[10:58] <bluesabre> elfy: http://markshuttleworth.com/archives/1466
[11:00] <elfy> bluesabre: yea - just saw comment in the community channel re that time 
[11:01] <elfy> fingers crossed for wibbly wobbly whino :p
[11:02] <bluesabre> :D
[11:05] <Unit193> Oh, I figured Ubuntu development just stopped.
[11:05] <bluesabre> guess that means I'll have work to do when I get home tonight
[11:05] <bluesabre> hey Unit193
[11:06] <Unit193> Howdy.
[14:33] <Unit193> bluesabre: 1. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/wily 2. You should be able to sync gui and notes plugin soon.
[14:53] <Unit193> Verve too, bluesabre.
[20:46] <Unit193> https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/xfce4.12.html Xfce 4.12 transition tracker for Debian.
[20:51] <micahg> \o/
[20:53]  * micahg hopes Xfce 4.14 lands before X
[21:01] <Unit193> Heh, good luck with that?
[21:02] <Unit193> http://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.14/roadmap (FWIW)
[21:03] <micahg> no dates
[21:37] <bluesabre> not sure about which patch Corsac was mentioning... :)
[21:37] <bluesabre> Unit193: awesome
[21:38] <bluesabre> I'll update branches today (add vivid/make trunk wily)
[21:38] <bluesabre> but first, going to get food, bbabl
[21:40] <Unit193> bluesabre: libxfcegui4.
[21:40] <bluesabre> ah, gotcha
[21:40] <bluesabre> figured the old plugins would just be dropped in debian
[21:41] <bluesabre> I feel like Corsac had potentially mentioned the same
[21:41] <bluesabre> but maybe not
[21:41] <bluesabre> bbl
[21:44] <slickymaster> knome, you around or already 'on the road'?
[21:45] <knome> no, i'm not around
[21:45] <slickymaster> lol
[21:46] <slickymaster> here's the thing, do I have the permissions to create the branch for wily?
[21:46] <knome> likely
[21:47] <slickymaster> I'm not seeing where I can set the branch up ?!
[21:47] <knome> i can handle that though
[21:47] <knome> it's not the most intuitive things to do
[21:47] <slickymaster> you could let me as I never done it before
[21:47] <knome> ok
[21:47] <knome> then i got to figure out that :P
[21:48] <slickymaster> I'll need the branch before registring the new series, right?
[21:48] <knome> yep
[21:48] <slickymaster> figured that much
[21:48] <slickymaster> but I'm not grasping where can I set up the new branch though
[21:48] <knome> just a sec
[21:49]  * Unit193 waits for full instructions from knome.
[21:49] <knome> Unit193, no.
[21:50] <knome> slickymaster, i think you just have to pull then push
[21:50] <knome> slickymaster, bzr branch lp:xubuntu-docs
[21:50] <knome> slickymaster, bzr push lp:~ubuntu-core-doc/xubuntu-docs/wily
[21:50] <slickymaster> just that?
[21:50] <knome> that's the first part
[21:51] <knome> then you need to register the new series at https://launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs/+addseries
[21:51] <slickymaster> you mean the "Register a series" option
[21:51] <knome> after that, you need to change the development focus to that new branch/series at https://launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs/+edit
[21:51] <knome> to your question: yes
[21:53] <slickymaster> another question knome, when pushing bzr push lp:~ubuntu-core-doc/xubuntu-docs/wily I can at the same time bump version number in changelog, can't I?
[21:53] <knome> yes
[21:53] <slickymaster> anyhting left, other than those ^^^?
[21:53] <knome> then you of course need a commit too
[21:53] <knome> i don't think so, but do that first and i'll tell you if there is..
[21:53] <slickymaster> oki, thanks knome 
[21:54] <knome> do you think we can disable utopic translation updates already?
[21:54] <knome> what about trusty, do we still intend to do translation releases for that?
[21:55] <slickymaster> that would depend on ant potential progress that would/could happen
[21:55] <knome> ok
[21:55] <slickymaster> which I don't see as something likely
[21:55] <knome> ok, i'll disable the automatic updates then
[21:55] <knome> same for vivid?
[21:56] <slickymaster> for vivid yes
[21:56] <slickymaster> I mean, if something out of the blue would happen it would probably be with utopic
[21:56] <knome> so want to keep those?
[21:57] <slickymaster> I'd disable only for vivid, for the time being knome 
[21:57] <slickymaster> am I accessing it wrongly?
[21:57] <knome> nope
[21:57] <knome> i also disabled trusty
[21:57] <knome> but am keeping utopic
[21:57] <slickymaster> ok, thanks
[21:57] <knome> does that make sense btw?
[21:58] <slickymaster> lol, wich one is the LTS? u or t?
[21:58] <knome> trusty...
[21:58] <slickymaster> hmm, why disabling trusty then knome?
[21:58] <knome> because you said so!
[21:59] <slickymaster> because I was mixing the versions :P
[21:59] <slickymaster> I meant the other way around then
[21:59] <knome> now i've disabled vivid and utopid and enabled trusty
[21:59] <knome> "Translations are imported with every update from branch lp:xubuntu-docs/trusty, and exported daily to branch lp:xubuntu-docs/trusty."
[21:59] <slickymaster> yeah, that was what I intended
[22:00] <slickymaster> thanks
[22:00] <knome> so where are we with the branch/series creation?
[22:00] <Unit193> Not there yet: bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/xubuntu-docs/wily/".
[22:00] <slickymaster> haven't started yet, was talking to you knome:P
[22:00] <slickymaster> Unit193 ^^
[22:04] <Unit193> I'll of course wait until later, but I also see a branch option in +setbranch
[22:06] <Unit193> Hrm, looks like x-d-s stopped using tags at utopic..
[22:07] <knome> Unit193, yeah, the branch needs to exist..
[22:12] <slickymaster> all done
[22:12] <slickymaster> want to check knome, Unit193 
[22:13] <knome> looks good to me
[22:14] <Unit193> slickymaster: Set to "Mature"?
[22:15] <slickymaster> I set it to Development Unit193 
[22:15] <Unit193> Sorry, meant vivid.
[22:15] <slickymaster> that wasn't me
[22:15] <slickymaster> did you knome ^^^?
[22:15] <knome> Unit193, done.
[22:15] <Unit193> Danke, knome.
[22:15] <knome> slickymaster, he meant vivid should be mature
[22:16] <knome> because it's released
[22:16] <slickymaster> yes, and I agree with that
[22:19] <Unit193> knome: I asked about the process, because technically I can do the same to artwork and default-settings.  Though, default settings targets trunk, so wily wouldn't be created.
[22:19] <knome> Unit193, i don't know if they use to do the same thing, but if yes... then that's it
[22:19] <slickymaster> knome, as I'm at it, going to also update the xubuntu-index-start page
[22:20] <slickymaster> but you could do something for me, please
[22:20] <knome> slickymaster, tell me
[22:20] <slickymaster> which is to enable the automatic translations for this series
[22:20] <knome> already?
[22:20] <slickymaster> as you're at that
[22:20] <slickymaster> it's the early bird
[22:21] <slickymaster> just saying so none of us forget that at it falls into oblivion through all the cycle
[22:22] <slickymaster> but if you think it's too early, no problem
[22:22] <knome> i requested a one-time import for the templates and translation files
[22:22] <knome> and have set up automatic import for those
[22:22] <knome> but not automatic export back to branch (yet) because we really don't need that now
[22:22] <slickymaster> sure
[22:23] <slickymaster> thanks knome 
[22:23] <knome> that ought to be updated in some time
[22:23] <knome> it still says vivid is the suggested target
[22:23] <slickymaster> and I want to start to address the ubiquity translations issue next week
[22:24] <knome> yep
[22:24] <slickymaster> but I'll be naging you about it before doing it
[22:24] <knome> then it has to be wednesday or later next week
[22:25] <slickymaster> later next week, after your vacation
[22:25] <knome> wednesday is fine, i'm about on the afternoon or sth once i've got up from the bed
[22:26] <slickymaster> lol
[22:26] <knome> we're landing at 00:30am wed, so depending how long it takes to get the luggage out and the taxi home, i *might* even boot up some machine then
[22:26] <knome> (local time, that is, so 21:30UTC tuesday)
[22:28] <slickymaster> well, there won't be no jet lag
[22:28] <knome> true
[22:31] <knome> great, now the page updated
[22:31] <knome> now wily is the translation focus
[22:32] <slickymaster> \o/
[22:32] <knome> gosh, i need a new, super tiny wallet
[22:33] <slickymaster> what for? to carry less money?
[22:50] <slickymaster> that's odd knome 
[22:51] <slickymaster> I'm getting this when trying to edit the changelog
[22:51] <slickymaster> dch -e
[22:51] <slickymaster> parsechangelog/debian: warning:     debian/changelog(l8): found start of entry where expected more change data or trailer
[22:51] <slickymaster> LINE: xubuntu-docs (15.04.2) vivid; urgency=medium
[22:51] <slickymaster> parsechangelog/debian: warning:     debian/changelog(l8): found eof where expected more change data or trailer
[22:51] <slickymaster> dch: fatal error at line 667:
[22:51] <slickymaster> No maintainer in changelog!
[22:51] <knome> ask Unit193 
[22:52] <slickymaster> I think I know what the problem is
[22:52] <slickymaster> lack of empty lines at start and end of the file
[22:53] <Unit193> There's only one space.
[22:53] <Unit193> slickymaster: Also, that's not released, don't call it wily.  Call it UNRELEASED.
[22:54] <Unit193> http://paste.openstack.org/show/zVH5OztLaDX7jA4wNVkv
[22:54] <slickymaster> ok Unit193 
[22:55] <slickymaster> thought it was another issue tbh
[22:55] <Unit193> knome, ochosi, bluesabre: https://code.launchpad.net/xubuntu-default-settings - https://code.launchpad.net/xubuntu-artwork
[22:56] <Unit193> knome: Can you add a series for utopic?  https://code.launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs/
[23:07] <slickymaster> Unit193, do you want me to add the utopic series?
[23:07] <Unit193> Would be good for someone to, I believe.
[23:07] <slickymaster> oki
[23:17] <slickymaster> Unit193, done. Please ckeck to confirm
[23:18] <Unit193> slickymaster: Yep!  Danke.
[23:18] <slickymaster> sure, np