[00:42] <elky> apt always manages to confuse me whereas apt-get doesn't
[00:42]  * elky shrugs
[00:45] <Unit193> Try 'apt search firefox' vs 'apt-cache search firefox' big difference and not for the better.  Also, apt isn't well documented.  How does one use apt list?  Read the source.  I do use full-upgrade, sure. :D
[00:49] <elky> at least one of those things is fixable
[00:50] <Unit193> Yep, I figure it's still early, so docs will come.  And, apt tells you its interface isn't finished yet, so that may change.  I'm simply speaking right now.
[02:14] <elky> today in daftykins doesn't realise how hostile he is
[03:28] <phunyguy> yeah then he plays the volunteer card
[03:28] <phunyguy> when you say something baout it.
[03:28] <phunyguy> about*
 Ubuntu is not user friendly if I have to remember commands like that
[11:32] <bazhang> why has he used for 7 or more years then
[16:30] <c0mrade> Hello.
[16:30] <c0mrade> I think I am banned from #ubuntu, can you guys get me back there please?
[17:50] <c0mrade> Hello.
[17:50] <c0mrade> I was banned from #ubuntu can someone get me back there please?
[18:24] <c0mrade> :P
[18:24] <c0mrade> Any help?
[19:00] <ikonia> c0mrade: hello
[19:01] <c0mrade> ikonia: Hi, how are you doing?
[19:01] <ikonia> fine thanks
[19:01] <ikonia> so what's up ?
[19:01] <ikonia> you've been banned in #ubuntu ?
[19:01] <c0mrade> I wish to join #ubuntu again but I am banned from a long time ago from there.
[19:01] <ikonia> is that righht ?
[19:01] <c0mrade> Yeah.
[19:01] <ikonia> why where you banned ?
[19:02] <c0mrade> I got involved in Ubuntu related stuff lately and I might need some support from the community/IRC channel.
[19:02] <c0mrade> I believe it was a long time ago maybe like more than a year ago, but I think I got banned for saying offtopic stuff.
[19:02] <ikonia> one moment please
[19:03] <c0mrade> Like talking about the time travel machines, black market organ trading, cryoginecs and life expanding, quantum physics etc...
[19:03] <ikonia> it looks like you've got quite a history
[19:04] <ikonia> and you've been a problem since 2010 - through to 2014
[19:04] <c0mrade> I think it was more than a year.
[19:04] <c0mrade> But I am not sure.
[19:04] <ikonia> no, it was Oct2014 your last visit
[19:04] <c0mrade> But anyway I've been using IRC since 1996 but knew bout freenode like in 2008.
[19:05] <ikonia> serious question, what's going on ? you've been a problem in the ubuntu channels since 2010
[19:05] <ikonia> why have you been a problem for 4 years ?
[19:05] <c0mrade> I used to join and say offtopic stuff and then part the channel.
[19:05] <c0mrade> Nothing much.
[19:05] <c0mrade> I used to tease the channel operators.
[19:05] <ikonia> what's stopped you just using the channel in acceptable ways ?
[19:05] <ikonia> why ?
[19:05] <ikonia> then  why hae you been a problem for so long
[19:06] <c0mrade> I didn't go every single day there.
[19:06] <c0mrade> And do that for four years straight.
[19:06] <c0mrade> I am not sick in the brains... LOL.
[19:06] <c0mrade> I mean I used to get maybe one a week sometimes once a month and sometimes four days straight.
[19:07] <ikonia> yes, but why ?
[19:07] <ikonia> you knew it was wwrong, you knew it distruted the channel and wasted peoples time, yet you kept doing it
[19:07] <ikonia> why ?
[19:08] <ikonia> actually it doesn't matter
[19:08] <ikonia> I'm not comfortable letting you back in the channel, you show yourself to be aware of causing a problem on purpose,
[19:08] <ikonia> so I don't see a reason to give you yet "another" chance
[19:08] <ikonia> sorry
[19:09] <c0mrade> No I am just confessing and telling you the truth.
[19:09] <ikonia> yes,, I know
[19:10] <c0mrade> Lately I got involved in projects that need extensive Ubuntu knowledge and now I feel that I need to get to the channel....
[19:10] <ikonia> I don't feel you do
[19:10] <c0mrade> You don't feel I do what?
[19:10] <ikonia> and I feel you should have thought about that before wasting peoples time for 4 years
[19:10] <ikonia> so I think we should cut it there,
[19:11] <c0mrade> You think it's for 4 years straight?
[19:11] <ikonia> good luck with your projects, I hope it helps you find a new way to contribute to the IRC communities with a bit less trouble
[19:11] <ikonia> please /part the channel,
[19:12] <c0mrade> So no chance right?
[19:12] <ikonia> sorry
[19:12] <ikonia> I don't see why
[19:13] <c0mrade> I am sorry for what I did and it won't happen again.
[19:13] <c0mrade> I appologize.
[19:14] <ikonia> appreciate that, thank you
[19:15] <c0mrade> Can I access #ubuntu again please?
[19:16] <chu> May I just pipe in and recommend you join #ubuntu-offtopic for a while, *if* you are seen as a contributing member (and honour your promise) maybe some action will be taken in regards to #ubuntu
[19:16] <c0mrade> Why are you guys making it hard for me....
[19:16] <ikonia> you made it hard for yourself
[19:16] <c0mrade> I am so lazy to use a proxy and change my nickname.
[19:16] <chu> It may be the only way to verify that you actually intend on holding strong to your promise (I'm sure you can understand how often we are told)
[19:16] <ikonia> c0mrade: nice suggestion to ban evadae
[19:17] <ikonia> shows you can really respect the rules
[19:17] <ikonia> I think we are done
[19:17] <chu> Ouch, well that's the one way to guarantee you're not coming back