[03:08] <xubuntu16w> i need some help with reloading my network stack programs. i removed a few of them. namely due to the 14.04 bug for nm-applet not showing up after install. im pretty good and will follow along rather quickly, but im not able to reserrect it myself...
[03:08] <xubuntu16w> this is for my 2nd laptop
[03:08] <xubuntu16w> thansk for your help
[03:09] <xubuntu16w> version - 14.04 LTS - amd64 - xfce4 desktop, some gnome is running at login
[03:09] <xubuntu16w> not unity
[03:13] <xubuntu16w> driver = iwlwifi, state: unmanaged, default = no,
[03:16] <xubuntu16w> where can i download network-config
[03:16] <xubuntu16w> i most likley will have to install it with dpkg
[03:16] <xubuntu16w> sighs...
[04:48] <xubuntu315> Wow
[04:48] <xubuntu315> IRC online!
[04:48] <xubuntu315> IRC  on Web!
[04:48] <xubuntu315> IRC on Browser!
[08:14] <xubuntu32w> getting like only a screen after i type startx
[08:18] <brainwash> xubuntu32w: use startxfce4 instead
[09:23] <Alina-malina> hey guys i am upset, in install the xubuntu on my machine, and it is lagging, even browser with youtube laggs as hell, could not even watch a 10 minute trailer :-/ i have an asus delux p4p800 with single core 2 atom processor 2.4 mhz each, and 2 GB RAM, is this machine too old for wonderful xubuntu to run?
[09:29] <Alina-malina> so i need some help, i did a dual boot winxp and xubuntu, i i have ext3 partition with 50 GB space dedicated for xubuntu, so right now i am on winxp, any ideas how i can speedup xubuntu for this machine?
[10:18] <Alina-malina> anyone?
[10:20] <hook> hi! as of today, I can't open files from any network drive (smb/ssh/...) from thunar any more. I also checked the .gvfs directory and made it globally writeable, but it's still not working. gvfs seems to be working, at least its mounted: gvfsd-fuse on /run/user/1000/gvfs type fuse.gvfsd-fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=hook). Is there anything else I could try? Updates are all installed for xubuntu 14.04
[10:20] <brainwash_> Alina-malina: maybe your system is too old/weak to play youtube videos
[10:21] <brainwash_> this is usually a CPU heavy task
[10:22] <Alina-malina> well, on windows xo it works perfect
[10:22] <Alina-malina> i can do multiple stuff etc
[10:23] <brainwash_> test with chrome/ium
[10:23] <Alina-malina> well, it is not only youtube, video files when i play they also lag
[10:24] <brainwash_> disable compositing via settings manager > window manager tweaks > last tab
[10:24] <Alina-malina> hmmm ok let me try this
[10:25] <Alina-malina> it is in xubuntu settings right?
[10:25] <Alina-malina> and not in firefox settings?
[10:26] <brainwash_> xubuntu
[10:27] <Alina-malina> ok brb
[10:30] <hook> does anyone has any ideas for my problem with opening files from network drives?
[10:32] <brainwash_> hook: which error message do you get?
[10:33] <brainwash_> and did you check if any packages related to gvfs were updated recently?
[10:34] <hook> I can't find any error message. it displays all the contents of the share, either it's ssh or smb, but I can't open or copy any file from there. also gvfs-mount smb://nas/downloads gives no error
[10:34] <Alina-Xubuntu> ok back
[10:34] <Alina-Xubuntu> well, i feel a little difference, but still there is some lag
[10:35] <Alina-Xubuntu> but that definitely changed something
[10:37] <Alina-Xubuntu> brainwash_, any other tips?
[10:38] <hook> brainwash_: according to /var/log/dpkg.log and /var/log/dpkg.log.1 the last updates for anything gvfs related were on 2014-04-02 (a month ago). I have restarted my laptop multiple times since then
[10:38] <brainwash_> Alina-Xubuntu: maybe you can install a different driver for your graphics card, or apply some driver tweaks
[10:38] <Alina-Xubuntu> hmmm
[10:38] <Alina-Xubuntu> i did not install any graphic drivers? how to find out what i need?
[10:38] <brainwash_> try a different media player / browser
[10:39] <brainwash_> Alina-Xubuntu: lspci -v
[10:39] <hook> brainwash_: I can't tell since which update it's broken, because I only put my laptop to standby during the night, so it has not been restarted for about two weeks or so, and during this time, I could open files every day.
[10:40] <Alina-Xubuntu> ok it gives me bunch of output :-/
[10:40] <brainwash_> hook: take a look at the session log file ~/.cache/upstart/startxfce4.log
[10:40] <brainwash_> Alina-Xubuntu: upload it
[10:40] <brainwash_> !pastebin
[10:40] <ubottu> For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[10:41] <Alina-Xubuntu> brianwash http://paste.ubuntu.com/10969281/
[10:42] <brainwash_> hook: other than that, try to reproduce the issue with a different user account and/or different file manager
[10:43] <brainwash_> Alina-Xubuntu: it's a Nvidia GeForce4 Ti 4200
[10:43] <Alina-Xubuntu> whati have to do?
[10:43] <hook> brainwash_: I can find some errors regarding gvfs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10969288/
[10:43] <brainwash_> Alina-Xubuntu: the open source driver is already being used. I don't think that you have any other option
[10:44] <brainwash_> Alina-Xubuntu: it's really an ancient graphics card
[10:44] <hook> I'm gonna switch to another user account. brb
[10:44] <brainwash_> Alina-Xubuntu: don't expect any miracles :/
[10:44] <Alina-Xubuntu> yes i know :-/ thats all i got, but winxp works with it very fast :-/ eh i like this xubuntu so much i want to use it
[10:46] <brainwash_> sadly, I don't have any other ideas. you can go ahead and search the internet for optimization tips
[10:47] <Alina-Xubuntu> alright, i will try, though have no idea what to search form but anyways thanks for tweak, i feel its working a little faster then it used to be before
[10:48] <brainwash_> try something like "GeForce4 Ti 4200 ubuntu performance"
[10:48] <brainwash_> good luck :)
[10:48] <Alina-Xubuntu> alright thanks:)
[10:54] <hook> brainwash_: it's not working with a freshly created user account either
[10:59] <brainwash_> hook: check ~/.cache/upstart/dbus.log also
[11:03] <hook> brainwash_: all gvfs related from dbus.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10969384/
[11:04] <hook> also, the folders /run/user/1000/gvfs and ~/.gvfs are all empty
[11:16] <brainwash_> hook: no idea. these error messages should help you at least when searching the web
[11:22] <hook> brainwash_: thanks so far for your help. I'll see what I can find. Have a nice day!
[16:45] <ftv> Hi. I'm having some trouble with suspend with a new install of Xubuntu 15.04 on a Thinkpad T450s. The laptop wakes up but the desktop is unresponsive. I can move the cursor but not much else happens. For instance, I can click on the start menu button at the top left and only a grey box appears. Some of the icons appear when I hover over them. I can switch to TTY and everything works there. Restarting lightdm does not fix the issue.
[16:45] <ftv> Any suggestions for what could be causing this problem?
[17:26] <holstein> ftv: you may be able to check some logs from tty, since, you have access to that.. what GPU driver are you using? i find that can relate to a lot of issues
[17:35] <Traveler> Hello
[17:35] <holstein> o/
[17:36] <Traveler> Who uses xubuntu?
[17:36] <holstein> most in this channel.. this is the #xubuntu official support channel, Traveler .. welcome
[17:37] <ftv> holstein: gpu is Intel integrated graphics with i915 driver
[17:37] <holstein> ftv: are you simply up to date with all upgrades? are you booted into the latest available kernel? have you tried with another kernel, such as, from the 14.04 lts version? do you have any ppa's added?
[17:38] <Traveler> I have some problems with nvidia driver. My screen glitches while scrolling.
[17:39] <holstein> Traveler: i implement "smooth scrolling" and i also try with compositing and without compositing, to see if anything addresses the "glitching".. you also tried the open driver? i find sometimes, its less glitchy, though, arguably less performant..
[17:40] <ftv> everything up to date. no ppa's. running 3.19.0-15
[17:40] <ftv> let me try a different kernel in that case.
[17:42] <Traveler> holstein: It happens when I use every nvidia driver, regardless of the version.
[17:42] <holstein> Traveler: how about the open driver? have you tried it? just the one in the kernel?
[17:42] <Traveler> Yes, I tried
[17:43] <holstein> Traveler: have you implemented "smooth scrolling"? that really took care of my personal issues with it.. please try implementing that in the browser you are using
[17:44] <Traveler> I'll try it
[17:45] <ftv> holstein: sorry for the stupid question. what's the quickest way to downgrade the kernel? i can't see any older kernels in the repo.
[17:46] <holstein> ftv: i dont.. i'll simply load up a live iso, where, i can see if its even addressing my issue or not, without effecting my install
[17:46] <holstein> ftv: there are mainline kernel .deb's one can easily use.. but, this is not a "Fix".. its just one of many things i would be looking at, if i wanted to try and address the issue
[17:50] <ftv> holstein: what logs should I be looking at?
[17:51] <ftv> holstein: and what services could i try restarting? currently my only way to get everything back is to reboot.
[17:51] <holstein> ftv: anything relating to what is problematic.. x logs, gui.. whatever seems to be hung-up..
[17:52] <holstein> i would also just search "model # ubuntu" and see if i found anything relevant.. usually others have the same issues.. and anything relating to main ubuntu should be the same for xubuntu, since xubuntu is ubuntu
[17:52] <holstein> i would be happy to help search forums, etc, if you want to share more information on what hardware you have
[17:55] <ftv> holstein: thank you for your help. i've had a look around already without much success, probably because it's a relatively new model. it's a thinkpad t450s with Intel i7-5600U, integrated graphics, full hd panel. any other specs that might be relevant?
[17:56] <holstein> if its "new", i might look into the most recent kernels possible.. see if a deb for a mainline kernel addresses anything
[17:56] <holstein> ftv: i would look for, and create a bug, if there is none, and just try and get active.. if you have new hardware, you could literally be the only person using that hardware in xubuntu..
[17:57] <holstein> for me, i may go to one of the larger communities.. such as, loading a live iso for the main ubuntu distro, and check there.. try and find *anyone* to confirm the issue..
[17:57] <holstein> also look for bios updates that may or may not address the issue, or make it better or worse
[17:58] <ftv> holstein: i found this bug that looks similar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1447331
[17:58] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1447331 in linux (Ubuntu) "will not resume from suspend " [Medium,Incomplete]
[17:58] <ftv> but it's pretty useless
[18:04] <holstein> ftv: what is useless?
[18:04] <holstein> im not following..
[18:04] <ftv> the bug that i linked to. doesn't contain very much information.
[18:05] <holstein> ftv: make your own, then.. or, add whatever information you want to that bug
[18:06] <holstein> ftv: the key being, confirming it.. replicate it with different live isos if possible, and get another person with that hardware to replicate it
[18:06] <holstein> if it happens with a live iso, its much easier to test for..
[18:06] <holstein> anyways, it'll be up to you, since, as i said, you *could* very well be literally the only person with that hardware trying to run xubuntu on it.. thats a very realistic possibility
[18:44] <d-rock> Hi all, just installed Xubuntu 15.04 and tried to install fglrx-updates -- however, after reboot the system freezes on xubuntu splash screen, anyone else experienced the same?
[22:32] <ilhami> hey
[22:32] <ilhami> just wanted to say that xubuntu is nice.
[22:33] <knome> hello, and nice to hear. enjoy!
[22:45] <ilhami> one of the more beautiful UIs I have seen in my life. :)
[22:45] <knome> thanks for the compliments
[22:45] <ilhami> and lightweight at the same time, right? :P