20:49] <MonkeyDust> deweydb_  fresh install is fastest, easiest, cleanest (backup first)
[20:49] <bekks> Novice201y: It cant be automated by using dpkg.
[20:49] <Mohican> does anyone know if ubuntu gnome 15.04 has got systemd native installed?
[20:49] <charlie_sanders> deweydb_, whos machine is this ?  Did you pick up an old laptop I mean ?
[20:49] <Novice201y> bekks, Weak :/
[20:49] <cfhowlett> deweydb_, 14.04 is the current LTS.
[20:50] <vonsyd0w> i just downloaded the Vivaldi deb and there are quite a few dependencies at least on 12.04
[20:50] <deweydb_> lol not a laptop
[20:50] <deweydb_> this is my webserver *blush*
[20:51] <k1l_> deweydb_: saucy is shut down long ago. it is heavily insecure now. make sure you update
[20:51] <deweydb_> yeah looks like thats what i'm doing this weekend...
[20:51] <k1l_> !eolupgrade | deweydb_
[20:52]  * charlie_sanders makes a note to only install the .04 distros
[20:52] <vonsyd0w> i would definitely recommend a LTS release for web servers or anything critical
[20:52] <Bashing-om> marianne: I do not have access presently to 15.04, so can not advise on the GUI menthod to disable. One can back up the file " /etc/apt/sources.list " and edit the file directly by commenting out that fetch line .
[20:52] <xangua> deweydb_: you had almost a year, do it now
[20:52] <k1l_> Mohican: all 15.04 do use systemd as default
[20:53] <Mohican> nice thanks
[20:53] <xangua> charlie_sanders: not all april releases are LTS, LTS is every two years, please read the topic
[20:53] <cfhowlett> deweydb consider your system fully vulnerable until you upgrade ...
[20:54] <MonkeyDust> charlie_sanders  guess you mean the lts releases?
[20:54] <octopiss_> how do I change graphics drivers when chrooting into a Ubuntu installation?
[20:54] <deweydb_> yes. thank you. i get the point. i am looking into upgrading right now.
[20:55] <petrvs> octopiss_: from what to what?
[20:56] <Novice201y> Thanks Guys. Cheers
[20:57] <JFlash> hey!
[20:57] <JFlash> can I get the UUID for my iDevice from the linux terminal?
[20:57] <bazhang> sudo blkid
[20:57] <JFlash> what
[20:57] <JFlash> just as simple as that?
[20:57] <bazhang> !blkid | JFlash
[20:58] <JFlash> no but this is like.. the hardware uuid
[20:58] <JFlash> I mean, whatever iNumber I need to create an iProvison on their developer iWebsite
[20:59] <MonkeyDust> JFlash  start from the beginning, what are you doing and what brings you here
[20:59] <trinaldi> Folks, yesterday I installed 15.04 in an empty SSD, everything went well. The system is working and all. But, GRUB only shows that gray color (I'm using UbuntuGNOME) and I can't read the entries. If I wait the 10s the system boots just fine. I've tried changing the colors using Grub-Customizer, but with no success. Do you guys have any idea? Thanks
[21:00] <JFlash> I'm developing a iPhone app. I need to give someone else the UUID of my iDevice , which normaly you can see by pressing a button on iTUnes. but I dont want to install iShit in my computer
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> JFlash  ok, and how is that ubuntu related?
[21:01] <bekks> You cannot install itunes on non-windows or non-osx.
[21:01] <petrvs> JFlash: plug it in, lsblk -f, maybe you'll get lucky
[21:01] <petrvs> bekks: sure you can
[21:01] <petrvs> not that you'd want to
[21:01] <bazhang> no cursing here JFlash
[21:01] <bekks> petrvs: Really? Since when is that supported? :)
[21:01] <petrvs> ages, it's just no fun
[21:02] <JFlash> lol, iShit is not even a word. how can it be cursing?
[21:02] <bekks> petrvs: At least not supported by Apple.
[21:02] <petrvs> but neither is iPhoo
[21:02] <bazhang> JFlash, just stop it
[21:02] <petrvs> apple doesn't really support iTunes installs afaik anyway
[21:02] <cfhowlett> JFlash, knock it off
[21:02] <bekks> petrvs: They do, on Windows and OSX. They dont have a Linux installer.
[21:02] <petrvs> anything a person understands as something is a word
[21:03] <trinaldi> anyone...?
[21:03] <petrvs> bekks: how would they know what OS you're using
[21:03] <petrvs> trinaldi: hi
[21:03] <JFlash> MonkeyDust, I just thought I could also get this number somehow without installing iTunes, maybe using just the terminal
[21:03] <bekks> petrvs: Ask them.
[21:03] <bekks> petrvs: itunes is totally unrelated to Ubuntu support.
[21:03] <petrvs> so why're you talking about it...
[21:03] <trinaldi> hi, petrvs
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> JFlash  why do you come to this channel, if it's about itunes?
[21:04] <bekks> petrvs: You said it is supported, see the backlog.
[21:04] <petrvs> trinaldi: what's up?
[21:04] <petrvs> bekks: sure didn't, see the backlog
[21:04] <trinaldi> I posted earlier:
[21:04] <trinaldi> Folks, yesterday I installed 15.04 in an empty SSD, everything went well. The system is working and all. But, GRUB only shows that gray color (I'm using UbuntuGNOME) and I can't read the entries. If I wait the 10s the system boots just fine. I've tried changing the colors using Grub-Customizer, but with no success. Do you guys have any idea? Thanks
[21:04] <JFlash> MonkeyDust, it's not about itunes, it's about linux or ubuntu being ablle to access some information from my iDevice
[21:04] <petrvs> trinaldi: it's gray?
[21:04] <petrvs> trinaldi: you only see gray?
[21:04] <bekks> petrvs: So you forgeot why you typed yourself. EOD.
[21:04] <bekks> *forgot
[21:04] <JFlash> I'll research around and let you guys know, thank you!
[21:05] <trinaldi> Yeah, it's the UbuntuGnome background. Not solid gray
[21:05] <cfhowlett> JFlash, idevices are no more supported than itunes.
[21:05] <cfhowlett> !itunes | JFlash
[21:05] <xangua> JFlash: other than barely  mounting and be able to transfer files, GNU/Linux can't access apple devices
[21:05] <k1l> JFlash: depends on the special hardware talks along the open standards or only talks to prop. itunes.
[21:06] <JFlash> thanks for the information, guys. I'll see what solution I can come up with
[21:07] <petrvs> bekks: nope, I just have o9k reading comprehension
[21:07] <JFlash> guys I found this: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/9632/show-udid-of-iphone
[21:07] <petrvs> 'install' and 'supported by Ubuntu' are not the same thing
[21:07] <JFlash> could it be the solution?
[21:07]  * petrvs goes back to his deeds
[21:07] <bekks> petrvs: Do you know what "EOD" stands for?
[21:08] <JFlash> dammit! libimobiledevice-utils was what I was looking for!
[21:08] <JFlash> thank you guys, you are great!
[21:09] <petrvs> bekks: do you know what "IAAB" stands for?
[21:09] <daftykins> bekks + petrvs let's fight the common enemy here - not each other
[21:09] <bazhang> petrvs, take the chit chat elsewhere
[21:10] <petrvs> daftykins: where are those monsters...
[21:10] <petrvs> bazhang: he keeps asking me what initialisms mean
[21:11] <x1__> how do i wrap text in nano
[21:11] <x1__> ?
[21:11] <petrvs> trinaldi: so you just see an image?
[21:11] <petrvs> x1__: nano -w
[21:11] <Jakey2> how do i set in config file
[21:11] <petrvs> Jakey2: oh wrap is default
[21:12] <Jakey2> i get a dollar sign on mine
[21:12] <petrvs> yeah, that's wrapped
[21:12] <trinaldi> Yeah, petrvs. I saw a question on google earlier I can't find it
[21:12] <petrvs> oh that's the opposite
[21:12] <trinaldi> There's no response
[21:12] <petrvs> hrmmm, it should be the default
[21:12] <petrvs> Jakey2: try -r 8
[21:13] <petrvs> oh it's -8, so you'd want...
[21:13] <petrvs> -r $(bc <<< $(tput cols)-8)
[21:14] <petrvs> or something like that
[21:14] <Jakey2> ok thanks
[21:14] <petrvs> not sure why it's not reading your cols
[21:14] <petrvs> perhaps tput cols will also fail
[21:14] <petrvs> nano is better when it doesn't wrap, though, less chance it'll screw up your config files
[21:24] <svend> kjfrnjbngf
[21:28] <Felishia> helo?
[21:29] <Felishia> my computer won't connect to the internet
[21:29] <MonkeyDust> Felishia  wifi or cable?
[21:29] <stangeland> Hi, i want to write notes in markdown and convert those to pdf. How can i convert a markdown document to pdf in linux?
[21:29] <Felishia> Wifi
[21:29] <Felishia> however yesterday it connected
[21:30] <Felishia> after a few restarts
[21:30] <daftykins> Felishia: boot an older kernel to test perhaps
[21:30] <daftykins> eh? few restarts?
[21:30] <Felishia> yes
[21:30] <Felishia> I restarted it a few times and the wifi worked again
[21:30] <Felishia> now it doesn't matter
[21:30] <Felishia> it just doesn't work
[21:30] <daftykins> ah
[21:31] <daftykins> yeah try an older kernel
[21:32] <stacks88> does anyone know who patches things faster for software that comes w/ both debian and ubuntu ? like say for powerdns, on here http://doc.powerdns.com/md/security/powerdns-advisory-2015-01/ it says the date is april 23rd, 2015.. but it appears that ubuntu patched it april 29th, 2015 ? http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/p/pdns/pdns_3.3-2ubuntu0.1/changelog and debian jessie
[21:32] <stacks88> was april 21st, 2015.. http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/p/pdns/pdns_3.4.1-4+deb8u1_changelog .. is this just like a one time / rare thing or does debian generally patch things faster security wise vs ubuntu? or maybe im reading this all wrong..
[21:33] <k1l> stacks88: depends on patches, maintainer, depencies, software
[21:34] <bekks> stacks88: and the debian changelog is older than the upstream patch you referenced. so they werent faster, they didnt patch it :)
[21:35] <bekks> stacks88: plus, ubuntu and debian use different versions.
[21:36] <krushia> ~/close
[21:37] <mpontillo> stacks88: see https://askubuntu.com/questions/58364/whats-the-difference-between-multiverse-universe-restricted-and-main - in this case, that's a universe package (community maintained)
[21:37] <stacks88> oh shit ok
[21:38] <stacks88> mpontillo if my goal was to remain up to date w/ patches, should i restrict myself to main or something?
[21:38] <daftykins> stacks88: language :P
[21:38] <stacks88> sorry
[21:40] <mpontillo> stacks88: well, since packages in main packages are officially supported by Canonical, I would expect them to be patched faster, yes. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures
[21:40] <stacks88> thank you
[21:41] <mpontillo> stacks88: for vulnerabilities which are high risk throughout the industry, Canonical coordinates with other vendors to ensure the vulnerability can't be exploited before any single vendor patches it
[21:42] <mpontillo> stacks88: more light reading: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam ;-) you're welcome.
[22:04] <foo> Gah, I'm stuck. I have Apache + FastCGI. The problem: I am trying to run php 5.3 instead of 5.5 for some outdated software. I set up and installed php5.3 in /opt. The problem: I can't seem to figure out how to tell apache or php-fpm to use my version of php. Is there a specific flag/conf setting I should be looking for? I've checked nearly every conf file for php-fpm and apache and can't seem to spot it.
[22:07] <thc> nick teachese
[22:12] <keevitaja> anyone knows how to set chromes gmail shortcut as the default email client. somehow it doesn't show up in the settings
[22:12] <keevitaja> at the same time gnome-gmail is there.
[22:19] <stevesss1> so.. bug
[22:20] <stevesss1> kubuntu-desktop depends eventually on akonadi-server which requires akonadi-server-mysql  (even through it can be configured to use postgresql or sqlite backend)
[22:20] <stevesss1> thsi falsely requires only mysql-server-core-5.5 and mysql-client-core-5.5 and makes kubuntu incompatible with mysql 5.6
[22:20] <stevesss1> I'd like kubuntu with mysql-5.6
[22:21] <k1l> stevesss1: maybe the guys at #kubuntu do know better
[22:21] <stevesss1> (I manually modified the control file of the akonadi-server-mysql to allow mysql-server-core-5.6
[22:27] <carrera> Greetings!  :)
[22:28] <kristofers> Hello
[22:28] <kristofers> Can someone help me figure something out here
[22:28] <kristofers> I'm trying to install Virtualbox on my ubuntu 14.04
[22:28] <carrera> I tried to install 15.04 over existing SoftRAID partitions made by 14.04 but the installer failed to install grub.  Naturally I was using the NetInstall due to my RAID drives
[22:28] <kristofers> When doing so i get an error, so i do apt-get install -f
[22:28] <MonkeyDust> kristofers  what goes wrong
[22:29] <kristofers> And lists the dependencies missing, but it also wants to remove gnome-terminal gconf2
[22:29] <kristofers> i actually ran the install once, so it deleted my default terminal ...
[22:29] <kristofers> i run sudo dpkf -i virtual.deb
[22:29] <MonkeyDust> kristofers  how did you install it?
[22:29] <kristofers> it fails so i then run sudo apt-get install -f
[22:29] <kristofers> and then i rerun the dpkg
[22:29] <kristofers> and it works
[22:29] <MonkeyDust> kristofers  spare the enter key
[22:29] <kristofers> sorry
[22:30] <MonkeyDust> kristofers  try installing it with the software center
[22:30] <carrera> Can anyone tell me why 15.04 installer fails to install grub?
[22:31] <daftykins> carrera: clearly it doesn't happen for everyone, so you might need to provide some detail
[22:32] <carrera> daftykins, I did:  I tried to install 15.04 over existing SoftRAID partitions made by 14.04 but the installer failed to install grub.  Naturally I was using the NetInstall due to my RAID drives
[22:32] <daftykins> fakeRAID?
[22:32] <kristofers> is gnome-terminal the default ubuntu terminal ?
[22:33] <daftykins> yes
[22:34] <k1l> kristofers: "ubuntu-desktop" should install that as a depency
[22:34] <kristofers> yes but somehow install -f
[22:34] <kristofers> apt-get install -f removed it
[22:34] <carrera> daftykins, Yes sir, SoftRAID
[22:34] <carrera> daftykins, it worked fine when installing 14.04 via NetInstall
[22:34] <k1l> kristofers: i dont know what you did there. running -f isntall blindly is not a good idea
[22:35] <daftykins> that's not a thing :)
[22:35] <kristofers> i just ran the software updater and it removed 212 packages
[22:35] <daftykins> carrera: you should be using mini.iso or server with 15.04 onto fakeRAID
[22:35] <kostkon> kristofers, removed??
[22:35] <kristofers> yes removed
[22:35] <carrera> daftykins, that's exacty what I used for both
[22:35] <MonkeyDust> kristofers  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[22:35] <k1l> kristofers: stop running that blindly
[22:36] <daftykins> carrera: i mentioned two things
[22:36] <kristofers> why is it trying to remove everything
[22:36] <k1l> kristofers: please show the output in a pastebin
[22:36] <carrera> daftykins, I used the mini.iso file for both the 14.04 and the 15.04 installation
[22:36] <kristofers> i can't enter the os anymore
[22:36] <kristofers> just keeps sending me back to the login
[22:37] <daftykins> carrera: ok well maybe boot a desktop live session and chroot it
[22:37] <k1l> kristofers: we dont know what you are doing there. in general vbox doesnt require to remove the half system
[22:37] <k1l> kristofers: :/
[22:37] <carrera> daftykins, the Network Installer option takes you to the mini.iso file
[22:37] <daftykins> carrera: yeah yeah
[22:37] <kristofers> not vbox, update the system apparently needed to do so ...
[22:37] <kostkon> kristofers, try pressing ctrl+alt+f1  then  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --reinstall
[22:37] <k1l> kristofers: no!
[22:37] <carrera> daftykins, yeah yeah?
[22:37] <MonkeyDust> kristofers  press ctrl-alt f1 ... can you login?
[22:37] <daftykins> that was a piece of info i did not need (:
[22:37] <keevitaja> anyone knows how to set chromes gmail shortcut as the default email client. somehow it doesn't show up in the settings
[22:37] <carrera> daftykins, I was trying to provide details
[22:37] <k1l> kristofers: you isntalled faulty software that seems to mark a lot of packages to be removed.
[22:38] <MonkeyDust> kristofers  and where did you get the vbox installer?
[22:38] <carrera> daftykins, I just tried installing Grub from the Rescue menu of the mini.iso but that failed too!
[22:38] <kristofers> official site
[22:39] <bekks> kristofers: Which package exactly did you use?
[22:39] <bekks> kristofers: What was the exact filename?
[22:39] <daftykins> carrera: do we get output? :)
[22:39] <nell> 14.04 isn't recognizing my pci express card adapter
[22:40] <nell> i have got a pci express card adapter for external video graphics card for my laptop
[22:40] <daftykins> nell: it might not, it might see the device plugged into it though
[22:40] <nell> nah it doesnt yet i checked dmesg
[22:40] <nell> [  387.058400] ACPI Warning: \_SB_.PCI0.PEG_.VID_._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20131115/nsarguments-95)
[22:40] <kristofers> i'm running apt-get update
[22:40] <nell> it says that
[22:40] <kristofers> but it says failed to reolve is.archive.ubuntu.com
[22:40] <daftykins> kristofers: misconfigured DNS?
[22:41] <carrera> daftykins, I ran sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/md125
[22:41] <kristofers> it's wifi
[22:41] <kristofers> ..
[22:41] <daftykins> kristofers: yes, and wifi can have misconfigured DNS!
[22:41] <carrera> daftykins, I got:  unrecognized option '--boot-directory=/mnt/boot/proc'
[22:41] <kristofers> will plug it in ethernet
[22:41] <kristofers> i know, i meant it's not connected sorry
[22:41] <daftykins> ah :D
[22:42] <carrera> daftykins, great... I hope you solved it!
[22:42] <daftykins> wat
[22:42] <linux_dream> hi guys, can I seek help in this channel for a game on steam + Lubuntu ?
[22:42] <daftykins> linux_dream: not really, #ubuntu-steam perhaps
[22:43] <linux_dream> ok thanks
[22:43] <mojtaba> Hi, I am trying to configure my wireless card to have an extra static IP address. Could you please tell me what is wrong with this configuration? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10965941/
[22:43] <carrera> daftykins, you said, "ah :D" right after I pasted the outpout. So I thought you found out the problem
[22:44] <daftykins> carrera: it wasn't to you.
[22:44] <JFlash> hi, how to switch from openJSK to oracle
[22:44] <daftykins> mojtaba: don't use interfaces and don't use multi-homed hosts on wlan0, use NM to set the static IP
[22:44] <JFlash> as my default java JDK
[22:45] <hellhound> Can someone assist me with sleep/suspend mode.  I have 14.10 installed and sleep/suspend will only work the first time the computer is booted up.  after that first sleep/suspend it will not do it again even through the command prompt until I restart.
[22:45] <bekks> !java | JFlash
[22:47] <daftykins> carrera: don't you run grub-install from inside the chroot?
[22:47] <daftykins> carrera: e.g. http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[22:48] <carrera> daftykins, no sir
[22:48] <mojtaba> daftykins: Why not?
[22:48] <carrera> daftykins, I used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[22:49] <mojtaba> daftykins: I am using virtual machine and it has another IP address, I want to be able to connect it.
[22:49] <kristofers> Alright i'm back in
[22:49] <kristofers> but now my wifi isn't working
[22:49] <daftykins> mojtaba: so you're trying to have two IPs on the wireless interface?
[22:49] <mojtaba> daftykins: Yes
[22:49] <daftykins> mojtaba: you're going about that all wrong, you should use bridging in the VM
[22:50] <mojtaba> daftykins: Actually it is a vagrant headless server
[22:50] <daftykins> i'm not sure how that affects what i suggested
[22:51] <mojtaba> daftykins: It has a vagrant config file and within that file I can change the IP address.
[22:52] <daftykins> i think you're changing the topic completely
[22:53] <kristofers> -.- alright i'm just going to reinstall ubuntu again
[22:54] <daftykins> kristofers: because you didn't get a response in 5 minutes?
[22:54] <kristofers> no
[22:54] <kristofers> because i want to redo a clean install from scratch and figure out what i did wrong
[22:56] <kristofers> Is there an option when doing an install -f to actually only do install and not remove anything ?
[22:57] <daftykins> kristofers: i'm not familiar with the circumstances that arose for you to end up running that
[22:59] <carrera> What is the difference between 14.04 LTS Netboot and 14.04 Netboot eith HWE?
[22:59] <carrera> s/eith/with/
[22:59] <hellhound> Can someone assist me with sleep/suspend mode.  I have 14.10 installed and sleep/suspend will only work the first time the computer is booted up.  after that first sleep/suspend it will not do it again even through the command prompt until I restart.
[23:00] <daftykins> carrera: HWE = hardware enablement stack of utopic most likely, so probably has the 3.16 kernel
[23:01] <carrera> daftykins, you're absolutely right.  I just read that. But why is the HWE only suported until 2016 vs 2019 for the regular 14.04?
[23:02] <daftykins> carrera: because utopic is not LTS
[23:02] <daftykins> i avoid installing 14.04.2 for this reason, i stick to the 3.13 kernel
[23:03] <carrera> daftykins, I wish they put version numbers on the mini.iso files too
[23:04] <daftykins> *shrug*
[23:04] <daftykins> it's easy to get lost
[23:05] <carrera> daftykins, so if I use the mini.iso from the 14.04 LTS link, I will get 14.04.1 and if I used the mini.iso from the utopic's 3.16 HWE link, I will get 14.04.2, right?
[23:05] <flipapy> does ubuntu 14.04 handle trim and the 'discard noatime' thing (im still kind of a newb) by default? or out of box? or will i need to enable these things after install?
[23:06] <flipapy> is that true? http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/13/12/22/0014225/out-of-the-box-ubuntu-1404-lts-to-support-trim-on-ssds
[23:06] <daftykins> carrera: 14.04.2 media just has the utopic HWE as standard, you can still be on 3.13 and be 14.04.2
[23:06] <bazhang> !trim | flipapy
[23:07] <flipapy> thank you bazhang
[23:07] <bazhang> welcome
[23:08] <carrera> daftykins, thank you. So where can I get the right mini.iso for 14.04.2?
[23:08] <daftykins> as in with 3.13? you can't. use an older one then dist-upgrade
[23:09] <carrera> daftykins, cause the last mini.iso I got around March 25, it installed 14.04.1 but 14.04.2 was out then
[23:11] <daftykins> pass
[23:12] <darthanubis> !themes
[23:12] <darthanubis> !changethemes
[23:12] <daftykins> darthanubis: you can do that in PM to the bot so as to avoid spamming the channel :)
[23:13] <darthanubis> sorry
[23:19] <flipapy> why is it suckh a problem to have the bar change size? (the bar at tiop screen with you know, the wifi signal icon, and the time and date. etc. why cant i move it around? or change the size of the icons and lettering/ font?
[23:19] <flipapy> such*
[23:19] <MonkeyDust> flipapy  try unity-tweak-tool
[23:20] <flipapy>  think i jst realized it mght have to do with some gpu issues which makes it much more difficult to modify due to the proprietary stuff, am i right?
[23:20] <flipapy> MonkeyDust, thanks, but i hear the tweak tool might cause problems
[23:20] <flipapy> i dont want internal contradictions or anything
[23:21] <JFlash> guys, what is java auto mode and java manual mode
[23:21] <MonkeyDust> flipapy  better ask "how" than "why"
[23:21] <JFlash> I just installed oracle java
[23:21] <JFlash> but apps keep launching using openjvm
[23:21] <daftykins> flipapy: GPU? no.
[23:22] <carrera> daftykins, I'm thinking of reinstalling 14.04 but I really wanted to try the new Xubuntu 15.04.  Is this hapenning because I have RAID?
[23:22] <daftykins> JFlash: yes you need to change your default.
[23:22] <JFlash> i typed --config java and I changed to oracle
[23:22] <JFlash> but app still runs with open jdk
[23:22] <JFlash> some jvms are listed as manual mode, but oracle is listed as automode
[23:23] <daftykins> restart.
[23:23] <flipapy> MonkeyDust, good point. i guess i meant not so 'how why' philosophically, but the reason that it is fixed in the first place. or the general forum there was perhpas if someone knows, i'll just chec online and see what i find, was just wondering if someone in the chan already had some deeper experience with it. but tanks i'e tried Tweak before, maybe i'll give it another shot.
[23:23] <JFlash> ok will try
[23:23] <hiexpo> change witch flash
[23:24] <daftykins> no, Flash was a super hero, not a witch
[23:24] <Johnny_Linux> el oh el
[23:25] <baudelaire> hi
[23:25] <baudelaire> hi all
[23:25] <hiexpo> baudelaire, you need help ?
[23:26] <hiexpo> ask your ?
[23:26] <harris> hey offtopic real fast anyone here have indesign
[23:26] <SchrodingersScat> !ot | harris
[23:26] <daftykins> harris: off topic means you don't ask it here.
[23:26] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[23:26] <baudelaire> no sorry. just trying to get a hang of ubuntu and checking out xchat
[23:27] <baudelaire> so is this pretty much where one comes for technical support?
[23:27] <JFlash> hi. restarting did not work and I can see JAVA_HOME still points to the openjdk
[23:27] <JFlash> how to fix this?
[23:28] <darthanubis> !support
[23:28] <netgear> hi room! anyone have opinions on system76's wild dog? from someone who does not want to build. :)
[23:28] <Bashing-om> baudelaire: For ubuntu tech support, yes .
[23:28] <JFlash> why --config-java does not update JAVA_HOME
[23:28] <Hanz_Zimmer> Hello everyone, I just installed Ubuntu 14.04 and I have a GTX 760. I have three monitors connected to the card. 2DVI are being used and 1HDMI to DVI cable is being used. When I turn on my computer, the monitor connected to the first DVI port is used for BIOS, Grub, and booting.  But once the login screen appears, that monitor turns off and the Second DVI montior as well as the HDMI monitor turn on. Then, in Ubuntu, the first DVI m
[23:29] <SchrodingersScat> JFlash: this could be the ticket? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Choosing_the_default_Java_to_use
[23:29] <Hanz_Zimmer> I've tried both the open source driver and the proprietary driver.
[23:29] <daftykins> Hanz_Zimmer: you can't type that long a message on IRC :) "...in Ubuntu, the first DVI m..." is as far as we got
[23:29] <JFlash> SchrodingersScat, thank you
[23:29] <flipapy> Hanz_Zimmer, all i know about is the check for additional drivers thing, dod you check for aditional hardware drivers yet?
[23:29] <flipapy> oh nvm, gthats all i know about for now Hanz_Zimmer
[23:29] <daftykins> flipapy: best to stay quiet when you really don't know
[23:30] <daftykins> Hanz_Zimmer: get yourself the xorg-edgers PPA installed and try a newer driver
[23:30] <netgear> i am having issues with DVI skipping bios and just coming on when ubuntu logs in. started out of no where very weird.... also tried turning off fast boot in bios with no luck. and trying a new DVI.. :(
[23:30] <Hanz_Zimmer> What is the name of the package?
[23:31] <JFlash> SchrodingersScat, that page doesnt say anything about JAVA_HOME, unfortunately
[23:31] <daftykins> Hanz_Zimmer: i dunno read what they have version # wise then install nvidia-###
[23:31] <daftykins> Hanz_Zimmer: a PPA is not a package
[23:31] <JFlash> SchrodingersScat, I already run the installation and configuration, my problem is with JAVA_HOME
[23:32] <Hanz_Zimmer> I know it's not. I added teh PPA. I was wondering what the name of the file I was supposed to download was. I'll figure it out
[23:32] <JFlash> SchrodingersScat, when I type java --version it tells me correct java (oracle), but JAVA_HOME points to something else!
[23:32] <SchrodingersScat> JFlash: I misunderstood then, I thought you were trying to use a different version of java.
[23:32] <JFlash> SchrodingersScat, ok, no problem
[23:33] <JFlash> SchrodingersScat, you know what I must be seeting the java home var manually inside some file, I will check it out. thanks
[23:34] <SchrodingersScat> JFlash: yeah, I don't have that on mine.
[23:48] <netgear> anyone know the quality of system76's wild dog ubuntu box?
[23:49] <daftykins> netgear: i bet they do
[23:49] <netgear> i hope not bad i actually just got one lol.... did not want to build.
[23:49] <daftykins> netgear: ah, well feel free to come back with ubuntu support questions
[23:50] <netgear> i have a issue with DVI suddenly it skips bios and loads when ubuntu logs in?
[23:50] <netgear> it worked for 3 weeks did not change anything major...
[23:50] <daftykins> DVI does not load
[23:50] <netgear> VGA works
[23:51] <netgear> it has for a long time now it just loads when i login skipping bios.
[23:51] <daftykins> so when you hit power - you get to ubuntu just fine?
[23:51] <netgear> tried a new wire tested monitor with old comp ect...
[23:51] <netgear> well the screen turns on when ubuntu loads but sometimes it stays off now
[23:52] <daftykins> power save mode when a DVI connection is used?
[23:52] <netgear> for awhile it was only skipping bios and ubuntu pic while loading
[23:52] <netgear> its a pc not sure?
[23:52] <daftykins> well i was definitely sure you weren't plugging a koala into your monitor
[23:52] <netgear> i sent a message to system76 but just seems weird how it worked for weeks and vga works perfect.
[23:53] <netgear> positive been messing with it for few days two wires...
[23:53] <netgear> broke out of no where too, i did not remove or ever enter bios
[23:53] <daftykins> just to be sure - only the DVI cable is plugged into the graphics card when you try that, yes?
[23:53] <netgear> i am using on board graphics i7 btw
[23:53] <daftykins> ah
[23:53] <netgear> yep thats the only setup i use, one monitor
[23:54] <daftykins> right but *only* the DVI cable is in? you haven't got both in at once?
[23:54] <netgear> i had to dig out the vga to get on ubuntu cause it stopped loading, screen stays sleep
[23:54] <daftykins> yes, power save mode
[23:54] <netgear> 1 wire correct. weird, yes?
[23:54] <daftykins> a little.
[23:54] <netgear> right i can tell ubuntu loads but screen is like powered sleep
[23:55] <daftykins> i'm torn really because you have a pay for support option, so it makes more sense to use that
[23:55] <netgear> im sorta worried the i7 may be messed up but its new
[23:55] <daftykins> the computer would not work at all if a processor were damaged.
[23:55] <netgear> they have 1 year system76 i believe but is it worth sending back i suggose
[23:56] <netgear> my monitor takes only VGA or DIV nothing else :(
[23:56] <daftykins> netgear: why don't you phone them?
[23:56] <netgear> they were closed i left a message and sent an email
[23:56] <daftykins> try again when they're open
[23:56] <netgear> just curious any other opinions, thanks a lot tho
[23:56] <netgear> i will, would u send it back over this personally if it does not fix?
[23:57] <daftykins> no
[23:57] <netgear> could on board graphics be a sign of the processor breaking?
[23:57] <netgear> cool
[23:57] <daftykins> but then i have many years experience building and diagnosing PCs
[23:57] <netgear> i appreciate your time :)
[23:57] <daftykins> nah sounds more like a software issue
[23:57] <netgear> oh i suppose i could get a card if i need dvi later.
[23:57] <netgear> i did a fresh format
[23:57] <netgear> twice lol
[23:57] <daftykins> with which version?
[23:58] <netgear> and it worked 2 weeks ago :(
[23:58] <netgear> the new, then back to 14.10
[23:58] <netgear> it worked on 14.10 for weeks so its weird
[23:58] <netgear> comp is less than a month old, i dont play games so was not worried about getting a graphic card
[23:59] <netgear> unless it damages the i7 i rather use on board
[23:59] <daftykins> perhaps you're installing with updates enabled and keep booting into a non-working kernel