[06:10] <Mirv> chrisccoulson: not exactly, but maybe what you need it for can be done any way? I mean, you can certainly pass custom value types from c++ to qml and use them in signals
[06:10] <Mirv> chrisccoulson: usually the UITK people have already done it if one's wondering whether something can be done
[06:47] <dholbach> good morning
[07:19] <cylonmath2> gm
[10:26] <taiebot1> Will the meizu Mx4 will be launched at the UOS http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1466 :-D
[10:45] <marc___> hi all.
[10:46] <marc___> Anyone around to help a (very) newbie setup the ubuntu-sdk? I seem to be having some issues getting it working.
[11:06] <marc___> Back later.
[11:50] <cwayne> mzanetti, yo, is authenticator in a PPA somewhere too? it'd be pretty useful to have on desktop (at least as a backup) :)
[13:43] <bfiller> mhall119: I registerd this blueprint for the browser convergence session - not sure if I did it right so it gets linked
[13:43] <bfiller> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/convergence-1505-converged-browser
[13:45] <mhall119> bfiller: is that for http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22478/browser-for-convergence/ ?
[13:45] <bfiller> mhall119: yes
[13:46] <mhall119> bfiller: ok, I'll add it to that meeting
[13:47] <bfiller> mhall119: thanks
[15:02] <jcbjoe_> can somebody give me the command to install ubuntu-touch on a nexus 4
[15:02] <jcbjoe_> ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=devel --bootstrap < -- im assuming i put stable where devel is
[15:29] <brunch875>  jcbjoe_: --bootstrap wipes, so be careful
[15:32] <jcbjoe_> brunch875: what command should i run to install then ?
[15:33] <brunch875> the same, but without bootstrap. On the other hand you NEED to wipe for the installation to succeed
[15:33] <brunch875> sometimes
[15:33] <brunch875> so my recommendation is to try without bootstrap and if it doesn't work, retry with bootstrap
[15:34] <brunch875> make sure to backup your data first if there's something you really can't afford losing
[15:54] <jcbjoe_> brunch875: nope its a phone i boughto of swappa i will be getting it today .. i have a backup phone in case the nexus 4 dosen't work
[15:55] <sturmflut-work> I was over it with ondra and ogra_ last week and came to no working state, so I'll ask again: What is the proper way to (temporarily) change the kernel command line on the bq? I tried everything I could come up with using abootimg and fastboot, but in the end the kernel always booted the default cmdline.
[16:12] <nicomen> anyone having issues creating a kit with the ubuntu sdk for 15.04?
[16:12] <bzoltan> nicomen: could you describe the issue you have?
[16:14] <nicomen> bzoltan: after setting up the chroot it fails with some permission issues, I don't have the text in front of me anymore. Is there a way to run the same click thing from a terminal?
[16:15] <nicomen> 14.10 worked, and it seems to be what I have on my e4.5
[16:15] <bzoltan> nicomen: sudo  click chroot -a armhf -f ubuntu-sdk-15.04 create
[16:15] <nicomen> ah nice thanks ;)
[16:23] <jcbjoe_> what is the most stable for ubuntu-touch is is it 14.04 or 15.04 ?
[16:24] <bzoltan> jcbjoe_: 15.04 devel proposed channel
[16:25] <nicomen> is there an easy way to update the actual phone to 15.04? apt-get dist-upgrade, or use an image?
[16:33] <jcbjoe_> bzoltan: is devel proposed stable ?
[16:33] <ogra_> no
[16:34] <ogra_> -proposed is never stable .... it is proposed for testing
[16:34] <ogra_> (untested daily build)
[16:35] <bzoltan> jcbjoe_: Oh man, sorry .. my eyes cheated me... I have read "recent"
[16:35]  * bzoltan is legally blind
[16:37] <jcbjoe_> its ok bzoltan thanks ogra_
[16:41] <jcbjoe_> any of you use ubuntu-touch as a daily driver ?
[16:41] <jcbjoe_> sorry for the 21 questions .. im going to be using it as a dailiy driver and just want some feedback
[16:42] <ogra_> yes, and there are phones on sale with it
[16:43] <ogra_> (so you can assume the buyers do too)
[17:11] <marcinello> jcbjoe: yeah, it's my daily driver on Nexus 4. I have dual boot with Android but I rarely use it
[17:12] <studio_> hi
[17:13] <studio_> is there an "easy way" for the bq E4.5 to boot for exp. the ut rtm-version from mmcblk0 and the ut dev-version from mmcblk1?
[17:28] <studio_> no idea?
[17:36] <studio_> ok, what about xmir on mir? when will the rootless x work on mir? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Spec
[17:46] <studio_> popey, ping
[18:01] <studio_> ok, no answer is also an answer :(
[18:09] <jkb_> hi. I want to call a page from a dialog, pop it, and refocus the dialog again. is that possible?
[18:14] <pmcgowan> jkb_, maybe ask in #ubuntu-app-devel
[18:16] <Sebsebsebb> Hi
[18:16] <jkb_> pmcgowan, I have. But seems to be quiet at the moment. So, I tried here :-)
[18:17] <pmcgowan> oh
[18:19] <Sebsebsebb> How to see the crash files on phone
[18:21] <Sebsebsebb> Back
[18:30] <popey> Sebsebsebb: /var/crash
[18:30] <ogra_> or via the privacy/security settings ...
[18:30] <ogra_> (the submitted ones, online)
[18:32] <Sebsebsebb> I looked at this a bit before, but then get a loaf of files in there from what I remember, and then wasn't sure how to open one
[18:33] <Sebsebsebb> The submitted ones online got to have special access for that
[18:33] <Sebsebsebb> Which don't have
[18:35] <popey> Sebsebsebb: what are you hoping to see?
[18:36] <Sebsebsebb> Some crash error I guess, curious to see what is actually in them
[18:37] <popey> you can grab them from the /var/crash directory and unpack them
[18:37] <popey> apport-unpack file.crash foo/
[18:37] <Sebsebsebb> Yeah that's the bit I didn't understand how to do before how to unpack
[18:38] <popey> \o/ successfully made a 500M click package
[18:39] <popey> took freaking ages
[18:39] <popey> real    122m1.942s
[18:39]  * popey attempts to upload to the store
[18:39] <ogra_> wow, what is in it ? android ?
[18:39] <ogra_> AfU :)
[18:39] <popey> hah
[18:40] <popey> openstreetmap offline map
[18:40] <popey> lots of pre-rendered tiles
[18:40] <ogra_> the whole world ?
[18:40] <popey> hah, nope. one little island :S
[18:40] <ogra_> little :)
[18:40] <popey> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/50.6719/-1.2931
[18:40] <popey> fairly small, yeah
[18:41] <ogra_> wow
[18:41] <ogra_> that eats 500M ?
[18:41] <Sebsebsebb> By the way a ubuntu phone that turns into a basic ubuntu computer when put into a monitor or keyboard by October really?
[18:41] <popey> Sebsebsebb: so mark says :)
[18:41] <Tassadar> osm app on android can fit my whole country in 500mb Oo
[18:41] <popey> yeah, trying to figure out how they do that
[18:41] <popey> I suspect they render on the device?
[18:42] <Tassadar> yeah
[18:42] <popey> they don't ship the pre-rendered tiles.
[18:42] <popey> so i need to find some way to do that :)
[18:42] <Tassadar> the re-drawing when you zoom in looks like it is vectors
[18:42] <popey> yes
[18:42] <ogra_> it surely is
[18:42] <popey> i used maps.me
[18:42] <popey> which works really nicely and has an in-built downloader
[18:43] <popey> btw that's 500M compressed, the tiles are 2.9GB uncompressed :D
[18:43] <ogra_> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Vector_tiles ?
[18:44] <popey> ah yes, seen some of those, thanks. will investigate more
[18:44] <popey> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Kothic_JS looks interesting
[18:46] <ogra_> sure does
[18:46] <ogra_> ah, but for nodejs
[18:46] <Tassadar> click'd nodejs, obviously!
[18:46] <ogra_> thats easy :)
[18:46] <extraymond> Anyone know how to delete history from dash?
[18:47] <Tassadar> rm ~/.bash_history?
[18:48] <extraymond> Tassadar: no such file...
[18:48] <Tassadar> probably somewhere else in ubuntu then
[18:50] <extraymond> Will be nice if we can have that option from the drop-down menu when searching from scopes or dash though.
[18:50] <Tassadar> ooh, that dash, sorry :D
[18:50] <Tassadar> mean like bash, as in in the terminal, not the GUI)
[18:50] <Tassadar> *meant
[18:52] <extraymond> XD Do you know how to do so if it's dash?
[18:52] <Tassadar> no)
[18:52] <Tassadar> I don't really use ubuntu touch
[18:53] <extraymond> That's sad to know...
[18:53] <extraymond> Thx for trying to help anyway XD
[18:53] <Tassadar> it's not really compatible with my android wear watch, that could be the excuse)
[18:54] <popey> nodejs is fine, I have other node apps as clicks
[18:55] <ogra_> in the store ?
[18:55] <ogra_> Tassadar, time to fix that ;) ... patches accepted ;)
[18:55] <Tassadar> yeah, I know, but wear is propriatery
[18:55] <ogra_> as a whole ?!?
[18:56] <Tassadar> yes
[18:56] <ogra_> there must be APIs to talk to
[18:56] <Tassadar> only gpl parts are available
[18:56] <Tassadar> it's basically physical manifestation of google services
[18:56] <Tassadar> it uses the google apis even to communicate with the phone, gl re-implementing that :/
[18:57] <ogra_> wow
[18:57] <popey> ogra_: no, ones I'm working on
[18:57] <popey> but they work on device
[18:57] <ogra_> cool
[18:57] <popey> i have a new pebble time on order
[18:57] <popey> would be interesting to get that working with Ubuntu
[18:58] <Tassadar> not sure how open pebble really is
[18:58] <Tassadar> I know they didn't want to do windows phone support
[18:58] <Tassadar> I mean, nobody really does, but still
[18:59] <popey> I thought MS did the windows phone support then pebble backed away
[18:59] <Tassadar> or maybe that was that
[19:00] <Tassadar> dunno, not really interested in it that much
[19:17] <marc___> Hi All - Anyone around?
[19:27] <dadexix86> hi marc___
[19:40] <marc___> Hi Dadexix86
[19:41] <marc___> Got any time to help a newbie with ubuntu-sdk?
[19:43] <dadexix86> hi marc___ ehm... not really, I don't program for Ubuntu, so I didn't really set it up on my computer :)
[19:44] <marc___> No worries. I'll figure it out. Just can't seem to get the thing working. My setup is a bit kookie so it might take a while.
[20:09] <BOHverkill> https://i.imgur.com/7ke6qIw.png das erste ist Ubuntu das zweite dann arch ;)
[20:14] <BOHverkill> oh sorry false chatt :S
[21:35] <SturmFlut> popey: Ping
[21:35] <popey> SturmFlut: yo
[22:04] <SturmFlut> Might be interesting for some: http://sturmflut.github.io/ubuntu/bq/2015/05/04/hacking-the-bq-part-2-factory-mode/
[22:14] <OerHeks> SturmFlut, thank you, bookmarked.
[22:16] <cylonmath2> how to use google calendar?
[22:19] <SturmFlut> Oh wow. You can log into an adb shell in Factory Mode, start the FM Radio (which is currently not supported by Ubuntu Touch) and then look at dmesg. 187 lines of debugging output while tuning to a single channel, and the kernel loads about five firmware files :/
[22:59] <Becky01> shuttleworth said that thered be a phone out this year that could do convergence, does that mean itll converge from day one or that ionll be ready for when the softwares ready?