| cmaloney | Evening | 00:53 |
|---|---|---|
| cmaloney | We'll be starting the meeting in about 5 minutes | 00:54 |
| cmaloney | http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-us-mi/915/detail/ <- Meeting notes | 00:57 |
| jrwren | Lucid EOL announce. | 00:59 |
| jrwren | First meeting in a post Lucid world :) | 00:59 |
| cmaloney | Yep. | 00:59 |
| cmaloney | Let's get started | 00:59 |
| cmaloney | So the first item is we're also in a post-penguicon release party world | 01:02 |
| cmaloney | I'm hoping to get the photos up online soon now. | 01:04 |
| cmaloney | But suffice to say it was quite awesome to see everyone out there. | 01:04 |
| cmaloney | Not sure if there's anything else coming up event-wise so if somoene has something please post it to the mailing list | 01:05 |
| cmaloney | That's all I have for now | 01:08 |
| cmaloney | anyone have anything else? | 01:08 |
| cmaloney | Will hold the floor open until around 10pm | 01:09 |
| cmaloney | but if not hope you have a great May. :) | 01:09 |
| jrwren | tomorrow morning: http://ubuntuonair.com | 01:10 |
| cmaloney | oh, right | 01:12 |
| cmaloney | Ubuntu Online summit approacheth tomorrow | 01:12 |
| _stink_ | present! | 01:20 |
| cmaloney | mooing | 12:00 |
| rick_h_ | moooooning? | 12:01 |
| cmaloney | moo | 12:01 |
| jrwren | i'm counting down. | 12:01 |
| jrwren | 2hrs | 12:01 |
| rick_h_ | heh same here | 12:01 |
| rick_h_ | window open with countdown timer | 12:01 |
| rick_h_ | here's hoping for wraskally wabbit | 12:02 |
| cmaloney | heh | 12:02 |
| cmaloney | doubtful as warner would have a fit | 12:03 |
| jrwren | the youtube window or http://itsalmo.st/#markskeynote ? :) | 12:04 |
| jrwren | oh man, wraskally wabbitt would be hilarious | 12:04 |
| rick_h_ | http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22507/mark-shuttleworths-pre-uos-keynote-and-qa/ | 12:04 |
| cmaloney | Too bad Youtube broke my Logitech Squeezebox plugin. I wouldn't mind listening in via the Squeezebox. | 13:17 |
| cmaloney | Huh, apparently I can use it. | 13:18 |
| cmaloney | Interesting | 13:18 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: cool, I saw something squeezebox related the other day and thought of you with it. | 13:19 |
| cmaloney | Heh | 13:19 |
| cmaloney | Something along the lines of "There's still people using this?" | 13:19 |
| rick_h_ | :) | 13:19 |
| rick_h_ | damn, I wish I could remember what it was. It sounded cool | 13:20 |
| jrwren | I get angry thinking about the sad state of music players. | 13:21 |
| jrwren | spotify and pandora on a mobile device is the exact opposite of what I want :( | 13:21 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: Try being the owner of a Squeezebox. :) | 13:21 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: isn't it all unicorns and rainbows, because it works? | 13:22 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: oh, it was the new synology that lmorchard picked up and tweeted about | 13:22 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: Ah, cool | 13:22 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, they have SB Server support in there. | 13:22 |
| jrwren | will squeezeslave run on raspberrypi ? | 13:22 |
| jrwren | oh, squeezelite | 13:22 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: squeezelite will, but you'll want a new DAC | 13:22 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: right, he got that ds214play and it does squeezebox support and streaming for your media/etc | 13:22 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: nice! | 13:22 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: run it through a TV? :) | 13:23 |
| jrwren | damn shame about rpi dac | 13:23 |
| jrwren | I wonder if beagleboneblack has a better DAC | 13:23 |
| jrwren | or odroid C1 | 13:23 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: It's not insurmountable, but by the time you get everything in place it's almost as much as a used SB | 13:23 |
| cmaloney | Not sure on the BBB DAC, but it doesn't have an audio jack | 13:23 |
| cmaloney | so you'd need to run through cape or HDMI | 13:23 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: oh. I wasn't sure. | 13:24 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: its downstairs from me :) | 13:24 |
| cmaloney | heh | 13:24 |
| rick_h_ | https://www.synology.com/en-global/products/DS214play#overview | 13:24 |
| cmaloney | BBB serves different purpose than RPi | 13:24 |
| cmaloney | BBB is a microcontroller computer | 13:24 |
| jrwren | huh? | 13:24 |
| jrwren | no it isn't. | 13:24 |
| cmaloney | RPi is the rebirth of the Sinclair ZX series | 13:24 |
| jrwren | its an ARM processor just like rpi. | 13:24 |
| jrwren | only diff is community | 13:24 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: Different design goals | 13:25 |
| jrwren | right. | 13:25 |
| jrwren | no analog out on odroid c1 either ;( | 13:25 |
| jrwren | i wonder how hard it would be to use GPIO for that :) | 13:26 |
| brousch | Surely there's a USB dongle for that | 13:33 |
| cmaloney | https://volumio.org/project/ | 13:33 |
| jrwren | of course, but like cmaloney said, then the price gets to about the same as other options. | 13:34 |
| cmaloney | https://www.hifiberry.com/dac | 13:36 |
| jrwren | WAY too much $$ | 13:38 |
| cmaloney | Right. You can find a used SB radio from $150-$200 at that rate | 13:40 |
| cmaloney | or an old laptop. :) | 13:40 |
| jrwren | DAC ICs aren't cheap eh? | 13:40 |
| cmaloney | Good ones aren't terribly cheap. | 13:40 |
| cmaloney | I think it's also the volume they're producing | 13:40 |
| cmaloney | eg: price might come down if there was sufficient demand | 13:41 |
| jrwren | that is a card. I'm thinking, buy a DAC IC and wire it up yourself. | 13:41 |
| jrwren | ICs are usually cheap. | 13:41 |
| cmaloney | That's an option. :) | 13:41 |
| jrwren | all the 16bit DAC i'm finding are $20 range. | 13:41 |
| cmaloney | http://www.aliexpress.com/price/burr-brown-dac_price.html | 13:42 |
| cmaloney | Not sure if this is indicitive. | 13:42 |
| ColonelPanic001 | my listing request for WSU's ubuntu mirror has been "pending review" for over a month now :( | 13:43 |
| cmaloney | ColonelPanic001: You need to do something to change that | 13:44 |
| jrwren | yup, and that is 24bit, right? | 13:44 |
| cmaloney | believe so | 13:44 |
| * cmaloney knows not a whit about burr brown DACs outside of they're _the_ brand name for DACs. | 13:45 | |
| jrwren | ColonelPanic001: I dont' know what Merit is like these days. 12 years ago they shut us down running mirrors pretty quick. | 13:45 |
| ColonelPanic001 | cmaloney: I alreayd just complained in IRC, what more can I do? | 13:45 |
| cmaloney | ColonelPanic001: Your work here is done | 13:45 |
| jrwren | ColonelPanic001: also, wsu mirrors in the past had a 5 concurrent user limit which made it rather useless as an official mirror | 13:45 |
| cmaloney | (honestly I have NFC what else needs to happen) | 13:45 |
| ColonelPanic001 | jrwren: hm. We've had this one a while (and it's not something I'm doing on my own, it was handed to me when _stink_ left us), haven't heard complaints yet... | 13:45 |
| ColonelPanic001 | jrwren: pft, that is pathetic. Shouldn't be the case now. | 13:46 |
| cmaloney | blame _stink_ | 13:46 |
| jrwren | hehe, maybe it is the same one. | 13:46 |
| ColonelPanic001 | we did change machines not long ago, right before _stink_ left, maybe the old machines were set up stupid like that | 13:46 |
| ColonelPanic001 | it was dumb - seperate machines for internal and external. The internal one you had to log into with your university creds. Can't have just anyone using CPAN! | 13:47 |
| _stink_ | no limits | 13:47 |
| _stink_ | anymore | 13:47 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I have no idea who thought that wasn't an incredibly stupid idea | 13:47 |
| cmaloney | ColonelPanic001: That's ridiculous | 13:47 |
| ColonelPanic001 | it was | 13:47 |
| ColonelPanic001 | no idea | 13:47 |
| _stink_ | tHOSE WERE NOT MY FAULT | 13:47 |
| ColonelPanic001 | it is no longer like that | 13:47 |
| cmaloney | Probably the same folks who think putting paper in the printers is somehow depleting university resources. | 13:47 |
| cmaloney | instead of having students put any ol' thing in there to fuck the printers up. | 13:48 |
| ColonelPanic001 | fwiw, the only limit I know of offhand on it now is apache's maxclients is 256. | 13:48 |
| cmaloney | because replacing a fuser every other month == better. | 13:48 |
| ColonelPanic001 | and I think it just has a 1GB card in there, rather than 10G like our ineternet connection (iirc) | 13:48 |
| cmaloney | (not bitter) | 13:48 |
| ColonelPanic001 | well now to be fair, printing is stupid | 13:48 |
| ColonelPanic001 | and people that print a lot should be punished | 13:48 |
| cmaloney | This was the 1990s when printing was awesome. :) | 13:48 |
| cmaloney | and people would print out newsletters with kanji / chinese on them. | 13:49 |
| ColonelPanic001 | it was never awesome, just more needed | 13:49 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I had some weird font thing when I printed a Bruce Schneier paper not long ago. Some char was coming up as a Tux | 13:49 |
| ColonelPanic001 | best printer problem ever | 13:49 |
| cmaloney | so someone would put in their resume paper and get boat-loads of Asian characters. | 13:49 |
| jrwren | Print is dead. | 13:49 |
| ColonelPanic001 | iirc, it was a variable in a math thing, some greek char, too. So, technically, it still was sound. | 13:49 |
| jrwren | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3v_ogRaTf4 | 13:50 |
| cmaloney | problem then was they would re-use that page until it was a sea of black. | 13:50 |
| ColonelPanic001 | jrwren: please come tell my coworker that prints stacks of her email, routinely | 13:50 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I literally went to a meeting where she brought her email, printed. | 13:50 |
| ColonelPanic001 | C&IT. | 13:50 |
| cmaloney | Anyone who prints email needs to be "re-educated" | 13:50 |
| cmaloney | ColonelPanic001: Gah | 13:51 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I agree | 13:51 |
| ColonelPanic001 | her cube is overflowing with paper | 13:51 |
| ColonelPanic001 | it's amazing, in its own wya | 13:51 |
| ColonelPanic001 | way | 13:51 |
| jrwren | wow. | 13:51 |
| jrwren | people still do that? | 13:51 |
| cmaloney | That's how you know she's a hard worker | 13:51 |
| ColonelPanic001 | she does | 13:51 |
| cmaloney | paper = productivity. | 13:51 |
| jrwren | i thought it was weird when people did that 15yrs ago. | 13:51 |
| ColonelPanic001 | it was. | 13:51 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: ++ | 13:51 |
| rick_h_ | psh, everyone know LoC is the true measure of productivity | 13:52 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: that | 13:52 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: is | 13:52 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: so | 13:52 |
| jrwren | when printing is free (at office at last job) , I'd print a paper from ACM and read it while I took a long restroom break at the office. | 13:52 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: true | 13:52 |
| jrwren | TMI? | 13:52 |
| ColonelPanic001 | yeah, the only printing I usually do is long-form stuff to read that's in PDF, because reading PDFs on screens blows | 13:52 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: That's before you had a tablet, right? :) | 13:52 |
| cmaloney | ColonelPanic001: To a certain degree | 13:53 |
| cmaloney | I use the tablet for my PDF reading | 13:53 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I have no tablet | 13:53 |
| ColonelPanic001 | well, no, I have one of the original Kindle Fires | 13:53 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: I don't want to bring a tablet to the restroom, so no. :p | 13:53 |
| ColonelPanic001 | where PDFs still suck | 13:53 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: They wash off. ;) | 13:54 |
| jrwren | i'm surprised by how little I use tablets. They are supposed to be this great thing and I barely use them. | 13:54 |
| ColonelPanic001 | meh, they have all the power of a laptop, without the nice keyboard, and my phone can be used for read-only for most things | 13:54 |
| ColonelPanic001 | my cheap phone acts like a tablet I can put in my pocket, basicaly | 13:55 |
| ColonelPanic001 | larger screen is nice. Pocket-sized for carrying around at all times is nicer | 13:55 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, same here | 13:55 |
| jrwren | same. | 13:56 |
| cmaloney | though reading on the phone is problematic for anything that doesn't reflow | 13:56 |
| cmaloney | so that gets used for eBooks / ePub | 13:56 |
| jrwren | luckily ebooks reflow | 13:56 |
| cmaloney | PDFs don't. | 13:56 |
| jrwren | :( | 13:56 |
| cmaloney | and I print my read / review to PDFs. | 13:56 |
| jrwren | huh? | 13:56 |
| ColonelPanic001 | yeah, reading a PDF on a large kindle or something would be nice, but not hundreds of dollars nice | 13:57 |
| cmaloney | Articles on the web that I want to read later. | 13:57 |
| jrwren | oh man, it would be reasonably easy to write a browser plugin that is print to epub. | 13:57 |
| cmaloney | https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/dotepub/okpfiebkkmjcnodegbbbiellepfhoglm?hl=en | 13:57 |
| jrwren | any good? | 13:57 |
| cmaloney | Just searched. | 13:57 |
| cmaloney | :) | 13:57 |
| jrwren | something new to try :) | 13:58 |
| cmaloney | Apparently it doesn't do well with a lot of images | 13:58 |
| cmaloney | which is expected. | 13:58 |
| jrwren | not really. | 13:58 |
| jrwren | epub is html+css | 13:58 |
| jrwren | image should be fine. | 13:58 |
| cmaloney | Well, it doesn't put the images in there. | 14:02 |
| jrwren | someone wrote a poor plugin :p | 14:03 |
| ColonelPanic001 | Yeoman Rand died :\ | 14:04 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, sad | 14:05 |
| rick_h_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IfgX-k7Hag the boss-man speaketh | 14:05 |
| jrwren | no wicked wolverine :( | 14:29 |
| rick_h_ | what is it? | 14:29 |
| rick_h_ | wily werewolf? | 14:30 |
| brousch | wacky wallabe | 14:31 |
| cmaloney | descent dropbear | 14:31 |
| === smoser` is now known as smoser | ||
| brousch | Will Canonical shut down all operations and liquidate after Z? | 15:20 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: that's my retirement plan | 15:21 |
| rick_h_ | :P | 15:21 |
| cmaloney | brousch: Not after aantsy aardvark | 15:21 |
| cmaloney | until after | 15:21 |
| cmaloney | God, Carly Fiorina is running for president | 15:59 |
| ColonelPanic001 | who? | 16:48 |
| jrwren | former HP CEO | 16:49 |
| jrwren | many techies feel that she ruined the company. | 16:49 |
| ColonelPanic001 | sounds perfect then | 16:50 |
| jrwren | i don't know why these CEOs bother. Has a CEO ever been elected president? | 16:56 |
| jrwren | so stupid they cannot learn from history. If Perot couldn't do it, you can't either :p | 16:57 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: hah | 17:05 |
| greg-g | cmaloney: jrwren ColonelPanic001 : http://carlyfiorina.org/ | 17:15 |
| greg-g | trust me | 17:15 |
| jrwren | yup. | 17:16 |
| jrwren | 20,000 or 30,000 smileys. | 17:16 |
| greg-g | if you go to the bottom: | 17:16 |
| greg-g | That's 30,000 people she laid off. People with families. And what does she say she would have done differently? | 17:16 |
| greg-g | "I would have done them all faster." | 17:17 |
| greg-g | —Carly Fiorina | 17:17 |
| jrwren | whoa... if I read that right, microsoft just announced an openstack competitor. You can run your own azure in your own DC | 17:17 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: yea, pretty much | 17:17 |
| rick_h_ | ok, here we go https://plus.google.com/collection/451AQ | 18:38 |
| cmaloney | heh | 18:39 |
| cmaloney | it's almost like the blog you always wanted. :) | 18:40 |
| rick_h_ | heh guess so | 18:40 |
| rick_h_ | so split my world up into 4 collections. Now folks can follow the rick they want to and I'll definitely start posting more | 18:40 |
| cmaloney | Nice. :) | 18:48 |
| cmaloney | I did a little as well. Going to start using them more. | 18:48 |
| cmaloney | Never liked the circles for posting. | 18:49 |
| cmaloney | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10986592/ | 20:38 |
| cmaloney | seems legit. | 20:38 |
| cmaloney | From an address with sigaint.org | 20:39 |
| cmaloney | Which apparently is an onion remailing service. | 20:39 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, no. | 20:39 |
| greg-g | why wouldn't someone doing bitcoin wallet escrow NOT send recruiting emails via a remailer? | 20:40 |
| greg-g | all seems legit to me ;) | 20:40 |
| cmaloney | I don't think there's a non-preopsition word in there that doesn't raise a red flag. | 20:41 |
| greg-g | I'm actually surprised you got a remailer message through your spam filter | 20:41 |
| cmaloney | It has a SPF record | 20:42 |
| cmaloney | so it worked. | 20:42 |
| cmaloney | Looks like I'll have to put in a special rule to block that domain | 20:42 |
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