[00:06] <soee> Riddell: Kim Blaich wrote pretty long text about problems in Plasma5/Kubutn - worth checking Vivid https://plus.google.com/110954078302330754910/posts/fXjVF9UZ2kF
[02:17] <ahoneybun> valorie: still around?
[02:18] <valorie> yes
[02:18] <ahoneybun> ever heard of airbnb?
[02:18] <valorie> oh yes
[02:18] <valorie> however, I never ended up using it
[02:18] <ahoneybun> i just found out about it
[02:18] <ahoneybun> I did not either
[02:18] <shadeslayer> wh ... at 
[02:18] <shadeslayer> no wait
[02:18] <shadeslayer> I'm not supposed to be here
[02:19] <ahoneybun> I mean I could, 
[02:19] <valorie> although my place in Estonia was probably listed there
[02:19] <shadeslayer> night
[02:19] <valorie> niters shadeslayer
[02:19] <ahoneybun> night
[02:19] <valorie> ahoneybun: you want to stay with everybody else in the hostel
[02:19] <valorie> believe me
[02:19] <ahoneybun> valorie: I will as it will be much easier
[02:19] <valorie> they even have a bus hostel <> venue
[02:20] <valorie> but yeah, elsewhere it is cool
[02:20] <ahoneybun> what I was wondering is how do I get there from the airport
[02:20] <valorie> it's on the website, or will be
[02:20] <valorie> most likely just take a bus
[02:20] <ahoneybun> yea I think I saw that
[02:21] <valorie> also there will be a place on the wiki for listing your arrival and departure times so people can share taxis if necessary
[02:21] <ahoneybun> can I use my card over there?
[02:21] <valorie> what card is that?
[02:21] <ahoneybun> thats awesome
[02:21] <ahoneybun> money wise
[02:21] <valorie> if you have a chip and pin one, then yes
[02:21] <valorie> if not, you have time to apply for one
[02:21] <ahoneybun> chipand pin?
[02:22] <valorie> or ask your bank why they aren't in the 21st century
[02:22] <valorie> just google and see
[02:22] <ahoneybun> debit card
[02:22] <valorie> the rest of the world uses chip and pin
[02:22] <ahoneybun> I think I'm fine there.
[02:22] <valorie> I wouldn't count on it
[02:22] <valorie> check around
[02:23] <ahoneybun> as in having money to pay for the hotel lol
[02:23] <valorie> if you are paying online from here, no problem
[02:23] <ahoneybun> they take the money when you get there
[02:23] <valorie> getting cash from a machine in the airport might be ok
[02:23] <valorie> other places, maybe not so much
[02:23] <valorie> sure
[02:24] <ahoneybun> I used the hotel that everyone is going to be at
[02:24] <ahoneybun> I pretty much just reserved the room
[02:24] <valorie> cool
[02:24] <valorie> and if you want to share, just ask around
[02:25] <ahoneybun> I have no problems sharing, really prefer it 
[02:25] <ahoneybun> save time, money
[02:25] <ahoneybun> we all win
[02:25] <valorie> me too
[02:25] <ahoneybun> heard of SELF?
[02:25] <valorie> it's more fun
[02:25] <valorie> yes, but I've not gone yet
[02:25] <ahoneybun> I'm going to go with someone in my area
[02:25] <ahoneybun> he is doing a car pool
[02:26] <valorie> oh very cool
[02:26] <ahoneybun> yea can't wait
[02:26] <ahoneybun> for that and akademy as well lol
[02:27] <ahoneybun> how are hard is the TSA on bring back things?
[02:29] <valorie> tsa doesn't care about anything but forbidden items on board
[02:29] <valorie> it is the border people who care
[02:29] <valorie> you have to declare what you bring back
[02:30] <valorie> that's all
[02:30] <valorie> and not bring back certain food, no animals, no plants
[02:41] <ahoneybun> silly things like maybe a keychain or something
[02:44] <valorie> small stuff isn't even declared
[02:44] <valorie> you'll be fine
[02:45] <valorie> all the rules are online, and sensible
[12:01] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:14] <KDDA> hi BluesKaj
[13:15] <BluesKaj> hi KDDA
[21:05] <valorie> good grief, crickets in here today
[21:46] <Riddell> cricket cricket
[21:47]  * valorie lets loose the amphibians to clean up the chan
[21:47] <valorie> oh, unless it was men in whites, with cricket bats?
[21:48] <valorie> in which case, don't step on the frogs
[22:00] <Etriaph> Can't build qt5 basket.
[22:01] <Etriaph> I know what the block is, but can't sort out how to add the dependency in QtCreator
[22:02] <Etriaph> He's packaged quazip (which builds) but I can't get the basket project to add it as an include path.
[22:10] <valorie> Etriaph: #kde-devel
[22:10] <valorie> although it's getting late for those europeans 
[22:29] <Etriaph> Yup, if I can't sort it out I'll see around 2am if I can get someone to assist.
[22:40] <valorie> so exciting to hear the possibility of basket rising from the sickbed
[22:40] <valorie> if not grave
[22:46] <sitter> valorie: oh?
[22:50] <valorie> Etriaph is forking the qt5 port and working on it
[22:51] <sitter> kewl
[22:51] <valorie> it's on github these days
[22:51] <Etriaph> Well, the qt5 fork *is* the fork
[22:51] <valorie> right
[22:51] <Etriaph> But the active branch is still KDE4; just wish I could compile this.
[22:51] <Etriaph> Still fiddling though.
[23:05] <sitter> kubotu: order a fez
[23:05]  * kubotu slides a fez down the bar to sitter
[23:06] <valorie> gosh, we need fezzes for Akademy
[23:06] <valorie> I wonder if the Ubuntu Community would buy them for us
[23:06] <sitter> first someone needs to organize me travels
[23:06] <valorie> "project timelord"
[23:07] <valorie> are you flying or coming by train?
[23:07] <sitter> flying, train to spain is like 30000000000000 hours
[23:07] <sitter> actually
[23:07] <sitter> I am not sure I am attending at all
[23:07] <sitter> seems like such a bother
[23:07] <valorie> pfff
[23:08] <valorie> you will come in your blue box, and give a talk with rohan
[23:08] <valorie> otherwise, no fez for you!
[23:09] <sitter> a fez I can do without!
[23:09] <sitter> I'd much rather have a blue fedora
[23:09] <valorie> but we don't want to do without you
[23:10] <valorie> I don't want to do without you
[23:10] <sitter> :(
[23:10] <valorie> I know that Brno was within your realm
[23:10] <valorie> but A Coruna will be an adventure worthy of the work to get there
[23:11]  * valorie is coming all the way from Black Diamond, Washington
[23:11] <valorie> I wish I had puppy-dog eyes........
[23:13]  * ahoneybun is coming from Hollywood, Florida
[23:15] <ahoneybun> valorie: it will take like20 hours for you to get there 
[23:15] <valorie> yep
[23:15] <valorie> I usually have the longest journey since nobody comes from Hawaii
[23:15] <ahoneybun> 15+ I think for me
[23:16] <valorie> but Scarlett has those extra hours on the train
[23:16] <valorie> so she beats me
[23:16] <ahoneybun> I beat all as this is my first time on a plane :-)
[23:16] <sitter> now that microsoft is friends with us someone should hit them up for sponsorship and hosting of akademy in redmond. problem solved
[23:17] <ahoneybun> XD
[23:19] <ahoneybun> "If Microsoft ever does applications for Linux it means I've won." - Linus Torvalds
[23:19] <valorie> unless they paid for all the europeans to fly to Seattle, I doubt that would work
[23:19] <valorie> it will always be in europe since that's where our devels mostly live
[23:19] <valorie> we can do Camp KDE again though
[23:19] <valorie> sometime
[23:19]  * ahoneybun wants to go to Austie
[23:20] <sitter> see. the sad thing about this is I propbably could get a direct flight to SEA but I can't get one to a coruna.....
[23:20] <valorie> huh
[23:20] <valorie> that's odd
[23:21] <ahoneybun> I have 2 2+ hours of layovers lol
[23:21] <valorie> I've not booked tickets yet because we don't have the money in the bank yet, and scarlett needs that
[23:21] <valorie> sgclark: you did send your bank details though, right?
[23:21] <sgclark> yep
[23:22] <sgclark> when I got back i did, so soon I hope
[23:22] <sgclark> did you get yours?
[23:23] <ahoneybun> sitter: can you make the UOS Kubuntu Kickoff?
[23:24] <valorie> not yet, although I've not searched my email yet today
[23:24] <valorie> I sent it thur I think before leaving for Bellingham
[23:24] <sitter> I can do anything \o/ (depending the lazyness at the time anyway)
[23:24] <valorie> btw, how was your train ride home?
[23:24] <sgclark> omg horrible
[23:25] <valorie> ?
[23:25] <valorie> that's no good!
[23:25] <sgclark> got tossed off train onto a bus, then in Portland met tram kicked us off twice due to "police activitiy"
[23:25] <sitter> pleasent train rides surely are only those you are hammered on
[23:26] <valorie> oh dear god
[23:26] <sgclark> finally had my husband come get me lol
[23:26]  * ahoneybun wants a tech job
[23:26] <valorie> damn it
[23:26] <sgclark> in bad part of town no less!
[23:26] <sitter> police activity?
[23:26] <valorie> at least you had Walter for company, right?
[23:26] <sgclark> never found out what the police activity was..
[23:26] <sgclark> not for the Portland part
[23:27] <sitter> how very peculiar
[23:27] <valorie> "war on drugs"
[23:27] <valorie> or some such nonsense
[23:27] <sgclark> the whole tram emptied and masses of befuddled passengers lol
[23:27] <sgclark> twice!
[23:27] <valorie> good grief
[23:28] <valorie> that's public safety for you, right there
[23:28] <sgclark> I know right
[23:28] <valorie> good going Portland cops
[23:28]  * sitter once was stuck on a train for some 5 hours in the middle of the austrian alps on account of a "fire incident" that turned out to be a bit of burning shrubbery near the tracks ^^
[23:29] <sgclark> lol
[23:29] <ahoneybun> is this the US?
[23:29] <sgclark> mine? yes Portland, OR
[23:30] <ahoneybun> sounds about right that it was in the US lol
[23:30] <Etriaph> I know and love many US citizens, but I couldn't live in your borders.
[23:30] <Etriaph> I'm happy in Canada :D
[23:30] <Etriaph> bbiab
[23:31] <valorie> you gotta watch that shrubbery though
[23:31] <valorie> you never know what's hiding in there
[23:32] <sitter> ni!
[23:32]  * valorie demands a new shrubbery!
[23:32] <sitter> xD
[23:32] <valorie> ahhhhhh
[23:32] <valorie> run away!
[23:32]  * sitter can't stop laughing just thinking about that scene
[23:33]  * ahoneybun loves a lot of non-US people as well
[23:34] <sitter> it's very unfortunate I am so bored with life I've got nothing better to do than get slightly drunk on long weekends and then laugh at monty python references
[23:34] <valorie> need a new project, sitter?
[23:34] <sitter> no motivation
[23:35] <valorie> I suggest sitting outside somewhere then, and just let life flow around you
[23:35] <sitter> so many ideas, actually I came on earlier because I wanted to write a testint framework for qapt. then I noticed something was off with kci, so I spent hours proding that into a working state and now I am too drunk for anything useful
[23:35] <ahoneybun> valorie: I got a plug to change my devices in Spain 
[23:35] <sitter> valorie: I quit smoking 8 days ago \o/
[23:35] <valorie> woah!
[23:35] <ahoneybun> \o/
[23:35] <valorie> how is that going for you?
[23:35] <sitter> terrible
[23:36] <valorie> that is rather huge
[23:36] <valorie> massive stress
[23:36] <sitter> either I am raging at someone or I am litterally running around in circles on the balcony :O
[23:36] <valorie> lol
[23:36] <valorie> using a patch or anything to help?
[23:37] <valorie> I could not live with my mother when she quit
[23:37] <sitter> next thing you know I get a visit from some nice men with a straight jacket that my neighbours called xD
[23:37] <valorie> it was so horrible
[23:37] <valorie> rofl
[23:37] <sitter> valorie: cold turkey as it were
[23:37] <valorie> and you were shouting Ni! Ni!
[23:37] <valorie> not helping your case
[23:37] <sitter> xD
[23:37] <valorie> lol
[23:38] <valorie> mmm, cold turkey
[23:38] <valorie> I must be hungry
[23:39] <ahoneybun> valorie: can you make the Plasma 5 show and tell?
[23:39] <sitter> kubotu: order breakfast, at for valorie
[23:39]  * kubotu slides 5 floors of backon and some wurst with bread, a glass of schnaps and a new deck down the bar to valorie.
[23:39]  * ahoneybun needs to add that to the track list
[23:40] <sitter> I wonder what a new deck is
[23:40] <sitter> even UOS has bureaucracy? 
[23:42]  * ahoneybun is thinking of taking off Monday for the UOS Q&A with Mark
[23:44] <valorie> ahoneybun: no, no can do
[23:44] <valorie> no time for that, and no skill
[23:44] <valorie> oooo, schnapps!
[23:44] <valorie> and wurst
[23:44] <valorie> awesome
[23:44] <valorie> it really is dinner time
[23:45] <sitter> that's breakfast!!!
[23:45] <valorie> lol
[23:45] <valorie> I'm almost done crafting Yet Another Email to the CC
[23:45] <valorie> then off to dinner
[23:45] <ahoneybun> no skill?
[23:47] <sitter> oh btw
[23:48] <valorie> for some show and tell, I mean
[23:49] <sitter> ovidiu-florin, ahoneybun: I've been skimming through your prediscussion for the uos show and tell thing.... and I thought that maybe you guys would be interested in a thought we had last akademy. the idea was to put together short did-you-know kind of things about cool but perhaps not immediately awesome things (like krunner) and post them semi regularly on our social media accounts in an affort to give our media presence consistent relevance for 
[23:49] <sitter> people and make them more engaging
[23:50] <sitter> alas, nothing ever happend with that because I am pretty lazy
[23:50] <valorie> what a cool idea
[23:50] <valorie> right, lazy people make awesome CI systems
[23:50] <valorie> and work on weekends
[23:50] <valorie> silly man!
[23:51] <valorie> you do not have to do All The Things
[23:51] <sitter> in particular the notion was to preproduce this stuff and just post it regularly. since these topics stay relevant for quite a while anyway whenever someone has time they can put together a post but it wouldn't get posted like say a month later (or whenver it would feel right to post etc)
[23:51]  * valorie really leaves now
[23:52] <ahoneybun> that is a good idea
[23:54] <ahoneybun> sitter: who controls our social media accounts?
[23:55] <sitter> valorie: that's work-work though for the most part and has no immediate benefit for the user. it only improves and backs up what is already there, it doesn't make anything more awesome. best case scenario a normal person wouldn't know we have a CI thing going
[23:56] <sitter> ahoneybun: variety of people. Riddell posts mostly though
[23:56] <sitter> and its either content from wire.kubuntu or kubuntu.org news itself
[23:58] <ahoneybun> sitter: a small team should do it (small team= 1-2)
[23:58] <sitter> ahoneybun: posting things?
[23:58] <ahoneybun> yea
[23:59] <ahoneybun> I have a Kubuntu Promotion page for Google+
[23:59] <sitter> having a media team would be good ;)