[05:38] <Kilos> morning all
[06:07] <captine> morning
[06:07] <Kilos> hi captine  
[06:10] <captine> hey Kilos 
[06:44] <Kilos> hi Trixar_za  
[06:44] <Kilos> hows things there
[07:20] <Kilos> hi Tonberry  
[07:21] <Tonberry> more
[07:36] <inetpro> .
[07:36]  * Kilos ..
[07:37] <Kilos> aw i forgot
[07:47] <Kilos> i wonder what the . and .. mean actually
[07:57] <Kilos> oh ya how does one manipulate google search thing to find the africa site first when peeps type in ubuntu-africa?
[09:20] <arnaudmez> Hello guys
[09:21] <Kilos> hi arnaudmez  
[09:21] <arnaudmez> hi Kilos
[09:21] <arnaudmez> what's on the desk today
[09:21] <Kilos> what did you break?
[09:21] <arnaudmez> ?
[09:21] <Kilos> lol
[09:22] <arnaudmez> nothing today
[09:22] <Kilos> yay
[09:22] <arnaudmez> and you ? did you break something these days ?
[09:23] <Kilos> no since i went to kubuntu 14.04 on a new 1TB drive nothing breaks anymore
[09:23] <arnaudmez> Cool
[09:24] <Kilos> whats happening about your linux classes
[09:24] <arnaudmez> so you mean Kubuntu is better than the normal Ubuntu + Unity ?
[09:24] <Kilos> oh yes much more stable
[09:25] <arnaudmez> Okay for minux class let's take it off here, it's more private at this stage
[09:25] <Kilos> ok
[09:25] <arnaudmez> are you running plasma 5 on that KUB 14.04
[09:25] <Kilos> no
[09:26] <Kilos> will go to plasma 5 on 16.04
[09:37] <arnaudmez> Why  only on 16.04 ?
[09:37] <Kilos> going from lts to lts means less mobile data used
[09:45] <arnaudmez> Okay I see, you upgrade using distr upgrade in a terminal right
[09:46] <Kilos> no i normally do a clen install but with /home backed up
[09:46] <Kilos> clean
[09:46] <arnaudmez> Okay
[09:47] <arnaudmez> Once in 2008 I did an upgrade from terminal and it's just crsshhh everything hopefully I had backup of y data's
[09:48] <arnaudmez> and to avoid that my solution was to order for every new Ubuntu release with Repo DVD's throught FossCd.co.za which helped me a lot for year
[09:49] <arnaudmez> **years i mean
[09:49] <Kilos> the good thing about having good backups is if the new install doesnt work you can always reintsall the old one, backup , and carry on
[09:50] <Kilos> but then superfly  upgrades everytime
[09:50] <arnaudmez> so did someone here tried ubuntu 15.04 or even kernel 4.0 ?
[09:50] <Kilos> kde is very reliable
[09:51] <Kilos> there are a few yes
[10:06] <arnaudmez> I'm on kernel 4.0 and it's just good 
[10:07] <arnaudmez> first thing they promise get's real "no reboot after critical upgrade"
[10:20] <Kilos> lol
[12:18] <captine> ok.  got a keyboard. now to try install 15.04 gnome edition
[12:18] <Kilos> yay
[12:19] <captine> see u all in a bit.  /home is on a seperate drive so hoping all goes well
[13:03] <captine> so... when u are used to unity, the change to gnome is a little strange... need to learn a bit
[13:06] <Kilos> lol
[13:06] <captine> yip.  lol it is
[13:06] <Kilos> why did you change?
[13:06] <captine> for the fun of it...
[13:06] <captine> i used to use gnome
[13:06] <captine> on other distro's
[13:06] <captine> so thought I would give it a spin
[13:06] <Kilos> gnome2
[13:07] <captine> gnome 3 on crunchbang
[13:07] <captine> some years back
[13:07] <Kilos> ah
[13:07] <Kilos> crunchbang was a pain to me i couldnt get 3g going
[13:08] <Kilos> so trasshed it
[13:08] <captine> yip.  at the time,i couldnt get ubuntu to install on my acer laptop, but crunchbang somehow did
[13:09] <Kilos> wow
[13:10] <captine> now to install all my apps
[13:10] <captine> lol.  this is the fun part
[13:42] <georgelappies> hi all
[13:56] <Kilos> hi georgelappies  
[14:01] <georgelappies> Hi Kilos, how are you doing on this lovely sunny autumn afternoon
[14:01] <Kilos> cold
[14:02] <Kilos> warmer out in the sun but pc not out there
[14:29] <captine> hi georgelappies 
[14:30] <georgelappies> hi captine
[14:42] <Kilos> afternoon superfly  
[14:43] <superfly> afternoon Kilos
[14:43] <captine> hi superfly 
[14:44] <superfly> hey captine
[15:47] <Kilos> hmm...
[16:25] <captine> hmmmm???
[16:25] <Kilos> so quiet
[16:26] <Kilos> Maaz  hmm...
[16:26] <Maaz> hmm... is often used to try make others believe one is actually thinking
[16:26] <magespawn> good evening
[16:26] <Kilos> hiya magespawn  
[16:37] <magespawn> how are things Kilos ?
[16:38] <Kilos> much too quiet magespawn  and there?
[16:38] <Kilos> cold also here
[16:38] <magespawn> not cold here, but quite alround i think
[16:40] <Kilos> oh magespawn  you said with a switch you have to then set ip's right?
[16:40] <Kilos> all i did was from here tick allow others 
[16:40] <magespawn> yes, or have one computer control it
[16:40] <Kilos> oh ok
[16:41] <magespawn> ahh so then you are just sharing the internet connection
[16:41] <Kilos> yessir
[16:41] <Kilos> what else is there to share
[16:41] <magespawn> there are limitations to that
[16:41] <Kilos> oh
[16:41] <magespawn> hard drives, server style programs etc
[16:42] <Kilos> na i dont wanna share this kde with anything else
[16:42] <magespawn> for example you could store all your music on one pc but allow access to it for both
[16:43] <Kilos> no time to listen to music anymore
[16:44] <magespawn> always time for music
[16:44] <Kilos> lol
[16:44] <magespawn> anyway helps me concentrate
[16:44] <Kilos> no man then i wanna sing not concentrate
[16:45] <magespawn> ahhh, well i can't sing
[16:45] <Kilos> lol nor can i but who cares
[16:54] <captine> anyone here used mumble before?  (prob only non-3G users, as voip might be pricey on 3G
[16:55] <Kilos> lol
[16:56] <superfly> captine: a LONG time ago
[16:56] <captine> ah.  i am on the jupiterbroadcasting one, but man, getting my audio right is a pain
[16:57] <superfly> worked fine for me
[17:07] <magespawn> mumble?
[17:07]  * magespawn goes to have a look
[17:21] <captine> lol 
[17:21] <captine> magespawn, it is like a voip tool mainly for games
[17:23] <captine> but is used by some podcasters
[17:24] <magespawn> looks pretty cool, might also be useful for things like conferencing or support
[17:29] <magespawn> only 12 mb too
[17:34] <captine> yip
[17:34] <captine> just need good data.
[17:34] <captine> jitsi is also pretty slick.. would use that if I had my own company.
[17:34] <magespawn> jitsi? you guys keep too many secrets
[17:35] <captine> lol.  it is like google hangouts
[17:35] <captine> but self hosted
[17:35] <captine> still a bit rough.  
[17:35] <captine> what data line do you have at hoime?
[17:35] <captine> 3g or adsl?
[17:38] <magespawn> 3g sometimes
[17:39] <captine> ah.
[17:39] <captine> i hear of all these things on jupiterbroadcasting's shows (Linux action show and Linux Unplugged)
[17:40] <captine> but I use between 150 and 200 gig of data per month between me and my wife, so not feasible on 3g
[17:43] <Kilos> whew
[17:48] <magespawn> i could sell a kidney
[17:49] <magespawn> i hear they fetch quite a bit
[17:49] <Kilos> how much?
[17:55] <magespawn> not sure on the exact amounts
[18:01] <captine> lol
[18:01] <captine> cannot wait for SA to get real compelling data.  even if it was just back to unlimited local data
[18:02] <captine> we could then host local vm's etc and run these sorts of tools
[18:02] <captine> which would enable sme's to grow and grow and grow
[18:02] <captine> ubuntu-gnome channel does not have much action... :)
[18:06] <Kilos> everyone is recovering from may day
[18:07] <captine> ?
[18:07] <Kilos> oh its the 2nd already
[18:19] <stickyboy> Kilos: https://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2015/05/02/meeting-snowden-in-princeton/
[18:19] <stickyboy> GO go go!
[18:19] <Kilos> what is that stickyboy  
[18:19] <stickyboy> captine: I ran an XMPP server for a few months last year.
[18:20] <stickyboy> I was really going to move off Hangouts.
[18:20] <stickyboy> But then nobody would talk to me. heheheeheh
[18:20] <stickyboy> I even wrote an ansible playbook with all my setup / settings: https://github.com/alanorth/ansible_blog/tree/prosody
[18:21] <Kilos> eish all that rtfs
[18:22] <stickyboy> eish
[18:22] <stickyboy> Kilos: previous link was about Edward Snowden and cryptography.
[18:23] <Kilos> im too old to worry about that stuff
[18:24] <Kilos> i just need stuff that works not more to think about
[18:28] <stickyboy> Kilos: Ok, let me just recommend you stop using Facebook, Skype, WhatsApp, Google Hangouts.
[18:28] <stickyboy> IRC is ok though. :P
[18:29] <Kilos> i use irc and pidgin and on rare ocasions just go comment on fb
[18:33] <Kilos> but im sure others went and looked so dont feel bad
[19:02] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:04] <captine> stickyboy, lol.  sorry, just got back from re-settling my daughter
[19:04] <captine> funy one
[19:04] <captine> like using telegram instead of whatsapp.. tough to get others to buy in
[19:45] <superfly> hey captine, I also use Telegram. Almost everyone I know is on Telegram now.
[19:46] <captine> superfly, cool.
[19:46] <captine> I am trying to get friends and family on it
[19:46] <captine> but not going well
[19:47] <superfly> My mom and dad only have WhatsApp-capable phones, but that's a step up from nothing
[19:48] <captine> lol
[19:49] <captine> so superfly, decided to give 15.04 gnome edition a run.  quite enjoying it.  you on the KDE edition, if I recall?
[20:04] <superfly> run Kubuntu at work, but Debian at home
[20:04] <superfly> Plasma 5 is nice, but the breeze theme is a little too much whitespace
[20:07] <magespawn> i have found that i tend to prefer the darker setups and themes, beside i think that the new wwill not run on my steam powered laptop
[20:09] <superfly> there's a dark breeze theme, but it's just not Obsidian Coast
[20:09] <superfly> Obsidian Coast has way more subtle lines and shadows
[20:09] <superfly> much more friendly to the eye
[20:10] <captine> i prefer dark to
[20:10] <captine> but for some reason, my software centre fonts are a similar colour to the background.  driving me nuts.  cannot read a thing in the software centre
[20:11] <superfly> captine: yeah, I have that problem on some websites, where the idiot designers presume everyone has a light/white background
[20:11] <superfly> so they hard-code the text colour to a dark gray... the same gray as my background. thanks a lot, twits. don't you even know your CSS rules?
[20:11] <captine> :)
[20:12] <captine> well.  this is worse as it is in ubuntu-gnome edition
[20:12] <captine> lol
[20:27] <superfly> reasoning with drunkards: worse than reasoning with toddlers
[20:35] <captine> lol
[20:36] <captine> i am keen to put all my dvd's onto my plex media box, but am really not keen to spend days and days ripping them...
[20:37] <captine> first learning how to rip in linux command line, then ripping one at a time... man... sucks
[20:37] <superfly> k3b can do ripping
[20:37] <superfly> handbrake
[20:38] <superfly> handbrake.fr
[20:41] <gremble> o/
[20:41] <magespawn> hi gremble 
[20:42] <gremble> Hey magespawn 
[20:42] <magespawn> and it does it well too
[20:42] <gremble> Hopefully, otherwise it would have to try again
[20:43] <gremble> How are you magespawn?
[20:43] <magespawn> good and you gremble ?
[20:44] <gremble> I am well thank you
[20:46] <superfly> hey gremble
[20:46] <gremble> Hey superfly 
[20:46] <gremble> Doing well?
[20:48] <superfly> not too bad.
[20:48] <superfly> you?
[20:48] <gremble> Not bad either. Trying to work, but my cat wants to eat the ink from my pen
[20:49] <captine> superfly, but that is all gui. no dvd on my main machine... only on my file server
[20:49] <superfly> gremble: mine just uses me as a bed
[20:49] <superfly> captine: ah
[20:50] <superfly> ffmpeg then
[20:50] <captine> yip.  need to look into that
[20:50] <magespawn> that also works well
[20:54] <superfly> captine: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/6585/dvd-ripping-with-ffmpeg
[20:54] <superfly> captine: I recommend the second method
[20:54] <captine> superfly, thanks
[20:54] <captine> looking into it now.
[20:54] <superfly> You're welcome
[20:54] <superfly> ffmpeg is the bomb
[20:54] <superfly> I'm not 100% sure if ffmpeg is still in Ubuntu. You might have to use it's cousin, svconv
[20:55] <superfly> *avconv
[21:00] <captine> yip
[21:00] <captine> i see it is not in 14.04.  apparently back in 15.04
[21:00] <captine> there is some fork of it though
[21:03] <captine> using avconv for now... seems to be doing something
[21:10] <captine> ooo.  just installed macfanctld on my mac mini that i am using... and the fan kicked into overdrive... eish.  been warming the poor machine up all this time
[21:21] <superfly> night everyone
[21:21] <magespawn> night superfly 
[21:22] <gremble> Good night
[21:26] <magespawn> i am also off, good night all
[21:26] <gremble> cheers magespawn