[00:00] <tzanolo> nano known_hosts
[00:00] <tzanolo> and delete de line from my machine
[00:01] <Free99> tzanolo, yep
[00:02] <Free99> windows changes its keys every once in a while seemingly at random.. which wouldn't be a big deal but xfreerdp seems to fail without telling remmina it failed to connect
[00:02] <tzanolo> ok, it works verry well!
[00:02] <tzanolo> thanks
[00:03] <tzanolo> Free99, how can you send a message to my, with my name on it, and then when it appears here, a splash apperas to me?
[00:04] <Free99> tzanolo, because I'm inside your computer! oooooOOOOOoooo!!! Just kidding.. your IRC client recognizes when someone says your name
[00:04] <tzanolo> let me try, when I type Free99 irc recongizes it and splashes to you and plays an audio?
[00:05] <tzanolo> Tzanolo teste
[00:06] <tzanolo> tzanolo teste4
[00:06] <Free99> yes
[00:06] <Free99> not sure it'll work for yourself
[00:06]  * Free99 is cool like Mr. Pickles
[00:07] <tzanolo> Free99, to myself doesnt
[00:07] <tzanolo> Free99, why does I need to use paste.ubuntu.com ???
[00:08] <Free99> dunno... policy of this place I think
[00:25] <paffy> Does anyone know of a GUI app to manage desktop entries? (those .desktop files)
[00:25] <antivirtel> ah thanks daftykins, but it is still writing (3 mins so far)
[00:26] <daftykins> antivirtel: cheap slow flash drive?
[00:28] <antivirtel> nope daftykins, it is Kingston DT 101, and it is just finished...(1,2 GB) copied, 144,148 s, 8,0 MB/s - it is just USB 2
[00:28] <antivirtel> but I've already returned a same one before of this, since it was buggy
[00:28] <antivirtel> and stopped working at all...
[00:29] <antivirtel> isn't here a tool like SMART, which will check its health?
[00:29] <daftykins> antivirtel: flash drives don't support SMART and no there's nothing like it
[00:29] <daftykins> make sure you picked sdX and not sdX1 etc.
[00:29] <antivirtel> yeah, it is ok
[00:30] <daftykins> assuming your download wasn't corrupt it should work just fine
[00:30] <antivirtel> ahh, booting now, thanks!!!
[00:31] <antivirtel> I've checked the MD5 sums
[00:57] <antizun> holax
[00:57] <daftykins> er, ok
[00:57] <Johnny_Linux> ohluh
[01:02] <c|oneman> How do I change the screen resolution of an ubuntu system that doesn't have a GUI... aka the resolution of the terminal?
[01:03] <darthanubis> grub
[01:03] <antivirtel> daftykins I have an other problem here: 08ff:5731 AuthenTec, Inc. AES3500 TruePrint Sensor - this fingerprint reader, I have 2 copies of it, and I want to make it work, but I couldn't, ubuntu's problem: http://www.noobslab.com/2014/12/use-fingerprint-to-command-control-your.html -> fingerprint-gui : Depends: libfakekey0 (>= 0.1) but it is not installable  Depends: libqca2-plugin-ossl but it is not installable --- may I gather those
[01:03] <antivirtel> packages somehow manually?
[01:04] <daftykins> sorry i couldn't care less about gimmicky features like finger print scanners
[01:04] <daftykins> biometrics just aren't safe :>
[01:04] <Bashing-om> clopez_: ^^ try editing /etc/default/grub to something like " GRUB_GFXMODE=1600x900 " as in my use case .
[01:04] <CTU-Bobbe> Russian dudes will cut your finger off, right?
[01:06] <zykotick9> c|oneman: if you don't care about the resolution while booting, you can try installing fbset and using that.
[01:06] <daftykins> CTU-Bobbe: off topic chatter can go elsewhere thanks
[01:07] <c|oneman> Bashing-om: why am I editing the boot loader config for the resolution of my terminal?
[01:08] <daftykins> c|oneman: TTYs.
[01:08] <antivirtel> I know it daftykins, but I do need to set it up, if I've bought it... may I report this issue on lanunchpad, right?
[01:08] <daftykins> just try it.
[01:08] <daftykins> antivirtel: don't know.
[01:08] <daftykins> i ignore all the fingerprint readers on everything i own :)
[01:08] <antivirtel> _D
[01:08] <antivirtel> what are you using? 2FA?
[01:09] <Bashing-om> clopez_: No Gui, and as far as I know that edit persist in the terminal .
[01:12] <OerHeks> c|oneman, maybe this ppa, different from fingerprint-gui is any help https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/ubuntu/fprint
[01:13] <c|oneman> I didn't ask about fingerprint readers
[01:14] <daftykins> c|oneman: you read the wrong replies, see the one with your username in front
[01:14] <daftykins> seriously sometimes i wonder if any of you went to school =|
[01:15] <OerHeks> sorry c|oneman was for antivirtel
[01:26] <antivirtel> OerHeks, I'm trying it, but it has the same issue
[01:28] <Bray90820> Can someone help me edit this fstab entry to have write permissions
[01:29] <daftykins> not until you link to one :)
[01:29] <Bray90820> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ydfax3CC
[01:29] <Bray90820> I was getting to that ;)
[01:30] <daftykins> password=blah,uid=1000,gid=1000,iochar...
[01:30] <daftykins> you should have //192...
[01:31] <sprdlj> hi guys
[01:32] <Bray90820> daftykins: are you sure the //192 is needed I have read permissions already with a single /
[01:32] <daftykins> it is the correct notation, yes
[01:32] <TsuDoughNym> hi all. OK to ask questions in this channel or is there a better channel?
[01:33] <Bray90820> Oh my bad I just looked at it and there was already a bouble / I copied it wrong
[01:33] <Bray90820> /
[01:33] <bindi> !ask | TsuDoughNym
[01:33] <daftykins> TsuDoughNym: see the topic? support channel :)
[01:33] <Bray90820> "//"
[01:33] <TsuDoughNym> ahh, sorry.
[01:33] <daftykins> Bray90820: yeah see above then
[01:33] <RNeville> !patience
[01:33] <TsuDoughNym> well I'm having an issue with my new install of ubuntu server just booting to a blank screen.  First, I had issues installing GRUB but I seem to have figured that out.  I can boot into a recovery console but not the actual system -it's just a blank screen.
[01:34] <Bray90820> daftykins: So I should add password=blah,uid=1000,gid=1000,iochar... to the end
[01:34] <daftykins> Bray90820: no, because you already have part of what i typed. so you add the parts i typed.
[01:34] <daftykins> Bray90820: are you able to read both and compare them?
[01:34] <TsuDoughNym> I have working linux knowledge and have installed this multiple times on multiple machines, VM's, etc, and never had this issue.  If it matters, i'm using a dell optiplex 7010 desktop that I got from work.  Took out the SSD and replaced it with my own drive.
[01:34] <TsuDoughNym> no dual boot, no UEFI settings, etc.
[01:34] <Bray90820> daftykins: idk what do you mean
[01:34] <daftykins> Bray90820: seriously?
[01:35] <Bray90820> daftykins: Oh now I get you
[01:35] <Bray90820> Sorry it took me a second
[01:35] <daftykins> either you're up late, more drunk than me, or something else ;)
[01:35] <Bray90820> Or just acting like a complete idiot :P
[01:36] <daftykins> TsuDoughNym: perhaps worth trying something like - http://askubuntu.com/questions/138532/12-04-server-does-not-honor-grub-gfxmode-in-etc-default-grub
[01:36] <Bray90820> But yea I am guessing you add the extra stuff to the end of the file
[01:36] <daftykins> no! in the same line!
[01:36] <PHPLearner> hello
[01:36] <daftykins> can't you see how i repeated parameters you already have in there?
[01:36] <daftykins> you wouldn't tell it password= twice
[01:36] <Bray90820> daftykins: I get that
[01:36] <PHPLearner> if the system finds anything that fails how can I repair it
[01:36] <PHPLearner> what commands shall I make on the terminal
[01:37] <Bray90820> daftykins: I'll make a markup of it and show you if it's correct
[01:37] <daftykins> PHPLearner: "finds anything that fails" ? like what?
[01:37] <PHPLearner> I do not know
[01:37] <PHPLearner> when I boot it a while ago
[01:37] <PHPLearner> i saw two feedback that says failed
[01:37] <PHPLearner> but still my ubuntu 14.04 manage to boot
[01:38] <daftykins> PHPLearner: can you see how ridiculous your question is when neither of us have a clue what an error message stated?
[01:38] <Bashing-om> TsuDoughNym: Have you tried to boot with the "nomodeset" boot parameter ?
[01:38] <daftykins> Bashing-om: i thought that, but it's server
[01:38] <PHPLearner> no because I just saw two red flags on the right of my screen while the laptop was booting up
[01:38] <Bray90820> daftykins: like this?
[01:38] <Bray90820> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=REtvNdj2
[01:39] <PHPLearner> normally I do not see those read failed message
[01:39] <TsuDoughNym> Bashing-om: Yup! I enabled that from within the boot-repair-disk tool on my USB
[01:39] <TsuDoughNym> and daftykins I just tried that link/solution --- no dice.  It just shows a blank screen, not garbled text.
[01:39] <PHPLearner> that is why I asked even if I cannot exactly described what it was completely
[01:39] <TsuDoughNym> but it boots perfectly fine in recovery mode, so something is going on...
[01:39] <daftykins> Bray90820: yeah give it a test. "sudo umount /mnt/qnap/backup && sudo mount -a"
[01:39] <PHPLearner> when you boot up linux it will say a lot of things on the screen right
[01:40] <daftykins> TsuDoughNym: the method was sound, the post might've been about a different issue but it didn't matter
[01:40] <TsuDoughNym> Bashing-om: to clarify: the boot-repair-disk menu has an option for nomodeset and I enabled that option the last time I used it. Didn't make any difference.  I installed ubuntu server from a live USB
[01:40] <PHPLearner> then on the right side of the screen it says ok if that process was ok
[01:40] <daftykins> PHPLearner: well no you'd normally have a boot logo, so you're seeing the streams of text. go reboot and write them down
[01:40] <TsuDoughNym> daftykins: understood.  But to answer the question, no it didn't work for me.
[01:40] <PHPLearner> then for two occasions last night and earlier I kept on seeing this two failed labels on the right side of the screen
[01:41] <PHPLearner> exactly what it was I really do not know because the booting sequence was quit fast and it was very difficult to read
[01:41] <PHPLearner> daftykins: it so fast
[01:41] <PHPLearner> I cannot right it down
[01:41] <daftykins> try switching with ctrl+alt+F12 and see if it's there
[01:42] <PHPLearner> that is why I ask is there a way we can diagnose what is the problem by using the terminal commands
[01:42] <Bray90820> daftykins: I think it all works now
[01:42] <PHPLearner> daftykins: is that instruction for me
[01:42] <TsuDoughNym> daftykins: hah.  ctrl+alt+f1 worked.
[01:42] <daftykins> PHPLearner: yes
[01:42] <TsuDoughNym> so I think what's happening is it's trying to boot to X but I don't have X installed?
[01:42] <Bashing-om> TsuDoughNym: Think'n ; A clean fresh install onto the exchanged drive ? Have you been sudo'n in your /home directory such that access is lost ?
[01:42] <daftykins> TsuDoughNym: how odd, it should go to that one as default
[01:43] <TsuDoughNym> indeed
[01:43] <daftykins> TsuDoughNym: no not if you used server media. did you fully update yet? it might help out. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:43] <mytochar> Ubuntu 15.04 claims to come with "virus protection software", but I can't find any more details about that. What virus protection software does it come with?
[01:43] <TsuDoughNym> daftykins: nope about to do that now!
[01:43] <daftykins> !av
[01:43] <TsuDoughNym> I should have tried this before, no idea why I didn't think of it.
[01:43] <daftykins> TsuDoughNym: i don't blame you, that's an odd one for sure :)
[01:44] <mytochar> daftykins: yes, but it says it on the Ubuntu home page "virus protection software"
[01:44] <PHPLearner> daftykins: I saw nothing
[01:44] <TsuDoughNym> although there's a weird discoloration in the text about 1/4th of the way on my screen.
[01:44] <TsuDoughNym> but I won't be using a GUI so idc.
[01:44] <PHPLearner> just blinking cursor
[01:44] <daftykins> PHPLearner: hit each function key in turn to see if you get that screen
[01:45] <PHPLearner> nothing
[01:45] <Bray90820> daftykins: It all works with rsync now Thanks
[01:45] <PHPLearner> daftykins: nothing happens
[01:45] <daftykins> Bray90820: np
[01:45] <PHPLearner> any boot logs to consult
[01:45] <daftykins> PHPLearner: ok then you'll have to read through logs to find the relevant one
[01:46] <PHPLearner> ok what command shall I issue on the terminal
[01:46] <TsuDoughNym> daftykins: ty for help
[01:46] <TsuDoughNym> Bashing-om: ty for your help too
[01:46] <daftykins> nah you're going to need to use your brain for this one, PHPLearner
[01:47] <PHPLearner> daftykins: I am new to linux man
[01:47] <PHPLearner> anyway I try google
[01:47] <daftykins> we're all new at some point
[01:47] <PHPLearner> if not I came back to you
[01:47] <soy_el_pulpo> "your brain"? is that in /usr/bin or /usr/sbin?
[01:47] <TsuDoughNym> lol
[01:47] <daftykins> /var/log/boot.log looks nice
[01:47] <Bashing-om> TsuDoughNym: 'tis a puzzle, like to know the answer :)
[01:47] <soy_el_pulpo> only the fittest survive!!
[01:48] <TsuDoughNym> Bashing-om: the computer is booting to the virtual terminal at ctrl+alt+f7
[01:48] <TsuDoughNym> I used ctrl+alt+f1 and it's fine
[01:48] <TsuDoughNym> but now I need to figure out how to set tty1 as the default?
[01:48] <TsuDoughNym> and daftykins i ran an update, nothing needed to be done it seems
[01:48] <PHPLearner> I tried tail -f logfile nothing happens
[01:48] <daftykins> TsuDoughNym: with dist-upgrade?
[01:49] <TsuDoughNym> aye
[01:49] <PHPLearner> I aslo did sudo /var./log/dmesg
[01:49] <TsuDoughNym> it's 14.10, not sure why it didn't upgrade to 15.04...
[01:49] <packetedprophet> hello
[01:49] <packetedprophet> apt-get is throwing me a weird error
[01:49] <packetedprophet>  https://i.imgur.com/VrzWpQP.jpg
[01:49] <packetedprophet> has anyone encountered this before?
[01:49] <TsuDoughNym> ban him
[01:49] <PHPLearner> says not a command
[01:50] <TsuDoughNym> it's pornographic material
[01:50] <daftykins> TsuDoughNym: dist-upgrade despite the name doesn't upgrade distro version :) it's just a trap to trick people ;)
[01:50] <TsuDoughNym> don't click that link if you value your eyesight
[01:50] <TsuDoughNym> lol
[01:50] <soy_el_pulpo> loopback port!!!
[01:50] <TsuDoughNym> can a mod ban packetedprophet ? that link he posted was to gay porn :X
[01:50] <daftykins> !ops | packetedprophet
[01:50] <daftykins> they're probably all asleep
[01:50] <TsuDoughNym> eff
[01:50] <TsuDoughNym> what a douchebag.
[01:51] <daftykins> just be glad that's all it was.
[01:51] <TsuDoughNym> yeah
[01:51] <PHPLearner> daftykins: any suggestion man
[01:51] <daftykins> PHPLearner: yes earlier
[01:51] <soy_el_pulpo> or enjoying the picture... or in the picture
[01:52] <PHPLearner> man I was trying to look for answers here
[01:52] <PHPLearner> I just google something
[01:52] <daftykins> and did you find it?
[01:52] <daftykins> i did.
[01:52] <PHPLearner> but command does not seem to work
[01:52] <daftykins> "command" ?
[01:52] <PHPLearner> yeah I just sent a message earlier
[01:52] <PHPLearner> tail -f logfile
[01:52] <PHPLearner> did not work
[01:52] <soy_el_pulpo> and you typed: "logfile"?
[01:52] <TsuDoughNym> daftykins: doing a dist-upgrade now.  found the ubuntu docs on how to do it. sudo do-release-upgrade....those sneaky bastards!
[01:53] <PHPLearner> /var/log/dmesg also never worked
[01:53] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[01:53] <PHPLearner> hey wait I got something
[01:53] <daftykins> PHPLearner: you realise that "logfile" in the above is not the literal command, but a placeholder for the log file to pick?
[01:53] <daftykins> e.g. i said /var/log/boot.log...
[01:54] <daftykins> "dmesg" would spit out that file, but that's the wrong one
[01:54] <daftykins> sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/boot.log
[01:55] <soy_el_pulpo> "rm -frv /." will be better to get rid of "the problem"
[01:55] <daftykins> elky: ^ another candidate for a +q please
[01:55] <soy_el_pulpo> who?
[01:56] <TsuDoughNym> soy_el_pulpo: don't tell people to run malicious commands.  seriously dude.
[01:56] <elky> soy_el_pulpo: you're being disruptive and giving terrible advice. you should stop.
[01:56] <soy_el_pulpo> daftykins: me? I am not posting gay pictures.... ok I will, sorry
[01:56] <soy_el_pulpo> sorry, will stop
[01:56] <TsuDoughNym> no, but you posted a command which would delete a user's entire hard drive...
[01:57] <PHPLearner> daftykins: ok I just entered those commands now what shall I do next
[01:57] <soy_el_pulpo> TsuDoughNym: and he can install windows and have no problems. but you are right, bad joke
[01:57] <daftykins> paste me the link it gave
[01:57] <elky> soy_el_pulpo: thanks
[01:57] <daftykins> soy_el_pulpo: grow up please.
[01:57] <soy_el_pulpo> It was unavoidable, too tempting, and I was weak
[01:57] <TsuDoughNym> soy_el_pulpo: this is a channel for ubuntu users and can't be assumed that a user will know what that command is! I would never post something like that in a place where people seek help.
[01:58] <daftykins> clearly a teenager.
[01:58] <daftykins> PHPLearner: chop chop, time's wasting
[01:58] <PHPLearner> ok I got the link
[01:58] <elky> daftykins: stop trying to inflame the situation please
[01:58] <PHPLearner> here it is
[01:58] <PHPLearner> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10974664/
[01:59] <daftykins> elky: lets move on now please
[02:00] <soy_el_pulpo> TsuDoughNym: so how we help somebody that has no idea that "tail -f logfile" meant something slightly different. I thisnk that's why linux gets bad reputation. because people (no reference to PHPLearner) are lazy. At least he figure out how to came here and ask... that's a progress, right?
[02:00] <daftykins> PHPLearner: not seeing one.
[02:00] <daftykins> PHPLearner: video your boot up maybe
[02:00] <TsuDoughNym> soy_el_pulpo: as elky said, move on.
[02:00] <soy_el_pulpo> TsuDoughNym: ok
[02:00] <PHPLearner> no give me time
[02:00] <PHPLearner> wait please
[02:01] <daftykins> PHPLearner: also note you've not configured apache with an FQDN.
[02:01] <PHPLearner> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10974664/
[02:01] <daftykins> that's the same link...
[02:01] <PHPLearner> daftykins: wow that's new
[02:01] <PHPLearner> what do you mean I never configured apache with an FQDN
[02:01] <PHPLearner> ok that one is for later
[02:02] <PHPLearner> for now I just want to make sure my Ubuntu 14.04 is working properly and no glitches
[02:02] <daftykins> well click the link yourself... see line 97
[02:02] <daftykins> yeah but you can't even tell me what error you've seen?
[02:03] <PHPLearner> darn man
[02:03] <PHPLearner> that is really my problem
[02:03] <PHPLearner> honest
[02:03] <soy_el_pulpo> PHPLearner: what makes you think that is not working properly or it has glitches?
[02:03] <PHPLearner> I just do not like seeing those log in labels to the right side of the screen when my linux boots up
[02:04] <PHPLearner> usually each process will have an OK label at the right side when my linux boots up
[02:04] <daftykins> so video it or write them down, something so we actually know what you're seeing.
[02:04] <daftykins> yes i know what you're talking about
[02:04] <PHPLearner> since last night it was like that and also earlier
[02:04] <PHPLearner> but the booting sequence is too fast for me to right
[02:05] <soy_el_pulpo> PHPLearner: which lines are not givin you the OK label?
[02:05] <daftykins> hence the suggestion to perhaps video it instead
[02:05] <PHPLearner> is I were to follow your instruction then I have to keep on rebooting
[02:05] <PHPLearner> I also cannot tell
[02:05] <daftykins> apply some out-of-the-box thinking to this problem
[02:05] <PHPLearner> ok
[02:05] <PHPLearner> fine
[02:05] <PHPLearner> I will try to figure this out and come back to you guys
[02:05] <PHPLearner> give me a minute
[02:05] <daftykins> soy_el_pulpo: yeah we've not been told
[02:05] <PHPLearner> hope you are still around when I get those messages
[02:05] <soy_el_pulpo> you keboard has a "pause" key?
[02:06] <pkircher> spacebar for the win !
[02:06] <PHPLearner> soy_el_pulpo: you mean if I press pause during the booting sequence linux will pause too
[02:06] <soy_el_pulpo> boot and press the "pause" key on your keyboard to stop them from scrolling, write them down and then ENTER to continue
[02:06] <daftykins> well, any key
[02:07] <soy_el_pulpo> daftykins: where is the "any key"?
[02:07] <daftykins> please grow up.
[02:07] <soy_el_pulpo> PHPLearner: just press ENTER or SPACE BAR
[02:07] <pkircher> exaxtly 99% of problems on any computer .. sit in front ..
[02:07] <soy_el_pulpo> daftykins: those are more acurate instructions
[02:08] <PHPLearner> ok thanks
[02:08] <PHPLearner> I will be back
[02:08] <PHPLearner> see you guys later
[02:08] <PHPLearner> hope you all are still around
[02:08] <daftykins> i sure won't be
[02:08] <soy_el_pulpo> write the lines you "don't like" or "seem odd" and post them back here so we can help you
[02:08] <pkircher> and reg extrem accurate insturctions … >> he managed to get irc working
[02:09] <soy_el_pulpo> pkircher: true, that's why I said he worth saving
[02:09] <pkircher> but hey even a stoped clock is right twice a day
[02:10] <pkircher> gosh darn .. anyone with openstack neuron exp around ?
[02:10] <soy_el_pulpo> pkircher: ;)
[02:10] <pkircher> neutron*
[02:11] <daftykins> tends to be better to ask the actual question rather than "does anyone use <this>?"
[02:11] <daftykins> also, it best be ubuntu support
[02:12] <TsuDoughNym> man, so much hostility all of a sudden :(
[02:13] <daftykins> where?
[02:13] <elky> you.
[02:13] <daftykins> i think you're misreading.
[02:20] <TsuDoughNym> hey daftykins
[02:21] <TsuDoughNym> I fixed the boot issue
[02:21] <TsuDoughNym> http://askubuntu.com/questions/148717/how-do-i-boot-into-the-console-and-then-launch-the-ubuntu-desktop-from-it
[02:21] <daftykins> o rly
[02:21] <TsuDoughNym> yup
[02:21] <TsuDoughNym> so it boots to tty1 directly
[02:21] <daftykins> hrmm must say i've never seen server do that, but i also never use non-LTS server
[02:21] <daftykins> so who knows
[02:21] <TsuDoughNym> still have no idea what CAUSED it on a fresh install, but that's OK.  I'm going to reinstall using the 1.5TB HDD and see if it's the same issue, but i'm installing from a burned CD this time instead of a USB
[02:21] <TsuDoughNym> it's LTS
[02:21] <TsuDoughNym> 14.04.1 LTS
[02:22] <daftykins> oh i thought you said 14.10 earlier
[02:22] <TsuDoughNym> oh the CD i have is 14.04 but I must have upgraded to 14.10 w/o realizing it.
[02:22] <daftykins> now *that* definitely has the potential to go screwy
[02:22] <daftykins> i have to go now, laters
[02:22] <TsuDoughNym> take care
[02:22] <TsuDoughNym> i'm gonna stick with LTS
[02:26] <PHPLearner> ok guys I got it
[02:26] <PHPLearner> I took photo
[02:26] <PHPLearner> hang on met me share you the link
[02:27] <pragmaticenigma> I'm having an issue with openssh-server. I can connect on the localmachine using "ssh localhost" but if I try to remote in from another machine I get connection refused. The port setup is 22 and firewall is setup to allow all incoming connections. What else could I be missing?
[02:28] <TsuDoughNym> pragmaticenigma: can you ping the server in question?
[02:28] <sdfgsdfg> about quantum compilers, are they still all mainly theoretical papers that explain qubit operations, matrix and permutation calculations or are there simulating source codes of a working compiler today ?
[02:28] <pragmaticenigma> yes
[02:29] <TsuDoughNym> ssh localhost would only ssh into your own machine, not another machine on the network
[02:29] <sdfgsdfg> any pointers for this in ubuntu ? (so my question is relevant)
[02:29] <TsuDoughNym> make sure the sshd daemon is running
[02:29] <rebs> if i have a program running which eats all my memory and i allocate more swap space
[02:29] <rebs> will it be used by my program
[02:29] <pragmaticenigma> TsuDoughNym, The daemon is running. Like I said, on the same machine I successfully use "ssh user@localhost" but if I'm on another machine, it says the connection is refused
[02:29] <rebs> or would i need to rs
[02:30] <TsuDoughNym> hmm
[02:30] <TsuDoughNym> pragmaticenigma: I also just use 'tasksel' to enable an OpenSSH server and never have issues.  I'm no expert.
[02:30] <TsuDoughNym> I've had that issue in the past but it's usually just been the daemon not running.
[02:31] <PHPLearner> alright guys here's the link
[02:31] <PHPLearner> http://imgur.com/koSI9ot
[02:31] <PHPLearner> I do not know what it is actually saying
[02:31] <PHPLearner> but that's the best I can get
[02:31] <PHPLearner> the booting sequence is really very fast
[02:32] <PHPLearner> luckily I manage to capture it
[02:32] <TsuDoughNym> PHPLearner: I'm no expert, but it seems to be normal to have some errors like that in bootup.  I've never had any issues.
[02:32] <PHPLearner> I has something to do with the Active Directory Server
[02:32] <TsuDoughNym> if you want to learn what each error is, you could do a google search for more details
[02:32] <TsuDoughNym> well are you on an active directory-managed network?
[02:33] <TsuDoughNym> AD is typically for windows machines, as well.
[02:33] <al2o3-cr> pragmaticenigma: use -vvv to spit out more verbose error messages
[02:33] <PHPLearner> yeah this error came about right after I uninstalled wine
[02:33] <PHPLearner> I should not have done it
[02:34] <TsuDoughNym> wine has nothing to do with active directory
[02:34] <PHPLearner> anything I can do to eliminate this error on my ubuntu 14.04
[02:34] <PHPLearner> but this error only occurred after I install and uninstalled wine
[02:34] <PHPLearner> last night
[02:34] <TsuDoughNym> PHPLearner: I honestly don't think it will cause any issues, unless you're have an issue directly related to it.  How often do you boot that it really bothers you?
[02:35] <PHPLearner> are you sure this is nothing to worry about
[02:35] <TsuDoughNym> No, I'm no expert.  I just know that every installation I've seen will have a few quirky errors like that.
[02:35] <PHPLearner> I am on my last leg of the PHP course and I do not want my laptop to go haywire when I am presenting my project
[02:35] <PHPLearner> no
[02:35] <TsuDoughNym> I highly doubt that will happen.
[02:35] <PHPLearner> since I installed my ubuntu 14.04 painstakingly five months ago
[02:35] <PHPLearner> I had no issues
[02:36] <TsuDoughNym> You could ask on the WineHQ forums.
[02:36] <PHPLearner> only this pesky thing came up last night
[02:36] <TsuDoughNym> since you noticed it happened after re/installing wine
[02:37] <pragmaticenigma> al2o3-cr, only thing that sticks out to me is "debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0" don't know what that means
[02:38] <pragmaticenigma> al2o3-cr, otherwise it doesn't provide any additional useful information
[02:38] <al2o3-cr> pragmaticenigma: are you trying to login as root??
[02:39] <pragmaticenigma> al2o3-cr, no, I am attempt a standard user
[02:39] <al2o3-cr> hmm
[02:40] <pragmaticenigma> al2o3-cr, I can login successfully "user@localhost" but remoting from another machine to "user@remote_ip" fails with connection refused
[02:40] <al2o3-cr> thats got a be a firewall issue
[02:41] <al2o3-cr> on your local lan you connecting?
[02:41] <pragmaticenigma> al2o3-cr, firewall is setup to allow port 22 and netstat reports the port is open
[02:42] <al2o3-cr> pragmaticenigma: are you connecting from your local LAN?
[02:42] <pragmaticenigma> al2o3-cr, yes, I am on my local network
[02:43] <al2o3-cr> pragmaticenigma: pastebin your sshd_config
[02:43] <PHPLearner> TsuDoughNym: where are soy_el_pupol
[02:43] <PHPLearner> and the other guys earlier
[02:43] <PHPLearner> who tried to helped me
[02:45] <surgy> hello
[02:46] <pragmaticenigma> al2o3-cr, pastebin.com/nxjH2sav
[02:46] <al2o3-cr> ok reading now
[02:47] <al2o3-cr> pragmaticenigma: #PasswordAuthentication yes uncomment this then try again
[02:48] <MouseTheLuckyDog> I have a script which I am liable to launch while cd'd to various directories. Is there a way for the script to know which directory it is stored in?
[02:48] <pragmaticenigma> al2o3-cr, no effect
[02:48] <surgy> how do i make a shortcut to an aplication on the desktop?
[02:48] <al2o3-cr> you are using a password to authenticate aren't you?
[02:49] <pragmaticenigma> it doesn't get far enough to prompt for one
[02:49] <al2o3-cr> pragmaticenigma: restart ssh server
[02:49] <pragmaticenigma> did that
[02:50] <al2o3-cr> thats weird
[02:51] <pragmaticenigma> think I might be reinstalling this machine tomorrow
[02:51] <pragmaticenigma> it's a fresh install, and I have never had this happen before
[02:52] <al2o3-cr> yeah, can't see what wrong there
[02:52] <Boogie> Anyone recommend a simple video converter?
[02:52] <al2o3-cr> connection refused generally means port is closed or wrong ip address
[02:53] <pragmaticenigma> al2o3-cr, right... and i've double checked all those pieces
[02:53] <pragmaticenigma> al2o3-cr, there is a different (unrelated) issue that puzzles me. VeraCrypt will not run either. So I suspect something is missing from the installation
[02:55] <al2o3-cr> pragmaticenigma: well, good luck :)
[02:55] <pragmaticenigma> thanks
[02:55] <al2o3-cr> unless someone on here knows anything better
[02:55] <pragmaticenigma> al2o3-cr, you wouldn't think installing ubuntu with disk encryption would have anything to do with it
[02:56] <al2o3-cr> pragmaticenigma: not at all
[02:56] <pragmaticenigma> didn't think so
[02:57] <al2o3-cr> have you tried with keys?
[02:57] <surgy> i want to make shortcuts/ launchers of my applications on my "desktop" when i drag them onto the background it says "unsuported locations / " whats am i doing wrong??
[02:57] <pragmaticenigma> al2o3-cr, that wouldn't make any difference
[02:58] <pragmaticenigma> al2o3-cr, and I would need to be able to have some method of getting the key installed on the system that is refusing connections
[02:58] <al2o3-cr> pragmaticenigma: yeah true
[02:59] <al2o3-cr> pragmaticenigma: usb stick?
[03:00] <pragmaticenigma> al2o3-cr, still wouldn't honestly make any difference... the server works using localhost... something is preventing remote connections
[03:00] <al2o3-cr> but like you said it shouldn't make a difference
[03:01] <pragmaticenigma> I think this is going to be a process of elimination... was hoping to setup a "lock box" of a server to store some backed up files on
[03:02] <pragmaticenigma> but I need to be able to remote in the files over sftp
[03:02] <pragmaticenigma> so first step is to rebuild without the disk encryption and work my way from there
[03:03] <surgy> what package do i need to install to make kde my defualt WM ?
[03:03] <surgy> or rather what package do  i need to install to get kde?
[03:03] <surgy> is it still called "kde-desktop" ?
[03:04] <pragmaticenigma> surgy, you would be better to use the kubuntu spin instead
[03:04] <surgy> pragmaticenigma, i guess thats what i meant
[03:04] <surgy> is it still called kubuntu-desktop ?
[03:04] <surgy> been a few years since ive played with nix
[03:04] <pragmaticenigma> that is a meta package that will install KDE
[03:06] <surgy> pragmaticenigma, kubuntu is a little easier to customize the launcher right?
[03:06] <surgy> pragmaticenigma, because there isnt much you can do with the unity launcher?
[03:09] <pragmaticenigma> surgy, that's all personal preference... anything can be customized, but it's a matter of how much time and effort it might take
[03:09] <pragmaticenigma> if you're running unity, that might explain why you cannot put shortcuts on the desktop
[03:09] <pragmaticenigma> I think unity is meant for everything to live in the dash or on the sidebar
[03:54] <bzaks1424> Howdy friends- I was curious if anyone had any favorites for iscsi packages these days?
[03:55] <Bashing-om> bzaks1424: A better response to that in #ubuntu-offtopic channel .
[03:56] <bzaks1424> Oh, I'm sorry. Thank you!
[03:57] <surgy_> im using two monitors..... the unity launcher is on the wrong monitor. how do i fix this???
[04:00] <pragmaticenigma> surgy_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/57833/how-to-move-unity-launcher-to-a-different-monitor
[04:00] <sta|ker> Hi guys. I'm having a weird issue with Ubuntu after installation. Everything with the install went fine; however, the UEFI partition ( or efi files ) aren't being detected by my machine. Now, it detects the ones from the USB flash drive; however, when it's installed to the usb stick, it doesn't. The efi partition looks fine from GParted, and the files are there. I  even tried running boot-repair which said
[04:01] <sta|ker>  it performed its tasks properly but still didn't fix it. I can get into the system by using the grub shell from the usb stick. I thought maybe a bios update was needed; however, if the usb stick worked why wouldn't the hard drive one work? This was also a barebones board so there is no windows ( and never was ). Everything is from scratch so it can't be interfeirence from what I can tell. Anyone ever run
[04:01] <sta|ker> into this?
[04:01] <pragmaticenigma> surgy_, I suggest doing a google search for more up-to-date solutions though
[04:01] <pragmaticenigma> sta|ker, the recommendation is to disable UEFI
[04:03] <surgy_> pragmaticenigma, i guess i asked the wrong question..... how do i make one screen my default desktop?
[04:03] <shootingcharlie8> hi
[04:03] <pragmaticenigma> surgy_, I don't understand what you are asking
[04:06] <surgy_> pragmaticenigma, i guess im just a little flustered with how hard it is to cutomize that big ugly block on the left side of the left monitor
[04:09] <pragmaticenigma> surgy_, perhaps Unity isn't the right desktop for you... I know that there are lots of tutorials online about customizing unity to your liking
[04:10] <sta|ker> pragmaticenigma: alright, I was hopeing not to have to do so; however, it looks like I may have to. Thanks for taking a look
[04:12] <spenmenn> have you tried unity tweak tool
[04:15] <pragmaticenigma> sta|ker, sadly UEFI support is limited at best... UEFI is really kind of a joke and serves only to prevent users from doing what they want with their PCs
[04:16] <RNeville> anyone have any recommendations about go linux books
[04:17] <RNeville> that discusses in some detail how linux operates
[04:17] <RNeville> anyone have any recommendations about good linux books
[04:19] <RNeville> any book that would help me understand, better, discussions concerning linux
[04:19] <RNeville> I listen to LAS, for sometime, and I still don't really understand linux
[04:20] <PHPLearner> anyone watching pacman vs mayweather fight right now
[04:20] <PHPLearner> online
[04:28] <gp5st> RNeville: what don't you understand? that'll help us guide you
[04:29] <RNeville> It's hard for me to explain
[04:30] <RNeville> Every book about linux is either to general or very , very detailed
[04:30] <RNeville> I would like an over view of linux, but with some detail.
[04:31] <RNeville> a discussion of the basic distro, and their differences
[04:31] <azizLIGHT> how do i make a custom sound play for 'beep' ? i already tried alias beep="" but this is only useful when a program actually runs beep, and thats never. i need something that replaces echo -e '\a' ... any ideas?
[04:51] <Twelve-60`> so I'm installing ubuntu 32bit 14.04.2, anyone know where the 'minimal' install went in the modes menu (F4)?
[04:51] <Twelve-60`> all I've got is 'normal'
[04:52] <danhedron> I just installed 15.04, trying to use curl and I'm getting this =>
[04:52] <danhedron> curl: (77) error setting certificate verify locations:
[04:52] <danhedron>   CAfile: /etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt
[04:52] <danhedron> it works if I symlink /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt, but why is it only looking there in the first place
[04:54] <Twelve-60`> I'm expecting this http://i.stack.imgur.com/gPKzv.png but I only have 'normal' in the menu
[04:56] <pragmaticenigma> Twelve-60`, perhaps the disk image you need is the net install disk, usually listed as mini-iso
[04:57] <Twelve-60`> I thought the net install was separate from a minimal system install?
[05:00] <pragmaticenigma> the net install can perform the minimal install... it's able to install all supported "spins" of ubuntu and has the added benefit of isntalling the most up-to-date versions of all the supported packages
[05:01] <Twelve-60`> doesn't allow me an offline minimal install though
[05:03] <pragmaticenigma> no, you would have to be online to use the net install (kind of why it's called the net installer)
[05:04] <Twelve-60`> this does not help me! :P
[05:05] <pragmaticenigma> Twelve-60`, this is the only thing I can find for a minimal installation https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall
[05:05] <pragmaticenigma> Twelve-60`, or you can go Ubuntu Server
[05:05] <Twelve-60`> I'm install ubuntu server, have a look at http://askubuntu.com/a/207241
[05:06] <Twelve-60`> its meant to have options under the modes menu
[05:06] <Twelve-60`> its just not there in 14.04.2
[05:09] <[n0mad]> Twelve-60`: did you try the minimal iso? i would imagine that they removed it
[05:10] <Twelve-60`> [n0mad] the minimal iso is separate, thats an online install
[05:10] <Twelve-60`> im looking for a minimal offline install
[05:11] <pragmaticenigma> that's for ubuntu 12.04, not 14.04
[05:12] <Twelve-60`> pragmaticenigma: what do you mean?
[05:12] <PHPLearner> can anyone help me with this problem
[05:12] <PHPLearner> http://imgur.com/koSI9ot
[05:13] <Gamer1990> hello
[05:13] <PHPLearner> I saw two failed log messages there involving sbm/cifs file and active directory server
[05:13] <Gamer1990> i'm having some issues
[05:13] <PHPLearner> How can I correct them
[05:13] <PHPLearner> I am new to linux ubuntu 14.04
[05:14] <pragmaticenigma> Twelve-60`, the documentation that you linked to is for Ubuntu 12.04... you're trying to install 14.04... the minimal option was likely removed in the more recent installers... there isn't any documentation I can find other than to use the minimal installer which requires an online connection during isntallation
[05:14] <PHPLearner> this happened after I installaed and uninstalled wine last night
[05:14] <Gamer1990> the error i am getting in DRI is "libGL: Can't open configuration file /root/.drirc: No such file or directory."
[05:14] <PHPLearner> thanks for the help in advance
[05:14] <Twelve-60`> pragmaticenigma: I swear I did this not long ago on 14.04... :/
[05:14] <pragmaticenigma> Twelve-60`, I know that the Ubuntu Server install image will install a minimal system, because it will prompt you during installation what additional modules you want... if you don't select any you are left with the minimal system
[05:15] <Gamer1990> i'm running lubuntu 15.04 x86-64
[05:15] <Gamer1990> and my 3d applications are slow
[05:15] <Gamer1990> 2d is fine
[05:16] <Gamer1990> am i in the right channel?
[05:17] <Gamer1990> the graphs processor is an ATI RS480 ( Radeon Xpress 200 ) IGP
[05:17] <pragmaticenigma> Twelve-60`, the only documentation I see for a minimal install is the minimal iso, which I will repeat, requires an online connection to work
[05:17] <Gamer1990> graphics*
[05:17] <al2o3-cr> PHPLearner: echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/samba-ad-dc.override # should get rid of the fail message
[05:17] <pragmaticenigma> Twelve-60`, that is the most anyone here is going to be able to help you with I'm affraid
[05:18] <Gamer1990> ??? why am i being ignored???
[05:19] <pragmaticenigma> al2o3-cr, I figured out my ssh issue... guess I had the wrong IP address the whole time... I was attempting to connect to .61 when I should have been connecting to .62... my stupid router listed the .62 under the .61 labeling .61 as UNKNOWN... which I assumed was Ubuntu
[05:19] <PHPLearner> al2o3-cr: thanks
[05:19] <PHPLearner> I will try rebooting
[05:19] <al2o3-cr> pragmaticenigma: I thought it had to be one port or ip :)
[05:20] <al2o3-cr> anyway glad you sorted it :)
[05:20] <antivirtel> hello! can someone help me solving these bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/fingerprint-gui/+bug/1451123 https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-mount/+bug/1451130 ? I'd really appreciate it!
[05:20] <Gamer1990> the ubuntu team is messed up... no offense
[05:20] <pragmaticenigma> al2o3-cr, likely PEBKAC due to being so late in the evening
[05:21] <al2o3-cr> pragmaticenigma: ;P
[05:21] <pragmaticenigma> al2o3-cr, at least it saves me from a full reinstall... still don't know why VeraCrypt is having issues... but that's a battle for another day
[05:21] <pragmaticenigma> al2o3-cr, thanks for the assist
[05:22] <al2o3-cr> pragmaticenigma: np
[05:24] <InsaneNutter> can someone here please help me?
[05:25] <al2o3-cr> InsaneNutter: state your issue to the channel :)
[05:25] <InsaneNutter> this one?
[05:25] <al2o3-cr> yep, if it's ubuntu releated
[05:26] <InsaneNutter> i am having issues with Mesa DRI r300
[05:27] <InsaneNutter> my gpu is an Radeon Xpress 200 RS480 IGP
[05:27] <InsaneNutter> this is the error.
[05:27] <InsaneNutter> libGL: Can't open configuration file /root/.drirc: No such file or directory.
[05:28] <InsaneNutter> i am insanenutter
[05:29] <al2o3-cr> InsaneNutter: ls -l /dev/dri/card0 # whats the output?
[05:29] <InsaneNutter> al2o3-cr
[05:30] <InsaneNutter> oops
[05:30] <InsaneNutter> hold on
[05:31] <InsaneNutter> al2o3-cr:  crw-rw----+ 1 root video 226, 0 May  2 04:58 /dev/dri/card0
[05:32] <al2o3-cr> InsaneNutter: are you in the video group?
[05:33] <InsaneNutter> ?
[05:33] <InsaneNutter> i'm in the lxterminal as root
[05:34] <al2o3-cr> type: groups # to see what groups you are in
[05:34] <InsaneNutter> as root or normal user?
[05:34] <al2o3-cr> as normal user
[05:34] <InsaneNutter> hold on...
[05:35] <InsaneNutter> ben adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[05:36] <al2o3-cr> InsaneNutter: add your self to the video group with: sudo adduser <user> video
[05:36] <[n0mad]> this groups talk just gave me an idea for an issue on my server! but it'll have to wait till tomorrow.
[05:37] <InsaneNutter> so " sudo adduser ben video "
[05:37] <al2o3-cr> InsaneNutter: if that is your username, yes
[05:37] <InsaneNutter> okay, hold on
[05:39] <InsaneNutter> i did it, now what?
[05:40] <al2o3-cr> that should do it i hope :)
[05:40] <InsaneNutter> do i reboot?
[05:40] <[n0mad]> how can i list all users and their associated groups?
[05:40] <InsaneNutter> ...
[05:40] <al2o3-cr> InsaneNutter: yes reboot
[05:40] <InsaneNutter> i'll be back...
[05:41] <al2o3-cr> [n0mad]: groups <user>
[05:41] <[n0mad]> is the only way to specify a user?
[05:42] <al2o3-cr> [n0mad]: cat /etc/passwd
[05:45] <InsaneNutter> i'm still having issues
[05:45] <InsaneNutter> libGL: Can't open configuration file /home/ben/.drirc: No such file or directory.
[05:45] <mark68> Hey Guys! im having problems with grub. i have installed windows 7 and ubuntu dual boot with grub. unfortunately the grub menu is painful slow and the booting takes a lot of time due grub.
[05:45] <[n0mad]> cool, thanks al2o3-cr ... i think that will help me figure out why i have to keep reassigning ownership
[05:46] <al2o3-cr> Did you install the driver as root?
[05:46] <InsaneNutter> yes
[05:46] <al2o3-cr> ^^ InsaneNutter
[05:46] <al2o3-cr> InsaneNutter: how?
[05:46] <InsaneNutter> do i have to install it as a normal user?
[05:46] <al2o3-cr> InsaneNutter: how did you install though?
[05:48] <InsaneNutter> i'm using the opendriver because fglrx doesn't support my gpu
[05:48] <InsaneNutter> i installed it via the sudo su terminal
[05:49] <Twelve-60> pragmaticenigma: that was the problem, I get http://i.stack.imgur.com/WGJlN.jpg but the top option 'basic ubuntu server' is completely gone, does that mean its installed?
[05:49] <al2o3-cr> InsaneNutter: pastebin: LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo
[05:49] <cfhowlett> InsaneNutter, sudo su?  there's your problem right there.
[05:49] <InsaneNutter> hold on a few
[05:49] <InsaneNutter> as root?
[05:50] <al2o3-cr> no
[05:50] <InsaneNutter> hold on.
[05:50] <al2o3-cr> why everything root man ;P
[05:50] <cfhowlett> exactly
[05:52] <pragmaticenigma> Twelve-60, if you don't select anything in that panel, you would end up with a minimal installation. It will only boot to a terminal (no gui) and as you have selected currently... you could remotely access that installation via SSH
[05:52] <pragmaticenigma> I don't know what all gets installed with Basic Ubuntu Server
[05:53] <Matsy> Basic Ubuntu Server contains python-libraries for instance (and python itself)
[05:53] <InsaneNutter> here
[05:53] <InsaneNutter> http://pastebin.com/Y5WU9Hs2
[05:53] <Matsy> And also landscape-bindings
[05:53] <cfhowlett> Matsy, as does desktop
[05:53] <Matsy> Why are we talking about Desktop here
[05:53] <pragmaticenigma> Twelve-60, here is a guide on what gets installed with Basic Ubuntu Server http://askubuntu.com/questions/153265/what-does-the-basic-ubuntu-server-package-contain-in-software-selection-during
[05:54] <pragmaticenigma> Matsy, Twelve-60 is looking for help doing a minimal install, since the option no longer appears as an option when booting from the isntallation media
[05:55] <al2o3-cr> InsaneNutter: that looks fine when does this error occur?
[05:55] <Matsy> pragmaticenigma: Thanks, I joined too late
[05:55] <pragmaticenigma> Matsy, no problems :-)
[05:55] <pragmaticenigma> I've got to jet here... good night everyone
[05:55] <Twelve-60> pragmaticenigma: so maybe that is gone now too?
[05:56] <Matsy> Doesn't Ubuntu release 'minimal CDs'?
[05:56] <Twelve-60> Matsy: but not offline versions :)
[05:56] <cfhowlett> !mini | Matsy,
[05:56] <pragmaticenigma> Twelve-60, I remember something recently about Canonical offering "core" installations in ubcoming releases... but haven't researched it
[05:56] <Matsy> Twelve-60: Is this 1980 again?
[05:57] <Twelve-60> Matsy: no, this is a robotics conference with bad wifi
[05:57] <pragmaticenigma> Matsy, more like trying to install only the packages he needs rather than removing them all later
[05:57] <Matsy> I'd just go with Ubuntu Server, then. Do you really need the gui?
[05:58] <Twelve-60> Matsy: I am using ubuntu server, it just previously had a 'minimal' option which is gone now
[05:58] <pragmaticenigma> I don't think Twelve-60 was looking for the GUI... They're just looking to do a minimal installation but having the ability to do it offline
[05:58] <kroq-gar78> Or Ubuntu Alternate image (if that hasn't been mentioned before) and then install only what you need
[05:58] <Matsy> If you don't select anything, it's as minimal as you can get
[05:58] <Twelve-60> pragmaticenigma: yes! :D
[05:58] <Twelve-60> Matsy: alright, they must have changed it then, there used be a specific options for it
[05:58] <spenmenn> you can remix Ubuntu
[05:59] <kroq-gar78> oh what, alternate images aren't available anymore. sorry
[05:59] <InsaneNutter> during the dri config status
[05:59] <Drone4four> i just followed the OMG ubuntu guide for installing Microsoft's Visual Studio Code.  it installed fine but i can't figure out how to run the damn thing.  what's the command? In my shell i've tried auto completing all variations of microsoft/visual/code without success
[05:59] <kroq-gar78> Drone4four can you link the guide?
[05:59] <InsaneNutter> i think it is the reason my 3d graphics are laggy
[05:59] <pragmaticenigma> Twelve-60, I think this is what became of the old minimal installation ... http://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/
[06:00] <pragmaticenigma> They're now creating something called "Ubuntu Core"
[06:00] <pragmaticenigma> okay... I'm outa here folks... night
[06:00] <al2o3-cr> InsaneNutter: keep around in the channel mate as i'm out of ideas and don't use the driver ;P
[06:00] <Matsy> Update list for you, Twelve-60: http://termbin.com/3khx
[06:01] <Drone4four> kroq-gar78, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/05/how-to-install-microsoft-visual-studio-code-in-ubuntu
[06:01] <al2o3-cr> InsaneNutter: state your issue again though
[06:01] <Matsy> Whoever linked termbin here, by the way, is my saviour
[06:01] <Drone4four> kroq-gar78, comments on that article are disabled atm
[06:01] <InsaneNutter> i want to make my integrated graphics processor lag less
[06:02] <home> hi
[06:02] <InsaneNutter> and the issue is " libGL: Can't open configuration file /home/ben/.drirc: No such file or directory. " meaning it cannot find the specified file for some reason...
[06:02] <home> i have a problem with ICEauthority
[06:03] <pragmaticenigma> !ask | home
[06:03] <kroq-gar78> Drone4four, try commenting on the article that OMGUbuntu sources: http://blog.didrocks.fr/post/Ubuntu-Make-0.7-released-with-Visual-Studio-Code-support
[06:03] <home> ok
[06:03] <DarrenGao> !patience
[06:04] <InsaneNutter> why did fglrx drop support for my gpu?
[06:05] <Matsy> Because fglrx is outdated?
[06:05] <home> how to reply messages ?
[06:05] <[n0mad]> yes, i just needed to add a user to a group!
[06:06] <home> thank you
[06:06] <al2o3-cr> [n0mad]: \o/
[06:06] <home> hi darrenGao
[06:06] <DarrenGao> sudo adduser YOUR_USER_NAME some_group
[06:06] <home> what group
[06:06] <Drone4four> kroq-gar78, can you think a way of locating the command in /sbin or /user using locate or grep?
[06:07] <[n0mad]> al2o3-cr: it was annoying because i kept having to change ownership for a directory on my wordpress site depending if i wanted to actually post media or install a plugin
[06:07] <[n0mad]> it's the little things
[06:07] <al2o3-cr> [n0mad]: it is and it can be
[06:07] <[n0mad]> thanks for the commands, they helped me figure it out. i've sort of seen all of it just trying to piece it together was my challenge
[06:08] <al2o3-cr> [n0mad]: no worries
[06:10] <home> this is the first time i use web chat irc.please help me :))
[06:10] <[n0mad]> home, you just need to type your question
[06:11] <[n0mad]> if someone can help they will
[06:11] <cfhowlett> home, www.fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads.  get issue #0.  read.  get issue #1.  read.  repeat
[06:12] <xfunex> What do you want to know?
[06:12] <home> ok,thank you
[06:13] <kroq-gar78> Drone4four, I suppose you could try 'find /usr -name "*code*" -type f'
[06:17] <root> hi
[06:17] <ablest1980> hi
[06:17] <Guest32813> where do you come from
[06:17] <ablest1980> mars
[06:17] <xfunex> Ferom redtube
[06:17] <xfunex> *From
[06:18] <InsaneNutter> bhenchod
[06:18] <Guest32813> oh ,hanoi,vietnam
[06:18] <InsaneNutter> pekpek
[06:18] <ablest1980> us
[06:18] <cfhowlett> Guest32813, this is a support channel.  ask ubuntu questions.  chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:18] <InsaneNutter> does he look like a bitch?
[06:18] <cfhowlett> InsaneNutter, stop it.
[06:18] <cfhowlett> !language
[06:19] <InsaneNutter> ok
[06:19] <DarrenGao> :)
[06:19] <Guest32813> ?
[06:19] <drose379> Hey guys, just ran some system updates and im having trouble booting from grub
[06:20] <drose379> It just freezes, unless I go to "Advanced" menu and choose 0-34 generic instead of 0-36
[06:20] <drose379> Can I edit a grub file so that it boots 0-34 by default
[06:21] <Guest32813> i have a problem with ICEauthority
[06:21] <Guest32813> i creat new user but not to login
[06:22] <cfhowlett> !vn | Guest32813,
[06:22] <Guest32813> ok
[06:23] <InsaneNutter> does anyone know how to make my gpu faster, i don't have any better cards, unless you consider an old S3 2MB trio64v+ a good option for 3d lol
[06:23] <Drone4four> thanks kroq-gar78 for the suggestion.  i tried *code* and variations (like visual, microsoft, visual-studio) with the output being way too much information or having no output at all
[06:23] <Drone4four> i'll figure this out tomorrow
[06:23] <Drone4four> cheers for the advice, my friend
[06:23] <kroq-gar78> Drone4four, try changing '-type f' to '-type d'
[06:24] <kroq-gar78> That will look for directories insteaf of files, so the amount of output should be less
[06:26] <InsaneNutter> i might have to resort to eating 10 year old stroganoff with a side of bleach
[06:26] <InsaneNutter> jk lol
[06:26] <Drone4four> the output with '-type d' is a little less chaotic and easier to sift through, but i still can't find the command to start visual-studio-code
[06:32] <al2o3-cr> Drone4four: is it not in the unity launcher?
[06:33] <Twelve-60> Matsy: how'd you get that list? http://termbin.com/3khx
[06:34] <Twelve-60> and what exactly does that represent, packages installed by default?
[06:35] <al2o3-cr> Twelve-60: tasksel --task-packages server | sort
[06:36] <Twelve-60> so im not familiar with all those packages, are they pretty minimal?
[06:36] <Twelve-60> al2o3-cr: thanks
[06:36] <al2o3-cr> Twelve-60: np
[06:37] <al2o3-cr> yeah that pretty damn minimal
[06:41] <Matsy> Twelve-60: it really doesn't get more minimum than that
[06:44] <ruztek> hello
[06:46] <DarrenGao> hey
[06:47] <ruztek> how are ya darren
[06:47] <DarrenGao> do you have any problem with ubuntu
[06:47] <ruztek> no not at all im running mint at the moment which uses ubuntu
[06:48] <xangua> !mint
[06:48] <Matsy> He might not be searching support for mint
[06:48] <DarrenGao> mint is based on ubuntu, right ?
[06:48] <ruztek> im not actually searching for support at all just checking out irc
[06:49] <Matsy> Welcome then, ruztek!
[06:49] <ruztek> yea
[06:49] <Matsy> Don't get scared away by people directing you to other channels without any reason
[06:49] <DarrenGao> actually, i am using debian .
[06:49] <xangua> !ot
[06:49] <cfhowlett> DarrenGao, "based on ubuntu" yes.  supported here, no.
[06:50] <ruztek> no worries mate this is pretty cool im currently using weechat-curses
[06:50] <ruztek> for irc
[06:55] <l9> kodi issue: kodi dosent read /home/user/.ssh/config on ubuntu anyone that have had the same issue ?
[06:59] <DarrenGao> !ubuntu
[07:00] <Twelve-60> Matsy: all good then, thanks
[07:00] <Twelve-60> Matsy: we're running these slow little robots, so I don't want things running that I don't need xD
[07:02] <Ikundu> 103580
[07:03] <l9> 103581
[07:07] <PHPLearner> the guy who helped me
[07:07] <PHPLearner> with my Active Directory Server problem
[07:07] <PHPLearner> thank you so much
[07:08] <al2o3-cr> PHPLearner: np :)
[07:09] <PHPLearner> al2o3-cr: man only manage to help me out on that problem
[07:09] <PHPLearner> earlier I got solutions like let it be
[07:09] <PHPLearner> its not an issue at all
[07:09] <PHPLearner> but you deliver solution man
[07:09] <PHPLearner> may I know how you manage to come up with that solution
[07:10] <PHPLearner> I am a newbie to linux so I want to learn from you
[07:10] <PHPLearner> :)
[07:10] <l9> the /etc/ssh/ssh_config is that for all ssh and .ssh/config should be used for user specific options or?
[07:10] <al2o3-cr> all it's doing is setting it to manual
[07:10] <al2o3-cr> PHPLearner: that fail was nothing to worry about anyway ;P
[07:11] <PHPLearner> al2o3-cr: oh ok
[07:11] <PHPLearner> I just do not like seeing it
[07:11] <al2o3-cr> lol
[07:11] <PHPLearner> it a bit creepy
[07:11] <PHPLearner> I do not want my linux booting up with those fail messages hanging around
[07:12] <l9> PHPLearner there is alot more scary things in there than acouple of fail messages
[07:12] <PHPLearner> is it
[07:12] <PHPLearner> like what
[07:12] <l9> you will see it one day
[07:13] <l9> j/k with you and beeing a dick
[07:14] <przemek> Hello how to modify this command to not show a CPU state?
[07:14] <przemek> top -u root -b -n 1 | awk 'NR>6 && NR<13 {printf "%6s %-4s %-4s %-s\n",$1,$2,$9,$NF}' > file.csv
[07:16] <al2o3-cr> przemek: top -u root -b -n 1 | awk 'NR>6 && NR<13 {printf "%6s %-4s %-s\n",$1,$2,$NF}' > file.csv
[07:17] <przemek> al2o3-cr:  Man you are my hero
[07:17] <przemek> do you know how to add to this command status ? 'S' ?
[07:17] <przemek> status of process of TOP
[07:18] <al2o3-cr> one sec
[07:20] <al2o3-cr> przemek: top -u root -b -n 1 | awk 'NR>6 && NR<13 {printf "%6s %-4s %-4s %-s\n",$1,$2,$8,$NF}' > file.csv
[07:20] <nanoz> hi
[07:21] <przemek> al2o3-cr:  Thank You
[07:21] <al2o3-cr> ;P
[07:21] <przemek> and one more time Thank you.
[07:25] <przemek> al2o3-cr:  I'm sorry but I have one more question to You. How in this command provide all existing processes?
[07:25] <przemek> of user
[07:26] <al2o3-cr> przemek: how do you mean?
[07:27] <przemek> al2o3-cr:  currently I see only  5 proccesses
[07:27] <przemek> I would like to see all proccesses of user
[07:28] <al2o3-cr> przemek: change NR<13 something bigger
[07:28] <przemek> I will do
[07:28] <przemek> Thank you
[07:28] <al2o3-cr> NR<1000
[07:30] <PHPLearner> what is the best distro in linux
[07:30] <PHPLearner> that is free
[07:30] <PHPLearner> so red hat is no longer included
[07:30] <cfhowlett> PHPLearner, let me think (checks channel),um, UBUNTU
[07:31] <PHPLearner> lol
[07:40] <[twisti]> it seems like since yesterday, everything on our LTS 12.04 server that is password related has become wonky
[07:41] <[twisti]> was there any problematic update or something like that ?
[07:41] <cfhowlett> [twisti], #ubuntu-server might know more
[07:41] <[twisti]> thanks
[07:43] <InsaneNutter> happy fun umbrella juice and anus bars
[07:46] <Fjorgynn> what
[07:51] <DP314> not used IRC before... please can i ask for some help?
[07:51] <cfhowlett> !ask | DP314
[07:52] <Fjorgynn> dpkg-reconfigure world
[07:52] <[twisti]> oh, this explains why everything is wonky:
[07:52] <[twisti]> 871G    /var/log/jenkins
[07:52] <[twisti]> bad jenkins! bad!
[07:53] <Fjorgynn> :D
[07:53] <DP314> i've unpacked a tar.gz file... can't ./configure anything
[07:53] <DP314> there is no help or readme file
[07:53] <basil2x> try autoconf
[07:53] <l9> make configure?
[07:55] <antivirtel> Do someone has any idea about these bugs of mine: #1451130
[07:55] <antivirtel> Do someone has any idea about these bugs of mine: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-mount/+bug/1451130 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/fingerprint-gui/+bug/1451123 ?
[07:55] <antivirtel> lp:1451130
[07:55] <DP314> how do i put outputs from terminal in pastebin?
[07:56] <cfhowlett> DP314, command | pastebinit
[07:56] <antivirtel> DP314, select, right click, copy?
[07:56] <Fjorgynn> or >
[07:56] <Fjorgynn> cat /dev/zero > temp.txt
[07:56] <Fjorgynn> probably not a good idea to cat /dev/zero to a temp.txt file tough
[07:57] <Matsy> DP314: pipe it to nc termbin.com 9999
[07:57] <l9> why should you do that
[07:57] <Matsy> DP314: so, for instance: ping 8.8.8.8 | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:57] <Matsy> You will get a termbin link
[07:57] <DP314> ok... can anyone see it now?
[07:57] <Matsy> You didnt link anything yet?
[07:58] <DP314> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10975831/
[07:58] <guest82954> Hi.
[07:58] <Matsy> DP314: Can you do an ls -al?
[07:58] <al2o3-cr> Fjorgynn: just tested cat /dev/zero > test.txt for 10 secs 4.3GB hehe
[07:59] <Matsy> al2o3-cr: That's a pretty fast disk you got there, SSD?
[07:59] <al2o3-cr> Matsy: yep
[07:59] <Fjorgynn> al2o3-cr: yeah
[07:59] <Fjorgynn> awesome
[07:59] <DP314> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10975845/
[08:00] <al2o3-cr> 4.3G -rw-r--r--  1 root root 4.3G May  3 08:57 test.txt
[08:00] <Matsy> No need to configure anything DP314, I think. Can you try java -jar rm5.jar
[08:01] <DP314> Matsy - from that directory?
[08:01] <Matsy> Yeah
[08:01] <al2o3-cr> yeah it's a jar file
[08:01] <basil2x> If that works, you can make an icon to do that automagically. ;)
[08:02] <Matsy> I'm surprised a Sattelite L300 survives this long, though
[08:02] <Matsy> Satellite*
[08:02] <DP314> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10975860/
[08:03] <Matsy> DP314: Can you share the .tar.gz file?
[08:03] <DP314> via paste bin?
[08:03] <Matsy> DP314: Any file upload service, like Google Drive
[08:03] <DP314> hey I love my Toshiba... she rocks!
[08:06] <basil2x> http://tech.cochrane.org/revman/download  <--- RevMan5
[08:06] <basil2x> I tried it... the .jar appears to indeed be corrupt.
[08:07] <al2o3-cr> revman5 seems to windows/macosx only
[08:07] <Matsy> I just opened it:
[08:07] <Matsy> Just open it like ./Rev Man 53
[08:07] <DP314> does that mean I'm never going to be able to run it?
[08:07] <Matsy> Nah, DP314, it'll be alright
[08:08]  * al2o3-cr put ya glasses on
[08:08] <Matsy> Run this: ./Review\ Manager\ 5.3
[08:09] <Matsy> It's using a proprietary JAR-format, that can only be initialised by the custom JVM
[08:09] <Mazhdee> Hello everyone
[08:09] <DP314> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10975885/
[08:09] <basil2x> Uh-oh... my JVM appears to be too high.
[08:09] <Mazhdee> can you posts screenshots on this channel ? via imgur for ex
[08:09] <Matsy> Add a space, DP314
[08:09] <Matsy> So, backslash space
[08:10] <Matsy> And not space backslash
[08:10] <Fjorgynn> :)
[08:10] <al2o3-cr> DP314: ./Review\ Manager\ 5.3
[08:10] <DP314> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-rDK-Rl033ARXAtRFRNaEJ5Y1E/view?usp=sharing
[08:10] <Matsy> Yeah
[08:11] <Matsy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10975889/
[08:11] <Matsy> Like that
[08:11] <Fjorgynn> what is revman?
[08:11] <Matsy> Fjorgynn: I have no idea. I opened it, and it allows me to write reviews
[08:11] <Fjorgynn> you must have that to write reviews?
[08:11] <Matsy> inb4 Macbook Pro comments
[08:11] <Matsy> in a ubuntu channel
[08:12] <Matsy> Fjorgynn: Apparently :p
[08:12] <Matsy> Fjorgynn: The context is unclear, but the application works like this
[08:12] <DP314> systematic reviews (medical stuff)
[08:12] <Fjorgynn> need a new pc
[08:12] <caz> gn
[08:13] <basil2x> It seems to want old Java... My 1.8 is too high.
[08:13] <Matsy> basil2x: I have 1.8 as well
[08:13] <basil2x> Hmmmm
[08:13] <Fjorgynn> use a mac osx virtualbox or something or downgrade (not recommended) java
[08:13] <antivirtel> !bug 1451130
[08:13] <Matsy> Oh, but OSX seems to use 1.6 internally when the application requires it
[08:13] <Matsy> That's nifty
[08:14] <Matsy> antivirtel: I really can't help you there. There are so many possible causes
[08:14] <basil2x> This is a Fedora Machine.  My Ubuntu Laptop is downstairs.
[08:14] <DP314> wow! seems to work... how to I pin an icon to the sidebar for this program?
[08:14] <Mazhdee> Okay since everyone's lazy to answer me I'll just post it here :) http://i.imgur.com/OfTrhxL.png & http://imgur.com/vWO7QIF
[08:15] <basil2x> Is there an icon there now?
[08:15] <Mazhdee> I'm trying to add an ufw rule with ufw KDE gui
[08:15] <Matsy> DP314: Install the application 'alacarte'
[08:15] <Matsy> And use it to add it to the sidebar
[08:15] <Mazhdee> and that's what I get
[08:15] <antivirtel> Matsy, at least something I can start debugging with? A program, library disable, reconfigure?
[08:15] <Mazhdee> I want to allow all trafic for interface tun0 but it doesn't allow me to do that apparently
[08:15] <DP314> is that a separate application?
[08:16] <Matsy> DP314: Yeah
[08:16] <Matsy> Wait, I'll write up a desktop entry for you
[08:16] <Matsy> You can just copy that to your /usr/share/applications folder
[08:16] <InsaneNutter> 7521
[08:17] <InsaneNutter> goddamn cat!
[08:17] <Mazhdee> My soul is very hurt by your indifference :( goodbye
[08:17] <InsaneNutter> ?
[08:18] <DP314> matsy... thanks very much for all the assistance. i love ubuntu but am a total noob
[08:18] <basil2x> noobility will fade with experience.
[08:20] <Matsy> DP314: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10975928/
[08:21] <Matsy> Save that to a file called 'revman.desktop'
[08:21] <DP314> matsy... do i paste that into terminal or is that for alacarte?
[08:21] <Matsy> Oh, no need for alacarte with this way
[08:21] <Matsy> Alacarte is just a GUI for this process
[08:22] <Matsy> Make sure to chmod a+x revman.desktop as well
[08:22] <DP314> so... the stuff in pastebin, what do i do with that?
[08:22] <Matsy> DP314: Copy it to a file called revman.desktop, and put that file on your desktop
[08:23] <Fjorgynn> wy
[08:24] <DP314> right... chmod? no idea. please can you guide me step by step
[08:26] <Matsy> DP314, execute this: wget -O ~/Desktop/revman.desktop https://gist.githubusercontent.com/anonymous/2119e62322a33045d7e4/raw/aa31ff1923dbd7e5633774b22c59ca8abb1af12d/gistfile1.txt && chmod a+x ~/Desktop/revman.desktop
[08:26] <Matsy> Just copy and paste that, and you're good to go
[08:27] <basil2x> He should learn chmod.  It can fix all sortsa hassles.
[08:28] <Matsy> basil2x: Most applications he will download will automatically be chmodded correctly
[08:28] <basil2x> True.
[08:29] <Matsy> basil2x: chmod can be quite weird, especially when involving the numeric modes
[08:29] <DP314> 1000 thanks
[08:29] <Matsy> DP314: Does it work?
[08:30] <Matsy> You should be able to double click it. I don't know if I picked the right icon though
[08:30] <Matsy> Might be really distorted
[08:30] <basil2x> chmod -R 775 /run/media/basil
[08:30] <DP314> yes... all good. I won't actually know if it works till later (its for a course I'm studying)
[08:30] <Matsy> I'm no fan of the octal modes :p
[08:30] <s_spiff> anyone here who has experience with ati/amd graphic cards?
[08:30] <DP314> but the program opens and looks functional
[08:30] <Matsy> DP314: Great!
[08:31] <basil2x> The numbery ones are all I know.
[08:31] <Zerkalerka> hey is there a way in terminal to reset my sound card.. sometimes when I am playing CSGO and I will throw a grenade and all of a sudden my sound is stuck on a loop and I can't hear anything else.. lol
[08:31] <Zerkalerka> feel like I just need to alt-tab and type something in terminal to fix it.. but I have to quit the game and get back in, in order to fix the sound in the game
[08:32] <bip> Buongiorno!
[08:32] <Matsy> basil2x: Equivalent: chmod ug=rwx, a=rx /run/media/basil
[08:32] <Matsy> Easier to explain to people
[08:32] <basil2x> URGH*
[08:32] <basil2x> that looks uglee
[08:32] <Matsy> 'user and group have read write execute, all people have read and execute'
[08:33] <basil2x> You forgot the recursion switch. ;P
[08:33] <InsaneNutter> can anyone here help me with this error? libGL: Can't open configuration file /home/ben/.drirc: No such file or directory.
[08:33] <Matsy> basil2x: Rookie mistake :p
[08:34] <InsaneNutter> what is .drirc ?
[08:34] <Matsy> DRI is the Direct Rendering Infrastructure
[08:34] <Matsy> The drirc file is a configuration file for that
[08:35] <Matsy> Two locations: /etc/drirc (global file) and ~/.drirc (override file)
[08:35] <InsaneNutter> is it normal for it to be missing?
[08:35] <Matsy> InsaneNutter: I'm a shell kinda guy, I really don't know
[08:35] <Matsy> This is all I know about DRI
[08:35] <InsaneNutter> it is missing in all of the folders for root and me
[08:36] <Matsy> I didn't know people still used Mesa though
[08:36] <InsaneNutter> well, I do.
[08:37] <Matsy> InsaneNutter: Maybe this can help you: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ConfigurationInfrastructure/
[08:41] <InsaneNutter> Matsy: do you know how to configure Mesa DRI ?
[08:41] <Matsy> InsaneNutter: Nope. I only use Ubuntu with a shell, not with a GUI
[08:41] <Matsy> I hate the shitty anti-aliasing in Ubuntu too much for that
[08:41] <Matsy> (The fonts)
[08:45] <Matsy> It's the only thing keeping me from Ubuntu, the fonts
[08:45] <flog> Do i need to add another repo to apt-get to be able to install older precompiled kernels?
[08:46] <Matsy> flog: How old are we talking about
[08:46] <Matsy> 1.0?
[08:46] <flog> 3.8
[08:47] <Matsy> Use the kernel mainline for that
[08:47] <flog> Maybe some backstory here. I've got a logitech G920 webcamera with hardware accelerated h.264 but when i stream the device with v4l2 the stream stutters. I read/heard somewhere that it was due to compatibily issues with the v4l2 and the kernel when using h.264.
[08:47] <Matsy> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[08:48] <Matsy> flog: https://wiki.matthiasbock.net/index.php/Logitech_C920,_streaming_H.264
[08:48] <tete_> hi, i am having a problem with my 144hz lcd. when i switch to 144hz its flickering when i am doing something, when i use 120hz its working as expected. on windows its working with 144hz too without any problems
[08:49] <tete_> can someone tell me what could be the problem and how to fix that?
[08:49] <Dro__> this command remove duplicate lines from a text file: sort input.txt | uniq > output.txt , i want to make it remove duplicate 3 column .. how can i do that please ?
[08:49] <Matsy> Especially the CedarX recommendation seems like that'd solve it
[08:49] <tete_> graphic card is a radeon r9 280x
[08:49] <flog> Matsy: Thats the guide i've been using.
[08:49] <Matsy> Dro__: 'Duplicatie 3 column'?
[08:50] <Matsy> Dro__: Pastebin input.txt please
[08:50] <Dro__> Matsy, yes my lines are a:b:c:d:.....
[08:50] <Dro__> Matsy, its a channels list ,  all line are a:b:c:d:e:f:g
[08:51] <Matsy> I still don't know what a duplicate 3 column is?
[08:51] <Dro__> let say i have a:b:c:d:e and a:b:c:e:g: and a:b:c:r:t , i want to just keep one line of them
[08:52] <Matsy> So, when 3 columns overlap, ignore the rest?
[08:52] <Dro__> Matsy, just keep 1 lines of unique 3 column
[08:52] <Matsy> There's probably some awk way of doing this, but I don't know
[08:53] <Matsy> No hero in text parsing
[08:53] <Dro__> haha ok thanks anyway :P
[08:53] <Matsy> Dro__: This is why I got proficient in python
[08:54] <octopiketty> hello, I am having troubles with OpenGL over SSH. can anyone help?
[08:54] <Dro__> Matsy, i know that its possible to order lines by columns using sort.. but i can't do that with uniq :/
[08:55] <Matsy> octopiketty: What's the issue?
[08:55] <tete_> there is a problem in the free radeon driver when using 144hz. i switched now to the proprietary one and it works
[08:55] <Matsy> tete_: Yeah, always use proprietary drivers
[08:55] <tete_> serious?
[08:55] <Matsy> tete_: Don't know why people would want to use free drivers
[08:56] <octopiketty> Matsy: I get these errors when I try to run a program that uses OpenGL to render 3D objects: http://pastebin.com/wKWVDwYf
[08:56] <tete_> because they are free and could be improved?
[08:56] <octopiketty> Matsy: XForwarding itself seems to work fine, I manage to open non-OpenGL programs.
[08:56] <Matsy> tete_: And almost always perform significantly worse than the proprietary ones
[08:56] <tete_> i prefer free/gpl stuff, and thats really sad that the free driver doesnt work
[08:56] <octopiketty> Matsy: OpenGL works on both client and host separately.
[08:56] <tete_> hm
[08:57] <octopiketty> Matsy:  I am using the nvidia-346 drivers on the client. errors first arose when I updated client from 14.04 to 15.04.
[08:58] <Matsy> octopiketty: Can't help you there then, sorry
[08:58] <Matsy> Driver issues require contextual knowledge
[08:58] <octopiketty> which I shall be happy to provide.
[08:58] <Matsy> octopiketty: On my side :p
[08:58] <octopiketty> GF119M [NVS 4200] is my graphics card. it's a Dell Latitude 6520E
[08:58] <octopiketty> oh, ok.
[08:58] <octopiketty> shucks.
[08:58] <Matsy> octopiketty: I'm unfamiliar with nvidia drivers.
[08:59] <Matsy> octopiketty: Because well, the fonts in Linux.
[08:59] <octopiketty> I think this is a problem with some OpenGL links being wrong, but I don't understand how this works.
[09:01] <InsaneNutter> Matsy: are you retarded?!? I CAN'T USE PROPERITARY DRIVERS BECAUSE I HAVE AN UN-SUPPORTED GPU, YOU JERK
[09:01] <InsaneNutter> JESUS!
[09:01] <tete_> lol
[09:01] <Matsy> It's sunday man
[09:01] <Matsy> Chill out
[09:02] <InsaneNutter> Does RS480 Mean Anything to You?
[09:02] <flog> Matsy: well first 3.8 i tried kernel paniced on boot :p
[09:02] <tete_> InsaneNutter, take a look at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6vLAa-kylM
[09:02] <tete_> :P
[09:02] <InsaneNutter> and that is?
[09:02] <Matsy> InsaneNutter: It's ATI; should avoid that anyway
[09:02] <tete_> it will be your emotional rescue ;)
[09:02] <Matsy> InsaneNutter: I'm a mac user for non-server environments
[09:03] <flog> InsaneNutter: no but RS485 do.
[09:03] <InsaneNutter> what other Linux Distros Can I Use That Work With ATI Hardware?
[09:03] <Matsy> www.microsoft.com/windows
[09:03] <tete_> i had problems with ati drivers at my laptop too
[09:03] <InsaneNutter> yeah?
[09:03] <tete_> i used an old ubuntu version then, guess it was 9.04 or such
[09:04] <InsaneNutter> i do'nt want Windows
[09:04] <InsaneNutter> don't*
[09:04] <Matsy> Then, I'd suggest spending 30$ to get an nvidia card
[09:04] <tete_> can be a real PITA such problems...
[09:04] <flog> ReactOS?
[09:04] <InsaneNutter> my system is an old HP Pavilion A1250n
[09:04] <Matsy> Lol, ReactOS
[09:04] <InsaneNutter> really?
[09:04] <flog> Matsy: its not windows :)
[09:04] <InsaneNutter> will it work?
[09:04] <basil2x> HaikuOS might.
[09:05] <Matsy> Are you kidding me, an A1250n
[09:05] <InsaneNutter> HaikiOS?
[09:05] <flog> basil2x: Plan9!
[09:05] <Matsy> Does it even have internet?
[09:05] <InsaneNutter> sounds like a challenge
[09:05] <InsaneNutter> that's how i'm talking to you...
[09:05] <Matsy> Does it have a turbo button?
[09:05] <InsaneNutter> it has integrated ethernet.
[09:05] <InsaneNutter> no
[09:05] <basil2x> Oh, dear.
[09:05] <Matsy> Booting on floppy disks can be tiring yeah
[09:06] <InsaneNutter> Matsy: stop Trolling !
[09:06] <basil2x> I think it's time for breakfast.
[09:06] <InsaneNutter> it is 6 am here
[09:06] <flog> Matsy: would i be better of compiling the kernel than using a precompiled?
[09:06] <Matsy> flog: Probably, yeah
[09:06] <Matsy> InsaneNutter: Were you waiting for your machine to boot, before sleeping?
[09:06] <Matsy> Could explain the 6am on that machine
[09:06] <InsaneNutter> LOL, i could run Android-x86
[09:06] <InsaneNutter> or ubuntu snappy
[09:07] <Matsy> If you start at 11PM, it will probably be booted at 6am
[09:07] <InsaneNutter> is snappy built for legacy systems?
[09:07] <basil2x> Puppy is for legacy and cheap systems
[09:07] <Matsy> Snappy is built for modular systems
[09:07] <InsaneNutter> it doesn't sound legacy-freindly
[09:07] <Matsy> It isn't.
[09:07] <Matsy> Maybe you could try Ubuntu 3.04
[09:07] <Matsy> Probably the latest release supporting your machine
[09:07] <basil2x> Claims to run in only 256MB ram, puppy.
[09:08] <InsaneNutter> does puppy linux have x64 support?
[09:08] <Matsy> Yes.
[09:08] <InsaneNutter> i have 3 GB DDR400
[09:08] <basil2x> I think so
[09:08] <Matsy> Don't use Ubuntu Snappy
[09:08] <Matsy> it's not right for your use case
[09:08] <InsaneNutter> okay, i won't.
[09:08] <basil2x> Should get on like a house afire with Puppy, then
[09:08] <InsaneNutter> okay
[09:08] <basil2x> You can even try it before you install it!
[09:09] <InsaneNutter> it still has ATI IGP GPU
[09:09] <InsaneNutter> it is the gpu that is bogging it down...
[09:09] <InsaneNutter> i'll have to try it...
[09:09] <Matsy> It's probably not only the GPU
[09:10] <Matsy> Didn't know DDR400 survived the second world war though
[09:10] <Matsy> I guess you really learn something new every day
[09:11] <basil2x> OI!  I still have a 128MB Compaq somewhere.
[09:11] <basil2x> I think it's propping up a bookshelf inna garage.
[09:11] <Matsy> InsaneNutter: Did you defragment your computer recently?
[09:12] <azizLIGHT> how do i make a custom sound play for 'beep' ? i already tried alias beep="paplay file.ogg" but this is only useful when a program actually runs beep, and thats never. i need something that replaces echo -e '\a' ... any ideas?
[09:12] <InsaneNutter> ...
[09:12] <bekks> azizLIGHT: You cant replace that, since there is no command to do so.
[09:12] <azizLIGHT> bekks: ok, what can i do then
[09:13] <bekks> azizLIGHT: Nothing.
[09:13] <azizLIGHT> im trying to make terminal bell noises actually make noises
[09:13] <basil2x> Get used to the beep
[09:13] <azizLIGHT> i dont hear any beep
[09:13] <azizLIGHT> theres nothing
[09:13] <bekks> azizLIGHT: You cannot change that.
[09:13] <basil2x> Nor do I
[09:13] <azizLIGHT> so echo -e '\a' is supposed to do nothing?
[09:13] <Matsy> azizLIGHT: You can change it. Do you use pulseaudio by any chance?
[09:14] <al2o3-cr> azizLIGHT: echo -e "\a" will make a sound in xterm
[09:14] <azizLIGHT> yes i do use pulseaudio Matsy
[09:14] <bekks> Matsy: Since when does pulseaudio recognize a shell beep?
[09:14] <Matsy> since 2007
[09:14] <azizLIGHT> al2o3-cr: it doesnt do anything for me in terminal (default terminal app) in 14.04
[09:14] <azizLIGHT> i hear nothing and i miss everything
[09:14] <Matsy> azizLIGHT: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=607393#c15
[09:14] <bekks> Matsy: So tell us how to use pulseaudio with a shell beep.
[09:15] <Matsy> bekks: Just did
[09:15] <Matsy> Replace Tear.wav with whatever heavy metal song you want playing
[09:15] <azizLIGHT> hehe
[09:15] <azizLIGHT> ok ill try this
[09:15] <azizLIGHT> thanks Matsy
[09:15] <Matsy> Make sure it is a wav-file though
[09:16] <Matsy> Don't expect it to play your lossless flac files
[09:16] <flog> Matsy: this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U_R6tJfr-M
[09:16] <basil2x> *wav*??
[09:16] <bekks> Matsy: No, you didnt. you shouwed us how to make xterm bells being generated by pulse audio. Take a console (ctrl alt f1) and try to do the same, it wont work.
[09:16] <basil2x> is that still a legal file extension?
[09:16] <Matsy> CTRL+ALT+F1 is not a regular shell
[09:16] <bekks> Matsy: How does the shell running in that pty differ from the shell running in xterm?
[09:16] <bekks> Matsy: There is no difference.
[09:17] <bagginsDK> Hello! I would like to ask if there is any detailed tutorial on how to properly partitioned 2 hard disk on Ubuntu server installation.
[09:17] <bekks> Matsy: xterm is a pulseaudio client, while the pty on console 1 isnt. thats the difference.
[09:17] <basil2x> Properly is a matter of preference.
[09:17] <Matsy> bekks: No need to get all worked up man
[09:17] <jpds> bagginsDK: That depends entire on how you want it partitioned
[09:18] <jpds> bagginsDK: Also, #ubuntu-server.
[09:19] <Matsy> I'd just go with the LVM-suggestion in the Ubuntu Server installer
[09:19] <Matsy> That works for 99% of the use cases
[09:20] <azizLIGHT> Matsy: what about this: http://superuser.com/a/44865
[09:21] <bagginsDK> jpds, Matsy, i have a hard disk with same data and i don't want to format it and lose them. This drive already has a ubuntu installation and i think i mess up the boot configurations
[09:21] <bekks> azizLIGHT: that implements a shell "Bell()" function which does not replace the shell builtin beep played by the pc speaker.
[09:22] <azizLIGHT> i dont know what that means in regards to terminal beeping orn ot
[09:22] <azizLIGHT> terminal app
[09:22] <bekks> azizLIGHT: It wont help.
[09:25] <bagginsDK> Also, can someone descrive briefly what is the concept of LVM? Thank you!
[09:25] <Matsy> bekks: No, it doesn't implement a shell Bell() function
[09:25] <Matsy> bekks: Did you even look at the xkbevd part?
[09:25] <bekks> bagginsDK: The concept is the abstraction of disks and partitions from the usage as storage space.
[09:26] <Matsy> azizLIGHT: It might work, try it. Never used it myself.
[09:26] <bekks> Matsy: I did. "x" implies that it is using an X-based application being used as pulseaudio client. Which technicall isnt possible for a shell running in a non-X-based terminal emulator.
[09:26] <bagginsDK> bekks, thank you
[09:27] <azizLIGHT> how do i restart pulseadui
[09:27] <azizLIGHT> pulse audio
[09:29] <xchatter> Hello.
[09:30] <Fjorgynn> I am hungry
[09:30] <Fjorgynn> is the encryption option in the xubuntu installer good?
[09:31] <azizLIGHT> Matsy: this worked for me https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/537703/comments/24
[09:31] <azizLIGHT> i got sound now finally
[09:31] <azizLIGHT> god!
[09:31] <Matsy> azizLIGHT: nice!
[09:31] <azizLIGHT> AH THE HIGHLGUHTS they worK!!
[09:31] <azizLIGHT> the sound !
[09:31] <azizLIGHT> finally
[09:32] <xchatter> Since yesterday I am no longer able to enter Japanese input oon Kubuntu 15.04. It was working for many years. Does anybody know if yesterday something was changed? If I add the Japanese language in the locale settings the entire KDE GUI switched into Japanese after the next login, but I don't want that. I only want to be able to enter Japanese characters. Any idea?
[09:32] <Matsy> azizLIGHT: I'm glad! bekks, are you seeing this?
[09:32]  * Matsy hides
[09:32] <azizLIGHT> ok now imma change the cute bubble noise
[09:32] <azizLIGHT> to something else... like what you sugested the metal
[09:32] <azizLIGHT> :D
[09:40] <ruslan_osmanov> Hi, I've tried to install ubuntu 14.02 on a netbook hard drive partition (/dev/sda5) which is placed after Windows partition. Installation succeeded except the bootloader. GRUB failed to install on /dev/sda. Now Windows loader ignores Ubuntu, of course. How do I fix the bootloader?
[09:40] <octopiketty> still having problems with OpenGL 3D rendering over SSH. this is the output of glxinfo with debugging: http://pastebin.com/MEAAJHKP
[09:40] <octopiketty> my ubuntu version is 15.04 for both client and host.
[09:40] <martyna> Hi, yesterday I have installed Xubuntu instead of Unity - how do I check that using command prompt?
[09:40] <martyna> I've tried    cat /etc/os-release    lsb_release -a   cat /etc/issue
[09:41] <martyna> and none of these shows that it is Xubuntu
[09:41] <cfhowlett> martyna, normal.  it should state "ubuntu"
[09:44] <brainwash> octopiketty: I suggest that you ask in ##OpenGL or #dri-devel
[09:44] <al2o3-cr> martyna: echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP
[09:45] <octopiketty> brainwash: it's an Ubuntu problem.
[09:45] <cfhowlett> martyna, 1.  Unity IS NOT the OS, it's the desktop environment.
[09:46] <octopiketty> I suppose I could try.
[09:47] <Fjorgynn> :)
[09:47] <Fjorgynn> lol unity
[09:47] <martyna> I know
[09:48] <martyna> cfhowlett, and how do I check whether Unity is there somewhere still?
[09:48] <martyna> bacuse I'm not sure whether I have replaced it
[09:48] <martyna> or just installed xubuntu alongside
[09:49] <cfhowlett> martyna, logout.  click on selection icon.  select ubuntu/unity session.  login
[09:49] <brainwash> octopiketty: well, it's a very specific one. chances are low that someone (currently reading this) knows an anwser
[09:49] <martyna> no I cannot do that
[09:49] <martyna> there is no Unity section any more
[09:49] <martyna> it goes to Xfce immediately
[09:49] <cfhowlett> martyna, then you installed xubuntu.
[09:50] <octopiketty> brainwash: problems with OpenGL is specific?
[09:50] <martyna> ok thank you
[09:50] <cfhowlett> martyna, if you want, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:50] <brainwash> octopiketty: opengl over ssh is I guess
[09:51] <octopiketty> it isn't.
[09:51] <martyna> no I don't but thanks
[09:51] <bip> cfhowlett: is a good idea installa ubuntu on xfce ?
[09:51] <bip> :S
[09:51] <bip> *install
[09:51] <cfhowlett> bip, people do.   I suspect they have commitment issues, but that's just my opinion.
[09:51] <brainwash> octopiketty: ##OpenGL seems to be a better place to ask then
[09:52] <bip> I think on a system only one DE ;-) xfce or ubuntu or KDE or ... ;-) install more DE isn't a good idea
[09:55] <derrzzaa> hey guys, after a failed update and a reboot I get a missing disk error and it falls back to the builtin shell. what's the first thing I should try to troubleshoot?
[09:55] <newke> hi. i want to write an alias. i need arguments passed after alias name. whats the variable name of it?
[09:55] <madebymarkca> u want bash script
[09:55] <newke> hmm
[09:55] <xchatter> Since yesterday I am no longer able to enter Japanese input oon Kubuntu 15.04. It was working for many years. Does anybody know if yesterday something was changed? If I add the Japanese language in the locale settings the entire KDE GUI switched into Japanese after the next login, but I don't want that. I only want to be able to enter Japanese characters. Any idea?
[09:57] <brainwash> xchatter: did you already ask in #kubuntu?
[09:57] <brainwash> which is the official kubuntu support channel
[09:58] <bekks> Matsy: I did see it, yes. And it underlines the point that the sound he is hearing now is generated by pulseudio using _gnome_-terminal as a client. He still will have no sound in a PTY.
[09:58] <xchatter> brainwash: no, good point, thank you
[10:02] <MagePsycho> has anyone used powerline shell?
[10:03] <octopiketty> I am trying use OpenGL via SSH and since upgrading from 14.04 to 15.04 I am having problems.
[10:04] <bekks> How do you try to use it?
[10:04] <octopiketty> by opening a program that uses OpenGL for rendering.
[10:04] <bekks> octopiketty: How...? :)
[10:04] <octopiketty> this is the output of glxinfo with debugging: http://pastebin.com/MEAAJHKP
[10:05] <octopiketty> bekks: it doesn't matter.
[10:05] <octopiketty> I reproduce the error when running anything that uses OpenGL including the output in that pastebin.
[10:05] <bekks> octopiketty: If you dont want to provide information, I am unable to help you. Good luck.
[10:06] <bekks> octopiketty: And your local X server isnt DRI2 capable, as the error messages states in its first line.
[10:06] <octopiketty> how do I make it DRI2 capable?
[10:06] <iFach404> Hi
[10:06] <octopiketty> it was previously to my update, I am using relatively updated drivers. I have looked at symbolic links to my GLX libraries and everything appears, to me, to be in order.
[10:07] <octopiketty> I am currently using the nvidia-349 driver, but I have tried nvidia-340 and nvidia-346 as well with no luck.
[10:08] <iFach404> I was try to use dual boot and its failed -_- and all of my data in my harddisk was deleted
[10:08] <octopiketty> my hardware is GF119M [NVS 4200M] on a Dell Latitude E6520.
[10:11] <octopiketty> bekks: so, do you know what might be the problem?
[10:14] <MagePsycho> octopiketty, iFach404, bekks: have guys used dotfiles? http://www.dotfiles.org/
[10:14] <bekks> MagePsycho: No, why would I?
[10:15] <MagePsycho> octopiketty, iFach404, bekks: this will answer your Question http://code.tutsplus.com/tutorials/setting-up-a-mac-dev-machine-from-zero-to-hero-with-dotfiles--net-35449
[10:16] <bekks> octopiketty: Did you blacklist nouveau?
[10:16] <bekks> MagePsycho: Why would I look at a totally unrelated link?
[10:16] <octopiketty> bekks: no.
[10:18] <MagePsycho> bekks, no worries
[10:18] <octopiketty> bekks: not sure what blacklisting nouveau does.
[10:19] <MagePsycho> octopiketty, iFach404, bekks: and what about custom shell prompt using https://powerline.readthedocs.org/en/latest/index.html
[10:20] <lotuspsychje> !ot | MagePsycho
[10:21] <MagePsycho> lotuspsychje, thanks will use that channel
[10:21] <bekks> octopiketty: It prevents nouveau from being used.
[10:22] <bekks> octopiketty: Even if you installed nvidia 349, you may still be using nouveau.
[10:23] <octopiketty> bekks: I don't think I am.
[10:23] <octopiketty> when I tried to swap to nouveau I got very low resolutions. I don't have that now.
[10:24] <octopiketty> but I tried to blacklist nouveau.
[10:25] <octopiketty> I'll try a reboot for good measure.
[10:31] <azizLIGHT> bekks: btw the bell is working
[10:31] <azizLIGHT> i dunno why you were so adamant it wouldnt work?
[10:32] <octopiketty> blacklisting nouveau didn't do anything.
[10:33] <bekks> azizLIGHT: So logout, change to a PTY by pressing ctrl alt f1, login, and see if it works there, too. It will not.
[10:33] <azizLIGHT> bekks: i dont really need it there
[10:33] <azizLIGHT> bekks: i never use that anyway
[10:34] <azizLIGHT> i assumed when you said it wouldnt work, that it would work absolutely nowhere
[10:34] <azizLIGHT> that ws a bit misleading but maybe i didnt explain enough
[10:34] <bekks> azizLIGHT: No, I explained it multiple times, that the solution proposed depends on the used terminal emulator, not on the shell.
[10:35] <azizLIGHT> i guess. i dont know these words
[10:35] <octopiketty> bekks: any other ideas?
[10:37] <bekks> octopiketty: maybe this one helps: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2161981.html
[10:38] <ablest1980> ubuntu software center has steam
[10:38] <octopiketty> I've seen that before, but I don't know. I know the issue is likely broken symbolic links.
[10:39] <octopiketty> I just don't know how to fix it without breaking something else.
[10:39] <octopiketty> BRB, reboot.
[10:44] <octopiketty> I don't see anything obviously wrong in the .conf files in /etc/ld.so.conf
[10:45] <octopiketty> other than /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/mesa-egl being the sole line in x86_64-linux-gnu_EGL.conf.
[10:45] <octopiketty> is that supposed to be something NVIDIA-related instead of mesa?
[10:46] <nyanloutre> hi
[10:47] <nyanloutre> i have some problems with dm-cache
[10:47] <nyanloutre> i have installed ubuntu with the lvm option but when i want to set up a cache on ubuntu-vg/root the system dont boot
[10:48] <iFach404> Hi!
[10:48] <bekks> nyanloutre: How do you setup the cache?
[10:48] <nyanloutre> i have followed the lvmcache man
[10:49] <nyanloutre> it works but i can't reboot. he say the device doesn't exist
[10:49] <bekks> nyanloutre: How do you setup the cache, in particluar?
[10:50] <nyanloutre> i have the LV root wich is cached on a ssd
[10:51] <bekks> nyanloutre: Which commands are you using to setup the cache?
[10:51] <nyanloutre> lvcreate and lvconvert
[10:52] <bekks> nyanloutre: Can you finally state the EXACT commands you are using? I ased you four times now.
[10:53] <nyanloutre> OK sorry :-P wait a minute
[10:53] <octopiketty> still having problems with OpenGL 3D rendering over SSH. this is the output of glxinfo with debugging: http://pastebin.com/MEAAJHKP
[10:53] <nyanloutre_> lvcreate -n cache0 -L 110G vg /dev/sdb1
[10:54] <nyanloutre_> lvcreate -n cache0meta -L 200M vg /dev/sdb1
[10:54] <nyanloutre_> lvconvert --cachepool vg/cache0 --poolmetadata vg/cache0meta
[10:54] <nyanloutre_> lvconvert --type cache --cachepool vg/cache0 vg/root
[10:54] <nyanloutre_> it's all
[10:54] <nyanloutre_> just replace vg by ubuntu-vg it's a mistake
[10:55] <bekks> nyanloutre: Which kernel are you on?
[10:56] <nyanloutre_> the latest in ubuntu 15.04
[10:56] <GeorgeJ> Hello folks. I'm currently running 14.10 and am trying to install 15.04, however, when I boot from the USB stick, ubuntu seems to be looping on the login screen(I can hear the login sound playing repeatedly). What can I do to fix this?
[10:56] <jjeronimo> could someone help me with nvidia driver problems (black screen on boot) on kubuntu 15.04, never had problems before but since my upgrade I keep getting a black screen after rebooting twice (1st time boot the driver works), tried prurge nvidia* and reinstall using the driver manager
[10:56] <bekks> nyanloutre: Name the version.
[10:57] <exalt> Hello, i created an lvm of two disks, now i want to remove the disk i added, how would i do such a thing?
[10:58] <bekks> exalt: did you create a LVM mirror?
[10:58] <nyanloutre_> it's 3.19.0-15-generic
[10:58] <jjeronimo> GeorgeJ: https://www.google.nl/search?q=ubuntu+15.04+loop
[10:59] <nyanloutre_> GeorgeJ: i had the same it's because of the nvidia driver, uninstall them, install nouveau driver, switch back to nvidia when booted succesfully
[10:59] <GeorgeJ> jjeronimo: I've already read that. I've tried both ubuntu and xubutu and I have the same problem with both.
[11:00] <GeorgeJ> nyanloutre_: I'm on a live image, how might I do that? ctrl+shift+f1 didn't appear to work.
[11:01] <jjeronimo> GeorgeJ: Ah ok, strange, sorry no experiance with this kind of issue
[11:01] <nyanloutre_> boot in recovery mode and go to recovery console
[11:01] <bekks> !nomodeset | GeorgeJ
[11:01] <GeorgeJ> bekks: I was thinking of giving that a try, I'll see how it goes.
[11:02] <exalt> bekks: what is an LVM mirror? i did the following: http://askubuntu.com/questions/458476/adding-disks-with-lvm
[11:02] <nyanloutre_> for my problem i figured out that I need the packet thin-provisioning-tools to access the cached device in a live cd which doesn't install automaticaly but it didn't help to boot
[11:03] <bekks> exalt: A mirror is construct that contains the same data on both disks. Apparently you did not do that, so you cant remove the second disk without losing your volume group.
[11:03] <iFach404> can i chat to other user via Terminal?
[11:03] <nyanloutre_> if i remove the cache the system boot
[11:04] <tete_> i have a raid 1 which is encrypted by truecrypt. on fedora and windows i can open the encryption, but on ubuntu it is somehow not working: device-mapper: table: 252:2: crypt: Device lookup failed
[11:04] <nyanloutre_> is it a mmodule which is missing ?
[11:04] <tete_> iFach404, yes, there is a command line tool ... resp. many
[11:04] <bekks> nyanloutre: Yeah, it looks like the initrd is missing the module.
[11:04] <nyanloutre_> how can I fix that ?
[11:04] <iFach404> can you tell me about the command?
[11:04] <ubuntu005> hi
[11:05] <nyanloutre_> hi
[11:05] <iFach404> tete_ , can you tell me about the command?
[11:05] <exalt> bekks: does that mean losing all my data ?
[11:05] <bekks> exalt: Without a backup, yes, you will lose your data.
[11:05] <exalt> bekks: :(
[11:05] <tete_> iFach404, e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_%28software%29
[11:06] <bekks> exalt: So create a backup.
[11:06] <iFach404> tete_ , do you mean i can chat with other user with the internet connection?
[11:07] <jjeronimo> is there any way to see the previous boot logging?
[11:07] <tete_> no, talk is for logged in users only
[11:07] <tete_> what do you exactly need?
[11:07] <exalt> bekks: is there a way in which i can backup while keeping all my configuration i have already done, and if so which would you advice ?
[11:07] <bekks> !backup | exalt
[11:07] <ubuntu005> i have just one question about video driver geforce 8400 gs , i have read in the forum that some people get black screen when installing driver, my question is can i run ubuntu14 without proprietary video driver ?
[11:07] <bekks> ubuntu005: "Yes."
[11:07] <jjeronimo> ubuntu005: it's just slower
[11:07] <nyanloutre_> is there a command to chack any missing modules
[11:08] <jjeronimo> ubuntu005: I have the same problem
[11:08] <ubuntu005> thank you for ansver
[11:08] <bekks> nyanloutre: Nope. Just create your cache stuff, and rebuild the initramfs prior rebooting.
[11:09] <gour_> hello
[11:09] <nyanloutre_> to rebuild the initramfs, the command is update-initramfs -u ?
[11:09] <jjeronimo> ubuntu005: I' m going to try without enabling the microcode option, maybe that helps
[11:09] <jjeronimo> ubuntu005: brb
[11:10] <bekks> nyanloutre: Run it using sudo, yes.
[11:10] <nyanloutre_> ok thanks you ! I will try this
[11:11] <azizLIGHT> i did pulseaudio -k and now i dont see a panel icon for volume or music players. any advice how to get it back
[11:11] <azizLIGHT> i have restarted and logged out to see if it comes back, it didnt
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> !sound | azizLIGHT
[11:12] <nyanloutre_> see you in 10min !
[11:12] <azizLIGHT> thanks i see the setting was unchecked in the sound options
[11:14] <octopiketty> hi. I am experiencing some problems using OpenGL over SSH.
[11:14] <octopiketty> can anyone help me troubleshoot the issue?
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> octopiketty: you sure your video driver is installed correctly?
[11:14] <octopiketty> no.
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> octopiketty: doublecheck with sudo lshw -C video, whats behind driver=
[11:15] <octopiketty> but OpenGL is working fine locally and on the host.
[11:16] <octopiketty> it doesn't say driver anywhere.
[11:16] <octopiketty> oh sorry. yes, driver=nvidia.
[11:16] <octopiketty> I think the problem may be broken symlinks somewhere.
[11:16] <octopiketty> the problem arose when I upgraded from 14.04 to 15.04.
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> octopiketty: maybe try a driver switch from additional drivers section, to see if it makes any difference on your ssh
[11:17] <octopiketty> I tried all of those, but it didn't make any difference.
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> octopiketty: clean installs are reccomended mate
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> octopiketty: if you need stable, best stick to LTS
[11:17] <nyanloutre> :( it still dont boot
[11:17] <levan> how to john ubuntu-vn?
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> !lvm | nyanloutre
[11:17] <octopiketty> well, I thought I could figure this out.
[11:18] <cfhowlett> levan, /join #ubuntu-vn
[11:18] <levan> thank you
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> octopiketty: you can always try fix broken packages option from grub recoverymode
[11:19] <octopiketty> hm, I hadn't thought of that.
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> octopiketty: maybe it will fix 15.04 from there
[11:19] <octopiketty> is there any reason to expect that to catch it?
[11:19] <octopiketty> I think the problem here is a broken symlink somewhere trying to use some deprecated version of my drivers or something.
[11:20] <octopiketty> but I didn't see anything out of the ordinary /etc/ld.so.conf.d which is the only place I know where to look.
[11:21] <tete_> hm
[11:21] <iFach404> can i chat to other user via Terminal with the internet connections?
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> iFach404: on same network there is a way for that
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> iFach404: chat to other users on other computers then own network, use irssi chat or something
[11:23] <octopiketty> lotuspsychje: http://pastebin.com/25GENDzp
[11:23] <iFach404> lotuspsycje , with command "write"? when i am in root system?
[11:23] <octopiketty> errors from glxinfo on host.
[11:23] <iFach404> lotuspsychje , with command "write"? when i am in root system?
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> !info cryptcat | iFach404
[11:26] <smallfoot-> Why is there no easy way to open GNOME Terminal as superuser?
[11:28] <MrElendig> smallfoot-: don't do that
[11:28] <MrElendig> smallfoot-: just run sudo -i inside it instead
[11:28] <MrElendig> or use limited sudo
[11:28] <bekks> smallfoot-: BEsides you should not do that, whats complicated with "gksudo gnome-terminal"?
[11:29] <smallfoot-> bekks, ah, knowing about the cryptic command gksudo? Shouldn't I just be able to right-click on the GNOME Terminal icon and select "Run as superuser" in the menu?
[11:29] <bekks> smallfoot-: Whats "crpytic" at gksudo? And, no, you should not be able to just right-click.
[11:29] <MrElendig> smallfoot-: don't do that
[11:30] <smallfoot-> bekks, 'gksudo' might as well be my password
[11:30] <MrElendig> smallfoot-: gksudo is horrible, and running any X client app as root is stupid and insecure
[11:30] <MrElendig> https://media.ccc.de/browse/congress/2013/30C3_-_5499_-_en_-_saal_1_-_201312291830_-_x_security_-_ilja_van_sprundel.html#video
[11:30] <smallfoot-> MrElendig, so why is there no way to right-click on GNOME Terminal and select "run as superuser" and then it starts it with "sudo -i" for me?
[11:31] <MrElendig> smallfoot-: because no one have coded that in yet
[11:31] <smallfoot-> Oh, maybe someone should!
[11:31] <MrElendig> also that wouldn't really work if you don't have passwordless sudo
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> !sudo | smallfoot-
[11:32] <smallfoot-> Ubuntu is not user friendly if I have to remember commands like that
[11:32] <iFach404> lotuspsychje , oh i cant understand -_-
[11:32] <iFach404> lotuspsychje , oh i cant understand -_-
[11:32] <MrElendig> smallfoot-: it is use friendly
[11:32] <smallfoot-> in Windows you can just right-click on Terminal and select run as superuser
[11:32] <cfhowlett> smallfoot-, this ain't windows.
[11:33] <MrElendig> but admins, who are the only ones who should ever need to use sudo, are asumed to actually know what they are doing anyway
[11:33] <lotuspsychje> iFach404: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=907675
[11:33] <cfhowlett> smallfoot-, but if this one command is sufficient for your to abandon ubuntu, you have options.  choose wisely.
[11:33] <MrElendig> though many ofcourse don't
[11:34] <MrElendig> adding a right click -> open terminal with root shell inside is easy to implement, but has some security issues
[11:34] <mmarc69> hello
[11:34] <bekks> Just add gksudo gnome-terminal as context menu entry.
[11:34] <MrElendig> but imo if you can't remember to run "sudo -i" then yous shouldn't be working as root in the first place
[11:35] <MrElendig> bekks: you might want to watch that video I linked to
[11:36] <bekks> MrElendig: Is there a transscript of that video?
[11:37] <MrElendig> probably not
[11:38] <anatoliy> gghjgg
[11:38] <fattaneh> hi all i want to use both nat and host only adapter in ubuntu vm, the host-only adapter called "vboxnet1" ip address: 192.168.57.1    but it doesnt work. and when i run ifconfig it just show loopback. i paste the /etc/network/interfaces in link: http://justpaste.it/kwks
[11:39] <octopiketty> hi. I am experiencing some problems using OpenGL over SSH.
[11:39] <bekks> fattaneh: run "sudo ifconfig -a"
[11:39] <fattaneh> bekks: ok
[11:40] <octopiketty> debugging errors from lxinfo on host: http://pastebin.com/25GENDzp
[11:40] <fattaneh> bekks: i ran it so its not up, but what can i do
[11:41] <MrElendig> bekks: ifconfig was deprecated over 10 years ago, and you don't need root to list the interfaces/addresses
[11:41] <bekks> fattaneh: Can you pastebin your network config please, as you configured it in your guest?
[11:41] <nyanloutre> still not booting, any idea ?
[11:41] <fattaneh> bekks: ok,thanks
[11:44] <fattaneh> bekks: it doesn't connect to net how can i copy and paste text from on vm to a host?
[11:45] <MrElendig> fattaneh: file, guest additions, or just use a pastebin
[11:45] <nyanloutre> anyone bas
[11:46] <nyanloutre> anyone has already cached the root with lvmcache ?
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> nyanloutre: re-ask your issue here once in a while, details,where you stuck
[11:47] <fattaneh> MrElendig: thank u
[11:47] <MrElendig> fattaneh: you can just curl text to a pastebin directly instead of copying to the host
[11:47] <MrElendig> or use a cli pastebin client like `gist`
[11:47] <MrElendig> if all you want is to pastebin the text in the first place
[11:48] <nyanloutre_> I have set up a fresh ubuntu installation with lvm then i have created a cache with lvmcache
[11:48] <nyanloutre_> The caching device is a ssd wich cache the lv ubuntu-vg/root
[11:49] <one> hi
[11:49] <fattaneh> MrElendig: but i dont have connection to vm how can i use pasetbin in ther
[11:49] <nyanloutre_> it works but if i reboot the system goes to busybox saying that the device doesn't exist
[11:49] <MrElendig> use a file then
[11:50] <MrElendig> save output to a file, read that file from the host
[11:52] <fattaneh> MrElendig: sorry one more question, where are the files which we save in the vm, from the host
[11:52] <nyanloutre_> lotuspsychje : do you have an idea ?
[11:54] <MrElendig> fattaneh: easiest way, since virtualbox is stupid, is to use a usb stick as temporary storage
[11:54] <MagZer0> How do you stop a ping request
[11:54] <MrElendig> elase there are tools for mounting vbox images
[11:54] <nyanloutre_> ctrl+c
[11:54] <fattaneh> MrElendig: ok, thanks
[11:54] <MrElendig> I asume you don't have the gust addons installed
[11:54] <MrElendig> if you do have them installed then you can set up a shared folder
[11:54] <MrElendig> but it is quite unreliable
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> nyanloutre_: maybe the #lvm guys?
[11:55] <nyanloutre_> ok thanks I will see !
[11:58] <nyanloutre_> nobody respond :(
[12:02] <levan> .
[12:02] <nyanloutre_> .
[12:08] <xchatter> How can I start ibus automatically? Under one user ibus is started and I can enter Japanese chars, under another user ibus is not started. Why?
[12:08] <xchatter> Kubuntu 15.04
[12:09] <nyanloutre_> OMG the solution !! http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=119644
[12:09] <nyanloutre_> I will try this
[12:11] <Zack263> morning
[12:17] <binni> does ubuntu block any ports on a default install?
[12:18] <zerowaitstate> binni: iptables -L will answer that
[12:18] <binni> zerowaitstate, I don't know how to read that, it says "target     prot opt source               destination" under all three headings.
[12:19] <binni> zerowaitstate, example heading: "Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)"
[12:19] <ioria> binni i think not
[12:20] <zerowaitstate> policy ACCEPT means that by default all traffic will be allowed, unless a rule says otherwise
[12:20] <zerowaitstate> Chain INPUT is the ACL for incoming traffic
[12:20] <zerowaitstate> binni: if you don't see any rules under Chain INPUT, and the policy is ACCEPT, then all incoming traffic will be allowed
[12:25] <thms> Hi there
[12:27] <clausen> is Zimbra included in Ubuntu?
[12:27] <clausen> ("apt-cache search zimbra" doesn't show up anything)
[12:27] <thms> ethereal is not in ubuntu packages ?
[12:27] <thms> oO ?
[12:27] <zerowaitstate> thms: it's now called wireshark
[12:29] <k1l_> clausen: isnt zimbra prop. only?
[12:29] <clausen> k1l_, no, it has a (fsf-approved) free version
[12:29] <k1l_> clausen: you need to get that from their website.
[12:29] <clausen> k1l_, it would be nice to know why the free version isn't packaged
[12:30] <clausen> (and forked, if necessary!)
[12:30] <clausen> it seems like the best free webmail client
[12:30] <k1l_> clausen: because they refuse to let it ship? i dont know. ask zimbra
[12:30] <k1l_> its not in debian, too. so it seems its not that free
[12:30] <clausen> k1l_, the FSF wouldn't approve of them in that case
[12:31] <clausen> k1l_, like I said, the Zimbra people claim that their licence is FSF-approved
[12:33] <thms>  zerowaitstate I need ethereal for a uni project
[12:34] <thms> wireshark is the GUI
[12:34] <k1l_> clausen: see the last comment: https://bugzilla.zimbra.com/show_bug.cgi?id=50805
[12:34] <k1l_> clausen: so dont blame ubunut or debian, blame zimbra
[12:34] <clausen> brb phone
[12:34] <thms> "Compare the tool with Wireshark tool and based on your own opinion  [..]"
[12:35] <levo> can you guys suggest me a light web browser? firefox and google chrome are so cpu intensive for my laptop
[12:36] <k1l_> thms: wireshark is the new ethereal
[12:36] <lotuspsychje> levo: chromium-browser
[12:37] <k1l_> thms: its just a name change due to copyrights stuff because the developer got a new workplace
[12:37] <levo> lotuspsychje: is it really lighter than those two?
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> levo: yes
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> levo: and if you want real lightweight try links2 from terminal
[12:38] <k1l_> thms: https://www.wireshark.org/news/20060607.html
[12:38] <levo> lotuspsychje: no not that light. recent versions of firefox and google chrome have become so slow
[12:38] <thms> k1l_: wasnt ethereal command-line only at some point ?
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> !info chromium-browser | levo
[12:39] <Fjorgynn> :)
[12:39] <zerowaitstate> thms: if you just want to run captures without doing analysis, then use tcpdump
[12:39] <Fjorgynn> levo: links2
[12:39] <thms> guy
[12:40] <thms> zerowaitstate, k1l_ : I want to freelance this: https://www.freelancer.com/jobs/php/Ethereal-packet-sniffing-tool-Ethereal/
[12:40] <Fjorgynn> levo: what kind of pc do you have? PIII?
[12:40] <thms> it's an assignment for this year
[12:40] <levo> Fjorgynn: no, it's a core 2 duo 2.1GHz laptop. but so slow
[12:40] <zerowaitstate> thms: lol
[12:40] <gp5st> is this still the correct way to get /etc/hosts to work? http://askubuntu.com/questions/347152/why-is-the-etc-hosts-file-not-working and what was the rationale for breaking the hosts file?
[12:40] <k1l_> thms: then talk to the guys who did sign that job. the facts are given, now deal with it.
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> levo: wich ubuntu do you run on it?
[12:40] <thms> Look at question 4, how can I compare ethereal and wireshark then ?
[12:41] <thms> zerowaitstate: why do you lol :D
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> !hostname | gp5st
[12:41] <levo> lotuspsychje: lubuntu 64bit 14.08
[12:41] <levo> 14.04
[12:41] <k1l_> thms: then do the job, dont let us do your job and get the money. we already answered you that this question is pointless
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> levo: chromium comes default on lubuntu right?
[12:41] <levo> lotuspsychje: no
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[12:42] <thms> k1l_: ok :)
[12:42] <thms> Not asking to do the job just confused.
[12:42] <thms> I'm not even awarded the project ;)
[12:43] <k1l_> thms: i provided even a link that should make clear how pointless that is
[12:43] <thms> k1l_: yup I seen it
[12:44] <zerowaitstate> thms: the tool for doing captures absent wireshark is tcpdump. end of story
[12:44] <gp5st> lotuspsychje: great, exception /etc/hosts doesn't seem to work for me and additionally I'm not setting my own hostname
[12:44] <ioria> thms if you want ethereal i think you have to build it
[12:46] <zerowaitstate> "hire freelancers who also bid on the project: thms00, ...."
[12:47] <zerowaitstate> my advice is not to consult on things you don't know anything about
[12:47] <thms> ioria: yup
[12:47] <thms> zerowaitstate: I just bid, yes, but he didn't accept my bid.
[12:48] <thms> (yet.)
[12:48] <neldogz> #join /Fedora
[12:48] <thms> there's tshark btw
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> thms  what are you hoping to find here, now you know that we cannot help you?
[12:49] <zerowaitstate> thms: wireshark and friends use the pcap library to do the actual packet capture. any tool that fronts libpcap is going to do the same thing
[12:51] <neldogz> Hello everyone, can someone please tell me if it necessary to format a raw drive with a partition or is it OK to format it to Ext4 directly? This is a 2TB external WD hard drive. Gnome disks will not format it if it has an MBR/DOS or GPT partition on it. GParted works but then I cannot write to the drive.
[12:53] <MrElendig> you want partitions
[12:53] <Docmors> and these partitions need to have some file system if you want them to simply mount on system start
[12:54] <Docmors> or plug in
[12:54] <neldogz> So dare I ask, why does the disks utility even allow you to format a disk without a partition?
[12:55] <thms> MonkeyDust: I know.
[12:55] <thms> zerowaitstate: yes but it requires screenshots of ethereal lol
[12:55] <neldogz> And worse, why does it fail to partition an external hard drive
[12:55] <Docmors> neldogz, it doesn't
[12:56] <thms> Whatever, it's my work not yours k1l_ is right.
[12:56] <thms> Thanks for your help all
[12:56] <Docmors> it only partitions , format is another step
[12:57] <zerowaitstate> thms: the client is clearly confused about what they want. for example, they list Java and PHP as required skills for the project
[12:57] <zerowaitstate> thms: for a manual on an obsolete software package
[12:57] <zerowaitstate> thms: for $30 USD
[12:58] <neldogz> Docmors, If you open the disks utility  and highlight say for example a thumb drive, You have two formats.. If you click on the gears icon you can add a file system such as Ext4.. but if you go over to the top right hand side and click on the 3 horizontal lines icon
[12:58] <neldogz> Docmors, you get another format which will allow you to add a partition before formatting a file system
[12:58] <zerowaitstate> neldogz: there has to be a partition table on the drive before you can add a filesystem to it
[12:59] <neldogz> zerowaitstate, I have tested this and gnome disks does not require you to have a partition
[12:59] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:00]  * ObrienDave waves
[13:00] <Docmors> neldogz, look here http://www.howtogeek.com/106873/how-to-use-fdisk-to-manage-partitions-on-linux/
[13:01] <jjeronimo> Why is it when I install the latest nvidia drivers on ubuntu 15.04, everything works on the first boot, but on the second boot I get a black screen
[13:01] <zerowaitstate> neldogz: yeah, but does it allow you to mount that filesystem?
[13:01] <micha_> hi
[13:02] <zerowaitstate> neldogz: I guess theoretically if it's a block device you can write whatever you want to it
[13:02] <micha_> i'm running 14.04 on a dell xps 2015 and modesetting fails, i need to pass nomodeset to the kernel to get it to boot
[13:03] <neldogz> zerowaitstate, thanks for the link, I had also come across that earlier. Check this out: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/14010/the-merits-of-a-partitionless-filesystem
[13:03] <bekks> micha_: Yeah, thats the solution for getting more than a black screen.
[13:03] <zerowaitstate> neldogz: Docmors provided
[13:03] <micha_> bekks, but it kills suspend and a lot of other things, so its only a workaround
[13:04] <bekks> neldogz: All points shown in you link can be aesily done with partitions as well.
[13:04] <micha_> is there a better solution?
[13:04] <Zack263> whereis beautiful_girls
[13:04] <bekks> micha_: Most likeley there isnt.
[13:04] <bekks> Zack263: On a different network.
[13:04] <Zack263> hehehehe
[13:05] <great_lakes_time> #ubuntustudio
[13:05] <Zack263> pretty girls go on IRC... thats impossible
[13:05] <neldogz> bekks, but the point is that we dont need to correct?
[13:05] <compdoc> Im could be a very pretty girl <giggle>
[13:05] <bekks> neldogz: Dont need to what?
[13:06] <zerowaitstate> neldogz: many tools assume the disk is partitioned. for one thing, you cannot go back and add a partition table later if you need to repartition the drive
[13:06] <neldogz> thanks guys this is good information
[13:07] <zerowaitstate> neldogz: but since there are block devices out there that are not physical disks, the capability to add a filesystem to an arbitrary block device is provided
[13:07] <zerowaitstate> neldogz: that doesn't mean it's a good idea
[13:08] <neldogz> zerowaitstate, So it seems like there is a problem with the disks utility or my external hard drive already comes with a pre-configured partition that I cannot see. I am going to try to add a partition using fdisk instead.
[13:08] <zerowaitstate> neldogz: use gdisk
[13:08] <ObrienDave> or gparted
[13:08] <zerowaitstate> neldogz: i suspect if it is a recent drive it will use a GPT table
[13:09] <neldogz> zerowaitstate, gnome disks yes? Thats what I have been using, also Gparted i have tried and both have failed
[13:09] <zerowaitstate> neldogz: no
[13:09] <zerowaitstate> neldogz: gdisk is the GPT version of fdisk
[13:09] <bekks> neldogz: How did they "fail" in particular?
[13:09] <ObrienDave> more than 2TB needs GPT table
[13:09] <neldogz> zerowaitstate, thanks! I will try this
[13:09] <neldogz> bekks, I will reproduce the problem now. Just one moment
[13:09] <compdoc> gnome disks is the gnome disk utility. pretty nice gui
[13:10] <neldogz> Ok I am just going reproduce the issue here the way I encountered it then I will use gdisks.
[13:10] <martysia> 'm planning to restart hexchat again I'm sorry for the inconvinience Please do not ban me for that...
[13:12] <neldogz> So I open Gnome Disks and highlight the external hard drive, I dismount it by selecting the stop button. Then i go to the top right hand corner with the 3 horizontal lines are (think this is called a hamburger icon) and I select format. I select Quick and GPT.
[13:13] <bekks> neldogz: Whats the error you got when using gparted and fdisk?
[13:13] <ObrienDave> try 2 separate operations. GPT first, then format
[13:13] <Zack263> locate prettygirls*.*
[13:13] <neldogz> This works no issues, It tells me I have a 2.0 TB of Free Space on the disk, now I have to format it. So i go back down to the gears icond and select the plus sign and the full 2000 GB are selected, i select Ext4 as my file system and hit create.. And I get the following error:
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> !ot | Zack263
[13:14] <bekks> Zack263: Wrong network.
[13:14] <Zack263> oh thanks... i will check it out.. i'm still learning allt he channels
[13:14] <Zack263> i'm trying to write them down and rememberthem..theres so many cool channels
[13:14] <ObrienDave> then channel list is your friend
[13:15] <neldogz> Error creating Partition   Error wiping newly created partition /dev/sdf1: Command-line 'wipefs -a "dev/sdf1" exited with non-zero status 1:wipefs: error: /dev/sdf1: probing initialization failed: No such file or directory (udisks-error-quark, 0)
[13:15] <bekks> !alis | Zack263
[13:15] <tugay> hi guys
[13:15] <tugay> how can ı reach the pidgin settings ?
[13:15] <tugay> nothing in the app window
[13:15] <neldogz> bekks, the error above is what I get when i use gnome disks ^^ when I use Gparted I don't get an error but then I cannot write to the disk not even after rebooting.
[13:16] <bekks> neldogz: Which error DO you get?
[13:16] <ObrienDave> tugay, look in the menu structure?
[13:16] <neldogz> Error creating Partition   Error wiping newly created partition /dev/sdf1: Command-line 'wipefs -a "dev/sdf1" exited with non-zero status 1:wipefs: error: /dev/sdf1: probing initialization failed: No such file or directory (udisks-error-quark, 0)
[13:16] <ioria> neldogz, you have others disk of that size on your system ?
[13:16] <neldogz> bekks, Error creating Partition   Error wiping newly created partition /dev/sdf1: Command-line 'wipefs -a "dev/sdf1" exited with non-zero status 1:wipefs: error: /dev/sdf1: probing initialization failed: No such file or directory (udisks-error-quark, 0)
[13:16] <neldogz> ioria, no this is the only disk of this size on my system, it is a Western Digital External Hard Drive
[13:16] <bekks> neldogz: So /dev/sdf1 does not exist.
[13:17] <tugay> there is no menu
[13:17] <tugay> obrien
[13:18] <ObrienDave> neldogz, how many drives do you have? sdf would be the 6th drive
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> tugay  consider using a more userfriendly app, if pidgin doesnt work for you
[13:18] <neldogz> ObrienDave, yes I have 6 hard drives on my system
[13:18] <tugay> do you should any app ?
[13:19] <ObrienDave> tugay, try hexchat
[13:19] <tugay> it has not facebook twitter support but :(
[13:20] <ObrienDave> use pidgin for facebook, twitter. use ANYthing else for IRC
[13:21] <tugay> but its buggy
[13:21] <neldogz> bekks, actually this problem happens when I try to partition and format any USB attached hard drive. I just tried a 1gb SanDisk cruiser
[13:21] <tugay> cant add twitter or anything
[13:21] <tugay> ıts showed me a menu for the first time after install
[13:21] <bekks> neldogz: are you using gparted, etc. as root user?
[13:21] <tugay> then nothing
[13:22] <neldogz> bekks, I am using gnome disks.
[13:22] <neldogz> bekks,  I will try Gparted
[13:22] <ObrienDave> tugay, ask in #pidgin
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> tugay  type /j #pidgin
[13:23] <ObrienDave> neldogz, do they ask for your password?
[13:23] <neldogz> Ok in Gparted my disk says Partition unallocated, file system unallocated.. I am going to right click on the disk and select new, Primary Partition and ext4 then press add
[13:23] <neldogz> ObrienDave, yes
[13:24] <neldogz> bekks, it works but now when I open the thumb drive I cannot write to it
[13:24] <neldogz> bekks, in gparted it says .. Partition /dev/sdg1 file system ext4
[13:26] <ObrienDave> neldogz, i have 3 WD drives. 3TB through eSATA, a 3 and 4TB through USB. have not run into this problem yet
[13:26] <ioria> one time  a struggled a lot for a 2T disk,  and at the end my motherboard sata controller hasn't support for that size
[13:27] <ObrienDave> ioria, this is external USB
[13:27] <Dro__> whats the vlc default record folder ?
[13:29] <[RO]Daniel> hello, how can i check logs or something to figure out why i have problems?
[13:29] <ioria> ObrienDave, a friend of mine, however, had the same issue with a dock station
[13:29] <[RO]Daniel> since a few days, about once a day the system get frozen
[13:30] <ObrienDave> ioria, i have a 3tb using eSATA dock station. works great
[13:30] <ioria> ObrienDave, ye, but your motherboard maybe is better
[13:30] <ObrienDave> could be
[13:32] <Horsemeds> Hi after using the kill switch on my Private Internet Access Beta Linux client I am unable to get network access. It worked once more after I restarted PIA client and I unchecked the kill switch but still I got no access with the client disconnected . PIA support told me to remove the PIA client but I still cant connect.
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> Dro__  VLC - Tools - preferences - Video - video snapshots
[13:34] <neldogz> ObrienDave, are you running 15.04 or 14?
[13:34] <ObrienDave> 14.04
[13:34] <clausen> k1l_, thanks, so somebody could fork Zimbra, and make it suitable for Debian/Ubuntu?
[13:35] <ObrienDave> neldogz, i'm staying with LTS for this cycle
[13:35] <k1l_> clausen: or talk to the zimbra guys (again) to make it packageable
[13:36] <Murii> Can I use the net api that libgdx provides to make a simple mp game?
[13:36] <neldogz> ObrienDave, I am running 15.04 and have been noticing strange problems
[13:36] <neldogz> ObrienDave, such as this one with the disks
[13:37] <ObrienDave> neldogz, it can take a while for minor bugs to get worked out
[13:37] <Docmors> neldogz, are you using linux long?
[13:37] <neldogz> Docmors, not too long, for about 2 years now.
[13:37] <clausen> k1l_, thanks a lot for figuring out the problem :)
[13:37] <compdoc> Im running Ubuntu 12.04.5 on a server, and its saying I should run do-release-upgrade. Anyone have problems with that?
[13:37] <ObrienDave> neldogz, 15.04 has only been out for a week or so
[13:37] <Docmors> and that's the first time you had this problem
[13:37] <neldogz> Docmors, yes correct
[13:38] <[RO]Daniel> hello, how can i check logs or something to figure out why i have problems?
[13:38] <Docmors> does it work under 14.04 or 12.04?
[13:38] <[RO]Daniel> since a few days, about once a day the system get frozen, i'm using Ubuntu 14.04.2
[13:38] <neldogz> Docmors, yes I never had an issue under 14.04 or 14.10
[13:38] <neldogz> Docmors, before that I was using Fedora
[13:39] <Docmors> interesting
[13:41] <neldogz> Docmors, I can recreate the problem on a small 1gb SanDisk
[13:42] <neldogz> Just curious guys, if you highlight one of your external hard disks or thumb drives in Gnome Disks (connected via USB) do you see Partitioning information?
[13:42] <ObrienDave> neldogz, i know WDs use an encrypting USB controller card. (have taken them apart) but that does not explain the USB stick issue
[13:43] <ObrienDave> neldogz, yes, no issues with gparted, gnome-disks here
[13:44] <neldogz> ObrienDave, what does your partitioning say for one of your external drives under gnome disks?
[13:44] <ObrienDave> sec
[13:46] <ObrienDave> neldogz, http://i.imgur.com/mZXyCgJ.png
[13:46] <neldogz> ObrienDave, thanks!.. well that confirms it
[13:47] <neldogz> ObrienDave, definitely a problem on my system
[13:47] <basic> hi guys. I have a simple problem and im new at ubuntu
[13:47] <ObrienDave> http://i.imgur.com/y1MvPAO.png       1.5TB dual boot laptop drive
[13:47] <basic> whenever i try enter the software center, it crashes. What can i do to make it work?
[13:47] <ObrienDave> neldogz, ^^^
[13:48] <rebs> nice
[13:48] <rebs> too bad its a sony :[
[13:49] <neldogz> ObrienDave, I think I am going to have to revert back to 14.04
[13:49] <neldogz> ObrienDave, thank you very much for the screenshots, that was very helpful
[13:49] <ObrienDave> most welcome
[13:51] <basic> anyone?
[13:51] <ablest1980> hello
[13:52] <ObrienDave> basic, in terminal, sudo apt-get install synaptic
[13:52] <basic> ok
[13:52] <basic> error
[13:53] <ObrienDave> what error?
[13:53] <ablest1980> is synaptic for touchpad?
[13:53] <basic> encountered header
[13:53] <ObrienDave> synaptic is another package manager
[13:53] <ablest1980> oh
[13:53] <basic> problem merge list
[13:53] <basic> package could not be parged
[13:53] <basic> *parsed
[13:53] <ObrienDave> basic, in terminal, sudo apt-get install -f
[13:54] <basic> error same thing
[13:54] <ObrienDave> you have broken packages
[13:54] <basic> yes
[13:54] <ObrienDave> basic, in terminal, sudo apt-get -f install
[13:54] <basic> i did brien it says error again
[13:54] <xaera> hi all
[13:55] <ablest1980> hi
[13:55] <xaera> is there any app
[13:55] <xaera> that gives me the web search functionality
[13:55] <xaera> from desktop
[13:55] <xaera> another than unity's one
[13:55] <OerHeks> xaera, easy on the enter please
[13:56] <ObrienDave> basic, in terminal, sudo apt-get auto-remove
[13:56] <ObrienDave> basic, in terminal, sudo apt-get auto-clean
[13:56] <basic> invalid operation
[13:57] <ObrienDave> sec
[13:57] <SpeccyMan> autoremove autoclean, no hyphen
[13:57] <ObrienDave> yup, sorry
[13:57] <ObrienDave> basic, in terminal, sudo apt-get autoclean
[13:57] <ObrienDave> basic, in terminal, sudo apt-get autoremove
[13:57] <OerHeks> xaera, unity dash does not search on the web directly ...
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> xaera  i guess Docky
[13:58] <basic> ok now what?
[13:58] <wh> bubble
[13:58] <xaera> yes oer thats right
[13:59] <xaera> but its uses internet and resource
[13:59] <xaera> and takes my time
[13:59] <xaera> and how can ı whisper ? :)
[13:59] <ObrienDave> basic, in terminal, sudo apt-get -f install
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> xaera  wisper?
[13:59] <basic> brien do you want to do a remote control
[13:59] <basic> it says error everytime
[13:59] <xaera> private message
[14:00] <ObrienDave> basic, ok, sorry, i'm out of ideas
[14:02] <Vigour> └─----[~]> git
[14:02] <Vigour> No command 'hub' found, did you mean:
[14:02] <Vigour> ubuntu 15.04
[14:03] <ObrienDave> anyone else have any suggestions for basic?
[14:03] <Vigour> can someone help me a bit
[14:03] <basic> thanks 0brienDave
[14:03] <basic> i just have usoftware center crash everytime i try use it, fix somehow so it works
[14:05] <holger> wlan
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> basic  picked this up in this channel ... paste it as a text document, make it executable and then execute it ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/10977819/
[14:08] <basic> ok
[14:09] <basic> how do i make it executable?
[14:09] <Vigour> ah, was .bashrc, fixed
[14:09] <Horsemeds> After using the kill switch on my Private Internet Access Beta Linux client I am unable to get network access with the client deactivated or removed completely. It worked once more after I restarted PIA client and I unchecked the kill switch but still I got no access with the client disconnected . PIA support told me to remove the PIA client but I still cant connect.
[14:10] <pwca> upgrading from 14.04 to 15.04 broke OpenGL over SSH. what do I do?
[14:12] <BluesKaj> Horsemeds, maybe it diabled the network manager not just the vpn network manager
[14:12] <BluesKaj> err disabled
[14:12] <Horsemeds> BluesKaj yeah i thought that, so i restarted it and it still doesnt work
[14:13] <Horsemeds> also the network appears up and i can ping my router
[14:13] <basic> sorry MonkeyDust i dont know how to do that
[14:14] <Horsemeds> BluesKaj its the way it normally behaves when the kill switch is activated but nornally it comes back when disabling the app
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> basic  then now is the time to learn ... select all and copy (ctrl a, ctrl c) ... open gedit and paste (ctrl v), then save
[14:15] <Horsemeds> nornally = normally
[14:15] <BluesKaj> Horsemeds, do the the PIA VPN server still show up in network manager? I have PIA VPN as well using openvpn, but I haven't used any kill switch ..didn't even know one existed
[14:16] <basic> MonkeyDust and then?
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> basic  saved? then right click, properties, permissions, make executable
[14:16] <Horsemeds> BluesKaj yeah there is a beta linux client- the trouble i had with openvpn alone is that it just kept going if i got disconnected from the VPN
[14:16] <ObrienDave> basic, don't give it an extension
[14:17] <ObrienDave> then ^^
[14:17] <Horsemeds> BluesKaj they show up but thats because i didnt remove them from the time i was using open vpn alone
[14:17] <BluesKaj> Horsemeds, I'm using the linux client from 2yrs ago and it still works on 15.04
[14:18] <Horsemeds> BluesKaj ah right - you should have the kill switch
[14:18] <pwca> why does upgrading from Ubuntu v 14.04 to Ubuntu v 15.04 break OpenGL rendering over SSH?
[14:18] <basic> done
[14:19] <ObrienDave> double click it
[14:19] <ObrienDave> and let it work
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> basic  ok, open a terminal and type ./[file name]
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> basic  that's a dot and then slash   ./
[14:19] <BluesKaj> Horsemeds, why , I havent' had disconnection problems at all with PIA in at least a yr.
[14:20] <Horsemeds> BluesKaj yeah i dont mostly, just on one machine
[14:22] <BluesKaj> Horsemeds, of course it depends where you're located and which servers are best for you
[14:23] <Horsemeds> BluesKaj yeah i think the disconnect is just due to the cheap ass wifi on that machine, but its a PITA when it unmasks me
[14:23] <basic> tried couple of times, it says no file directory
[14:24] <Horsemeds> ive had 3 or more years of mostly problem free
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> basic  you have to execute it in the folder where you saved it
[14:25] <pwca> I think I have a problem in /etc/ld.so.conf
[14:25] <pwca> I need to change some symlinks.
[14:25] <pwca> please advice.
[14:26] <basic> MonkeyDust how?
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> basic  how what?
[14:27] <basic> how execute
[14:28] <basic> you mean in terminal?
[14:28] <MonkeyDust> basic  in terminal, go to the folder where you saved the file, then type   ./[file name]
[14:28] <basic> how do i go to a folder in terminal?
[14:29] <haikong> cd folder name
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> basic  where did you save it, in which folder?
[14:29] <basic> home
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> basic  type ls    is it in the list?
[14:30] <basic> yes
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> basic  ok, what's the name?
[14:31] <basic> monkey
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> the file is called monkey?
[14:31] <basic> yes
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> :)
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> ok, then type   ./monkey [enter]
[14:31] <pwca> I don't think he's supposed to type "[enter]".
[14:32] <basic> its running
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> no, hit enter
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> basic  great, in time, this can become a routine, it was hard the first time
[14:34] <basic> it finished
[14:34] <basic> ok software center works our goal achieved
[14:34] <basic> thanks man good job
[14:34] <ObrienDave> \o/
[14:35] <LMNOP__> hey is ubuntu useing the new Debian?
[14:35]  * MonkeyDust pats self on the shoulder: "that's my boy"
[14:35]  * ObrienDave kept that script for future use
[14:35] <k1l_> LMNOP__: that doesnt make any sense
[14:36] <LMNOP__> wut dont u understand about that q
[14:36]  * ObrienDave takes aim at Google translate. *** BOOOOOOOOOOM ***
[14:36] <k1l_> LMNOP__: please rephrase that question and make clear what you want to know
[14:36] <basic> ok thanks all i might be back have a good day
[14:36] <LMNOP__> hey is ubuntu useing the new Debian?
[14:37] <LMNOP__> I dont know wht u want me to rephrase
[14:37] <ObrienDave> Ubuntu is based on Debian. it does NOT use the latest Debian
[14:37] <LMNOP__> ok thanks
[14:38] <haikong> i think deepin is not ban
[14:39] <k1l_> LMNOP__: ubuntu syncs the packages from debian unstable. if that is what you want to know.
[14:39] <LMNOP__> can u rephrase that
[14:40] <ObrienDave> *troll alert*
[14:40] <pwca> is there a new version of lib32-nvidia-libgl?
[14:40] <LMNOP__> can u rephrase that to maek it more easier 4 me 2 understand
[14:40] <pwca> I have 15.04.
[14:41] <ObrienDave> !info lib32-nvidia-libgl
[14:41] <pwca> possibly you can help me, ObrienDave.
[14:41] <ioria> pwca are you Ubuntu or Arch ?
[14:42] <pwca> ObrienDave: I am trying to run OpenGL by SSH and I get the following error: http://pastebin.com/SpJb9d6Z
[14:42] <pwca> Ubuntu, ioria.
[14:42] <pwca> I thought perhaps when I did OpenGL over SSH maybe it tried to use by 32bit libraries instead of 64bit and I was missing this causing the error.
[14:42] <pwca> but I suppose Ubuntu bundles those together so I should be good.
[14:43] <ObrienDave> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=lib32-nvidia-libgl&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[14:43] <ObrienDave> it's not in ubuntu packages
[14:43] <pwca> so that's not the answer then.
[14:44] <ObrienDave> it might be a nvidia package
[14:44] <ObrienDave> https://www.archlinux.org/packages/multilib/x86_64/lib32-nvidia-libgl/
[14:45] <pwca> that's Arch Linux.
[14:45] <ioria> pwca steam ?
[14:45] <pwca> no, ioria.
[14:49] <ioria> pwca glxinfo | grep render ?
[14:49] <pwca> on host or client?
[14:49] <ioria> pwca both
[14:50] <pwca> ioria: http://pastebin.com/g479pdV0
[14:50] <Rufus> Hello all. what's the equivalent of echo "smth here"  { bunch of actions } ; echo "done."   for ubuntu please?
[14:51] <ioria> pwca client ?
[14:51] <pwca> ioria: that's the client, yes. I need to reboot the host (trying to mess with symlinks).
[14:52] <pwca> the issue should be caused by the client, since upgrading that caused the issues.
[14:54] <pwca> now I emptied out "/etc/ld.so.conf.d". I thought "sudo ldconfig" was going to recreate the symbolic links but it didn't.
[14:58] <crouan> +i
[14:59] <pragmaticenigma> Rufus, depends on the context... "echo" is often a print command, to print/display something to the screen
[15:00] <katronix> Hi all, just installed Ubuntu on my home system yesterday with LAMP, I had modified it yesterday so that home directories would work. Today for some reason its returning a 403. Can anyone suggest where I start looking? userdir.conf/load is still linked into mods-enabled
[15:00] <Rufus> pragmaticenigma I'm trying to supress output from a bash file. on Centos I'd do echo "some mesage" { all the commands I want to suppress output }  &>> $LOGFILE ; echo "done."
[15:02] <pragmaticenigma> if you want to suppress all output your output redirect needs a little more too it
[15:03] <tos-1> Rufus: That's shell dependent, not distibution dependent.
[15:05] <pwca> ioria: oh, and I already had that output in an earlier pastebin.
[15:05] <pwca> ioria: http://pastebin.com/SpJb9d6Z
[15:05] <ioria> pwca libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast
[15:06] <pwca> ioria: yes.
[15:07] <tos-1> Rufus: If you use bash, your syntax should work.
[15:07] <ioria> pwca server side ?
[15:07] <pwca> ioria: yes.
[15:07] <pwca> I think I had that error back when it worked as well.
[15:07] <Rufus> tos-1 roger that, I;ll change default to bash then
[15:07] <pragmaticenigma> tos-1, I suspect part of his issue is the program he's trying to suppress output for is writting to stderr instead of stdout
[15:08] <tos-1> pragmaticenigma: &> redicts both, stout and stderr
[15:08] <tos-1> *stdout
[15:08] <ioria> pwca symlink issuue i think
[15:09] <ioria> pwca are you sure ?
[15:09] <tos-1> Rufus: The default shell should be bash. Check your shell using `echo $SHELL`
[15:11] <pwca> ioria: yeah, I think it's probably a symlink issue.
[15:12] <ioria> pwca try . http://askubuntu.com/questions/541343/problems-with-libgl-fbconfigs-swrast-through-each-update
[15:12] <ioria> away 10 min
[15:16] <kk0710> Hi guys, I am having  hell of a time here a usual.  I have an hp f018 laptop with an EFI style bios.  After I got it I installed Ubuntu along side windows and to access it I have always had to hit F9 on on boot and in the boot menu pick Ubuntu etc etc.  WEll the other day I wanted to do a full reset on my system so I did a restore on windows(thinking it would also reset the partitions to fctory settings but it didn't) ever since I did 
[15:17] <kk0710> for the "os boot menu" which is how to get into windows but it still seemed to work fine.  I then when and did a fresh install of 14.04 and the ubunt entry was added to the list.  Well last night it just disappeared and I have no idea why or how to fix it.
[15:18] <Guest11886> hello, I've installed Ubuntu 14.04  with the help of the mini.iso (I had neither DVD nor an USB drive handy). After installation I can log in into root and use the terminal. There seems to be no desktop environment preinstalled. How do I proceed setting up a "bloated" Ubuntu (w/ unity) from terminal?
[15:18] <daftykins> kk0710: sounds like you've got quite the mess on your hands.
[15:19] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu-desktop | Guest11886
[15:19] <daftykins> Guest11886: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^
[15:19] <pragmaticenigma> Guest11886, run "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[15:19] <daftykins> with a ^ at the end
[15:19] <pragmaticenigma> why the carrot at the end daftykins ?
[15:20] <kk0710> daftykins: I am having problems with literaly everything.  I had my wireless adapter workin flawlessly finally on ubuntu but then made the mistake of updating the firmware on my wrt120n and in an effort to get my wireless adapter working did a reset and here we are.  This doesn't include the problems I had on my desktop server and plex but I think that is figured out at least
[15:20] <daftykins> it selects the tasksel entry ensuring that's set
[15:20] <Guest11886> thank you schrodingersScat, ubottu and daftykins and pragmaticenigma, I will do that! Thanks for the quick and precise help.
[15:21] <daftykins> kk0710: i get the impression you'd be better off nuking that thing from orbit and reinstalling Windows from scratch too :> which is handy as you'll be able to kill all the spam partitions
[15:21] <kk0710> daftykins: I have actually been in here several times over the last week and spoken on various different issues I am having lol
[15:21] <daftykins> er, not spam but space wasting ones
[15:21] <daftykins> haha, yeah i think i noticed :>
[15:22] <kk0710> daftykins: this is where I feel like am getting old and completely outdated... this windows 8 BS with all these weird partitions and EFI and faststartp andblah blah bah I aeo freakingclu
[15:22] <Alek900> Hey, im having a issue with tearing  (both desktop and games/video) and vsync not working  on intel 4000 graphics, know of any possible solutions? running 15.04.
[15:22] <kk0710> daftykins: I wanted to do a clean insasdalj;dkj
[15:22] <kk0710> daftykins: now mykeyboward isn't letting me type
[15:22] <daftykins> kk0710: they're mostly messy from factory installs, doing one yourself will reduce it to a more sane 2 or 3 partitions
[15:23] <daftykins> kk0710: now might be a good time to check what material clothes you're wearing and discharge any static on you ;)
[15:23] <kk0710> daftykins: with this efi though and the f9 to get to the boot menu... isn't actuall a partition itself?  I didn't want to blow that out
[15:24] <daftykins> kk0710: no you can 100% nuke a hard disk from orbit and then install afresh
[15:24] <kk0710> daftykins: that was the biggest part I was afraid of screwing up.  As for not being able to type I think it was more the fact I am on the web interface right now, seems to be fine again
[15:24] <daftykins> i do it often :)
[15:24] <daftykins> ah webchat
[15:24] <daftykins> so your first step is obtaining a windows 8 ISO i suspect?
[15:24] <kk0710> daftykins: may I PM you I have a couple of quick questions that might not be ok in here
[15:25] <daftykins> kk0710: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/create-reset-refresh-media <-- this will let you make up a disc legally
[15:25] <daftykins> what, Windows related queries?
[15:26] <kk0710> daftykins: yes and some one "illegal" ones but your link will do just fine I guess(I was debating grabbing windows 10 instead as windowos 8 sucks but really I only use it as a backup for when my linux screws up which seems to be a lot lately lol
[15:27] <daftykins> i'm typing from 10 right now but it's a bit early days yet. can't 100% guarantee you won't have to reinstall anyway when it goes final
 daftykins: yes and some one "illegal" ones but your link will do just fine I guess(I was debating grabbing windows 10 instead as windowos 8 sucks but really I only use it as a backup for when my linux screws up which seems to be a lot lately lol
[15:28] <daftykins> LMNOP__: is there a particular reason you just pasted that?
[15:29] <kk0710> daftykins: before I get started on everything.  You go any insight on my networking problem.  I am seriously this close to just going out and buying a new laptop and and router.  Originally I was having problems only with this lapotp and in the ubuntu boot.  I would randomly drop my connection.  I did the backports fix and everything seemed to be fine then I updated my routers firmware.  Once I updated the router then my problems came 
 daftykins: before I get started on everything.  You go any insight on my networking problem.  I am seriously this close to just going out and buying a new laptop and and router.  Originally I was having problems only with this lapotp and in the ubuntu boot.  I would randomly drop my connection.  I did the backports fix and everything seemed to be fine then I updated my routers firmware.  Once I
[15:29] <LMNOP__> updated the router then my problems came
[15:29] <daftykins> k1l_: would you mind silencing this idiot please?
 k1l_: would you mind silencing this idiot please?
[15:30] <daftykins> thanks :)
[15:30] <k1l_> daftykins: yep, but no need for calling names :)
[15:30] <kk0710> reset the router which I did and it seemed better at first but now my router has to be power cycled every so often as it just stops working all together.  And now when it IS working the laptop will be fine but then suddenly I have no access, I can't even ping the gateway, so annoying.
[15:30] <daftykins> k1l_: understood
[15:30] <daftykins> kk0710: i don't know the full story really
[15:31] <daftykins> kk0710: how new is the laptop? maybe if returning it is still an option, you could just ditch it and get one with a supported adapter
[15:31] <kk0710> daftykins: the full story is I bought this laptop on the spur, and it has a realtek wireless card
[15:31] <kk0710> daftykins: more than 30 days
[15:31] <daftykins> ah, how are you with hardware? you could potentially swap out the card for another
[15:32] <kiwi_banal> Q: Are iPython pop-up help windows configurable? And if so, through osd-notify or elsewhere?
[15:32] <kk0710> daftykins: I only paid 350 for it I mean even if I only got 2-250 I am seriously tempted lol
[15:32] <kk0710> daftykins: but there are documented fixes for this card that is the weird part, it WAS working.
[15:32] <daftykins> kk0710: and iirc you have had every ubuntu version under the sun on there for testing? :)
[15:32] <kk0710> daftykins: if I do this install of windows 8 the way you recommend will the factory restory optios no longer exist?  That is my only concern if I sell it
[15:33] <kk0710> daftykins: no I have stayed with 14.04
[15:33] <daftykins> kk0710: what brand is this machine again?
[15:33] <kk0710> daftykins: it is very dificult testing something that is intermittent so I didn't go through and test all the kernels
[15:33] <kk0710> daftykins: it is an HP f018-dx
[15:33] <kk0710> daftykins: it is only an i3
[15:34] <kk0710> daftykins: so I mean MAYBE I could be convinced t upgrade lol
[15:34] <daftykins> so if you boot Windows and look for a recovery disc creator you can make up some ISOs / burn some DVDs with the recovery image
[15:34] <daftykins> i3's are fine
[15:34] <kk0710> daftykins: things seem to be running slower since my reset but I am hoping that is more to do with the partition table beingscrewy
[15:34] <kk0710> daftykins: so there will no longer be a recovery partition though?
[15:35] <daftykins> i would delete it all to reclaim the wasted space personally.
[15:36] <daftykins> any machines i work on, i create the disc set then file them away and never look at them again :D
[15:36] <kk0710> I went and looked the list of ubuntu safe laptops but most of them were only stable with the supplied version now any DL version and they don't do a good job of at glance specs on the laptops so clicking on every single one got annoying lol
[15:36] <daftykins> kk0710: which OS are you typing from right now?
[15:37] <kk0710> well I have an external drive connected to my desktop just for that.  can I create the "recovery disk" as an iso and simply store it on there so if I every decide to sell it I can do that?
[15:37] <kk0710> daftykins: windows
[15:37] <daftykins> kk0710: it's different per manufacturer's disc creation tool, so you'll need to look for the relevant program and just see what it offers
[15:37] <daftykins> likely it'll be called "HP Recovery..."
[15:38] <daftykins> so hunt the start menu for "HP..."
[15:38] <kk0710> ugh I seriously hate windows 8
[15:38] <kk0710> simple things made hard
[15:39] <kk0710> ok this is od it found something in the "ubuntu apps directory" wtf is going on here
[15:39] <daftykins> hold off on the swearing even in obfuscated form :)
[15:40] <kk0710> sorry sorry!  But deep down... we both know.... you understand my frustration lol
[15:40] <daftykins> kk0710: i don't know what you're doing in some ubuntu apps thing, but just focus on creating the recovery discs first
[15:40] <kk0710> so I did a search for startup disk creator and inthe results it is talking about ubuntu... my windows machine should know nothing about ubuntu
[15:40] <kk0710> did this thing do a freaking google search lol
[15:41] <alket> hi, how to configure gmail webapp in firefox after you dissmis it ?
[15:41] <kk0710> lets try recovery manager
[15:41] <kk0710> so slow
[15:42] <daftykins> kk0710: no just go to the start menu, all apps, then look for HP...
[15:44] <kk0710> Ok it will only let me create one
[15:45] <surgy> whats the kernal version that ships with ubuntu 15 ?
[15:45] <daftykins> 3.19
[15:45] <daftykins> also, it's a "kernel"
[15:45] <kk0710> well I gess this isn't an option daftykins as my choices are dvds and flash, flash drive requires 19gb
[15:46] <surgy> daftykins, ill spell it kernal
[15:46] <daftykins> kk0710: no optical drive in that machine?
[15:46] <daftykins> surgy: then you'll be wrong :)
[15:46] <crosse> hi
[15:46] <kk0710> I do but I have no blank dvds and it requires 5 lol
[15:46] <surgy> daftykins, and ill be proud of it :) thnx for the quick response
[15:46] <daftykins> haha
[15:46] <daftykins> no problem
[15:46] <daftykins> kk0710: hmm, does it have an option of create the images on hard disk instead?
[15:46] <kk0710> I've always used recovery partitions they seemed safer
[15:47] <kk0710> no dafty just dvd and flash it appears
[15:47] <daftykins> nah they're really not
[15:47] <daftykins> just think, hard disks fail
[15:47] <daftykins> crosse: hi, do you have a support question?
[15:47] <crosse> how to upgrade wine 1.6 to 1.7 in ubuntu
[15:48] <kk0710> daftykins: when using media like this will it do the same thing as the recovery partition and restorey the entire system back to factory defaults?  I was shocked when I did a restore earlier it did not reset the partitions back to pre ubuntu install
[15:48] <daftykins> if default packages are older than you want, first off establish why you think updating is necessary...
[15:48] <daftykins> then consider looking for a PPA if you aren't being offered it
[15:48] <SchrodingersScat> that's the fun part of proprietary jargon, you never know what you're going to get
[15:49] <daftykins> that's completely ridiculous - and shame on you SchrodingersScat for pedalling that same childish bias
[15:49] <kk0710> SchrodingersScat: I assume that was meant for me? lol
[15:49] <daftykins> kk0710: it'll tell you clearly what it'll do after booting from it i'm sure
[15:49] <daftykins> back shortly
[15:50] <crosse> help me please
[15:51] <bekks> crosse: which ubuntu do you have, in particular?
[15:51] <SchrodingersScat> If you have to wait to boot from recovery to know, I think that proves my point.
[15:51] <crosse> 14.10
[15:52] <mzaza> umake web visual-studio-code Doesn't work and tells me only firefox-dev available
[15:53] <ioria> crosse may i ask why you need wine ?
[15:54] <crosse> where are you peapole
[15:54] <kk0710> daftykins: I am ust trying to decide if I really even need this.  really I only care if it will restore to out of box conditions including partition table, if it won't do that Iwould just do a fresh install of 8 I guess
[15:54] <crosse> yes
[15:54] <kk0710> ioria: I hae been meaning to get back to you, I was under a different name but you helped me with plex!  I did what you said and everything works now so thank you so much!
[15:54] <crosse> haw to upgade wine 1.6 to 1.6
[15:55] <crosse> sorry 1.7
[15:55] <ioria> kk0710 i'm glad to hear that cheers
[15:55] <crosse> ioria thnx
[15:55] <k1l_> crosse: only wine 1.6 in the official repos. so eihter get a PPA or install wine from some other sources.
[15:56] <kk0710> and crap all this talk of resetting windows and I never figured out my original question of what the heck happened to my ubuntu entry
[15:56] <xangua> or compile it
[15:56] <bekks> crosse: what are you using wine for? maybe you can get your application in question from the ubuntu repos?
[15:56] <ioria> right !!!
[15:56] <crosse> there is new version 1.7
[15:56] <bekks> crosse: what are you using wine for? maybe you can get your application in question from the ubuntu repos?
[15:56] <kk0710> maybe I should just buy a new laptop and router this is becomming annoying
[15:56] <crosse> haw to upgrade
[15:57] <k1l_> crosse: there are no program updates once the ubuntu is released.
[15:57] <ioria> crosse :   Why do you want wine ?
[15:58] <Parabola> hey folks, i've got MATE installed now, and dont intend to use unity again, is there safe / sane way to remove unity without breaking the system?
[15:58] <crosse> run application of windows
[15:58] <k1l_> crosse: and 1.7.. is only the experimental version. the stable version of wine is 1.6.2
[15:58] <Parabola> sorry, 15.04
[15:58] <ioria> crosse :  which one , please ?
[15:58] <crosse> kll ....thnx
[15:59] <crosse> wich whate
[15:59] <crosse> ioria
[15:59] <k1l_> !wine | crosse
[15:59] <ioria> crosse :  which app do you wanna run ?
[16:00] <k1l_> crosse: so you will not get wine1.7 from ubuntu. look if there is a PPA or other 3rd party source or compile it
[16:00] <crosse> ok ..
[16:00] <XLV> !xrandr
[16:00] <pwca> ioria: so, got any ideas?
[16:01] <XLV> anyone knows if the xrandr system has changed in latest releases? i had a working setup, now, after a few updates, it broke once again
[16:02] <crosse> ioria driver of modem hspa
[16:02] <welen> Hello! I am looking to start booting my distro from grub command line, vs. the menu interface. Is it possible to incorporate some sort of file, like a python or C file, in the grub prompt that can be launched and interacted with? Such as one that asks for you to input something, and only allows you to go further if you enter the right string of text?
[16:02] <k1l_> crosse: that doesnt work with wine
[16:03] <crosse> whay!!!
[16:03] <k1l_> crosse: wine doesnt work with hardware drivers.
[16:03] <bekks> crosse: Because you cannot use device drivers with wine.
[16:03] <ioria> pwca did you check the symlinks ?
[16:04] <XLV> http://pastebin.com/hRu2CCdV this is the added conf i have added in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[16:04] <crosse> bekks: thnx
[16:04] <Parabola> :-\
[16:04] <pwca> ioria: yes.
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> XLV  arandr is a gui for xrandr
[16:05] <XLV> the whole setup is as follows.. two NASes based on msi c847 mbs , celeron 847 cpus.. they output through vga to an old kvm unit that doesnt support storing edid info of monitor.. so i had the problem, when the system booted and the kvm wasnt switched to that pc, the res defaulted to 1024x768
[16:05] <XLV> with the above added conf file, i had it working.. now its broke again
[16:06] <ioria> pwca did you run   export LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose   and then  glxgears ?
[16:06] <pwca> ioria: yes.
[16:07] <ioria> pwca output ?
[16:07] <pwca> ioria: same as when running glxinfo.
[16:10] <pirata> suckers
[16:11] <melgio> http://mandrak3.altervista.org/index.php?q=True%20Detective%201x07%20Capitolo%20Sette%20Verso%20La%20Verita#
[16:11] <ioria> pwca   do you have /usr/lib/nvidia-***/libGL.so.* ?
[16:12] <pwca> yea, ioria.
[16:12] <ioria> pwca   it's a link ?
[16:13] <ioria> pwca   ls -l
[16:14] <pwca> libGL.so -> libGL.so.1
[16:14] <pwca> libGL.so.1 -> libGL.so.349.16
[16:17] <ioria> pwca   and in /usr/local/lib/libGL.so.* ?
[16:18] <pwca> /usr/local/lib/libGL.so.1.2.0 -> /usr/lib/nvidia-349/libGL.so.1
[16:21] <cc> oh
[16:22] <surgy> has anyone used a huion graphics tablet? i have read mixed reviews. some say it works well on kernel 3.12 and im obviously running kernAl 3.19. so am i good to go or not?
[16:22] <XLV> ok, i am getting somewhere.. i could once again add the 1920x1200 modeline and use that mode through xrandr.. problem is now why isnt the the xorg defaulting on that
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> surgy  #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:23] <surgy> MonkeyDust, a compatibility question is offtopic?
[16:25] <daftykins> kk0710: i just don't believe in ever keeping factory installs, they're bloated and inefficient
[16:25] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/500141/huion-h610-tablet surgy this one?
[16:26] <jasabella> hi
[16:26] <daftykins> hi
[16:26] <brainwash> hi
[16:27] <daftykins> any support questions? :>
[16:28] <surgy> uh yeah i asked one
[16:29] <surgy> huion tablet is compatible with ubuntu 15 or not?
[16:29] <daftykins> well i more meant for the recent joiners, i saw yours and have no idea
[16:30] <bazhang> surgy, and I gave a response, with a link
[16:31] <OerHeks> surgy, here is more than one huion tablet, which one?
[16:32] <surgy> daftykins, ok thank you
[16:32] <surgy> ok hers a good one. :: i hate unity and i want gnome. the real gnome. how do i get it? whats the package name?
[16:32] <surgy> OerHeks, huion 580
[16:32] <daftykins> gnome-desktop?
[16:33] <daftykins> or you could have MATE and experience the old v2 style
[16:33] <OerHeks> gnome2 is dead.
[16:33] <surgy> daftykins, i have linux because i have a specific way i want things. i want to be able to customize. unity is horrible at this
[16:34] <daftykins> surgy: ok, sure - i don't need the full story though :)
[16:34] <surgy> daftykins, of course you dont.....
[16:34] <surgy> anyways the model is huion 580
[16:34] <ioria> pwca   ls /etc/ld.so.conf.d  ?
[16:34] <bazhang> surgy, yes it works
[16:34] <Parabola> ok, how do you make this trash distro honor standards? i need init 3 and grub "3" doesnt work, and "init 3" doesnt work
[16:34] <Parabola> i also cannot change TTYs
[16:35] <bazhang> !runlevels | Parabola
[16:35] <Parabola> ugh, why follow standards right
[16:35] <Parabola> thanks man
[16:35] <pwca> fakeroot-x86_64-linux-gnu.conf  i386-linux-gnu.conf  i386-linux-gnu_GL.conf  libc.conf  x86_64-linux-gnu.conf  x86_64-linux-gnu_GL.conf  x86_64-linux-gnu_GL.conf~  zz_i386-biarch-compat.conf
[16:36] <bazhang> Parabola, labeling ubuntu a trash distro, not the best way to get support in future
[16:36] <daftykins> Parabola: only been that way for a few years (:
[16:36] <Parabola> daftykins: not on real distros its not
[16:36] <daftykins> Parabola: again, bringing that childish attitude in here is a great way to get ignored :)
[16:36] <ioria> pwca   can you post zz_i386-biarch-compat.conf ?
[16:36] <Parabola> bazhang: yeah i know, i'm just shocked at some of the things done just to be different
[16:37] <bazhang> lets get back on topic please Parabola
[16:37] <Parabola> what topic is that
[16:37] <pwca> /usr/lib32
[16:37] <pwca> err, /lib32 first.
[16:37] <pwca> then /usr/lib32.
[16:37] <bazhang> Parabola, ubuntu tech support only , chit chat elsewhere
[16:38] <ioria> pwca   swap them
[16:38] <ioria> pwca   first /usr/lib32 and then /lib32
[16:39] <Parabola> bazhang: so theres no equivalent to runlevel 3?
[16:39] <soy_el_pulpo> PHPLearner: how it went?
[16:39] <pwca> ioria: still doesn't work.
[16:39] <Parabola> or 2|3|4 are equal and all should work?
[16:40] <pwca> I managed to delete some metapackage and not apt-get wants to autoremove my everything. what do I do?
[16:40] <ioria> pwca   wait, you have to run sudo ldconfig      .... but,  sotty, at your risk !  <-
[16:40] <pavlos> Parabola, 2..5 are equivalent
[16:40] <ioria> sorry
[16:40] <Parabola> pavlos: i want to remove my DEs.. so i need just an init 3 session. how do i do that
[16:40] <Parabola> i've been googling, i'm not finding what im looking for.. either i'm asking the wrong question, or i'm not understanding the answers.
[16:40] <pwca> ioria: I already did run sudo ldconfig!
[16:41] <pavlos> Parabola, you want to remove your Desktop Environment? so will be running text mode?
[16:41] <Parabola> yes
[16:41] <ioria> pwca   same error from glxinfo ?
[16:41] <Parabola> i'm going to install another, but yes
[16:41] <pwca> yeah, ioria.
[16:41] <daftykins> Parabola: log in at a TTY and stop lightdm, simple.
[16:42] <Parabola> daftykins: that would be great but i cannot change TTY, just black screen
[16:42] <Parabola> only F7 (X) works
[16:42] <daftykins> resolve your graphics driver issues first then
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> Parabola  ctrl alt F1
[16:42] <Xanather> someone else having graphical issues on ubuntu, how surprising
[16:42] <daftykins> Parabola: or boot with 'text' in place of quiet splash
[16:42] <Parabola> nice thanks
[16:42] <pwca> I think I just have to do a clean install.
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> Xanather  this is the support channel, people come here for problem solving, also graphical problems
[16:43] <ioria> pwca  did you update the nvidia drivers  ?
[16:44] <pwca> update?
[16:44] <ioria> pwca  yep
[16:44] <Xanather> i was sort of making a joke :P
[16:44] <Parabola> man unity really doesn't like being removed does it
[16:44] <Xanather> personally ive given up on ubuntu soley because nvidia drivers are so shit
[16:44] <pwca> ioria: since when? I have tried like 5 different drivers.
[16:45] <ioria> pwca  before the issue, i mean
[16:45] <Parabola> Xanather: Xanather nvidia drivers are great. i got crossfire, 144hz monitors and multidisplay working on AMD drivers
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> Xanather  yes, linux and nvidia are no friends
[16:45] <pwca> I upgraded Ubuntu.
[16:45] <Parabola> Xanather: you have it easy..
[16:45] <Parabola> !remove unity
[16:45] <Parabola> hm
[16:45] <Xanather> i couldn't even get vsync working properly
[16:45] <daftykins> Xanather: then why are you in here?
[16:45] <Parabola> !unity
[16:45] <Parabola> !nounity
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> Parabola  no need to remove, simply install another DE, logout, switch, login
[16:46] <pwca> I use the Gnome 3 version of Ubuntu.
[16:46] <pwca> Unity is painful.
[16:46] <ioria> pwca  on the client...  ls /boot ?
[16:46] <Parabola> MonkeyDust: i'd feel better being able to remove it, and its configs, i dont need conflicts causing ghost issues later on
[16:46] <Xanather> daftykins because i still ask questions sometimes
[16:46] <Xanather> i was insulting nvidia not ubuntu
[16:47] <pwca> ls /boot: abi-3.16.0-31-generic  config-3.16.0-31-generic  grub initrd.img-3.16.0-31-generic  memtest86+.bin  memtest86+_multiboot.bin      System.map-3.19.0-15-generic  vmlinuz-3.19.0-15-generic abi-3.19.0-15-generic  config-3.19.0-15-generic  initrd.img-3.16.0-23-generic  initrd.img-3.19.0-15-generic  memtest86+.elf  System.map-3.16.0-31-generic  vmlinuz-3.16.0-31-generic
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> Parabola  then better install a different ubuntu flavor
[16:47] <Parabola> hindsight right :)
[16:47] <Parabola> i picked ubuntu as a test to ensure i could get the fakeraid working properly, with windows dualboot
[16:47] <Parabola> i got it, took a while, and now i dont want to redo it.
[16:47] <ioria> pwca  try to boot with 3.16.0
[16:48] <Parabola> i'll get cinnamon on here and i should be happy enough
[16:50] <SirSkidmore> I keep getting an (initramfs) Unable to find medium containing live file system
[16:50] <SirSkidmore> I've turned on legacy usb
[16:51] <SirSkidmore> and switched my SATA controls from IDE to ACHI
[16:51] <SirSkidmore> which are the two recommendations I can find
[16:51] <groyal> part
[16:52] <Parabola> SirSkidmore: rebuild / update your initramfs images?
[16:52] <SirSkidmore> Parabola: this is on a liveUSB
[16:53] <Parabola> oh
[16:54] <daftykins> SirSkidmore: how'd you make the drive up? are you using motherboard-direct USB 2.0 ports?
[16:55] <SirSkidmore> daftykins: Rufus with GPT boottables for EFI
[16:55] <SirSkidmore> yes. 2.0 drive in a 2.0 port
[16:55] <daftykins> so you're modifying the default ISO?
[16:56] <SirSkidmore> I unplugged my USB wifi card and got it to boot, but couldn't get my mouse or keyboard to turn on, so I rebooted to look for a IOMMU option, rebooted again to the USB and it wouldn't boot anymore
[16:56] <SirSkidmore> daftykins: I've tried with Unetbootin
[16:56] <SirSkidmore> USBInstaller
[16:56] <SirSkidmore> and Rufus
[16:56] <SirSkidmore> and I've tried two of the setting on Rufus
[16:57] <daftykins> Universal USB Installer from pendrivelinux.com ?
[16:57] <daftykins> also have you MD5'd this ISO?
[16:57] <SirSkidmore> yes
[16:57] <SirSkidmore> it boots fine on my laptop
[16:58] <daftykins> so the troublesome one is some older generation desktop?
[16:59] <SirSkidmore> daftykins: not older gen
[16:59] <audia5> hey guys sudo crossystem dev_boot_usb=1   how to make this sign =
[17:00] <daftykins> SirSkidmore: oh?
[17:00] <SirSkidmore> daftykins: modern CPU. 8-core AMD processer, MSI mobo
[17:00] <daftykins> audia5: an equals sign? it's to the left of backspace, which is above enter for me
[17:01] <audia5> daftykins i have =0} and this on my keyboard
[17:01] <SirSkidmore> If I unplug everything, it boots, but plugging anything in doesn't turn them on
[17:01] <daftykins> SirSkidmore: latest BIOS?
[17:01] <SirSkidmore> but if I try to boot with a keyboard plugged in, it blows up
[17:01] <daftykins> sounds like your USB is wonky :)
[17:01] <daftykins> (technical term)
[17:01] <audia5> equal sign how to make it on my terminal
[17:02] <daftykins> audia5: i'm unsure what you're saying... your keyboard doesn't have equals? ==
[17:02] <xjorgex> audia5: escape it? i.e. \=
[17:02] <audia5> it has but i can not type in on my terminal i try diffrent keys but its not showing
[17:02] <SirSkidmore> daftykins: after it failed out and I tried to plug my keyboard in, it said USB device could not be enumerated or something like that
[17:03] <daftykins> SirSkidmore: mmm, doesn't sound very happy. are you using case USB or ports directly on the motherboard's rear IO Panel?
[17:04] <SirSkidmore> daftykins: directly on the board
[17:05] <SirSkidmore> daftykins: I actually have to run some errands though, I might just try again later
[17:05] <daftykins> so what of my BIOS version query?
[17:05] <SirSkidmore> daftykins: I think so but the MSI page is incredibly difficult to navigate to figure out
[17:06] <daftykins> SirSkidmore: give me the model # and i'll take a glance
[17:06] <daftykins> what's your current BIOS version at?
[17:06] <SirSkidmore> daftykins: E7640AMS V22.4
[17:08] <daftykins> SirSkidmore: so 990FXA-GD80?
[17:10] <SirSkidmore> daftykins: that looks right
[17:11] <SirSkidmore> but I can't seem to find the model number anywhere in the bios or on the board itself
[17:11] <daftykins> it should be hidden beside the PEG slot perhaps
[17:11] <SirSkidmore> aand I don't have the box or anything
[17:13] <ioria> SirSkidmore, sorry, are you sure you are uefi ?
[17:14] <daftykins> SirSkidmore: that boards offered BIOSs only go up to v13.15 for me on the MSI website
[17:14] <daftykins> *13.5
[17:14] <Guest41302> xm
[17:15] <Guest41302> Hello
[17:15] <SirSkidmore> daftykins: and the board says msi7640 version 4.0 but that brings up like 5 boards on the msi page
[17:15] <SirSkidmore> ioria: I guess not entirely
[17:16] <daftykins> SirSkidmore: ah slightly different then - http://www.msi.com/product/mb/890FXAGD70.html#hero-overview
[17:16] <daftykins> it's MS, not MSI for those model numbers typically
[17:17] <daftykins> SirSkidmore: they definitely have the model written between the black slots lower down, so i'd give it a good staring at with a torch/lamp ;)
[17:17] <SirSkidmore> daftykins: that doesn't look like my board but let me look again
[17:18] <daftykins> SirSkidmore: you tried dmidecode and lshw i take it? dmesg might also show some info about the board at the very top
[17:18] <SirSkidmore> http://us.msi.com/product/mb/990XAGD55.html#hero-overview
[17:18] <SirSkidmore> got it
[17:18] <SirSkidmore> that's it
[17:19] <daftykins> 23.2 is the latest then
[17:20] <SirSkidmore> daftykins: but will that solve the issue?
[17:21] <daftykins> do it, load the defaults, then try again
[17:21] <daftykins> well it won't hurt to try
[17:24] <SirSkidmore> daftykins: well, the bios comes in a exe
[17:24] <SirSkidmore> which I have windows on my desktop
[17:24] <SirSkidmore> but now I'm just getting blue screens >.>
[17:24] <daftykins> do or don't?
[17:24] <daftykins> sounds like your machine isn't stable then
[17:24] <daftykins> memtest o'clock
[17:27] <daftykins> SirSkidmore: oh if you only just changed SATA mode your Windows install will BSOD on boot, yeah
[17:27] <daftykins> you can't change it after you've put Windows on
[17:28] <SirSkidmore> daftykins: yeah reset back to default and got it working haha
[17:28] <SirSkidmore> thinking about just wiping everything
[17:28] <daftykins> well start with a memtest
[17:28] <SirSkidmore> not interested in dualbooting really
[17:30] <jiggerypokery> Anyone got one of the new Dell XPS laptops?
[17:30] <jiggerypokery> Trying to run ubuntu on it has just been misery wondering if anyone else has had better luck
[17:31] <daftykins> XPS 13?
[17:31] <daftykins> trying to run what, 15.04?
[17:31] <jiggerypokery> I've tried 14 too which is even worse
[17:32] <daftykins> so what happens with - 14.04? 14.10? which
[17:32] <jiggerypokery> Trackpad doesn't work, keyboard jams. Wifi won't connect for more than a second
[17:32] <jiggerypokery> 15.04 is much more stable
[17:32] <SirSkidmore> jiggerypokery: one of the newest xps machines? I have one of the previous models and everything runs fine
[17:33] <jiggerypokery> yeah
[17:33] <daftykins> FHD or QHD model?
[17:33] <jiggerypokery> I'm thinking of sending it back it is a trainwreck
[17:35] <monojin> !mate
[17:36] <monojin> !ubuntu-mate
[17:36] <pwca> I accidentally removed something a lot of packages dependend on and now apt-get wants to autoremove a lot of packages. how can I fix this?
[17:36] <daftykins> monojin: what are you looking for?
[17:36] <monojin> daftykins: recognition for the best flavor ; )
[17:37] <daftykins> there's no such thing as best.
[17:37] <monojin> daftykins: I know, that message was slightly facetious
[17:37] <hichamat> I want to give to a new user read permission to /var/log/apache
[17:38] <hasanja> list
[17:38] <daftykins> hichamat: it would make far more sense to modify the apache site to put logs in the path beside the document root
[17:39] <lighta> hi guys, assuming I have mount /home from another disk how to I access the original mount (prior to the mount) again ?, (I remenber there was a command to do so)
[17:39] <hasanja> exit
[17:39] <daftykins> lighta: as in you mounted /home on top of your original /home by mistake?
[17:40] <etronik> Guys... why is Firefox all of a sudden not running either Flash or Java contents ? I'm trying to access legit streaming site tennistv.com, but besides the page header and footer, all I get is ever circulating hourglass....
[17:40] <hichamat> daftykins no I can't, I created a new user and add him to vsftpd list, then I create a symbolic link to /var/log/apache in the user home directory, When I connect via ftp I can see the symbolic link but I can't access
[17:40] <lighta> na daftykins but I think I got it : http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/49345/accessing-files-hidden-by-mounted-drive
[17:40] <daftykins> hichamat: can't or won't?
[17:40] <SirSkidmore> daftykins: wow
[17:40] <SirSkidmore> updated and it worked
[17:40] <SirSkidmore> thank you very much!
[17:40] <daftykins> SirSkidmore: :D
[17:40] <daftykins> SirSkidmore: glad it worked out :) my pleasure
[17:41] <hichamat> daftykins I must give read permission to the new user ?
[17:41] <daftykins> hichamat: i don't think changing permissions on /var/log is a good idea.
[17:41] <daftykins> here be many dragons
[17:42] <hichamat> dalekleader what is the solution, I just want to give a user FTP access to /var/log/apache only
[17:42] <netlar> SirSkidmore: Skidmore middle name?
[17:43] <daftykins> hichamat: like i said, reconfigure the site to put the logs in a path that user has access to - best method 100%.
[17:43]  * IAmNotARobot is away: I'm busy
[17:43] <hichamat> daftykins I can tell apache to put log in two folders ? so I keep /var/log/apache and add /home/newuser/apache
[17:44] <daftykins> yes
[17:45] <daftykins> it can log sites independantly
[17:45] <hichamat> daftykins ah so this is a good solution, now I will look how to change apache configuration :) thank you very much
[17:50] <XLV> fixed it.. for whomever is interested the updated custom added xorg conf file is http://pastebin.com/dK0vxmCy
[17:50] <XLV> probably the naming of outputs has changed in recent drivers or something
[17:50] <daftykins> XLV: for what issue?
[17:51] <XLV> daftykins, <XLV> the whole setup is as follows.. two NASes based on msi c847 mbs , celeron 847 cpus.. they output through vga to an old kvm unit that doesnt support storing edid info of monitor.. so i had the problem, when the system booted and the kvm wasnt switched to that pc, the res defaulted to 1024x768
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 http://pastebin.com/hRu2CCdV this is the added conf i have added in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[17:53] <Samul`> hi guys
[17:53] <daftykins> hi
[17:53] <Samul`> I've got a problem with youtube flash player on firefox, ubuntu 15.04 64 bit
[17:53] <Samul`> the problem is:
[17:53] <daftykins> youtube's HTML5 player not working for you?
[17:54] <Samul`> when a video is running and I stop it, the video immediately stops, but the audio goes on for about half a second. when I play it again, the video goes on for about half a second without audio
[17:54] <Samul`> daftykins: I don't really like html5 player
[17:54] <Samul`> it's kinda laggy
[17:54] <daftykins> well flash is old and buggy so i'd not really expect anything to change
[17:54] <daftykins> you could test the guest session or a clean profile perhaps
[17:55] <Parabola> daftykins: would you say installing the 'xubuntu-desktop' package on an ubuntu install with unity removed is a bad idea?
[17:55] <daftykins> or maybe your graphics driver is sub-optimal
[17:55] <Samul`> OK I'mma try the html5 player
[17:55] <Samul`> since I've heard too many times that flash player is the past
[17:55] <daftykins> Parabola: depends how you removed unity
[17:55] <Parabola> fair point
[17:55] <Parabola> most likely incorrectly, purged the unity package, cleaned up obviously unity-something packages
[17:55] <daftykins> if you took all the packages mentioned in ubuntu-desktop and purged them, that'd be good
[17:56] <Samul`> one more thing that I'd like to know
[17:56] <daftykins> there are probably guides online that say how to do it properly though, i don't use desktop
[17:56] <Parabola> gotcha
[17:56] <Samul`> since on windows it was the default setting for firefox, I'd like to know how to do it on ubuntu:
[17:56] <Parabola> i didnt remove ubuntu-desktop for fear of breaking things :)
[17:56] <Samul`> in the url bar, I want the entire url to be selected upon click
[17:56] <daftykins> it's just a meta package.
[17:57] <Samul`> like I left click in the url bar, and the whole link gets selected so that I can copy or delete it
[17:57] <Samul`> how can I do that?
[17:57] <Samul`> guess I have something to do in the about:config page
[17:57] <surgy_> hello
[17:57] <Samul`> hi
[17:57] <vonsyd0w> Samul`, you could just double click to select all the text
[17:57] <surgy_> i just switched to gnome 3 which is awesome
[17:57] <irisk> Samul`: Ctrl+L
[17:57] <Samul`> that's not actually what I want
[17:58] <surgy_> but blender is not in the gnome panel. how do i fix this? i did install blender from the repos
[17:58] <daftykins> Samul`: i don't understand what you mean, nothing gets auto copied in FF on Windows for me
[17:58] <Samul`> I want the whole link to get selected upon single click
[17:58] <Samul`> I don't mean it gets copied
[17:58] <Samul`> but selected
[17:58] <Samul`> it turnes blue/orange
[17:58] <vonsyd0w> one more click will do it
[17:58] <irisk> ctrl+L selects -_-
[17:58] <Samul`> I know irisk
[17:58] <irisk> not copies
[17:58] <daftykins> must say i always use ctrl+L myself :>
[17:58] <Samul`> but I want it to get done upon click
[17:58] <daftykins> or click in then ctrl+A
[17:58] <irisk> perfectionist...
[17:59] <s_spiff> hey guys  I htave a discrete graphic card as well as a integrated
[17:59] <s_spiff> card
[17:59] <daftykins> s_spiff: ok...
[17:59] <s_spiff> both show up when I just enter lspci in the terminal
[17:59] <Samul`> heh daftykins, I don't feel comfortable if I have to do two things in order to get one done
[17:59] <stacks88> im not sure why, but for some reason in my sources.list at the bottom i have deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian trusty contrib , so i guess i have been getting virtualbox from them all along... now i commented it out, ran apt-get update;apt-cache search virtualbox and i see that its available under virtualbox-4.3 - Oracle VM VirtualBox , so what do you guys think i should do,
[17:59] <stacks88> keep using the download.virtualbox.org or should i just start using the one from ubuntu naturally? my sources.list has never changed except me adding that download.virtualbox.org line at the end of it
[17:59] <Parabola> daftykins: last question, i've got cinnamon on here atm, it appears that there are some GTK misisng packages, or just weirdness.. black borders, and the wallpaper settings dialog is missing resources, everything else appears to be okay
[17:59] <daftykins> Samul`: you must be very uncomfortable in front of a computer then ;)
[17:59] <s_spiff> but if i enter lspci | grep VGA, i get only integrated card showing up
[18:00] <Samul`> not actually
[18:00] <pwca> I accidentally removed something a lot of packages dependend on and now apt-get wants to autoremove a lot of packages. how can I fix this?
[18:00] <Samul`> I'm a coder (well kind of)
[18:00] <Samul`> but you know, if a thing can be done in one passage
[18:00] <Samul`> why should I do it in two, if it's the same result?
[18:00] <daftykins> s_spiff: right, so both lines don't have VGA in capitals in them...
[18:00] <daftykins> Parabola: sorry i'm not a desktop person.
[18:01] <s_spiff> daftykins, let me copy the output into pastebin
[18:01] <daftykins> s_spiff: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lspci | pastebinit
[18:02] <s_spiff> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10980058/
[18:02] <Parabola> daftykins: right, i dont know how i forgot that.. i'm wondering if just reinstalling unity would put back any missing resources adn i just leave that DE there as well
[18:02] <daftykins> s_spiff: good lord that's a lot of spam
[18:02] <Parabola> not sure what the official recommendations are on having multiple DEs installed
[18:03] <s_spiff> daftykins, sorry, kind of new to this
[18:03] <daftykins> s_spiff: so what's your actual query? i see you have a broadwell machine with an AMD Radeon HD 8890M beside it
[18:03] <daftykins> so hybrid graphics.. laptop?
[18:04] <ioria> s_spiff, did you check in bios ?
[18:05] <daftykins> ioria: we don't even know the issue yet? :>
[18:05] <ioria> right
[18:06] <daftykins> however i spy with my little eye, nomodeset being used
[18:06] <s_spiff> daftykins, the ive been trying to install the propreitary drivers ft or the amd card since last night. most of the time when I try the catalyst center, it tells me the drivers are not installed. i'm not back on the open source driver. I'm trying to figure out why the system doesnt have the discrete graphic card running
[18:06] <hichamat> I don't understand what this command do mount --bind /var/log /home/user/log
[18:06] <s_spiff> ioria, i have "switchable" in bios. other option is UMA, which disables the discrete and has only the intel running
[18:06] <Parabola> hichamat: man mount.
[18:06] <daftykins> s_spiff: what kind of computer is this?
[18:06] <s_spiff> daftykins, a lenovo y40 notebook
[18:07] <daftykins> hrmm
[18:07] <daftykins> s_spiff: alright so which ubuntu version is this?
[18:07] <daftykins> "cat /etc/issue"
[18:07] <s_spiff> 14.04 LTS Trusty
[18:07] <s_spiff> daftykins, 14.04 LTS Trusty
[18:07] <daftykins> and have you at any point tried to load AMD drivers via installing the package 'fglrx' ?
[18:07] <hichamat> Parabola the same contents is accessible in two places, but I'm confused about permissions
[18:07] <mgolisch> when trying to install 15.04 i end up on a login screen instead of in the installer, any ideas?
[18:07] <s_spiff> daftykins, several times last night.
[18:08] <daftykins> s_spiff: ok run this please: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" *THEN* "dpkg -l | grep fglrx | pastebinit"
[18:08] <s_spiff> daftykins, either by using the "additional Drivers" or by using the installer on amd'swebsite.
[18:08] <s_spiff> daftykins, ok
[18:09] <daftykins> s_spiff: the reason it's not working is you have nomodeset configured, you need to install a driver... then when you boot, hold left shift to get GRUB up... then try removing 'nomodeset'
[18:09] <s_spiff> daftykins, it says i'm trying to send an empty document for dpkg -l | grep fglrx | pastebinit
[18:09] <surgy_> when i switched to gnome 3 blender is not in the gnome panel. how do i fix this?
[18:09] <daftykins> ok no packages installed then
[18:10] <s_spiff> i guess because i've removed everything related to fglrx
[18:10] <daftykins> indeed!
[18:10] <daftykins> s_spiff: do you understand what i'm suggesting re: changing the GRUB boot options?
[18:10] <s_spiff> daftykins, i think so. let me disable nomodeset
[18:11] <daftykins> s_spiff: use the additional drivers program to throw fglrx back on, then reboot and try it by removing it for a one-time boot
[18:12] <s_spiff> daftykins, going to try it now. brb. thanks for the help!
[18:13] <daftykins> np
[18:13] <daftykins> weird something so new to be broadwell coming with AMD discrete 0o
[18:14] <s_spiff> daftykins, lenovo seems to be pushing out all their y series with amd discretes these days
[18:14] <s_spiff> brb time to reboot
[18:18] <ni886105> zzz
[18:20] <optik_9> are solid state drives writable or unwritable
[18:20] <s_spiff> daftykins, thanks! got it running. appreciate the help!
[18:21] <daftykins> s_spiff: great, you'll have to edit a file to permanently remove nomodeset from your kernel boot parameters
[18:21] <optik_9> can you be hacked using a solid state drive
[18:21] <daftykins> ...
[18:21] <bekks> optik_9: that sentence doesnt make any sense.
[18:22] <daftykins> optik_9: yes, you can be hacked running any form of disk storage :P
[18:22] <optik_9> well a website said that solid state drives are persistent
[18:22] <bekks> optik_9: Would be horrible if they werent persistent.
[18:22] <optik_9> kinda like once you put on your system to it you cant take it off
[18:22] <bekks> Thats not the meaning of "persistent".
[18:22] <optik_9> oh
[18:23] <bekks> They are as persistent as your legacy harddisks.
[18:23] <optik_9> okay i see
[18:23] <optik_9> so how does your tablet pcs keep the system installed for later installation without wiping that part of it out
[18:23] <optik_9> is it on a non writable disk
[18:24] <bekks> optik_9: ??
[18:25] <optik_9> can i just create a full operating system on a blueray non writable disk and run it out of ram and not get hacked since the disk is the os and the os is unwritable
[18:25] <optik_9> if i write my own os
[18:25] <optik_9> the only loophole is the ram
[18:25] <daftykins> no, because not getting hacked involves keeping software up to date
[18:25] <xangua> never heard or a linux distro on a blueray
[18:25] <daftykins> by having WORM boot media you can't update = you will get hacked more.
[18:25] <optik_9> hrm doubt it
[18:25] <daftykins> but your idea of getting hacked anyway is a very paranoid starting point for computing usage
[18:25] <XLV> optik_9, tablets have a recovery partition with initial OS files and settings, that one is write protected in regular use
[18:26] <daftykins> doubt what?
[18:26] <optik_9> why viruses are always popping up on the pc
[18:26] <XLV> optik_9, but its not unwritable. you can write it when you update the tablet's OS
[18:26] <optik_9> that a computer os i write is hackable
[18:26] <daftykins> viruses are very 90s
[18:26] <optik_9> there still around full time
[18:26] <kokut> Hello, anyone knows how to access the java control panel in ubuntu?
[18:26] <xangua> optik_9: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[18:26] <optik_9> yes is ubuntu a good os to use
[18:26] <optik_9> then i'll leave
[18:27] <Parabola> it depends on who you ask, and what your experience is
[18:28] <Parabola> thats like saying is a honda a good car.
[18:28] <Parabola> sure if you want a plastic appliance that has a low TCO.
[18:28] <Parabola> tldr; be smarter, ask a real question
[18:28] <bekks> Parabola: Which is a lie, as everyone knows it ;)
[18:28] <daftykins> optik_9: it is as long as you don't try to run it from optical media ;)
[18:28] <xangua> or from a blueray :P
[18:28] <hasa> exit
[18:29] <Parabola> i personally don't like ubuntu, i spend my work days supporting RHEL and CentOS, so anything outside of the way they do things is likely to annoy me
[18:29] <Parabola> if you want a distro with a wide desktop user base, this is it
[18:29] <daftykins> it's called bluray
[18:29] <Parabola> technically its blu-ray
[18:29] <daftykins> hey as long as there's no 'e' i'm happy
[18:29] <daftykins> ;D
[18:30] <Parabola> hehe
[18:30] <Parabola> daftykins: so i know you dont care, but installed xubuntu-desktop, removed a bunch of junk and it seems to be "ok" so far
[18:30] <daftykins> good stuff
[18:30] <daftykins> obviously in future you can just get direct media
[18:31] <Parabola> yeah, i realized that after i did all this :)
[18:31] <daftykins> i figured you didn't want to reinstall
[18:31] <Parabola> i really dont want to deal with the fakeraid again no
[18:31] <Parabola> granted, it would take considerably less time now since i know what shortcomings or oversights have occured and how to get around them
[18:32] <Parabola> like not loading any raid drivers into the initramfs images when the install was done to a raid array
[18:32] <xangua> Parabola: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/pure-ubuntu-15-04/
[18:32] <Parabola> ha thats awesome, thanks!
[18:32] <xangua> there ir a factoid for that, but the links are outdated
[18:32] <xangua> !purexfce
[18:33] <theRealGent> Why can I not apt-get install ffmpeg on 12.04?
[18:33] <audia5> anyone who uses chromebook
[18:33] <xangua> oh that's only for "pure ubuntu/unity" sorry Parabola
[18:33] <Parabola> no worries, still bookmarked
[18:33] <Parabola> theRealGent: i dont know you tell us, you're the guy with the error message.. learn to ask a question
[18:33] <petrvs> theRealGent: should be able to, from security repo?
[18:34] <petrvs> audia5: sure
[18:34] <theRealGent> Parabola, well it seems to not exist.
[18:34] <Parabola> theRealGent: apt-cache search ffmpeg
[18:34] <Parabola> or, if thats too specific depending on what they named it
[18:34] <Parabola> apt-cache search mpeg |grep -i ff
[18:34] <audia5> petrvs: i am on acer chromebook terminal and i want to boot from usb
[18:35] <theRealGent> Parabola, libav-tools shows up. But I have that installed but no ffmpeg command.
[18:35] <daftykins> afaiui since some version ffmpeg got booted out in place of avconv or whatever it's called
[18:35] <theRealGent> Ubuntu's situation with ffmpeg/h264 is pretty screwed up.
[18:35] <daftykins> theRealGent: ^
[18:35] <audia5> petrvs sudo crossystem dev_boot_usb=1  is this correct
[18:35] <Parabola> first google result https://gist.github.com/xdamman/e4f713c8cd1a389a5917
[18:35] <theRealGent> daftykins, yes! Thank you!
[18:36] <audia5> petrvs: do you know how to boot chromebook from usb
[18:36] <petrvs> audia5: which chromebook is it?
[18:36] <daftykins> audia5: chromebooks require a little hacking to run ubuntu, plenty of guides online if you search for your model
[18:36] <Parabola> damnit, it uninstalled pidgin
[18:37] <audia5> petrvs: iam acer  chromebook
[18:37] <petrvs> audia5: which one?
[18:37] <audia5> c720
[18:37] <petrvs> audia5: you're in luck, I have that very chromebook
[18:37] <daftykins> haha.
[18:37] <petrvs> let me find those instructions I saved
[18:37] <audia5> k
[18:38] <petrvs> audia5: http://dpaste.com/35A2NCJ.txt
[18:38] <irisk> hey, can java applets run on ubuntu?
[18:39] <petrvs> irisk: yup
[18:39] <irisk> on chromium?
[18:39] <irisk> it's not working
[18:39] <petrvs> most likely
[18:39] <petrvs> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[18:39] <irisk> what do I have to do?
[18:39] <daftykins> you'd have to find a working java plugin for chrome, they dropped NPAPI so there'd have to be an alternative
[18:39] <daftykins> might only be doable with FF
[18:39] <audia5> petrvs ohh do i need to screw on it
[18:40] <petrvs> audia5: well, if you want to do a proper install, yes
[18:40] <petrvs> audia5: it's really not that bad, especially if you have my instructions
[18:40] <irisk> i don't like FF
[18:40] <daftykins> we don't support non-native installs here :)
[18:40] <daftykins> irisk: well, you may not have a choice
[18:40] <petrvs> irisk: why not?
[18:40] <irisk> it's ugly
[18:41] <daftykins> lets deal in absolutes rather than personal opinions :)
[18:41] <irisk> plus,
[18:41] <audia5> petrvs  can i  not just boot from usb on chroomebook i have bootable usb
[18:41] <irisk> it doesn't have mobile emulation
[18:41] <irisk> for webdev
[18:41] <theRealGent> Damn is it complicated to merge two video files with a utility like avconv..
[18:41] <petrvs> audia5: I think you can, but there are various things you won't be able to do without the full process
[18:41] <petrvs> theRealGent: it kind of is these days
[18:41] <petrvs> it used to be simple, but they changed it
[18:42] <petrvs> mkvmerge from mkvtoolnix makes it real simple
[18:42] <petrvs> mkvmerge -o new old1 + old2
[18:42] <petrvs> ask #ffmpeg about their own ways
[18:42] <petrvs> irisk: it looks however you want it, and yes, it has mobile emulation
[18:43] <petrvs> which you don't actually need, but it has anyway
[18:43] <xangua> irisk: have you check firefox developer edition¿
[18:43] <irisk> i have the standard one which comes with ubuntu
[18:43] <petrvs> that one has "mobile emulation"
[18:44] <irisk> well, there are some extensions that i have
[18:44] <irisk> that i cannot manage without
[18:44] <irisk> that are not on FF
[18:45] <daftykins> look, regardless of your preference you may have issues finding a java plugin for chrome, so have a look at that first
[18:45] <irisk> yess,
[18:45] <irisk> ofc
[18:45] <petrvs> irisk: that's not the worst reason I ever heard
[18:45] <petrvs> though they're probably all available for Firefox, heh
[18:45] <theRealGent> petrvs, this is INSANE. Apparently there's a "fake" ffmpeg in libav, and a real ffmpeg from Ffmpeg. And the only resources i can find on how to install ffmpeg is to compile from source, and it requires a metric fuckton of libraries and dependencies. How is there not a package for this/
[18:45] <petrvs> theRealGent: there is
[18:45] <theRealGent> I used to advise Ubuntu to most people to avoid issues like these..
[18:45] <theRealGent> petrvs, I did an apt-cache search and couldnt find this package?
[18:45] <daftykins> theRealGent: #1 don't use that language here please, #2 i'm sure you can find a PPA where it's already compiled for you
[18:46] <petrvs> theRealGent: well, it's an issue inherited from Debian, and a lot of issues fell into the trap recently
[18:46] <theRealGent> daftykins, my apologies.
[18:46] <petrvs> theRealGent: that's another problem, it's available for 12.04
[18:46] <petrvs> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=names&suite=all&section=all&keywords=ffmpeg
[18:46] <ioria> theRealGent, have you tried the .deb http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/all/ffmpeg/download
[18:46] <jiggerypokery> I'm running 15.04 and every time I try to run yum install on a virtualbox guest my entire computer freezes
[18:47] <jiggerypokery> anyone got any ideas?
[18:47] <petrvs> jiggerypokery: what kind of hardware?
[18:47] <theRealGent> petrvs apt-get complains there is no installation candidate.
[18:47] <jiggerypokery> Intel i7 processor 16 gigs of ram
[18:48] <daftykins> sounds like an IO issue to me
[18:48] <OerHeks> jiggerypokery, yum in an Ubuntu vm?
[18:48] <Pandorian> where is the .icons dir in ubuntu 15?
[18:48] <bekks> jiggerypokery: Show us a complete dmesg output please - I already asked you that in #vbox for three times.
[18:48] <Pandorian> cant find where i'm supposed to move the icons
[18:49] <jiggerypokery> its a centos vm on ubuntu host
[18:49] <theRealGent> petrvs, is there something special Im supposed to do for this? use a different version of ubuntu? modify my sources.list?
[18:49] <jiggerypokery> bekks: This is awkward because that is the complete output I really don't know what to do about it
[18:49] <theRealGent> ioria, shouldnt that be available from my package manager?
[18:50] <petrvs> theRealGent: not that I'm aware of
[18:50] <bekks> jiggerypokery: So whats the output of "dmesg | wc -l"?
[18:50] <kickit2> Hey everyone - using arno-iptables-firewall on a machine that routes ALL traffic though a VPN.  no matter how I define their start order under rd*.d, arno always starts first and then gives an error about tun0 not existing yet.  Is there another area that would start the firewall earlier than is defined in rc?
[18:50] <ioria> theRealGent, be removed, i think
[18:50] <bekks> little character l, not one.
[18:50] <petrvs> theRealGent: says security repo, all I know
[18:50] <stacks88> are config files ever likely to actually be in /usr/share ? or is /usr/share just like where read only copies go or something? Cauuse i see there is /etc/powerdns/pdns.conf and im pretty sure /etc/powerdns/pdns.conf is the real config file .. its just that there is /usr/share/pdns-server/pdns.conf and stuff like that
[18:51] <ioria> theRealGent, it was deprecated in 14 and reintalled in 15 if i'm not wrong
[18:51] <jiggerypokery> 983 bekks
[18:51] <kickit2> start order MUST be networking, openvpn, firewall - right now its networking, firewall, openvpn
[18:51] <petrvs> he's on 12
[18:52] <theRealGent> Sorry, Im on 14.04 LTS
[18:52] <theRealGent> I'm still thinking back to the days of 12.04 LTS xD
[18:52] <ioria> theRealGent, you saind 12.04
[18:52] <ioria> ok
[18:52] <theRealGent> ioria, I was wrong and I apologize.
[18:52] <ioria> theRealGent, you can build from source, then
[18:52] <Pandorian> does anyone have any idea where the .icons folder in ubuntu 15 is?
[18:52] <theRealGent> ioria, I was really hoping to avoid doing that. The instructions are like an entire wiki in itself.
[18:53] <petrvs> theRealGent: libav should work the same if that's all you can get simply
[18:53] <daftykins> theRealGent: so you can _still_ look for an ffmpeg PPA as i mentioned earlier
[18:53] <theRealGent> daftykins, I'll give that a try.
[18:53] <ioria> theRealGent, no, it's a configure  , and make (don't reccomedn the make install) if a remember well
[18:53] <petrvs> part of what makes libav superfluous is that it works about the same
[18:53] <petrvs> :p
[18:53] <theRealGent> petrvs, I've been trying to use avconv but from what I can see online it uses slightly different arguments.
[18:54] <theRealGent> For video concatenation, which is what I want to do.
[18:54] <theRealGent> ffmpeg seems to have this nice feature where you can just -i "input" a bunch of files and spit out an output.
[18:54] <theRealGent> avconv requires some -concat:"file|file|file" syntax with a bunch of filters regarding decoders and other things I've never researched or understood.
[18:55] <petrvs> theRealGent: they're both like that now
[18:55] <petrvs> you're comparing old ffmpeg and new ffmpeg/libav
[18:55] <petrvs> alas :p
[18:55] <petrvs> the old way was far simpler
[18:55] <petrvs> I'm not sure the old way is 100% unsupported, or if the docs for it are just obliterated
[18:55] <petrvs> #ffmpeg would know
[18:55] <ioria> theRealGent, however there is a ppa
[18:56] <jiggerypokery> daftykins: were you talking to me when you said you thought it was an io issue?
[18:56] <SirSkidmore> daftykins: just got everything installed and I'm up and running
[18:56] <SirSkidmore> thanks again for the help
[18:56] <kickit2> Is there a way to make startup sit and wait until a network connection is established?  It starts it and then continues on right now, and that causes errors (as the connection isn't complete)
[18:56] <theRealGent> petrvs, glad to see we're moving forward. /s
[18:56] <petrvs> theRealGent: heh, it's possible I just forgot the old way, too
[18:56] <xangua> kickit2: you can add a delay
[18:56] <petrvs> theRealGent: you tried ffmpeg -i foo -i bar -map 0 -c copy baz ?
[18:57] <kickit2> xangua: and where is that delay specified?
[18:57] <surgy_> i installed blender on ubuntu unity. and then i decided unity is worthless  so i installed gnome 3. now blender is not in my launcher. i have restarted gnome several times. and blender is in my /usr/share/applications folder
[18:57] <daftykins> jiggerypokery: yup
[18:57] <daftykins> SirSkidmore: cool :)
[18:58] <theRealGent> petrvs, yes. I'm not following the method in the ffmpeg wiki with -i concat: and it sorta works-ish. The output video is shorter than expected and hangs on one frame at the end for the rest of the video.
[18:59] <petrvs> yeah I couldn't even get it to work
[18:59] <petrvs> talk to #ffmpeg
[18:59] <xangua> kickit2: first google result http://www.howtogeek.com/189995/how-to-manage-startup-applications-in-ubuntu-14.04/
[18:59] <theRealGent> lol this is ad.
[18:59] <theRealGent> sad*
[18:59] <petrvs> it's sad in a way
[18:59] <petrvs> but ffmpeg is always being developed, and this happens
[18:59] <petrvs> always being developed is good
[19:00] <jiggerypokery> daftykins: possibly, sometimes after the freezes when I restart I get internal error reports that mention paging issues.
[19:00] <surgy_> i installed blender on ubuntu unity. and then i decided unity is worthless  so i installed gnome 3. now blender is not in my launcher. i have restarted gnome several times. and blender is in my /usr/share/applications folder
[19:00] <petrvs> it's unfortunate they don't put a little more thought into future proofed syntax and change only the backend, though, ,heh
[19:00] <kickit2> xangua: This system is a server - and I'm not talking about applications after login, im talking about adding delays to system services startups.. for instance, delay 5 seconds after starting the networking service.
[19:00] <jiggerypokery> would that be consistent? (I am really out of my depth here)
[19:00] <daftykins> jiggerypokery: you're not using old hard disks on that machine perhaps? for either OS or VM storage?
[19:00] <xangua> kickit2: oh sourry, you can also ask in #ubuntu-server they might be more helpful than IO
[19:00] <xangua> than I
[19:00] <vonsyd0w> jiggerypokery, what kind of resources did you allocate to your VM?
[19:01] <kickit2> xangua: thanks - ill try that
[19:03] <jiggerypokery> it is an ssd
[19:03] <theRealGent> petrvs, so what is up with this libav avconv ffmpeg real and fake stuff?
[19:03] <surgy_> http://www.pasteall.org/pic/87693
[19:05] <petrvs> theRealGent: oh it's a long story, but if you can easily get libav and not ffmpeg, you should be fine until you can easily get ffmpeg again
[19:06] <jiggerypokery> vonsyd0w: 1 gig ram 1cpu but that same config works fine on my OSX machine
[19:08] <irisk> okay, i installed icedTea for jnlp from the software center. web start still not working
[19:08] <irisk> on FF
[19:08] <pgulley> Hey! I've got a package installation question. Is this the right place for it?
[19:08] <Pandorian> does anyone have any idea where the .icons folder in ubuntu 15 is?
[19:09] <Pandorian> or why it has disappeared?
[19:10] <xangua> Pandorian: there has never been an /.icons directoy in home if that's what you ask, you need to create it first
[19:10] <pgulley> I'm on chrubuntu, trying to install the nvidia-cuda-toolkit package via apt-get, but am getting a "no installation candidate" error.
[19:10] <Pandorian> oh yea? i see
[19:11] <Pandorian> thanks
[19:12] <jiggerypokery> daftykins: The machine has an NFS mounted drive, could that be related?
[19:12] <jiggerypokery> I am totally out of my depth and don't know where to begin debugging this
[19:14] <s_spiff> daftykins, turns out remove nomodeset breaks hibernate recovery. So now it's either choose between amd drivers or hibernate. :/
[19:22] <surgy_> why isnt blender in the gnome3 panel????
[19:23] <c0mr88> Hello.
[19:25] <pragmaticenigma> theRealGent, you will be happy to know that ffmpeg was restored in 15.04
[19:26] <theRealGent> pragmaticenigma, that does make me quite happy :)
[19:26] <ioria> ^_^
[19:28] <c0mr88> I am running Ubuntu 14.04.2 64 bit Desktop on an HP ProLiant ML110 G6 Server on VMware Workstation 8 and I gave it 4GB of RAM and 150GB of HDD space and it still runs slow and laggy.
[19:29] <pragmaticenigma> c0mr88, did you give it enough CPUs to work with? what about video ram (if this is a GUI install)
[19:31] <surgy_> nevermind i found the solution. thnx for everything....
[19:31] <jiggerypokery> I am at my wits end
[19:33] <fabiusp98> Hi
[19:34] <samuel706> Hi all, im very new to irc. Is there a way to remove the info for ppl entering and exiting the channel?
[19:35] <xangua> that depends on your irc client samuel706
[19:35] <_guest_> whats a good software similar to windows movie maker?
[19:35] <samuel706> pidgin
[19:36] <xangua> tools, plugins and enable the "hide join/leave" plugin samuel706
[19:36] <daftykins> s_spiff: heh, i never touch hibernation personally
[19:36] <xangua> tools, addons I believe in english, spanish here
[19:36] <samuel706> awesome, thank you!
[19:38] <Johnny_Linux> Movie maker replacements:  http://www.osalt.com/movie-maker
[19:38] <fabiusp98> For video editor http://www.pitivi.org/
[19:38] <cleber> Ola
[19:39] <samuel706> Works like a champ, I kept thinking it was some command for freenode.
[19:39] <fabiusp98> ola cleber, esto es un canal ingles
[19:40] <cleber> hello
[19:42] <boogie_> Could someone please walk me through installing flash player on 12.04? I've done it 20 times but this time I'm having lots of trouble.
[19:43] <boogie_> I used to use pepper flash, but it's not there anymore.
[19:43] <boogie_> Do I need to add a new repository?
[19:44] <fabiusp98> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer this shuld work
[19:44] <streulma> hello, I checked yesterday /sys/class/power and my computer stays always on battery. In the Power tool, AC adapter is online and battery is detected.
[19:47] <boogie_> Could someone please walk me through installing flash player on 12.04? I've done it 20 times but this time I'm having lots of trouble. I used to use pepper flash, but it's not there anymore. Do I need to add a new repository?
[19:48] <ZeZu> i think it's just called flashinstaller now or something, but idk haven't used 12.04 in a while
[19:48] <bekks> boogie_: Pepperflash is shipped by Chrome.
[19:51] <boogie_> Does chrome work as well as chromium now?
[19:51] <boogie_> If so, I can just install chrome
[19:51] <petrvs> as well for what?
[19:51] <ZeZu> chrome has worked for a long time
[19:52] <bekks> For longer than chromium :)
[19:52] <boogie_> General use. When chrome was just coming out it worked like crap so I stuck with chromium.
[19:52] <xangua> google chrome is based on chromium boogie_
[19:52] <vonsyd0w> its always worked in my case, chrome that is
[19:52] <petrvs> ah
[19:52] <ZeZu> i think that's backwards
[19:52] <ZeZu> just FYI
[19:52] <Lazik> na I remember, at first you could only run chromium
[19:52] <boogie_> Well, everything says chrome comes with flash now.
[19:52] <petrvs> dunno about that
[19:52] <bekks> Chromium is based on Chrome.
[19:52] <petrvs> but <shrug>
[19:53] <ZeZu> whether you could run it or not,  Chrome was first
[19:53] <Lazik> I always apt-get chromium now
[19:53] <petrvs> boogie_: it does, you can use flash with any browser, though
[19:53] <boogie_> But I dont have flash, but I have chromium. Is there a difference
[19:53] <ioria> boogie_, "    but it's not there anymore."  what you mean ?
[19:53] <Lazik> na chrome is based off chromium
[19:53] <bekks> Lazik: No.
[19:53] <vonsyd0w> yes it is
[19:53] <vonsyd0w> look it up
[19:53] <samuel706> what lazik said
[19:53] <bekks> boogie_: Chromium is stripped down.
[19:53] <petrvs> boogie_: Chromium should be superior overall
[19:53] <petrvs> since it's not build by Google goofs
[19:53] <xangua> boogie_: google chrome ships with propietary stuff
[19:53] <petrvs> built*
[19:53]  * ZeZu yawns
[19:54] <boogie_> When I search the ubuntu softwware center it only has the adobe flash for firefox
[19:54]  * petrvs yawns more better
[19:54] <ioria> boogie_, it's non free
[19:54] <ZeZu> indeed
[19:54] <petrvs> boogie_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Flash
[19:54] <boogie_> So how then could i install flash?
[19:54] <boogie_> Ty
[19:54] <ZeZu> boogie_, it'll do it for you
[19:55] <boogie_> Already tried that
[19:55] <boogie_> Its already chaecked
[19:55] <ZeZu> purge everything flash related, purge chrome, purge chromium
[19:55] <ioria> boogie_,  try sudo update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[19:55] <streulma> Bay Trail :)
[19:56] <ZeZu> then retry from a repo install for chrome itself
[19:56] <streulma> who is working with Baytrail ?
[19:56] <streulma> wo has the Asus X205TA ?
[19:56] <bekks> streulma: Whats the specific ubuntu support question behind your polls?
[19:56] <boogie_> said command not fouind. Should i put apt-get in there?
[19:56] <streulma> bekks, acpi 5.0 :)
[19:57] <streulma> my question is that power management not works good
[19:57] <bekks> streulma: Thats a statement, not a question.
[19:57] <Cydrobolt> hi
[19:57] <streulma> ho can I solve bekks ?
[19:57] <xangua> boogie_: so you did install pepperflashplugin-nonfree to begin with¿
[19:57] <Cydrobolt> one of my applications is stuck on HDMI audio
[19:57] <streulma> bekks  I checked yesterday /sys/class/power and my computer stays always on battery. In the Power tool, AC adapter is online and battery is detected.
[19:58] <Cydrobolt> I'm trying to change the audio output to analog audio
[19:58] <Cydrobolt> but it is stuck on hdmi and won't move
[19:58] <Cydrobolt> hdmi cord is unplugged, obviously, so there is no output from there
[19:58] <Cydrobolt> all other applications work fine
[19:58] <Cydrobolt> but java doesn't have audio
[19:59] <bekks> streulma: and whats the issue with that?
[19:59] <ZeZu> Cydrobolt,  applications very rarely control such things,  generally ALSA configures everything ...
[19:59] <Cydrobolt> yeah
[19:59] <Cydrobolt> it won't let me change the output, however
[19:59] <streulma> bekks shows always battery icon. In power tool AC adapter is recognised as Online, Time is showed when on battery efective
[19:59] <ZeZu> what won't?
[20:00] <Cydrobolt> the audio output of all the other apps can be changed just fine, but Java's sound output is stuck ZeZu (in pavucontrol)
[20:00] <boogie_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10980796/
[20:00] <bekks> streulma: I do nderstand that, but whats the issue at that point? How does it affect whatever you are doing?
[20:00] <boogie_> Here is the outcome of my attempts
[20:00] <bekks> *do understand
[20:00] <ioria> boogie_,  in synaptic is present
[20:00] <ZeZu> oh java ... fun,  idk about that never had any issues,  perhaps switch to another java
[20:00] <ZeZu> like Sun Java
[20:00] <boogie_> ioria how do I check?
[20:00] <streulma> bekks, ah, it's no isue ?
[20:01] <Cydrobolt> well
[20:01] <Cydrobolt> it worked fine before
[20:01] <ZeZu> (i'm guessing it defaults to a free/free java runtime)
[20:01] <ioria> boogie_,  open it and type pepper
[20:01] <Cydrobolt> after I plugged in my HDMI cord, it died
[20:01] <Cydrobolt> before it was fine :/
[20:01] <bekks> streulma: Thats what I am asking you. How does it affect whatever you are doing?
[20:01] <ioria> boogie_,  non free, not source
[20:01] <ZeZu> so it switched over and won't switch back huh?  thats lame
[20:01] <boogie_> ioria I find nothing when searching for synaptic
[20:02] <ZeZu> I don't think synaptic is in main anymore
[20:02] <xangua> (14:57:46) xangua: boogie_: so you did install pepperflashplugin-nonfree to begin with¿
[20:02] <ioria> boogie_,  are you 14.04 ?
[20:02] <boogie_> 12.04
[20:02] <k1l_> boogie_: oh its a 12.04?
[20:02] <streulma> bekks I'll try again, better to install 15.04 or 14.04 ?
[20:02] <boogie_> Yep
[20:02] <bekks> streulma: 14.04
[20:02] <Cydrobolt> ZeZu, yeah, switched and won't switch back
[20:02] <ioria> boogie_,  well... i think is different :-)
[20:02] <boogie_> lol
[20:03] <boogie_> Iv e never had a problem because pepper was always there now its not smh
[20:03] <ZeZu> Cydrobolt, you'll have to see if someone else knows
[20:03] <Cydrobolt> :/
[20:04] <ZeZu> actually
[20:04] <ZeZu> purge the java runtime and install again ...
[20:04] <k1l> boogie_: install flashplugin-downloader
[20:04] <ZeZu> if it's just setting it should work
[20:04] <ZeZu> note: purge != remove
[20:05] <ioria> boogie_,  i  don't even remember if there was
[20:05] <ZeZu> remove won't kill all package settings
[20:09] <nicomachus> hi guys, I'm getting an error when I try to do package updates that says "The package system is broken"
[20:09] <nicomachus> Pretty much the same as this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2239327
[20:09] <nicomachus> OP doesn't say what his solution was though
[20:10] <k1l> nicomachus: please pastebin the output of "sudo apt update &&sudo apt full-upgrade"
[20:10] <nicomachus> output of apt-get update: paste.ubuntu.com/10980846/
[20:10] <boogie_> ioria do i add sudo apt-get in front of install flashplugin-downloader?
[20:11] <boogie_> ioria yeah i think this is gonna work
[20:11] <nicomachus> output of sudo apt full-upgrade: paste.ubuntu.com/10980850
[20:12] <boogie_> gonna restart my browser
[20:12] <kk0710> Hey guys I am thinking I might need a new router  Any recommendations of something that won't break the bank but will not cause me problems across multiple machies and operating systems? currently I have a linksys wrt120n
[20:13] <nicomachus> output of sudo apt-get -f install: paste.ubuntu.com/10980860
[20:13] <petrvs> kk0710: whatever's cheapest at walmart
[20:14] <kk0710> lol any other opinions?
[20:14] <kk0710> honestly I would just keep the wrt120n if it hadn't gotten screwedup with the firmware update
[20:15] <nicomachus> kk0710: who is your isp, what kind of speeds do you get, do any of your machines that will use the network support 802.11ac?
[20:15] <petrvs> wrt120n is what, $40?
[20:15] <petrvs> get something for $40 at walmart, then
[20:15] <kk0710> I have time warner
[20:15] <petrvs> the cheapest aren't much cheaper than that
[20:15] <petrvs> maybe 30
[20:15] <tedward>  #xps13
[20:15] <nicomachus> hahaha ok then, doesn't matter what you get.
[20:16] <petrvs> kk0710: time warner is irrelevant...
[20:16] <kk0710> some one asked me who I had petrvs
[20:16] <nicomachus> petrvs: if he has a fiber gbit connection, then AC might be something to think about.
[20:16] <kk0710> I loved my linksys stupid freaking firwmare update though and now I lose connection
[20:16] <k1l> nicomachus: try to change the mirror
[20:16] <petrvs> kk0710: ah =)
[20:16] <kk0710> if I could reset the firmware I would just do that
[20:16] <petrvs> can't you?
[20:16] <petrvs> no pin-hole button?
[20:16] <kk0710> I have old linksys routers I could throw on
[20:17] <kk0710> petrvs: that doesn't reset the firmware though
[20:17] <nicomachus> k1l: change the mirror?
[20:17] <audia5> petrvs: i am running chroome from usb with usb stick stil dunno how to install
[20:17] <nicomachus> kk0710: can't update the firmware through your network options?
[20:18] <kk0710> it is the most updated firmware
[20:18] <k1l> nicomachus: see at the systemsettings: software and updates
[20:18] <nicomachus> ah. bummer.
[20:18] <kk0710> I was having major problems on my ubuntu boot on my laptop with the realtek wireless
[20:18] <kk0710> I finally seemed to get things working with a backports fix
[20:18] <petrvs> audia5: I gave you the most explicit instructions you'll find anywhere
[20:19] <kk0710> but then the guy responded to my bug report and told me to update the firmware on my router, so I did.  Suddenly the problems came back ten fold.
[20:19] <audia5> petrvs yes thank you
[20:19] <kk0710> I reset the router and now I just lose my connection on all my devices it seems.
[20:20] <nicomachus> k1l: I switched from US Server to Main Server, error persists.
[20:20] <ubuntu-studio> how do i make my own server
[20:21] <audia5> going to sleep mode
[20:23] <tedward> anyone have suspend problems wint ubuntu 15.04?
[20:23] <nicomachus> tedward: elaborate
[20:23] <VFDPrim> afternoon all
[20:24] <k1l> nicomachus: "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*" then "sudo apt update &&sudo apt full-upgrade"
[20:24] <tedward> it appears to be random, sometimes works just fine, sometimes when it comes out capslock key will be blinking and the system unresponsive, laptop is the dell xps 13 2015
[20:24] <VFDPrim> any one elce having an issue with upgrade to 15.4
[20:25] <nicomachus> k1l: 'rm: cannot remove '/var/lib/apt/lists/partial': is a directory'
[20:25] <k1l> sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[20:26] <VFDPrim> I keep getting this wehn i try to upgrade any help is welcom
[20:26] <VFDPrim> Checking package manager
[20:26] <VFDPrim> Reading package lists... Done
[20:26] <VFDPrim> Building dependency tree
[20:26] <VFDPrim> Reading state information... Done
[20:26] <VFDPrim> Building data structures... Done
[20:26] <VFDPrim> Calculating the changes
[20:26] <VFDPrim> Calculating the changes
[20:26] <k1l> !paste | VFDPrim
[20:26] <tedward> VFDPrim, suince I did a nuke and pave to put on 15.04 not sure if that counts as upgrading
[20:27] <tortal_> so, let's say i installed eclipse in /opt, then added alias to it. was that a reasonable solution ? or should i add the eclipse bin patj to some PATH env ?
[20:27] <nicomachus> k1l: same unmet dependencies error. recommends -f
[20:27] <nicomachus> -f still gives same errors.
[20:27] <k1l> nicomachus: so you use ppas?
[20:27] <nicomachus> yes
[20:27] <k1l> ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[20:28] <VFDPrim> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10980937/
[20:28] <tedward> alias will work tortal, but if you are concern you could make a symbolic link to the binary to the bin directory of your choice
[20:28] <k1l> VFDPrim: what gives you "lsb_release -d"?
[20:29] <nicomachus> k1l: output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10980945
[20:29] <VFDPrim> ill post the hole thing from comand to upgrade
[20:29] <VFDPrim> one sec
[20:29] <tortal_> teward: about that - will it not make the folder of the package managers "dirty" ?
[20:29] <k1l> nicomachus: so any ppa is interfering with that packages?
[20:29] <tortal_> teward: will a symbolic link in usr/local be reasonable ?
[20:29] <tedward> it will in some senses, but I can't think of a problem it would cause, though if anyone knows better please say so
[20:30] <VFDPrim> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10980952/
[20:30] <nicomachus> k1l: not that I can see
[20:30] <tedward> as long as usr/local is in your $PATH
[20:30] <k1l> VFDPrim: please show in a paste the log in /var/log/dist-upgrade/
[20:31] <tedward> tortal is ecllipse not in the repos?
[20:31] <VFDPrim> k1l what you mean
[20:31] <VFDPrim> what code i gave it to do that
[20:32] <k1l> VFDPrim: see in /var/log/dist-upgrade/ there should be logs from the failed upgrade. please paste that so we can have a look what is blocking
[20:32] <tortal_> tedward: greeat, thanks
[20:32] <VFDPrim> how do i pull that up
[20:32] <tedward> your welcome
[20:33] <VFDPrim> sorry kinda dumb when it comes to the terminal
[20:33] <nicomachus> k1l: you won't believe it... apparently running sudo apt-get clean fixed the problem.
[20:33] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: run this: cd /var/log/dist-upgrade/
[20:33] <nicomachus> then: ls
[20:34] <nicomachus> the files that show up are the logs
[20:34] <nicomachus> not sure which one k1l wants
[20:34] <VFDPrim> lshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/10980976/
[20:35] <k1l> VFDPrim: 20150503-1525
[20:36] <VFDPrim> k1l what do you want me to do i put that into the term and it did nothing
[20:36] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: as long as you're still in the same terminal, type: gedit 20150503-1525
[20:37] <nicomachus> should open a text window of the log. copy/paste
[20:37] <k1l> VFDPrim: ok. to explain again: that file is the log which will tell us what is blocking your system from updateing (i bet its a ppa package but we need to know which one). so either you look inside that and fix it yourself or you provide us the file in a pastebin
[20:37] <VFDPrim> told me to check and make sure location was correct
[20:38] <k1l> 20150503-... is a directory. you will need to "cd" to that and then look into the log files in there
[20:38] <helpmoe> hi
[20:38] <helpmoe> Help me please
[20:38] <VFDPrim> k1l im trying to do what you say so you can help however i need as lamen as you can get i am sorry
[20:38] <nicomachus> helpmoe: ask your question.
[20:39] <helpmoe> I downloaded ubuntu desktop
[20:39] <helpmoe> and burned it on usb
[20:39] <Vapoor> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Steam-for-Linux-Usage-Drops-Dramatically-in-April-It-s-Now-Under-1-479973.shtml
[20:39] <helpmoe> it seems like it installed on usb
[20:39] <helpmoe> LOL
[20:39] <nicomachus> Vapoor: #ubuntu-offtopic may like that
[20:40] <EriC^^> helpmoe: that's a live session, to try ubuntu before installing or fix an installation
[20:40] <helpmoe> yeah i know that
[20:40] <helpmoe> wait
[20:40] <helpmoe> i did the installer
[20:40] <helpmoe> and it said restart
[20:40] <helpmoe> then gave me some boot error
[20:40] <helpmoe> :/
[20:40] <Vapoor> good job linux community if everyone was playing games who would develop linux then?
[20:40] <nicomachus> helpmoe: yea, when you restart you need to pull the USB out.
[20:40] <k1l> VFDPrim: "cd 20150503...." then "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit main.log"
[20:41] <helpmoe> there we go
[20:41] <Vapoor> and why was a kicked?
[20:41] <helpmoe> lemme try
[20:41] <nicomachus> lol
[20:42] <VFDPrim> k1l messed up so starting it over let me get back to it real fast
[20:45] <kat> guys, i had to clean install and get minecraft downloaded again. BUT, you have to "open" minecraft with openjdk7 or something like that, and I can't find it in my applications.
[20:46] <kat> It's just not on top of the list like it usually is.
[20:46] <OerHeks> kat see the !java facoid
[20:46] <OerHeks> !java
[20:46] <bekks> kat: you have to start it like this: java -jar yourfile.jar
[20:47] <kat> and then what?
[20:48] <VFDPrim> K1l this is where im at now http://paste.ubuntu.com/10981032/
[20:49] <kat> bekks it says "command not found"
[20:49] <bekks> kat: So you have to install java.
[20:49] <k1l> VFDPrim: yep, do it (without the last ")
[20:50] <VFDPrim> k1l: just sits there like this >
[20:50] <kat> when I was clean installing, I saw it get installed. maybe?
[20:50] <k1l> VFDPrim: press ctrl+c to abort. then "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[20:50] <kat> so what should i install?
[20:50] <tedward> kat type "locate java" in a terminal
[20:50] <kat> ok
[20:51] <nicomachus> whoa, tedward, you can do that?
[20:51] <k1l> VFDPrim: if that is done: pastebinit main.log
[20:51] <k1l> then provide the url
[20:51] <nicomachus> locate xxxxx?
[20:51] <tedward> nicomachus, sure
[20:51] <nicomachus> that's amazing. wish I knew that when I was searching high and low for the xorg.conf
[20:51] <tedward> it is handy
[20:51] <kat> ok got a list of java stuff there in the terminal.
[20:52] <VFDPrim> k1l:http://paste.ubuntu.com/10981045/
[20:52] <tedward> hangon, let me figure out what the name of the java binary is
[20:53] <kat> got java-7-openjdk
[20:53] <lickalott> hey guys, is anyone good at shell scripting?  I'm having issues with a for loop that will ultimately rename files (using the existing filename with parameter expansion)
[20:54] <kat> and etc. etc.
[20:54] <tedward> kat what does it say when you just type java in the terminal
[20:54] <nicomachus> lickalott: this isn't really the place for it.
[20:54] <k1l> lickalott: maybe ask at ##bash
[20:55] <lickalott> k.  thanks
[20:56] <nicomachus> FYI, #bash. but it's forwards so whatever.
[20:56] <nicomachus> s/it's/it/
[20:56] <kat> tedward, it says "Usage: java options etc.
[20:56] <DarkAceZ> I guess there isn't a way to restart X without it restarting all my X programs, is there? can I have them all show back up without restarting/closing them?
[20:57] <EriC^^> DarkAceZ: you can reset unity and/or compiz
[20:57] <tedward> hmmm well it appears to be installed, what code were you typing to run minecraft?
[20:57] <VFDPrim> k1l: did you see i posted another link
[20:57] <DarkAceZ> EriC^^: xsession-errors is 200+ GB, and I want to remove it without having to restart
[20:58] <kat> I downloaded it from a site for windows, mac, and linux, and did the linux download like I do all the time for my other computers or a clean install.
[20:58] <EriC^^> DarkAceZ: i think you can remove it with no ill effects, not sure
[20:58] <kat> BUT, for some reason, it didn't make a file like usual. It just went to "desktop" where I sent it.
[20:58] <DarkAceZ> EriC^^: well that's the problem. I think I already half-did. I (regrettably) used nautilus' Delete option to do so
[20:59] <DarkAceZ> EriC^^: now I can't find the file, but it's still somewhere on the drive
[20:59] <EriC^^> DarkAceZ: it should be in your trash
[20:59] <DarkAceZ> Delete, not to be confused with Move to Trash
[20:59] <kat> I don't have a minecraft folder.
[20:59] <nicomachus> DarkAceZ: I just learned this handy command called 'locate ....'
[20:59] <EriC^^> DarkAceZ: deleting in nautilus should move it there
[20:59] <DarkAceZ> I already did 'find / | grep xsession'
[20:59] <nicomachus> so if you know the file name, then you can try 'locate [filename]'
[21:00] <DarkAceZ> EriC^^: it's not there
[21:00] <tedward> kat I haven't intalled minecraft myself, but this link looks like it should help http://www.howtogeek.com/198476/how-to-install-minecraft-on-ubuntu-or-any-other-linux-distribution/
[21:00] <DarkAceZ> disk usage analyzer can not find it, either
[21:00] <DarkAceZ> and I checked /proc
 VFDPrim: if that is done: pastebinit main.log <k1l> then provide the url
[21:00] <kat> thank you
[21:00] <EriC^^> DarkAceZ: try ls -la ~/.local/share/Trash/files
[21:01] <DarkAceZ> EriC^^: doesn't show up
[21:01] <DarkAceZ> besides, disk usage analyzer should have found it in there if it was there
[21:01] <EriC^^> DarkAceZ: try sudo find / -size +100G
[21:01] <EriC^^> DarkAceZ: why do you say it's still on the disk?
[21:02] <DarkAceZ> there was no freed up space
[21:02] <VFDPrim> k1l that last link is all that it did
[21:02] <EriC^^> DarkAceZ: try df -h
[21:02] <VFDPrim> k1l:there is nothing else
[21:03] <DarkAceZ> EriC^^: /dev/sda1       458G  435G     0 100% /
[21:03] <VFDPrim> k1l unless im missing something witch i would not be serprised about
[21:03] <DarkAceZ> Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[21:03] <EriC^^> DarkAceZ: do you have a separate /home ?
[21:04] <DarkAceZ> I have a symbolic link to my secondary drive (old OS), but it's not a user, it's just there so I can easily access my old files
[21:04] <k1l> VFDPrim: pastebinit alogfile.log will provide a new url in the terminal. show me that url. not the url with the copied text like you did
[21:04] <DarkAceZ> other than that, /home only has this user
[21:04] <DarkAceZ> s/user/folder
[21:05] <EriC^^> DarkAceZ: something else must be taking up the space, i think
[21:05] <DarkAceZ> Disk Usage Analyzer says home does not include the file
[21:05] <EriC^^> DarkAceZ: ok, if sudo find -size +100G doesn't find it, then it's probably gone if you're sure it's 200G
[21:05] <DarkAceZ> I think it's just hidden in some system folder and was not deleted because some process (xorg) was still using it
[21:06] <DarkAceZ> well, I actually changed your command from 100GB to 200GB, the only file it found was kcore
[21:06] <VFDPrim> K1l: from where the last thing was on what i showed you i pasted "pastebinit alogfile.log" here is its responce Unable to read from: alogfile.log i do beleive im doing something wrong
[21:07] <DarkAceZ> so, now I'm trying 100GB
[21:07] <k1l> VFDPrim: alogfile.log was just an example.
[21:08] <k1l> VFDPrim: you can open gedit and open that path and copy and paste that to a pastebin. do it the way you can handle.
[21:08] <VFDPrim> yea im dumb and need exact instructions here lol im so sorry im dumb when it comes to this stuff
[21:08] <Bashing-om> DarkAceZ: Might run ' cd / ; sudo du -sx * | sort -n ' to look at disk useage/file sizes .
[21:09] <k1l> VFDPrim: dont say you are dumb as an excuse to not think about what you are doing. that is not rocket science :) take your time and get the log pasted. so we can take a look
[21:09] <VFDPrim> k1l. thats the thing im not sure what im soposed to be doing or where from step by step from begining might be best
[21:09] <VFDPrim> my comprahention is not good sorry
[21:10] <VFDPrim> im not compleatly sure what it is that you even need
[21:10] <k1l> VFDPrim: i provided clear step by step. but you even struggle at that. so i dont know what i can do to make it more easy?!
[21:11] <k1l> VFDPrim: the "main.log" file form that path we talked about the whole time. to get to know what package from a PPA is blocking your upgrade
[21:11] <VFDPrim> no not your fault at all dont get me wrong i just get confused when it comes to this type of stuff
[21:11] <jerm^> I am trying to build the latest package for Qemu (2.3) located in debian-unstable. I used "gbp clone git://git.debian.org/pkg-qemu/qemu.git" to fetch the source, but cannot get any combination of git-buildpackage to create the package.
[21:13] <TMess_> I need to bruteforce a list of passwords against a user in a wifi network protected by PEAP-MSCHAPV2 WPA2-Enterprise
[21:13] <VFDPrim> k1l: starting over in neew terminal again any chance a side convo would work for you less clutter inbetween chats that way
[21:13] <TMess_> how can i?
[21:13] <jerm^> I am getting errors related to not being able to find the tag for the upstream to create the pristine tar. ("upstream/2.3+dfsg is not a valid treeish") I do not see any tags named accordingly in git.
[21:13] <bekks> TMess_: Wrong network.
[21:13] <TMess_> which one then?
[21:13] <DarkAceZ> TMess_: EFnet lulz
[21:14] <TMess_> sorry and thanks
[21:14] <DarkAceZ> be careful, though, TMess_, that network is full of script kiddies
[21:15] <DarkAceZ> they might not just tell you
[21:15] <VFDPrim> k1l im back to where i put in the ls and all those numbers came up
[21:15] <DarkAceZ> (and DDoS you instead)
[21:16] <k1l> VFDPrim: what gives you "pwd"ß
[21:16] <k1l> ?
[21:16] <VFDPrim> pwd?
[21:17] <k1l> thing is place in " " are terminal commands
[21:17] <k1l> *things i
[21:18] <VFDPrim> yea i usualy leav them out unless it accedentaly get coppied in with the text
[21:19] <VFDPrim> k1l: after i put in the "cd 20150503" what was soposed to be next all it does then is add a "$" to the end
[21:19] <k1l> VFDPrim: you are making this the hardest job ever
[21:20] <k1l> VFDPrim: if you would tell me what "pwd" gives you i would know in that directory you are.
[21:20] <VFDPrim> k1l: i am sorry not meaning to but i needed to start over so I would not be so confused
[21:20] <irisk> k1l: cd /
[21:20] <k1l> VFDPrim: i feel like telling a blind man where to go but that blind man doesnt do what i tell him.
[21:20] <VFDPrim> so just typw pwd in?
[21:20] <k1l> VFDPrim: "pwd" is the command. it meand print working directory.
[21:21] <VFDPrim> k1l:/var/log/dist-upgrade/20150503-1525
[21:21] <k1l> VFDPrim: finally. now do "pastebinit main.log"
[21:21] <cihhan> hi all! i was trying to build an internal mail server for a small workgroup (without using a dns) -- after following tutorials, i have sort of setup the system. when i enter the credentials, thunderbird is able to automatically detect the ports, etc. however it hangs during 'checking the password' process. any ideas?
[21:21] <k1l> VFDPrim: that will create a url as output. show us the url
[21:21] <VFDPrim> k1l: after "epic@Dept1:/var/log/dist-upgrade/20150503-1525$ "
[21:22] <VFDPrim> ?
[21:22] <k1l> VFDPrim: yes!
[21:22] <VFDPrim> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10981191/
[21:22] <VFDPrim> K1l: never gave me a link like that before
[21:23] <k1l> VFDPrim: was it that hard? we could have been there like 20minutes before
[21:23] <VFDPrim> K1l: no it was not how ever it never gave me a link before thats why I started over I am sorry I am difucult
[21:25] <k1l> VFDPrim: "sudo apt update &&sudo apt full-upgrade"
[21:25] <k1l> put all that in a pastebin again, please
[21:26] <VFDPrim> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10981216/
[21:29] <VFDPrim> k1l: unless this is what you needed http://paste.ubuntu.com/10981224/
[21:36] <hplc> how do i get a progressmeter while using dd?
[21:36] <ikonia> hplc: you don't
[21:36] <Ben64> dd if=/dev/zero | pv | dd of=/dev/null
[21:37] <ikonia> dd does not have a progress meter
[21:37] <Ben64> try my command :)
[21:37] <hplc> possible to script something? python? ruby?
[21:37] <ikonia> pv - command not found
[21:37] <hplc> Ben64, will do :)
[21:38] <Apteryx> Hello!
[21:38] <ikonia> that won't show you an end game
[21:38] <ikonia> that will just show you that it's doing something
[21:38] <ikonia> interesting idea though
[21:39] <hplc> guess i could try i C, but im too much of a beginner in it
[21:39] <hplc> in*
[21:39] <Apteryx> Hello! I've been trying to connect to my ubuntu 14.04 PC using VNC, at the lightdm login window. For this I've edited the /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and enabled the VNCServer option.
[21:40] <Ben64> my command shows total transferred, time its been running, and the current speed, not sure what else you'd want
[21:40] <Bashing-om> hplc: The man has directions on how to get a status ' man dd ' .
[21:40] <compdoc> Apteryx, any luck?
[21:40] <k1l> VFDPrim: "pastebinit apt.log"
[21:40] <ikonia> Ben64: can it work out overall progress, eg: can it work out that 10GB is expected as part of the input, so if it's done 5G thats %50
[21:41] <Apteryx> Testing locally, I've been able to connect and see the lightdm login window. But when I put a user's credentials in, it will not completely go into the session, all I see is the background. No panel, no Unity launcher.
[21:41] <ikonia> I can't see how it can do that in the man page, but that doesn't man it's not possible
[21:41] <VFDPrim> k1l:http://paste.ubuntu.com/10981287/
[21:41] <Ben64> ikonia: not using dd as an input, but yes
[21:41] <ikonia> Ben64: yes, so dd is the limiter here, rather than pv
[21:42] <irisk> hello, given a ppa address like ppa:noobslab/themes is it possible to get a html link. Because If i want to "ADD SOURCES" in the Software Center it asks for a complete link.
[21:42] <Ben64> yep, you can do "pv <input> | dd of=/dev/null" and it will show total progress and eta
[21:42] <k1l> VFDPrim: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-all"
[21:43] <k1l> irisk: use add-apt-repository for that
[21:43] <Apteryx> compdoc: Could it be related to me using tightvncserver as a vnc server? I was not sure if I need a "virtual" or not vnc server for the lightdm use case.
[21:43] <k1l> !ppa | irisk
[21:43] <VFDPrim> k1l: already newest version
[21:43] <irisk> k1l: slow internet last time i did it via terminal my config files were corruppted
[21:44] <pgulley> Hey! I was around earlier- no one seemed to know what to do
[21:44] <irisk> yes thank you ubottu i know what PPAs are -_-
[21:44] <irisk> k1l ?
[21:44] <Ben64> irisk: add-apt-repository is the proper way to add a ppa
[21:44] <pgulley> I'm on chrubuntu- ubuntu for chromebook- trying to get nvidia-cuda-toolkit
[21:44] <irisk> and then apt-get-update ?
[21:44] <Ben64> irisk: yep
[21:45] <irisk> takes ages because it goes through all of the packages
[21:45] <Ben64> pgulley: you should seek support from chrubuntu, its not an official flavor here
[21:45] <pgulley> Am getting a "no installation candidate", despite the package being listed online
[21:45] <Ben64> irisk: yep thats how apt works
[21:45] <irisk> ok cool thanks
[21:45] <pragmaticenigma> pgulley, , you might need to do an update
[21:45] <k1l> VFDPrim: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-all
[21:45] <compdoc> Apteryx, I have never been able to get as far as you with Unity. I install a minimal Mate desktop on Ubuntu Server, because it supports 2D, which works with vncserver. Anyway, what youdecribe might be a problem with .vnc/startup
[21:45] <compdoc> *describe
[21:45] <pragmaticenigma> pgulley, also make sure you have the repository where the package is located, enabled
[21:46] <VFDPrim> k1l:http://paste.ubuntu.com/10981318/
[21:46] <pgulley> pragmaticenigma, have run apt-get update many times, and have multiverse enabled. I've noticed, however, that the package is listed as "devel"
[21:47] <pgulley> I'll see if chrubuntu has a channel somewhere
[21:48] <k1l> VFDPrim: "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d | pastebinit"
[21:49] <VFDPrim> k1l:http://paste.ubuntu.com/10981326/
[21:50] <k1l> VFDPrim: ah there we go
[21:50] <irisk> k1l: how does apt know where to look given just ppa:/some/thing ? #justcurious
[21:50] <VFDPrim> k1l: what you find or better tell me how to fix it hahah explain later lol
[21:50] <k1l> irisk: it looks a launchpad.net and creates a ppa entry in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[21:51] <k1l> VFDPrim: i found the fualty ppa that is blocking the update
[21:51] <k1l> VFDPrim: sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[21:51] <irisk> k1l: so launchpad.net has a list of all ppa s ? :o
[21:51] <newbie|3> I have a co worker who likes a particular tv show.  I want to set up a list of the episodes in Griffith.  Anyone wanna help me?
[21:51] <k1l> irisk: yes
[21:52] <irisk> k1l: is there a link to it ? :3
[21:52] <VFDPrim> k1l: purging all now
[21:52] <k1l> VFDPrim: after that was successful (or its even installed) do "sudo ppa-purge ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers"
[21:52] <VFDPrim> want me to postbinit
[21:52] <Ben64> irisk: why don't you just use add-apt-repository
[21:52] <irisk> i am
[21:52] <irisk> i'm just a bit curious
[21:52] <irisk> thats all
[21:52] <Ben64> irisk: curious about what exactly
[21:53] <k1l> irisk: maybe there is a list of all ppas. but i dont have that link
[21:53] <ging> has anyone installed NRPE on ubuntu 14.04 recently? i can't figure out how to to it without it trying to install a full nagios server due to dependancies
[21:53] <irisk> Ben64: how apt knows where to look when installing ppas
[21:53] <k1l> VFDPrim: just get rid of the one i mentioned with the ppa-purge command
[21:54] <Ben64> irisk: add-apt-repository is a python script, look at it if you'd like
[21:54] <VFDPrim> k1l: working on it now
[21:54] <irisk> Ben64: in directory?
[21:54] <carrera> Greetings!  :-)
[21:54] <Ben64> irisk: probably /usr/bin
[21:54] <EriC^^> irisk: less `which add-apt-repository`
[21:54] <VFDPrim> k1l: its done now what ? :)
[21:55] <VFDPrim> PPA purged successfully using aptitude fallback
[21:55] <k1l> VFDPrim: "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[21:55] <VFDPrim> in new terminal or still after all the epic@Dept1:/var/log/dist-upgrade/20150503-1525$   or does that part not matter
[21:56] <k1l> that doesnt matter
[21:57] <k1l> VFDPrim: when that is done without error: try to upgrade again
[21:58] <carrera> I was in the middle of installing LibreOffice from  with Synaptic when transfer stopped.  I stopped Synaptic after a while but I wasn't able to continue the installation when I restarted Synaptic.  Every time I click on the LibreOffice box, I get a red box with an exclamation in it.  I ran "dpkg --configure -a" to no avail. Can someone please help me solve this issue?
[21:58] <VFDPrim> k1l; sudo apt-get upgrade  should be all is needed now right
[21:58] <joshumax> You know, I've always been curious about something, if you manually start an X session and launch, say, xterm on that session, then switch to another TTY and decide to come back to the tty running the X session, how do you do so without breaking X's framebuffer?
[21:58] <k1l> VFDPrim: no, i mean "sudo do-release-upgrade" since you wanted to go to 15.04
[21:59] <joshumax> Wayland/Mir seems to handle this quite nicely...
[21:59] <VFDPrim> k1l: doing it now
[21:59] <Smashcat> Hi, I have a server on Ubuntu 12.10, since I rebooted it the other week it can no longer see external USB drives, so I assume it's loaded in an updated Kernel with broken USB driver. dmesg is full of [2508901.465306] sd 6:0:0:0: >sense urb submission failure messages. The drive is fine (in fact tested 2 drives). Current kernel is 3.5.0-17-generic. Anyone know what kernel 12.10 shipped with,...
[21:59] <Smashcat> ...so I can revert?
[21:59] <Smashcat> (before I rebooted, it had been running continuously for about 1.5 years)
[22:00] <VFDPrim> k1l: thanks you seo verry much I do beleive it is going to work for me now! sorry I was so complicated there
[22:01] <OerHeks> Smashcat, you could check yourself, hold shift @boot to see older kernels in the menu, et voila
[22:01] <OerHeks> Smashcat, 12.10 is EOL.
[22:01] <Smashcat> OerHeks: Ah ok thanks, I'll do that
[22:01] <Apteryx> compdoc: seems I'm not alone: http://confoundedtech.blogspot.ca/2012/12/fix-tightvncserver-not-showing-unity.html
[22:02] <compdoc> Apteryx, think you can get it working?
[22:02] <Apteryx> compdoc: and the fix seems to point to xstartup, which might relate to .vnc/startup you were talking about.
[22:03] <compdoc> yeah   .vnc/xstartup
[22:03] <Ben64> hm, nvidia module still not working properly on 14.04
[22:03] <Bashing-om> joshumax: By default X runs in VT 7 . So if in another TTY then key-combo crl+alt+F7 should return to X .
[22:04] <joshumax> Bashing-om: Sure...but say I wanted to start a second X session on another TTY
[22:04] <joshumax> If I switch back to that session it's going to break the session
[22:05] <Bashing-om> joshumax: Lemme hunt it up .. there is a way to export .
[22:06] <[Saint]> Is anyone else seeing issues with 14.10 and Chrome presently?
[22:07] <VFDPrim> k1l: thanks again for the help
[22:07] <nicolesque> what issues?
[22:07] <VFDPrim> and Patience
[22:07] <[Saint]> nicolesque: refusal to start coupled with a kernel oops.
[22:08] <VFDPrim> saint: i am err was currintly updating now
[22:08] <nicolesque> I'm officially on 15.04 but I didn't see that on 14.10, no. stable or beta chrome?
[22:08] <irisk> Ben64: there seems to be a "sources" list
[22:08] <[Saint]> neither.
[22:08] <[Saint]> *dev
[22:08] <VFDPrim> I never had a n issue to use chrome
[22:09] <Ben64> irisk: it would help if you explained what you're trying to accomplish
[22:09] <[Saint]> It only just started after 3.16.0-36
[22:09] <[Saint]> so, you likely wouldn;t have seen it, no.
[22:09] <irisk> Ben64: nothing, leave it
[22:10] <[Saint]> Well, that's a fine how-do-you-do.
[22:14] <Bashing-om> joshumax: What DE do  you use ? For me on xfce this works ' ctl+alt+f2 ; startx -- :1 ; ctl+alt+f8 ' to give me X running in TTY8 . obviously do not use "startx" unless your init file is set up so .
[22:15] <joshumax> I use xfce as well
[22:16] <joshumax> ctl+alt+f1; startx -- :1; ctl+alt+f7; ctl+alt+f1 breaks X on tty1
[22:16] <Smashcat> Ah found the problem - seems like the kernel in 12.10 has a bug if a USB3 drive is attached at boot. Rebooting and then attaching the drive fixed the problem :)
[22:18] <Bashing-om> joshumax: Sorry, that is the end of my knowledge .
[22:18] <joshumax> Eh, that's okay, it's happened on every device I've ever owned
[22:18] <joshumax> !man startx
[22:18] <joshumax> I did that wrong didn't I
[22:21] <joshumax> I'll just ask on askubuntu; the manpages weren't helpful
[22:22] <Bashing-om> joshumax: After I reboot tonight, I will play with starting another X instance . If ya around tomorrow will let ya know what results on my system . I have tested before, but I do not recall if I also had things going on in TTY7 at that time .
[22:23] <joshumax> Bashing-om: Cool! Thanks!
[22:32] <zeeb> guys
[22:32] <zeeb> Thunar crashes when I use tree view on 1.6.3. why is this?
[22:32] <zeeb> crashes my entire system, locks up and cant save without reboot
[22:32] <EriC^^> zeeb: try running it in a terminal, it might say something
[22:33] <zeeb> just like 'sudo thunar' ?
[22:33] <EriC^^> just thunar
[22:33] <hplc> anyone know howto make a mac os install disc on a usb stick in ubuntu?
[22:34] <zeeb> when i run thunar in terminal it doesnt output any logs or anything about it
[22:35] <EriC^^> it might say something before it crashes
[22:35] <zeeb> ok
[22:35] <EriC^^> ah nevermind
[22:35] <zeeb> but it also just creates a new line for example i go 'thunar' then it runs and brings me back to a $
[22:35] <EriC^^> yeah
[22:35] <zeeb> yeah i can use side pane > shortcuts flawlessly
[22:36] <zeeb> but the second i switch to tree and go to a directory it freezes or i get a black screen
[22:36] <zeeb> :S
[22:36] <zeeb> this is xubuntu 14.04.02. should i upgrade thunar to latest version 1.6.7?
[22:37] <EriC^^> looks like a bug http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/Thunar-crashes-when-changing-view-r20382-td37320.html
[22:38] <zeeb> thanks eric
[22:38] <zeeb> but that link is from 2006 (!)
[22:38] <zeeb> would be amazed if it was still relevant
[22:39] <zeeb> but it does seem like the same issue..
[22:40] <EriC^^> hmm
[22:41] <zeeb> i would like to try updating but i dont know how to update thunar and if its safe
[22:41] <EriC^^> latest is 1.6.6
[22:42] <EriC^^> in vivid's repository, you could try to download the .deb and see if you have all the dependencies already met
[22:46] <adriano_> oi
[22:46] <adriano_> hi
[22:46] <adriano_>  how are you ?
[22:48] <adriano_> how are you ?
[22:48] <DoctorOW> Hi
[22:49] <adriano_> iam  adriano donizete colombo
[22:49] <adriano_> my facebook  is  www.facebook.com/colomboadc
[22:50] <hplc> anyone know howto make a mac os install disc on a usb stick in ubuntu?
[22:51] <adriano_> i  from brazil
[22:52] <k1l> adriano_: we have #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting. this channel here is for ubuntu support only
[22:58] <joshumax> Sorry for pasting my question from AskUbuntu, but can anyone tell me is unclear in my question? http://askubuntu.com/questions/617885/switching-to-another-tty-after-running-startx-and-returning-breaks-xorg
[22:59] <joshumax> I hope this isn't against #ubuntu IRC guidelines
[23:00] <adriano_> oi alguém fala minha  lingua ?
[23:00] <bekks> !br | adriano_
[23:01] <k1l> joshumax: maybe you can ask the xserver guys since that is quite a special question
[23:02] <joshumax> k1l: I assumed that a lot of people would be asking this question...
[23:02] <joshumax> But I can't seem to find a single one
[23:02] <k1l> joshumax: first: we dont use startx on ubuntu. we let lightdm (or another dm) handle the xserver
[23:03] <Ben64> joshumax: normally you shouldn't be using startx
[23:03] <joshumax> A lot of times I want to debug an application I'm working on that uses XLib, and startx is really helpful for that though...
[23:04] <adriano_> obrigado pela dica !
[23:04] <adriano_> bekks
[23:04] <k1l> second: most users are happy when their one xserver doesnt have issues. so they dont want another one with potential issues :)
[23:04] <joshumax> Other times It's nice to be able to run something like midori on another TTY to google any problems I have with starting my display manager...
[23:33] <guest32694> Hi i am not very skilled with ubuntu/linux(but i am learning). Over the weekend i tried to install apt-cacher-ng. without success. When i issue the apt-get install apt-cacher-ng. Do i need to install the apache2 as well? or can i set up apt-cacher-ng without installing apache2?
[23:35] <ubuntu-mate> guys im in the ubutnu mate installer and i chose the option "install alongside windows 7" but i can only make the ubuntu partition 18gb and no more even though my windows 7 partition has 180gb ?
[23:35] <ubuntu-mate> it only allows me to drag it up to 18gb and i want it to be larger
[23:36] <anth0ny_> I”m setting up a process to run as a non-priviledged user. I want that process to log to /var/log, but that is owned by ‘root’. What’s the right way to do this?
[23:39] <guest32694> If there's anyone skilled in installing and setting up apt-cacher-ng and/or apt-mirror, would you mind helping me set up mine?
[23:51] <namaste> guest32694, did you look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Apt-Cacher-Server ?
[23:53] <SrPx> Cmd+a (which I changed to ctrl) isn't working to select all text on ubuntu on firefox on macbook pro retina. Other cmd commands work. Why?