[15:18] <balloons> elfy, I swapped the laptop over to xubuntu this past weekend :-)
[15:21] <balloons> i didn't install the whole thing though, just a few select packages to keep it minimal. I ended up going with a single bar at the top. It's zippy and pleasant. I think it'll stick around for a bit
[15:21] <balloons> been 2 years? maybe more since I've run it as a DE
[15:37] <elfy> balloons: nice one :)
[15:38] <elfy> it's certainly different than it was a couple of years ago
[15:55] <balloons> yes it is. I like the changes.. last time I ran xubuntu I remember liking the bottom bar, but don't now
[15:55] <balloons> also, it's interesting you can move the bar to the side. I don't remember that from last time/
[15:56] <elfy> pretty sure you could move to the side, having it in deskbar at side is new(ish)
[15:57] <elfy> I find it hard to remember to be honest - pretty soon I'll have forgotten 15.04 too ;)
[18:26] <balloons> elopio_, are you ready to present tomorrow ? http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22453/autopilot-helpers/
[18:27] <balloons> veebers isn't about yet to ask :-)
[19:10] <pvsenan> balloons, hi
[19:12] <balloons> pvsenan, hello!
[19:12] <balloons> Letozaf_, howdy to you as well
[19:12] <Letozaf_> balloons, howdy :)
[19:13] <pvsenan> balloons, How are you ?. I just moved to Sweden :)
[19:16] <balloons> Sweden? wow, quite a move!
[19:22] <pvsenan> balloons, my employer want me here so I moved. By the way is there anything left in automation so that I can write some code :)
[19:22] <alesage_> wxl ping
[19:22] <balloons> pvsenan, there's plenty of automation fun to be had
[19:22] <balloons> just ask Letozaf_ :-)
[19:22] <balloons> pvsenan, did you ever learn about writing qmltests?
[19:23] <pvsenan> balloons, no not yet. Is it in python ?
[19:24] <balloons> pvsenan, check out https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/quality/. There's some more goodies in there since you last saw the site I'm sure
[19:25] <pvsenan> balloons, Thanks, I'll come back after reading
[19:25] <balloons> pvsenan, lower level tests for the qml apps are written in qml as well
[19:25] <Letozaf_> balloons, pvsenan yeah lots of fun :-P
[19:25] <balloons> they are easier to write than AP tests, but plenty of autopilot tests to write as well.
[19:26] <balloons> pvsenan, if you want to hop in again on the autopilot side of things, anything in this list works: http://people.canonical.com/~nskaggs/core-apps-test-sponsoring.html
[19:27] <balloons> priority wise, I would say the terminal, calculator and doc viewer teams all would love to have someone help them out
[19:27] <balloons> I'm happy to introduce you :-)
[19:28] <pvsenan> balloons, Great.. a lot of stuff and a lot of fun
[19:29] <balloons> pvsenan, I don't think you ever worked on a core app did you?
[19:29] <balloons> perhaps I'm getting ahead of things.. do you know what they are? :-)
[19:30] <pvsenan> balloons, no. I wrote test for disk usage analyzer and after that I didnt do anything
[19:36] <balloons> pvsenan, so the community core apps are a group of default applications for ubuntu touch. They are written entirely by the community of volunteers like yourself
[19:36] <balloons> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps
[19:36] <balloons> they each have a development team who works on them. from the quality side, we like to help out by writing and fixing there testcases.
[19:39] <pvsenan> balloons, sounds interesting. I think I setup calendar app long time ago
[19:42] <balloons> pvsenan, indeed. Why don't you try checking out one of the apps right now and we'll make sure you can run the tests, give you a quick tour / overview
[19:43] <pvsenan> balloons, https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/ for installation ?
[19:44] <balloons> pvsenan, like for instance calendar since you mentioned it
[19:44] <balloons> bzr branch lp:ubuntu-calendar-app
[19:45] <balloons> cd tests/autopilot
[19:45] <balloons> autopilot3 list calendar_app
[19:51] <pvsenan> balloons, I have some problem while running  List http://paste.ubuntu.com/10986353/
[19:52] <balloons> pvsenan, gotcha. So you need the meta package "ubuntu-sdk". Are you on vivid or ?
[19:53] <pvsenan> balloons, 15.04
[19:54] <balloons> pvsenan, excellent. Just install that package and you should be all set
[19:55] <pvsenan> balloons, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sdk ? its 852 MB ?
[19:55] <balloons> pvsenan, yes.. and yea, it's going to pull in lots of stuff
[19:56] <balloons> you don't technically need all of it just for calendar, but it's helpful to just get everything
[19:56] <pvsenan> balloons, just started..  will be back once it is complete
[19:56] <balloons> Letozaf_, what are you up to these days? calendar changes all work out ok?
[19:58] <Letozaf_> balloons, I am working on Docviewer app: https://code.launchpad.net/~carla-sella/ubuntu-docviewer-app/test-toc/+merge/258082
[19:58] <Letozaf_> balloons, calendar app is waiting for a reply: https://code.launchpad.net/~carla-sella/ubuntu-calendar-app/fix-dayview-default-view
[19:59] <elopio_> balloons: making the final preparations...
[19:59] <elopio_> I'll be ready
[20:03] <balloons> elopio_, awesome!
[20:04] <balloons> Letozaf_, thanks
[20:04] <Letozaf_> balloons, yw
[20:13] <pvsenan> balloons, I am still facing issues http://paste.ubuntu.com/10986464/
[20:35] <balloons> pvsenan, let me see
[20:35] <balloons> pvsenan, ahh right
[20:36] <balloons> pvsenan, you also need address-book-service-testability
[20:36] <balloons> and python3-dateutil if you don't have it
[20:37] <balloons> I'm taking this from the depends listed in the debian/control file and click/manifest.json.in  in the project
[20:45] <pvsenan> balloons, ran 33 tests and 10 failed
[20:46] <balloons> pvsenan, awesome, so it ran at least :-)
[20:47] <balloons> Now, to prevent you from losing keyboard and mouse in the future, you can use a tool called autopilot3 sandbox to run tests. autopilot3-sandbox-run -X calendar_app
[20:47] <balloons> this will spawn a nested xserver window and run tests inside
[20:48] <balloons> you already have it installed, it should "just work" a slong as you have Xephyr installed. sudo apt-get install xserver-xephyr
[20:48] <pvsenan> balloons, let me check
[20:49] <pvsenan> balloons, got error xvfb and after installing that test run started
[20:49] <knome> balloons, does that mean we will have some test reports from you?
[20:51] <balloons> pvsenan, great. now you will find qml is much easier to write tests for. If you look at calendar app tests, you'll see 2 __init__.py files. One contains helper methods we've written, the other contains the testcase class and setup/launch stuff
[20:51] <balloons> the tests themselves are in tests/autopilot/calendar_app/tests/ inside individual py files. Best to look at those first and reference the other files
[20:52] <balloons> take a look at test_add_new_event_with_default_values, in test_new_event.py. It's easy to read, and things are abstracted away nicely for re-use
[20:52] <balloons> knome, for xubuntu you mean?
[20:55] <knome> balloons, yes of course
[20:57] <balloons> knome, :-) It's technically the wife's laptop now so I'm not sure she'll want to run devel or not (I sometimes make her). But I will be using it, and certainly would report issues if I find them
[20:57] <balloons> nothing odd yet.. expect so different interaction than expected with indicators
[20:57] <balloons> xfce has some built-in stuff, then there's re-using unity indicators
[20:58] <balloons> it was confusing since I didn't take the xubuntu-desktop meta-package, which I'm sure has a sane default layout
[21:01] <knome> balloons, yep..
[21:02] <balloons> otherwise smooth sailing