[13:00] <ScottK> BTW, don't accept the other k* ones.  There's more needed before those are ready.
[14:01] <bdmurray> slangasek: Could you have a look at this old MP? https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/ubuntu-archive-tools/edit-acl-crash/+merge/235471
[14:35] <slangasek> bdmurray: looking.  btw what do you think about my follow-up on the other MP?
[14:36] <bdmurray> slangasek: Going to look at that again today
[14:36] <slangasek> ok
[15:04] <infinity> Riddell: Around?
[15:04] <infinity> ScottK: Or you?
[15:05] <ScottK> Sure
[15:05] <infinity> ScottK: kubunt-active and kubuntu-plasma5.  Are those seeds dead now, can I not branch them for wily, or are one or both still needed?
[15:05] <ScottK> Both dead.
[15:06] <infinity> Ta.
[15:06] <cjwatson> oh good.
[15:07] <tumbleweed> I'm assuming last week of october for release (distro-info-data)
[15:13] <ScottK> Reasonable.
[15:13] <ScottK> tumbleweed: Can you go ahead and put a release called simply X in after that?
[15:15] <infinity> ScottK: I have pending patches to fix distro-info's braindeadery.  Just need to clean them up a bit.
[15:15] <tumbleweed> ScottK: that would remove the "out of date" warnings. Of course that's probably what you're trying to achieve, but they are ther efor a reason :P
[15:16] <infinity> tumbleweed: I'll get you patches "soon" to actually do sane things.
[15:16] <tumbleweed> :P
[15:17] <infinity> tumbleweed: As for release, I haven't written the schedule yet, but Oct 29 will do as a preliminary guess until I give you a better date.
[15:17] <infinity> (Oct 22 seems more likely)
[15:18] <tumbleweed> yeah, 4th week seems more common
[15:18] <ScottK> Make it the 29th though as better to be a week late than a week early.
[15:18] <infinity> tumbleweed: It's also almost exactly a year after utopic release.
[15:19] <infinity> Anyhow, after I'm done with some opening faff, I'll go hunting conference schedules and such and set a proper date.
[15:20] <infinity> I'd also like to know why vim builds in sid but not in vivid. :/
[15:20] <infinity> Grumpy.
[15:20] <tumbleweed> 0.27 uploaded to sid, I'll do SRUs a bit later
[16:04] <bdmurray> slangasek: I've commented on your comment about my merge proposal regarding the phased-updater.
[17:01] <tjaalton> infinity: how about mesa-lts-vivid out of the queue today?-)
[17:02] <infinity> tjaalton: Seems likely.  I'm a bit headless chickeny with wily opening, but we'll see where I get.
[17:03] <tjaalton> ack
[17:03] <ogra_> did the werewolf get you ?
[17:05] <bdmurray> mitya57: that's interesting because in my trusty w/o proposed chroot the notify-osd autopkgtest fails
[17:35] <bdmurray> mitya57: I released the Trusty SRU but the Utopic part was never verified.
[17:41] <xnox> infinity: can a 'll' be an alias for 'l' codename?
[17:44] <infinity> xnox: -EPARSE
[17:45] <xnox> infinity: the new code name is "wily", i think "willy" should also be an accepted upload suite....
[17:46] <ogra_> like frank you mean ?
[17:47] <infinity> xnox: Pretty sure those words mean very different things. :P
[17:49] <xnox> infinity: .... a wily willy ?! =) it's so wrong.
[17:50] <xnox> infinity: is 15.10 a valid upload target?
[17:50] <infinity> xnox: Nope.
[17:50] <xnox> =(
[17:50] <ogra_> devel is
[17:50] <xnox> devel?
[17:50]  * xnox will use devel from now on....
[17:50] <infinity> devel won't work very well until it's open.
[17:50] <infinity> And once it's open, the name works too.
[17:50] <infinity> So...
[17:50] <infinity> Meh.
[18:18] <mitya57> bdmurray: the fixes for Trusty and Utopic were identical, but I will now comment on the bug asking to test on Utopic
[20:54] <wxl> infinity: ok, time to turn dailies on now that we're officially wily? :)
[20:54] <infinity> wxl: No, but in the next couple of days.
[20:54] <wxl> infinity: great thx :)
[21:12] <bdmurray> infinity: Does bug 1363519 need any more information?
[21:14] <infinity> bdmurray: No, it's a live-build bug, I just didn't know that when it was first reported.
[21:15] <infinity> bdmurray: We'll get it fixed up for wily and trusty.
[22:03] <cjwatson> wxl: please, we have a checklist, there's no need to poke us about something that's 50-odd items deep in it.
[22:04] <wxl> cjwatson: i've never seen such a checklist before and at least last release i saw dailies turned on sooner, so just checking.
[22:04] <cjwatson> last release we had a name sooner!
[22:05] <cjwatson> that blocks everything.
[22:05] <wxl> as i said, never seen said checklist, so i act out of ignorance
[22:05] <cjwatson> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewReleaseCycleProcess
[22:05] <cjwatson> now you have.
[22:06] <wxl> danke
[23:36] <bdmurray> infinity: I notice wily is frozen, in what other cases would a release be frozen? I ask as sru-report is broken trying to get wily data.
[23:37] <infinity> bdmurray: ... how could it possibly break in that case?  vivid was frozen for a month before it released.
[23:37] <infinity> bdmurray: It's much more likely to break because wily has no files on the mirrors yet.
[23:37] <infinity> (Which is in progress, it's a slow publisher run)
[23:39] <infinity> bdmurray: Anyhow, I think it's a mistake for sru-report to even be looking at frozen series', since a stable series will never be in that state.
[23:39] <infinity> bdmurray: Unless someone derives value from looking at the stable series on sru-report during release week, but I never have, since we have update_excuses for that.
[23:40] <bdmurray> infinity: Okay, right now it only ignores "Active Development" it was failing trying to find excuses information.
[23:41] <infinity> bdmurray: Yeah, instead of an ignore list, you probably want an inclusive list that just looks at supported and current, or whatever those two are.
[23:41] <infinity> wgrant: What are those two keys in API speak?
[23:43] <wgrant> infinity: distro_series.status in ('Current Stable Release', 'Supported')
[23:43] <infinity> bdmurray: Looks like status=Supported and status= ... What william said.
[23:45] <bdmurray> infinity: okay, I'll have an mp in a minute or two
[23:59] <bdmurray> infinity: https://code.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/ubuntu-archive-tools/series-status/+merge/258217