[05:25] <Kilos> morning all
[07:35] <captine> morning
[07:36] <Kilos> hi captine  you got lotsa data
[07:36] <Kilos> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqKbph5vI84&feature=youtu.be
[07:42] <Kilos> morning superfly  
[07:47] <captine> Kilos, you think she is really singing? sitting like that and having such control... will let my wife watch.  she studied music and singing and was a music teacher
[07:49] <Kilos> thats my daughter man , i know its her singing
[07:49] <captine> f:)
[07:49] <captine> i was hoping it was someone you knew
[07:49] <captine> just messing with u
[07:49] <Kilos> lol
[07:49] <captine> nice effects
[07:49] <captine> on the voice
[07:50] <Kilos> you must go see her xfactor audition with i will always love you
[07:50] <Kilos> 2 or 3 years back now
[07:51] <captine> send link
[07:51] <Kilos> sec
[07:52] <Kilos> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wczRExQRttk
[07:57] <captine> so she lives in Aus?
[07:57] <Kilos> yeah
[07:57] <Kilos> tell me what your wife thinks
[07:57] <captine> ok
[07:58] <captine> hope it was recorded on Linux ;)
[07:58] <Kilos> no all her recording and art things are win 
[07:59] <Kilos> but she has ubuntu on her old pc
[07:59] <captine> even sounds australian... eish.  wheres the ja bru accent...
[07:59] <Kilos> lol
[07:59] <Kilos> she grew up there
[07:59] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[08:00] <Kilos> ive only ever seen her on my pc
[08:00] <captine> hectic
[08:00] <Kilos> yeah
[08:00] <Kilos> magespawn  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wczRExQRttk
[08:01] <Kilos> many megs
[08:01] <Kilos> taras latest recording
[08:02] <magespawn> hi all
[08:03] <magespawn> i'll save the link then
[08:03] <captine> hi magespawn 
[08:03] <captine> Kilos, does she make a living through youtube publishing?
[08:03] <captine> or more a hobby?
[08:04] <Kilos> she has always wanted a singing carrear hence the xfactor audition now she does her own thing
[08:04] <Kilos> carear
[08:05] <Kilos> she does art work for a living
[08:05] <Kilos> that funny stuff, manga or something
[08:06] <Kilos> http://kaiverta.deviantart.com/
[08:07] <captine> wow.  so why would my volume be super soft in youtube but loud on everything else
[08:07] <captine> very strange
[08:07] <Kilos> lol
[08:08] <captine> fixed
[08:08] <captine> ignore me
[08:11] <captine> chat later.  need to sleep. got flu
[08:11] <Kilos> eish
[08:12] <Kilos> rest well
[08:41] <magespawn> some pretty cool art there
[08:45] <Kilos> yeah
[09:31] <Kilos> im gonna have no power monday and tuesday from 0800 to 1800
[09:31] <Kilos> sigh
[09:32] <MaNI> ouch
[09:32] <MaNI> 'maintenance'?
[09:32] <Kilos> yeah very ouch
[09:33] <Kilos> yeah tswane power peeps working
[09:42] <magespawn> that is a long time
[09:43] <magespawn> 20:00 hours all together
[09:43] <magespawn> hectic
[09:45] <Kilos> eish
[09:45] <Kilos> spose ill have to get to fencing ive been putting off
[10:05] <magespawn> mmmm, might be a plan
[10:08] <Kilos> nono barbed wire and razor wire fencing not good for hands
[10:08] <magespawn> unless it is electric fencing
[10:09] <Kilos> electric fencing i had lotsa practise with, fenced 2500 hectare farm with it
[10:09] <Kilos> no bards or razor pieces
[10:09] <Kilos> barbs
[10:11] <Kilos> electric fences only keep idiots out, anyone with a brain works out quick how to short it out
[10:12] <Kilos> fences only keep honest peeps honest
[10:32] <georgelappies> hi all
[10:32] <Kilos> hi georgelappies  
[11:20] <Kilos> hi gremble  
[11:24] <gremble> Good afternoon Kilos 
[11:48] <Kilos> hi Vince-0  
[11:58] <Vince-0> Hi
[14:12] <Kilos> hmm...
[15:17] <inetpro> good morning Kilos
[15:17] <inetpro> hi everyone else
[15:18] <Kilos> lol hi inetpro  did you sleep all day?
[15:18] <inetpro> what have I missed?
[15:18] <Kilos> nothing really
[15:18] <inetpro> hmm... you getting old?
[15:18] <Kilos> only taras next song
[15:18] <Kilos> why?
[15:18] <inetpro> can't even talk to yourself any more
[15:19] <Kilos> na im deaf to me
[15:19] <inetpro> ai!
[15:19] <Kilos> lol
[15:19] <Kilos> you all well?
[15:20] <Kilos> you better say what you want to say because no power here between 0800 and 1800 for 2 days
[15:21] <inetpro> what~?
[15:22] <Kilos> pta power peeps say they gonna be working
[15:22] <inetpro> send them to the moon
[15:22] <Kilos> haha
[15:22] <Kilos> you guys have to greet
[15:23] <Kilos> i used youtube-dl for the first time today
[15:23] <inetpro> where do they come from?
[15:23] <inetpro> can they not isolate the area they work on and then only do a short switch over?
[15:24] <Kilos> they are supposedly replacing our over head with underground
[15:25] <Kilos> go see tara man
[15:25] <inetpro> so they take the same lines from the top and put them below?
[15:25] <Kilos> i dunno
[15:25] <inetpro> no, I bet you they don't
[15:26] <inetpro> they put different lines below
[15:26] <Kilos> most likely proper underground stuff
[15:26] <inetpro> exactly, at least we hope so
[15:26] <Kilos> who knows nowadays
[15:26] <inetpro> so, I rest my case
[15:28] <inetpro> your power should be down for less than 5 minutes if they do a proper job
[15:28] <Kilos> hahaha
[15:28] <Kilos> what were you doing with qa yesterday morning
[15:29] <inetpro> a whole 2 days of downtime is not acceptable, end of story!
[15:29] <Kilos> lol
[15:36]  * inetpro started the May report now
[15:36] <inetpro> Kilos: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/TeamReports/15/May
[15:37] <Kilos>  17:28] <Kilos> what were you doing with qa yesterday morning
[15:38] <Kilos> i dont know what we are going to do this month
[15:38] <inetpro> Kilos: doing the monthly report is an easy job
[15:38] <Kilos> did you make it readable and understandable for me
[15:39] <inetpro> what do you not understand?
[15:40] <Kilos> well when you first open it there are all those other things to check that show in case there is already one like it or something
[15:40] <Kilos> give link and ill look and say
[15:40] <inetpro> Kilos: look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TeamReports/April2015
[15:41] <inetpro> click edit and read the code, but PLEASE do not modify and save 
[15:41] <Kilos> ok
[15:42] <Kilos> then scroll down to us right?
[15:43] <inetpro> you see how it just says include XYZ?
[15:43] <Kilos> no
[15:43] <inetpro> ai!
[15:44] <Kilos> you mean Include(ZATeam/TeamReports/15/April)
[15:44] <inetpro> yes
[15:44] <Kilos> then say so man
[15:44] <Kilos> i hunt for include XYZ
[15:44] <captine> inetpro, power down less than 5 minutes??? why waste an opportunity to "load shed" through upgrading lines as apposed to running out of power... 20 hours sounds right
[15:44] <captine> :)
[15:45] <inetpro> just do some tiny bit of thinking oom Kilos
[15:45] <inetpro> captine: ai!
[15:45] <inetpro> Kilos: so obviously the main report reads our page at where?
[15:45] <Kilos> its the thinking thats wearing me out
[15:46] <Kilos> ok i got that now, so what do we put in there
[15:46] <captine> just heard my avr kick... eish.  poor quality power will be the death of my PC's
[15:46] <inetpro> no look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/TeamReports/15/April
[15:46] <inetpro> Kilos: s/no/now
[15:46] <captine> anybody know of companies getting rid of some old 1U, 2U, 4U servers?
[15:46] <captine> want to play with openstack on dedicated hardware
[15:47] <inetpro> captine: I also want
[15:47] <Kilos> i see the last one yes
[15:47] <captine> my company has 2, but they are taking long to image the hard drives and convert the drives to VM's... so the servers just sit
[15:47] <inetpro> Kilos: so how difficult can it be to edit that?
[15:48] <gremble> captine: What is a 1-4U server? U is for Unit?
[15:48] <inetpro> Kilos: that is all the info that is needed for the main report
[15:48] <Kilos> oh ya ok ill try next one
[15:48] <captine> it is do do with the thicknes
[15:48] <inetpro> Kilos: ok, next step
[15:48] <captine> 1U chassis vs 4U etc
[15:48] <Kilos> ai!
[15:49] <gremble> Ah Now I understand captine 
[15:49] <gremble> :P
[15:49] <captine> gremble, basically how much space in a rack it takes
[15:49] <captine> http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/num/1u.htm
[15:49] <gremble> I have a 1U server under my bed
[15:49] <gremble> :P
[15:49] <captine> cool.
[15:49] <inetpro> Kilos: obviously we want our own bigger report to make sense, don't we?
[15:49] <gremble> Haven't had time to play with it yet though
[15:49] <captine> that must keep you up at night
[15:49] <inetpro> Kilos: now look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/TeamReports
[15:49] <gremble> Its off
[15:49] <captine> they normally quite noisy (the 1 U's)
[15:50] <Kilos> yes?
[15:50] <captine> I would love a supermicro Atom based 1U to run PF Sense on, and then a 4U for storage
[15:50] <Kilos> thats already three links opened
[15:50] <captine> gremble, what you planning to do with it?  
[15:50] <inetpro> Kilos: keep in mind, we do this to achieve the end result
[15:51] <gremble> captine: I have no idea. A friend bought it cheap and didn't know what to do with it, so he lent it to me to play with.
[15:51] <inetpro> Kilos: so I started at the end result and put your gears in reverse
[15:51] <captine> cool.
[15:51] <Kilos> oh
[15:51] <Kilos> you think im backwards
[15:51] <captine> inetpro, who is chairing the next meeting? thought something was going to the mailing list, but haven't seen anything yet
[15:51] <inetpro> :-)
[15:52] <Kilos> he is
[15:52] <inetpro> captine: hmm... we still need to decide
[15:52] <gremble> captine: Think I may use it to do practise some sysadmin things. I would like to do some LPI certifications some time
[15:52] <Kilos> inetpro  the neology will do the following one if you teach him nicely
[15:55] <inetpro> Kilos: who is the neology?
[15:55] <Kilos> the neology man
[15:55] <inetpro> Kilos: was it not captine who also wanted to have a go?
[15:55] <Kilos> man my head is sore read between the words
[15:55] <Kilos> ya him too
[15:56] <inetpro> captine: I suggest we arrange a time to go through the motions with anyone who wants to learn to do it in another channel
[15:57] <inetpro> before we decide
[15:57] <Kilos> use my channel
[15:57] <Kilos> i wanna see
[15:57] <inetpro> Kilos: QA is not quite ready for it
[15:57] <Kilos> well the readiness relies on you
[15:58] <inetpro> though I can easily fake it to look ready
[15:58] <Kilos> lol
[15:58] <Kilos> what isnt ready?
[15:58]  * inetpro still needs to work on a website
[15:58] <Kilos> for?
[15:58] <inetpro> actually still doing some thinking in the back of my mind
[15:59] <inetpro> not sure whether I want this for the long run
[15:59] <Kilos> what site?
[15:59] <inetpro> when the meeting is done the meetings need to be accesible 
[15:59] <inetpro> you access them on a website
[16:00] <inetpro> the meeting logs
[16:00] <Kilos> oh to dend the minutes etc to where maaz does
[16:00] <Kilos> send
[16:00] <inetpro> the minutes are logged by ibid
[16:01] <Kilos> so you need to link qa to the right place for reports
[16:01] <inetpro> all that is required is to configure the website to see them
[16:01] <Kilos> your ec2 site?
[16:02] <inetpro> Kilos: obviously QA is running on a free instance of EC2 right now
[16:02] <inetpro> Kilos: but I have not set up the web server just yet
[16:03] <Kilos> sjoe
[16:03] <inetpro> setting it up is peanuts, just requires a few minutes
[16:03] <Kilos> oh
[16:04] <superfly> Long day tomorrow 
[16:04] <inetpro> the address though is something that requires a bit of thinking
[16:04] <Kilos> eish whats happening superfly  
[16:05] <superfly> Driving for 4 hours with 3 kids 
[16:05] <Kilos> lol
[16:05] <inetpro> yay! superfly is on holiday?
[16:05] <Kilos> holiday?
[16:06] <Kilos> go safe superfly  and enjoy every minute
[16:07] <Kilos> teach them to identify cars
[16:09] <inetpro> Kilos: that might help for half an hour or so :-)
[16:09] <gremble> inetpro: Are those free instances of EC2 nice? My mother is currently out of a job and I want to see if I can help her get somewhat of a "webpresence" for marketing purposes
[16:10] <inetpro> gremble: a year goes past very quickly
[16:10] <inetpro> so whatever you do, you need to think ahead
[16:10] <gremble> Yes. The idea is to use something like that and see if it works
[16:11]  * inetpro just received his first invoice
[16:11] <Kilos> oh my for a free thing?
[16:11] <inetpro> scary to see a message with subject: Amazon Web Services Invoice Available [Invoice ID: ###]
[16:12] <Kilos> ai!
[16:12] <Kilos> how much?
[16:12] <inetpro> fortunately, Total for this invoice $0.00
[16:12] <Kilos> yay
[16:13] <gremble> inetpro: you are just running EC2?
[16:13] <inetpro> gremble: yep
[16:14] <gremble> I am looking at their pricing structure and it's nice and confusing like a pricing structure should be
[16:14] <captine> once needing to pay, I think DigitalOcean is a good option.  I have run a droplet there for 3 years now
[16:14] <captine> you can get 2 months free using a linux unplugged promo code
[16:14] <inetpro> all the many options are intimidating for sure
[16:14] <gremble> Hmm.. I Have $100 at DO, I think
[16:14] <Kilos> speak to jacques tomorrow he is using a paid one
[16:15] <captine> gremble, $100... nice
[16:15] <captine> many months
[16:15] <gremble> But I need a credit card to redeem it
[16:15] <gremble> :/
[16:15] <captine> how did you get $100
[16:15] <gremble> GitHub education pack
[16:15] <captine> interesting
[16:16] <captine> i really like Digital Ocean.  Very simple to get up
[16:16] <captine> heading to help with bath time.
[16:16] <captine> brb
[16:16] <captine> later
[16:19] <superfly> I use Linode
[16:19] <superfly> their support is amazing
[16:19]  * inetpro even installed the AWS console on Android
[16:19] <superfly> hrm I should do that
[16:19] <magespawn> now that is an idea
[16:19] <inetpro> can switch the server off and on via mobile
[16:20] <inetpro> sadly Kilos won't like me if I do that now
[16:20]  * magespawn proceeds to suit word to deed
[16:20] <Kilos> why?
[16:20] <inetpro> Kilos: QA qill die
[16:20] <inetpro> will*
[16:20] <Kilos> i just need to tell qa to /j
[16:20] <Kilos> oh no join
[16:21] <Kilos> oh ya you must make her auto restart
[16:21] <inetpro> Kilos: haha, what's the point if he goes sleeping
[16:21] <Kilos> run a script to make him auto boot
[16:21] <Kilos> with init
[16:22] <inetpro> Kilos: and if you wake up early and want to talk to him?
[16:22] <Kilos> like the one im running to make nm start
[16:22] <Kilos> him is a her
[16:22] <inetpro> hmm... 
[16:23] <inetpro> oh ya
[16:23] <Kilos> ill just ping you and you can pong 10 hours later as ususal
[16:23] <inetpro> she needs to be awake 24hours man
[16:23] <magespawn> there is enough confusion over that in this country already\
[16:23] <Kilos> lol
[16:24] <Kilos> so inetpro  if you turn server off without reason you the naughty one not me
[16:24] <Kilos> i have maaz and spotty as well remember
[16:24] <Kilos> cowboys dont cry
[16:40] <Kilos> wb georgelappies  
[16:40] <georgelappies> thanks Kilos
[16:44] <Kilos> rofl
[17:00] <captine> superfly, linode does look good.  just more pricey if I recall
[17:01] <superfly> Not sure if DO was around when I signed up for Linode.
[17:02] <captine> they pretty new.  i heard of htem in 2013
[17:02] <captine> 2012
[17:16] <Kilos> inetpro  when may i become just a greeter bot again?
[17:17] <inetpro> Kilos: are you not just the greeter bot?
[17:17] <Kilos> nono you have added lots
[17:17] <inetpro> Kilos: what did I add for you?
[17:17] <Kilos> membership
[17:18] <Kilos> africa site and irc channel
[17:18] <inetpro> uh, serious!?
[17:18] <Kilos> ya
[17:18] <Kilos> and
[17:18] <Kilos> and
[17:18]  * inetpro don't remember forcing anyone to do anything
[17:19] <Kilos> no youre a diplomat
[17:19] <inetpro> what is a diplomat?
[17:19] <Kilos> Maaz  diplomat
[17:19] <Maaz> A diplomat is a person who can tell others to go to hell in such a nice way that they look forward to the trip
[17:19] <inetpro> ai!
[17:19] <gremble> :p
[17:19] <Kilos> haha
[17:20]  * inetpro wants to be a diplomat
[17:20] <Kilos> you are
[17:20] <Kilos> a very good one too
[17:21] <inetpro> Kilos: well you don't seem to look forward to the trip yet
[17:21] <Kilos> ai!
[17:22] <Kilos> that is an example of what a good diplomat can achive
[17:22] <inetpro> oh
[17:24] <inetpro> superfly: how long will you be gone?
[17:35] <captine> 19:35 and feeling VERY tired... eish.. getting old
[17:35] <Kilos> lol
[17:40] <inetpro> oh Kilos, so you are enjoying the extra workload?
[17:40] <Kilos> nonono
[17:40] <inetpro> yesyes
[17:40] <Kilos> i feel like captine  all the time
[17:41] <Kilos> but its exciting too
[17:43] <inetpro> Kilos: at least you saddled up your own horse
[17:43] <Kilos> lol
[17:44] <inetpro> enjoy the ride!
[17:44] <Kilos> over the last five years or so we have had some fun times here
[17:44] <Kilos> still the best buntu irc channel out there for noobs
[17:53] <captine> how is this for a cool project.  very inline with the documentation project going on.
[17:53] <captine> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1381437927/endless-computers
[18:02] <Kilos> wow
[18:08] <Kilos> point them to mybroadband
[18:08] <Kilos> that should bring in some advertising
[18:19] <superfly> inetpro: just a few days, took this week off from work.
[18:21] <inetpro> superfly: good idea, hope you get a bit of rest and enjoy it with the family
[18:22] <inetpro> I know driving with small kids has it's challenges and can be very tiring, but it's all part of the fun
[18:23] <inetpro> its challenges*
[18:23]  * inetpro keeps mixing up it's vs its
[18:24] <inetpro> amongst others
[18:24] <Kilos> it's=it is
[18:24] <inetpro> Kilos: I know
[18:24] <Kilos> maybe
[18:24] <Kilos> the other one looks good too
[18:25] <inetpro> its just my fingers don't seem to know quick enough al the time
[18:25] <Kilos> lolk
[18:25] <Kilos> lol
[18:25] <inetpro> always somebody/something else's fault
[18:26] <Kilos> total diplomat
[18:26] <inetpro> ai!
[18:36]  * Kilos sniggers
[18:39] <inetpro> why?
[18:39] <Kilos> because i can
[18:44]  * inetpro looks around
[18:45]  * Kilos hides
[18:45] <inetpro> where is every body?
[18:45] <Kilos> i dont know actually
[18:45] <Kilos> resting for monday
[18:46] <inetpro> ai!
[18:47] <captine> must be resting
[18:47] <captine> been a long weekend of business.. :)
[18:49] <captine> night all
[18:49] <Kilos> night captine  
[18:49] <Kilos> sleep ight
[18:49] <Kilos> tight too
[18:49] <captine> i'll try
[18:51] <inetpro> good night captine
[19:35] <magespawn> nhjhf'[
[19:35] <magespawn> lol
[19:35]  * magespawn is still lurking
[19:36] <Kilos> lol hi magespawn  
[19:36] <gremble> that was quite the gurgle
[19:36] <Kilos> what language was that
[19:36] <magespawn> keyboard mash
[19:36] <magespawn> like they do when hacking in the movies
[19:36] <Kilos> even python doesnt look that heavy
[19:37] <magespawn> nah i just code straight in the machine language
[19:38] <magespawn> have you seen this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ifttt.dobutton&hl=en%2F%3Futm_source%3Dnewsletter28
[19:39] <gremble> ++++++++[>++++[>++>+++>+++>+<<<<<-]>+>+>->>+[<]<-]>>.>---.+++++++..+++.>>.<-.<.+++.------.--------.>>+.>++
[19:39] <gremble> I can't believe I just did that
[19:39] <gremble> Anyway, that prints out Hello, World!
[19:39] <gremble> In brainfuck
[19:39] <gremble> (it is a programming language)
[19:39] <gremble> obviously
[19:40] <magespawn> okay then
[19:40] <gremble> I missed a . at the end
[19:40] <gremble> :(
[19:41] <magespawn> ahh yes, saw that straight away, changes the message completly
[19:41] <gremble> I am sorry that I disappointed you so magespawn 
[19:41] <gremble> <3
[19:42] <magespawn> ;)
[19:42] <gremble> I can't get this FPGA to talk to the computer
[19:42] <gremble> >.>
[19:46] <magespawn> what does the the FPGA do? or what are you trying to get it to do?
[19:47] <gremble> I am trying to get it or the computer to show me that they are talking to one another
[19:47] <gremble> So that I can learn how to program the damned thing
[19:47] <gremble> :P
[19:49] <Kilos> what is a FPGA
[19:50] <magespawn> Field Programmable Gate Array
[19:50] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:51] <gremble> It is a hardware device that you program to do specific tasks
[19:51] <gremble> For example signal processing
[19:51] <Kilos> sjoe some more
[19:54] <magespawn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field-programmable_gate_array
[20:00] <Kilos> serious things that
[20:00] <Kilos> like programming bios chips
[20:02] <Kilos> inetpro  what are you doing?
[20:02] <inetpro> Kilos: I can ask you the same question
[20:02] <Kilos> its bed time
[20:02] <Kilos> you need to be greeter bot tomorrow
[20:03] <Kilos> when you ask me i tell you dammit
[20:03] <Kilos> but ill remember that
[20:03] <Kilos> jou beurt is jou beurt
[20:03]  * inetpro is busy
[20:04] <Kilos> even when you sleep you are busy
[20:04] <inetpro> of course
[20:04] <Kilos> bust doesnt float the boat anymore
[20:04] <inetpro> ai!
[20:04] <Kilos> details
[20:05] <inetpro> Kilos: it's magespawn's fault
[20:05] <Kilos> rofl
[20:05] <Kilos> ya he is too cool to slum with us on my channel
[20:12] <Kilos> dont go to bed too late inetpro  magespawn  superfly  
[20:12] <Kilos> sleep tight all
[20:12] <inetpro> good night oom
[20:13] <Kilos> see you when power returns
[20:13] <Kilos> drive safe superfly  and keep in touch please
[20:14] <magespawn> what's my fault now?
[20:36] <inetpro> magespawn: you keeping me busy :-)
[20:38] <inetpro> lots and lots of reading to do with setting up and managing a ec2 server properly
[20:39] <magespawn> ahh right
[20:39] <magespawn> i just wing it myself, and see what goes wrong, then start again
[20:48] <magespawn> isn't that the best thing about ec2, wipe the slate and start again
[20:52] <inetpro> magespawn: not if you have Kilos breathing down you neck with services that require 100% uptime
[20:54] <magespawn> no such thing, but restoring an image should be near instance
[20:54] <magespawn> instant
[20:55] <inetpro> yikes, I should try that as well
[20:55] <magespawn> maybe do the tinkering while he is asleep
[20:56] <inetpro> haha... I need sleep as well :-)
[20:56] <magespawn> or during the electricty repairs/loadshedding
[20:57] <inetpro> magespawn: anyway, been fun so far and still so much to do
[20:57] <magespawn> yes learning is fun, i like it too
[20:57] <magespawn> just so much and so little time
[20:58] <inetpro> 1st month down the drain already
[20:58] <magespawn> yup only 11 more
[20:59] <inetpro> hopefully in a month or three we will know whether it's worth paying for or not
[21:00] <inetpro> and then the real challenge will be to make it pay for itself :-)
[21:00] <magespawn> would we pay for it collectively as ubuntu-za?
[21:00] <inetpro> it is an idea that I am toying with
[21:01] <inetpro> but let's not jump the gun
[21:02] <inetpro> at the moment not high on my agenda
[21:03] <magespawn> right, we could then also use it for other projects as long as the funding was there
[21:03] <magespawn> maybe something like an online lug
[21:03] <inetpro> money can complicate many things
[21:04] <magespawn> as always
[21:04] <inetpro> I'd like to keep things simple for as long as possible
[21:04] <magespawn> maybe a subscription model
[21:05] <magespawn> yes, does make it manageable
[21:05] <magespawn> oops going flat
[21:05] <magespawn> let me plug in
[21:09] <inetpro> time has run out for me... really need to go sleep now
[21:09] <magespawn> sleep well
[21:09] <magespawn> almost time for me too
[21:09] <inetpro> good night
[21:14] <magespawn> good night all