Etriaph | ahoneybun: I suggest border-radius: 5px on the content regions block element :D | 00:04 |
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Etriaph | ahoneybun: Also, will the documentation be provided on mobile using media queries? | 00:04 |
ahoneybun | not sure yet | 00:05 |
ahoneybun | I'm in talk with ovidiu-florin about linking the Docs with the new site and maybe it can look nice on mobile | 00:05 |
Etriaph | It would be handy for those having difficulty getting the system configured to be able to walk through documentation on a tablet or mobile device. | 00:05 |
ahoneybun | I agree there, I'll add a card for it | 00:08 |
ahoneybun | if we get ebook, pdf support it would be good on the mobile front | 00:09 |
* ahoneybun starts Spotify and getting to work | 00:09 | |
ahoneybun | any help with HTML and CSS is always welcome Etriaph :) | 00:10 |
valorie | we have ebook integration from the kde wiki | 00:10 |
Etriaph | ahoneybun: I could write a few books. | 00:10 |
valorie | pdf support as well | 00:10 |
valorie | that's how books.kde.org works | 00:10 |
ahoneybun | valorie: I've never used it | 00:10 |
Etriaph | ahoneybun: I'm a web developer by trade. | 00:11 |
valorie | the plugin might have to be enabled | 00:11 |
ahoneybun | yea I think it does | 00:11 |
ahoneybun | Etriaph: awesome to know | 00:11 |
valorie | but I've generated an ebook for the amarok docs | 00:11 |
Etriaph | If you have any questions, you can query me and I'll answer as best I can. | 00:11 |
ahoneybun | Etriaph: thank you very much Etriaph | 00:11 |
valorie | Etriaph: we have a nice group developing the website here; it would be great to have your input as well | 00:12 |
ahoneybun | I'll add you to the jsfiddle | 00:12 |
ahoneybun | yes just ping ovidiu-florin, soee, and myself | 00:12 |
Etriaph | valorie: I had originally offered to assist with the website, but I disagree with WordPress. | 00:12 |
valorie | if canonical IS ever institutes our new site.... | 00:12 |
valorie | ah | 00:12 |
valorie | originally meaning back before our SoK student started, or recently? | 00:13 |
Etriaph | I've put together about 120 wordpress sites over the years, it usually turns into a mess. | 00:13 |
valorie | because the SoK student's work *sucked* imo | 00:13 |
Etriaph | Uh, about 8 months ago. | 00:13 |
valorie | reboot since then | 00:13 |
Etriaph | No one really had a direction for it, that along with it being WordPress = Etriaph Stays Away | 00:13 |
Etriaph | :D | 00:13 |
valorie | I'm sure that there are still contributions to be made, but it was looking great last I looked at the testsite | 00:14 |
ahoneybun | Etriaph: I'm trying not to change the HTML as much as possible since it is built by userbase | 00:14 |
valorie | pity that Canonical didn't come through for us | 00:14 |
ahoneybun | http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/ | 00:14 |
Etriaph | ahoneybun: Ohh... | 00:14 |
ahoneybun | ? | 00:15 |
Etriaph | ahoneybun: k, lemme take a look at the structure first. | 00:15 |
ahoneybun | you see the top left with the prev and next links? I'm trying to move them around | 00:15 |
ahoneybun | left to the left, right to the right | 00:15 |
ahoneybun | Etriaph: #idname, .classname? | 00:16 |
Etriaph | If it's uniq, you can position by ID, but depending on the structure of the HTML it may be difficult to do. Looking at it now. | 00:17 |
ahoneybun | yea but then have to change it on all the html files | 00:18 |
ahoneybun | at least 10+ | 00:18 |
valorie | oh gosh, have to eat something and go to my dad's | 00:22 |
valorie | bbl | 00:22 |
Etriaph | ahoneybun: Sorry, got pulled away, but navCenter is the class that applies | 00:52 |
Etriaph | ahoneybun: You could position anywhere you want. | 00:52 |
ahoneybun | I've using #footer .nextCell | 00:52 |
ahoneybun | but it will not go all the way to the right | 00:52 |
Etriaph | .navCenter .navigation .nextCell | 00:53 |
Etriaph | That's what I would use as my selector. | 00:53 |
Etriaph | So .navCenter .navigation .nextCell { /* Styles */ } | 00:54 |
Etriaph | Precede it with #content | 00:54 |
ahoneybun | thanks | 00:55 |
ahoneybun | still in the center sadly | 00:56 |
ahoneybun | well I moved it lol | 00:57 |
Etriaph | The trouble is the navigation is in a table. | 00:58 |
Etriaph | So the table, and it's cells, have to be width: 100% | 00:58 |
Etriaph | Do you want a different display for the footer version than at the top of the content? | 00:59 |
ahoneybun | no both can be the same I believe | 00:59 |
ahoneybun | Riddell: valorie ovidiu-florin Etriaph http://imgur.com/lkCqDiy | 00:59 |
Etriaph | ahoneybun: Can you show me a shot of it with the lower navigation as well, fully lit up? ie. Prev Up Next? | 01:01 |
ahoneybun | Etriaph: aren't you on the jsfiddle? | 01:02 |
Etriaph | I am. I'd just rather not fiddle the work; I want to CSS it with Kate | 01:02 |
ahoneybun | http://imgur.com/uV9Dppy | 01:03 |
Etriaph | OK, lemme fiddle with some of this CSS. I'm going to use the HTML you have in the fiddle and put my CSS in the fiddle when I'm done. | 01:06 |
ahoneybun | ok | 01:06 |
Etriaph | There. | 01:14 |
ahoneybun | wait | 01:14 |
ahoneybun | oh | 01:14 |
Etriaph | Tables are as wide as their contents | 01:14 |
Etriaph | So .navigation set to width of 100% | 01:15 |
ahoneybun | I was looking at the kde-docs.css and how they did it | 01:15 |
ahoneybun | we might be on different ones since I don't see any changes | 01:16 |
Etriaph | Well the block element that holds the navigation is free-floating, you can do whatever you want with it now; just remember that tables are only ever as wide as the data they hold. | 01:16 |
Etriaph | Now we're on the same one. | 01:17 |
Etriaph | You'll still have to right-align the text in the .nextCell | 01:17 |
ahoneybun | works | 01:18 |
ahoneybun | :) | 01:19 |
Etriaph | What outputs that HTML? | 01:20 |
ahoneybun | userbase.kde.org | 01:20 |
ahoneybun | a script | 01:20 |
ahoneybun | ask sitter or Riddell | 01:21 |
ahoneybun | though there should be a image somewhere on there | 01:22 |
ahoneybun | here is the html with the real css | 01:22 |
ahoneybun | http://docs.kubuntu.org/documentation-for-kubuntu.html | 01:22 |
Etriaph | So do you provide structure and content, it generates HTML around it? | 01:22 |
ahoneybun | yea I believe so | 01:22 |
ahoneybun | it is pulled from here http://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu | 01:23 |
Etriaph | Those templates need to be updated. | 01:23 |
Etriaph | Google is going on a tirade and will soon no longer index sites that aren't responsive. | 01:24 |
Etriaph | To mobile, tablet, etc. | 01:24 |
Etriaph | So the CSS for the manual is going to have to take that into account; whether or not it deals with the different viewport sizes is its own choice, but the media query has to be there. | 01:25 |
Etriaph | So HTML5 + CSS3 | 01:25 |
Etriaph | I hope that doesn't scare you away from doing what you're doing :D | 01:25 |
ahoneybun | the templates are from KDE upstream | 01:31 |
ahoneybun | so they have to update them | 01:31 |
Etriaph | I might update them myself, if they'll take the patches. | 01:31 |
Etriaph | Do you know which repo they live in? | 01:32 |
ahoneybun | no clue sadly | 01:33 |
Etriaph | For our web site and services, probably should have a look at this: http://searchengineland.com/google-search-algorithm-adds-mobile-friendly-factors-app-indexing-ranking-215573 | 01:34 |
Etriaph | It's a concern as of April 21 | 01:34 |
Etriaph | What domain is the new site hosted at? | 01:35 |
Etriaph | Oh, found it. | 01:36 |
ahoneybun | I'm trying to center images | 01:39 |
ahoneybun | Etriaph: templates is the problem with using someones elses | 01:41 |
ahoneybun | they have to change them or let us | 01:41 |
Etriaph | Is the manual intended to be embedded into userbase.kde.org or elsewhere? | 01:43 |
ahoneybun | the docs you mean? | 01:43 |
Etriaph | Yes. | 01:43 |
ahoneybun | userbase => kubuntu-docs package => docs.kubuntu.org | 01:44 |
ahoneybun | I believe | 01:44 |
ahoneybun | everything comes from the userbase pages | 01:44 |
Etriaph | So they generate a tarball or do we get them individually? | 01:45 |
ahoneybun | not sure if it is a tarbal | 01:45 |
ahoneybun | Etriaph: you have Kubuntu installed? | 01:46 |
Etriaph | 15.04, yes. | 01:46 |
ahoneybun | installed kubuntu-docs? | 01:46 |
Etriaph | Probably not, one sec... | 01:46 |
Etriaph | I do now | 01:46 |
ahoneybun | /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kubuntu/ | 01:47 |
ahoneybun | is where that installs | 01:47 |
ahoneybun | so userbase exports to a docbook and then a script converts to HTML | 01:47 |
Etriaph | So when you repackage it you're just splicing in CSS? | 01:47 |
ahoneybun | the KDE site does I think \ | 01:48 |
Etriaph | OK, so that script is likely doing an XSL transformation to HTML | 01:48 |
ahoneybun | not sure where it comes from since it is not in or source | 01:48 |
Etriaph | If we had the docbook format, we could play with it. | 01:48 |
ahoneybun | you it is in the that dir | 01:49 |
ahoneybun | you can branch this https://code.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/kubuntu-docs/vivid | 01:50 |
ahoneybun | as it is the same version as in the repos | 01:50 |
Etriaph | Well it's just a matter of processing what's there in the docbook format into HTML5. | 01:52 |
Etriaph | I'd have to write an XSL stylesheet for it then transform; not something I'm going to start today, but something possible down the road :D | 01:53 |
ahoneybun | but there you have to do it everytime a new release is out (which is not much really) | 01:53 |
ahoneybun | yay :D | 01:53 |
ahoneybun | or for changes made to the userbase page anyway | 01:53 |
ahoneybun | We need static pages for each release | 01:53 |
Etriaph | Well when the manual is updated and you have a new *.docbook, you'd just run the transformer over it. | 01:54 |
Etriaph | And it'll spit out pages. | 01:54 |
Etriaph | KDE itself has a lot of web technologies that are out of date it seems. | 01:55 |
Etriaph | www.kde.org is not responsive to changes in viewport at all. | 01:56 |
ahoneybun | Etriaph: it would be much easier if we write the docs in HTML and then host it ourselves since we have a server anyway | 01:56 |
Etriaph | ahoneybun: Well, it being in WordPress would make that remarkably easy. | 01:56 |
ahoneybun | but HTML is not as easily as MediaWiki | 01:56 |
ahoneybun | Etriaph: if we merge the WP site with the Docs | 01:57 |
ahoneybun | I think they should be together as well so they are very easy to find | 01:57 |
Etriaph | Oh, separate domain | 01:57 |
ahoneybun | yea | 01:57 |
ahoneybun | atm | 01:57 |
ahoneybun | could link it | 01:57 |
Etriaph | Oyy... docs.kubuntu.org is just that? | 01:57 |
Etriaph | (Not to diminish it, but it's just the manual?) | 01:58 |
ahoneybun | yea sadly | 01:58 |
ahoneybun | not pretty atm | 01:58 |
Etriaph | Now I'm itching to create a new Rails app just for that :D | 01:58 |
Etriaph | Who hosts that? | 01:59 |
ahoneybun | not sure the host | 01:59 |
ahoneybun | I think it was donated | 01:59 |
ahoneybun | host as in (GoDaddy?) | 01:59 |
Etriaph | Yes | 01:59 |
Etriaph | Where is it hosted, hardware, stack? | 01:59 |
ahoneybun | don't know | 02:00 |
ahoneybun | Riddell: might | 02:00 |
ahoneybun | I should stop pinging him lol | 02:00 |
Etriaph | LOL | 02:00 |
Etriaph | Who's "in charge" of all of the web parts under Kubuntu.org? | 02:01 |
ahoneybun | well he is in charge of Kubuntu as a whole | 02:02 |
Etriaph | OK. | 02:02 |
ahoneybun | ovidiu-florin: and soee have been working on the new WP | 02:02 |
* Etriaph nods | 02:02 | |
ahoneybun | but Riddell is the one to talk to for that info | 02:02 |
Etriaph | I tend to shy away from using PHP on the web, these days, as most of the software out there is still old-school PHP5 (in some cases PHP4) format/ideology/compatible. | 02:03 |
Etriaph | WordPress is one of those. | 02:03 |
ahoneybun | I'll be heading off for the night. | 02:03 |
Etriaph | Ah, OK | 02:03 |
Etriaph | Sweet dreams :D | 02:03 |
ahoneybun | its 10pm here | 02:03 |
Etriaph | I'm in EST too | 02:04 |
Etriaph | But I'm up late :D | 02:04 |
ahoneybun | thanks you too, hopefully you'll be here tomorrow | 02:04 |
ahoneybun | and join the UOS! | 02:04 |
Etriaph | I'll be around for sure. | 02:04 |
Etriaph | Take it easy. | 02:04 |
ahoneybun | you too | 02:04 |
* ahoneybun is away | 02:04 | |
valorie | ahoneybun: a note on that page you showed - if it says Kubuntu [tm] once, it should say it every time (personally, I would leave it off) | 04:18 |
valorie | based on the KISS principle | 04:20 |
Etriaph | sgclark: Are you alive there? | 04:20 |
sgclark | hmm? | 04:20 |
Etriaph | I just got your email re: bugs in 15.04 with backports | 04:21 |
Etriaph | Do you happen to have an IM client that I could test a message with you with? All of my contacts are asleep | 04:21 |
sgclark | just need someone using backports to see if they can reproduce | 04:21 |
Etriaph | Yup, I'm doing that. :D | 04:22 |
sgclark | hmm, don't think I set IM back up yet | 04:22 |
Etriaph | OK | 04:22 |
sgclark | oh, ok great | 04:22 |
sgclark | Etriaph: thanks! | 04:22 |
Etriaph | I can only confirm 4.2, I don't understand 4.3 entirely so I can't do much with that one. | 04:24 |
Etriaph | I'll send a reply to the list, hopefully you can collect more than one report. | 04:25 |
sgclark | Thank you so much, really appreciated | 04:26 |
Etriaph | I would bet their installation is just borked. | 04:28 |
Etriaph | sgclark: np | 04:33 |
sgclark | yeah so far I cannot reporduce a single one | 04:36 |
ovidiu-florin | ahoneybun: Always free for open source projects at readthedocs.org. | 05:26 |
ovidiu-florin | quoted from their website | 05:26 |
ovidiu-florin | ahoneybun: I'd say we should go for readthedocs, it's already done, it's free | 05:30 |
* Etriaph sleep & | 05:34 | |
valorie | free for open source projects does not equal free and open source | 06:13 |
shadeslayer | ScottK: would it be possible to backport Python 2.7.9 into ubuntu-backports? | 07:17 |
shadeslayer | or would it be way too much work / effort | 07:17 |
shadeslayer | the kde sysadmins wanted it | 07:18 |
lordievader | Good morning. | 08:35 |
sitter | Riddell: how would you like to go about kubuntu_wily_archive branches? should we simply branch all of them from where we have vivid_archive or do it on-demand when we upload something new? | 08:57 |
Riddell | sitter: is it not better to branch from kubuntu_stable ? | 08:58 |
sitter | Riddell: only if we then do an upload | 09:00 |
sitter | otherwise that's like on-demand branching anyway, except you do it all at once such that you need to re-merge it anyway once a new version comes out as the archive branch is then outdated compared to stable | 09:00 |
sitter | anyone knows about this https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?68035-Feedback-on-Kubuntu-15-04&p=371533&viewfull=1#post371533 | 09:03 |
Riddell | sitter: "limitations" is hardly a useful bug report :) | 09:04 |
sitter | well, yeah there was no bug report | 09:05 |
sitter | which is a common scheme I see with people whining about the release | 09:06 |
sitter | then again since no one triages the bugs anyway, I suppose it is for the best | 09:06 |
ngaio | I filed a bug report about some 15.04 backport packaging errors. Let me know if I need to add any more details: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/1451728 | 09:19 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1451728 in Kubuntu PPA "kde-config-telepathy-accounts package install error" [Undecided,New] | 09:19 |
Riddell | thanks ngaio that's interesting | 09:21 |
Riddell | no timeline for when I can get to that I'm afraid | 09:21 |
Riddell | ngaio: have you been able to work around it? | 09:21 |
ngaio | Riddell, I have no idea how to work around it ;-) | 09:22 |
Riddell | ngaio: sudo dpkg --install --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-l10n-engb_4%3a15.04.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa3_all.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/kaccounts-providers_15.04.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa1_all.deb | 09:23 |
Riddell | sudo dpkg --install --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-config-telepathy-accounts_15.04.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa1_amd64.deb | 09:23 |
Riddell | sudo apt -f install | 09:23 |
Riddell | should do it | 09:23 |
ngaio | thanks, I think that did the trick | 09:26 |
Riddell | I think I'll close bug 1451749 | 09:37 |
ubottu | bug 1451749 in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Wish: provide a way to run kde 4 with vivid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1451749 | 09:37 |
sheytan | hey guys | 09:41 |
sheytan | got this while update to apps 15.04 http://pastebin.com/MRuQhU8v | 09:41 |
* Riddell blogs http://jriddell.org/2015/05/05/ubuntu-online-summit-ubuntu-community-team-mailing-list/ | 09:43 | |
Riddell | sheytan: looking | 09:43 |
Riddell | sheytan: looks like I missed that, how annying I thought I got all those overlaps | 09:44 |
Riddell | sheytan: you know how to work around it? | 09:44 |
sitter | "How is kde-l10n- still a thing?" | 09:45 |
sheytan | Riddell: well, i just did apt-get upgrade and it's working | 09:45 |
Riddell | sitter: KDE Applications ships the separated language packs same as KDE SC did | 09:45 |
sheytan | Riddell: that error was from muon updater | 09:45 |
sheytan | apt-get upgrade done the job, but why was that? | 09:45 |
sheytan | can i reboot safely? :D | 09:46 |
Riddell | sheytan: yep | 09:46 |
sitter | Riddell: yes, how is that still a thing | 09:46 |
* sheytan reboots | 09:47 | |
Riddell | sitter: because that's what the kde release team decided? where decided means nobody had an opinion so albert got on and did it and you should say thanks | 09:47 |
sitter | thanks! | 09:48 |
* sheytan is back | 09:50 | |
Riddell | sheytan: computer still alive? | 09:50 |
sheytan | but where's my 'About system' KCM missing | 09:50 |
sheytan | Riddell: yeah | 09:50 |
Riddell | sheytan: it moved to kinfocenter which is where it logically should be but is a bit more hidden alas | 09:51 |
sheytan | oh :D | 09:51 |
sheytan | there it is | 09:51 |
sheytan | heh, telepathy still sucks with facebook ;/ | 09:53 |
sheytan | it keeps saying my password isin't correct, but it was working | 09:54 |
Riddell | it's dead now isn't it? | 09:54 |
Riddell | or just about to be | 09:54 |
Riddell | maybe it died on may 1st | 09:54 |
sheytan | it was fine till yesterday i guess | 09:54 |
tsdgeos | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/facebook-chat-api-empathy-pidgin-stop-working | 09:54 |
Riddell | blame facebook I'm afraid, they withdrew the API | 09:54 |
tsdgeos | i guess this applies to telepathy too | 09:54 |
sheytan | that's what i thought | 09:54 |
Riddell | the dark web goes darker, someone should tell the government | 09:55 |
sheytan | call 911 :D | 09:55 |
sheytan | or 112 for europe | 09:56 |
sheytan | anyway, this sucks, i was liking it ;/ | 09:56 |
Riddell | it does suck, some people are working on screen scraping messenger.com so hopefully it'll come back | 09:56 |
sheytan | what's more likly, facebook will anncounce messanger for linux | 09:57 |
shadeslayer | pft | 09:57 |
Riddell | never going to happen | 09:57 |
shadeslayer | well | 09:57 |
sheytan | i hate that shit, when everybody trys to force you using their tools | 09:57 |
shadeslayer | sheytan: http://messengerfordesktop.com/ | 09:57 |
sheytan | shadeslayer: doesn't it work is xmpp too? | 09:57 |
Riddell | good thing in the free software community we all understand the principles of freely distributing and sharing our work | 09:58 |
shadeslayer | sheytan: no | 09:58 |
sheytan | it is from facebook team or 3rd party? | 09:58 |
shadeslayer | sheytan: it's basically a web browser pointing to the mobile version of messenger.com | 09:58 |
shadeslayer | sheytan: 3rd party | 09:58 |
sitter | Riddell: so what do we do with wily branches? | 09:59 |
sheytan | can't you do the same with plasma applet? | 09:59 |
shadeslayer | possibly | 09:59 |
sheytan | dolphin still doesn't remember new added places to the sidebar ;/ | 10:00 |
sheytan | shit | 10:00 |
Riddell | sitter: I've given my suggestion of branching from kubuntu_stable, if you want to branch from kubuntu_vivid_archive and then we'll merge in kubuntu_stable when something is uploaded that works too, it just seems like an extra step | 10:00 |
sitter | Riddell: stable requires a new upstream release | 10:01 |
sitter | Riddell: what we could do is branch from backports if backports is available | 10:01 |
Riddell | sitter: so why ask if you already know the answer you want? :) | 10:01 |
sitter | backports just came to mind | 10:02 |
sitter | Riddell: also FTR I really really really do not like qml files in arch:all datapackages | 10:04 |
sitter | it feels very naughty to have data recommends: qml-module-yolo, knowing full well that yolo is indeed required for the qml files to work | 10:04 |
sitter | this might need some different approach potentially | 10:05 |
Riddell | sitter: hmm how does other interpreted languages do it? | 10:13 |
Riddell | ScottK: what's python's approach to that? ↑ | 10:13 |
Riddell | sheytan: ngaio uploading 4:15.04.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa4 to backports so fix the issue with overlapping in those packages | 10:14 |
ngaio | Riddell, thank you | 10:16 |
seaLne | has anyone noticed since the vivid app updates that the open file dialog need a double click to go into a folder? for example attatching a file in kmail, dolphin still behaves fine | 10:26 |
Riddell | seaLne: curious, that was a bug in breeze that should be fixed in plasma | 10:27 |
Riddell | maybe the fix didn't make it in time for the backports packages but I did put it in the archive packages | 10:27 |
seaLne | this only appeared after rebooting this morining, i have backports ppa enabled | 10:28 |
seaLne | i'd have never guessed to blaim breeze | 10:29 |
Riddell | maybe the bug re-appeared | 10:29 |
Riddell | seaLne: Qt allows the widget style to set a preference on double click | 10:29 |
Riddell | anyone on CI able to test it out? | 10:29 |
sitter | kate file open uses single click | 10:30 |
sitter | (unstable) | 10:30 |
seaLne | kate seems fine for me to | 10:31 |
Riddell | actually I get single click using kate 15.04 from backports ppa | 10:31 |
Riddell | seaLne: oh it's qt4 is why | 10:31 |
Riddell | qt5 won't be affected | 10:31 |
sitter | kmail atttaching indeed is double click | 10:32 |
Riddell | d_ed: didn't you fix that bug? ↑ | 10:32 |
tsdgeos | Riddell: kate is not qt4 | 10:35 |
Riddell | tsdgeos: right that's why we don't see the problem there | 10:35 |
tsdgeos | ok | 10:35 |
d_ed | Riddell: I did ... but for 5.3.1 | 10:36 |
d_ed | if you can call the qt4 version 5.3.1 | 10:36 |
Riddell | oh I see you only pushed it a couple of days ago | 10:37 |
sitter | Riddell: when exactly | 10:38 |
sitter | interesting | 10:39 |
sitter | jenkins decided to not build breeze-qt4 | 10:39 |
sitter | even more intersteing is that according to jenkins it last polled the repo apr 24 | 10:39 |
Riddell | "Git commit aa34eb031e205c6b21bcfe055523ca9be95b8dac by David Edmundson. Committed on 03/05/2015 at 19:29" | 10:41 |
Riddell | sitter: ↑ | 10:42 |
BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:22 |
Riddell | d_ed: could you lean on mck a bit here? we can't co-install kaccounts and gnome accounts which goes against the entire rest of the linux desktop world https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347219 | 11:29 |
ubottu | KDE bug 347219 in accounts-kcm "files overlap with gnome account" [Major,Unconfirmed] | 11:29 |
ScottK | Riddell: I think that typically the arch all would depend on the arch any extension. It's not rare in the python world for there to be a fallback pure python (arch all) implementation if the C extension is not available. In such cases, one might recommend the arch any bit. | 11:30 |
ScottK | One sort of example that comes to mind is the ssl module in python itself. | 11:31 |
ScottK | If you somehow rip out openssl, it still works, just a lot slower. | 11:31 |
soee | Riddell: no info about apps 15.04 on g+ ? | 12:20 |
Riddell | who do we interopete with? I'm writing a talk about interoperability and I've got a bunch of topics but I need more https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1reTg2QKRAipyZmsRPb_tPxnSkiwf-aN1nkbpB5n0-Lk/edit?usp=sharing | 13:03 |
Sho_ | interkopete | 13:04 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer, yofel: Think it would be a good idea to deregister #project-neon and abandon the channel? | 13:39 |
shadeslayer | yeah | 13:39 |
shadeslayer | I reckon | 13:39 |
shadeslayer | want to do it? :P | 13:39 |
Quintasan | I'm not sure who registered it in the first place :P | 13:39 |
yofel | make it invite only and forward it into here | 13:39 |
yofel | sitter probably? | 13:39 |
sitter | [15:42] [Notice] -ChanServ- Channel #project-neon is not registered. | 13:42 |
Quintasan | Hmm, I dropped it | 13:42 |
Quintasan | I guess a redirect would be better. | 13:42 |
Quintasan | Aw shit, now I can't register it :D | 13:43 |
Quintasan | sitter: Can you make kubotu_ leave #project-neon? | 13:45 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: I can't really kick anyone since I locked out myself from the channel by dropping it. | 13:46 |
Quintasan | Now noone has OP and can't get OPs since it's not registered | 13:46 |
sitter | kubotu_: part #project-neon | 13:47 |
sitter | kubotu_: nick kubotu | 13:47 |
=== kubotu_ is now known as kubotu | ||
shadeslayer | heh | 13:48 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: fun | 13:48 |
Quintasan | sitter: Thanks. | 13:48 |
* sitter rather though he fixed hplip | 13:53 | |
sitter | Riddell: do you have some hp printor in the office? | 13:53 |
sitter | I fear my test case perhaps was not good enough | 13:53 |
Riddell | sitter: only a Brother printer | 14:01 |
sitter | such a Bother | 14:09 |
sitter | badumtss | 14:09 |
* sitter heads to the basement in search of a printer | 14:09 | |
Quintasan | shadeslayer or yofel: I need magic irc powers on target channel to set redirects. | 14:28 |
Quintasan | Or wait, I could give someone here the powers in #project-neon | 14:28 |
shadeslayer | yeah I think I have magic powers here | 14:28 |
shadeslayer | if you tell me how to do it | 14:28 |
shadeslayer | yep | 14:28 |
Quintasan | join #project-neon | 14:28 |
Quintasan | I'll give you rights | 14:29 |
shadeslayer | invite only | 14:29 |
shadeslayer | such exclusive | 14:29 |
shadeslayer | wow | 14:29 |
Riddell | elite | 14:29 |
sitter | hplip tray works just fine | 14:30 |
Riddell | it's compiled right, no skype issue of needing to install i386:sni-qt ? | 14:31 |
quintasa1 | wow | 14:32 |
quintasa1 | such redirects | 14:32 |
sitter | Riddell: skype is an issue | 14:32 |
sitter | but that really is upstream. we can hardly seed half the i386 tooling just so in case the user installs skype they get the sni-qt thing | 14:32 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: werks? neat | 14:32 |
shadeslayer | says invite only for me | 14:33 |
Riddell | sitter: I think some kubuntu-notification-helper popup is the best we can do there | 14:33 |
sitter | yeah, I was just about that say that | 14:33 |
Riddell | it's already on the 15.10 todo | 14:33 |
sitter | technically we should be able to craft that via hooks btw | 14:33 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: definitely works | 14:33 |
shadeslayer | okay | 14:33 |
shadeslayer | *shrug* | 14:33 |
sitter | have a package that registers an dpkg interest thingy on usr/bin/skype and if the file appears it creates a hook file that in turn triggers the knh hook stuff | 14:34 |
sitter | Riddell: problem with all of this is that it would require strings that need to be localized | 14:34 |
Riddell | yes that would be better | 14:34 |
sitter | so nothing for vivid | 14:34 |
Riddell | well that's ok since k-n-h is now in kubuntu | 14:35 |
Riddell | oh no I wouldn't expect a backport | 14:35 |
sitter | Riddell: the hooks are weird xml files :P | 14:35 |
sitter | l10n would be handled through ubuntu somehow | 14:35 |
Riddell | why do hooks need user facing strings? | 14:35 |
Riddell | surely only for command line stuff | 14:35 |
sitter | the user needs to run them or at least authorize package installation | 14:36 |
sitter | dpkg triggers trigger while dpkg is running so we cannot automatically instally sni-qt:i386 at that point (plus that would be highly questionable behavior anyway) | 14:36 |
Riddell | hmm | 14:38 |
shadeslayer | does anyone remember why we disabled PAM in kwallet | 14:39 |
sitter | we didn't | 14:39 |
shadeslayer | or was it GPG | 14:39 |
sitter | gpg we disabled | 14:39 |
shadeslayer | ah ok | 14:39 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: pam in kwallet was never ported to kf5 | 14:40 |
sitter | pam kwallet was never released even.... | 14:40 |
shadeslayer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/1451749 | 14:40 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1451749 in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Wish: provide a way to run kde 4 with vivid" [Undecided,Won't fix] | 14:40 |
shadeslayer | erm | 14:40 |
shadeslayer | wrong one | 14:40 |
sitter | Riddell: you should pick it up in plasma-desktop xD | 14:40 |
shadeslayer | bug 1451865 | 14:40 |
ubottu | bug 1451865 in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Kwallet is no longer automatically unlocked on login" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1451865 | 14:40 |
sitter | Riddell: eh, plasma release scope | 14:40 |
sitter | shadeslayer: upstream | 14:40 |
shadeslayer | ur upstream | 14:41 |
shadeslayer | wait ... you are | 14:41 |
shadeslayer | :P | 14:41 |
sitter | not of pamkwallet I am not | 14:41 |
sitter | in fact pamkwallet has no upstream anymore I guess, so there's that | 14:41 |
sitter | that other bug though | 14:42 |
sitter | like half the stuff seems oddly odd | 14:42 |
sitter | - Some buttons in system settings do nothing (e.g. Online Accounts -> create -> Google). Why are those buttons there in first place? | 14:42 |
sitter | that's kaccounts, we had no kaccounts in vivid, had we? | 14:42 |
shadeslayer | not that I know of | 14:42 |
sitter | uh | 14:42 |
sitter | /home/me/Downloads/kubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso | 14:42 |
sitter | I have a release iso \o/ | 14:42 |
shadeslayer | good for you | 14:43 |
shadeslayer | I prefer to use up all of Canonical's bandwidth by Download ISO's over and over again | 14:43 |
shadeslayer | ;) | 14:43 |
shadeslayer | *downloading | 14:44 |
sitter | virtualbox killed my system | 14:46 |
sitter | that bastard | 14:46 |
sitter | time to purge it | 14:46 |
Riddell | Blizzz: is danimo on irc? | 14:46 |
sitter | oh oh ohoh | 14:46 |
shadeslayer | sitter: you should use VMWare | 14:46 |
shadeslayer | :P | 14:46 |
sitter | now hplip is busted | 14:46 |
sitter | wtf | 14:46 |
sitter | shadeslayer: kvm all the way | 14:47 |
Blizzz | Riddell: yes, his nick is danimo as well | 14:47 |
shadeslayer | pft | 14:47 |
Blizzz | Riddell: for instance on #owncloud-client-dev | 14:47 |
Riddell | Blizzz: there's another qt update I need to do so I guess I should find time for that | 14:47 |
Blizzz | Riddell: sounds like a plan | 14:48 |
sitter | hm | 14:48 |
sitter | error: option -s not recognized | 14:48 |
sitter | Exec=hp-systray -x | 14:48 |
sitter | now where did that -s come from Oo | 14:48 |
Riddell | --session | 14:49 |
Riddell | is added by ksmserver | 14:50 |
shadeslayer | drat sitter quit | 14:51 |
sitter | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/196649393/hplip_3.14.6-1ubuntu1_3.15.2-0ubuntu1.diff.gz | 14:53 |
sitter | -process-events-for-systray.patch | 14:53 |
sitter | yes well | 14:53 |
sitter | fuck all of this | 14:53 |
sitter | I am off | 14:53 |
Riddell | oh dear | 14:54 |
lordievader | Did he throw his keyboard out the window? | 14:55 |
shadeslayer | heh | 14:56 |
shadeslayer | no, just time to go home | 14:56 |
* shadeslayer will be leaving soon too | 14:56 | |
ovidiu-florin | hello sexy people | 15:08 |
* Riddell bats eyelids | 15:08 | |
Riddell | ovidiu-florin: any update from sysadmins on the server? | 15:08 |
ovidiu-florin | Riddell: canonical? | 15:09 |
ovidiu-florin | no | 15:09 |
Riddell | hmm, when should we give up on them? | 15:09 |
ovidiu-florin | I already did | 15:09 |
ovidiu-florin | I've talked to the main recommended hosting company by Wordpress | 15:09 |
ovidiu-florin | and I like their offer | 15:09 |
ovidiu-florin | Also they have a free hosting option for Non-profits | 15:10 |
ovidiu-florin | I was to talk with you about this after UOS | 15:10 |
ovidiu-florin | BlueHost is the company | 15:10 |
ovidiu-florin | Riddell: can we have a call and help me fill in some info about KDE for the presentation? | 15:16 |
Riddell | ovidiu-florin: not just now I'm afraid I'm busy on busy things and I need to go in an hour | 15:17 |
Riddell | I'm back about 3 hours later I guess | 15:17 |
ovidiu-florin | Riddell: let me know when you return | 15:17 |
ovidiu-florin | Riddell ahoneybun Sick_Rimmit are you around? | 15:57 |
Sick_Rimmit | ovidiu-florin: yES | 16:33 |
ovidiu-florin | should we Present 15.04 with or without backports? | 16:34 |
ovidiu-florin | I'm enclining thouwards with | 16:35 |
Sick_Rimmit | I think we should show it as it comes from the install image | 16:35 |
Sick_Rimmit | This sets user expectations correctly | 16:35 |
Sick_Rimmit | Better to under promise and over deliver ;-) | 16:36 |
Sick_Rimmit | I got to go home, now | 16:36 |
Sick_Rimmit | I'll see you tomorrow. | 16:36 |
Sick_Rimmit | I'll be here on IRC during the day | 16:36 |
Sick_Rimmit | ttfn | 16:36 |
ovidiu-florin | I'm enclining thouards with, because this presentation is about Plasma 5 and KF5, not that much about Kubuntu, so we should present the latest and gratest. | 16:42 |
ovidiu-florin | ahoneybun: who will present Plasma 5? you? | 16:43 |
ovidiu-florin | ahoneybun: have you prepared the notes for it? | 16:43 |
yofel | whee, wily is open | 18:10 |
BluesKaj | yofel, the repos ? | 18:20 |
ahoneybun | ovidiu-florin: the time is when I'm at work... I'm trying to get out early to be there | 18:33 |
Etriaph | G'day folks. | 18:34 |
ahoneybun | hey Etriaph! | 18:34 |
ahoneybun | holy crap 149 packages to update | 18:34 |
Etriaph | Yup | 18:34 |
* Etriaph is crossing his fingers | 18:35 | |
Etriaph | :D | 18:35 |
ahoneybun | XD | 18:35 |
ahoneybun | I trust Riddell, sgclark, yofel, sitter and the rest of the great team | 18:35 |
ahoneybun | I'll bbl | 18:36 |
Etriaph | Not crossing my fingers due to potential craziness; hoping Dolphin is a KF5 | 18:36 |
Etriaph | :D | 18:36 |
Etriaph | OK, quick reboot | 18:38 |
ahoneybun | back | 18:50 |
ahoneybun | around Etriaph? | 18:50 |
sick_rimmit | hi | 18:54 |
KDDA | how did it go ahoneybun? | 18:54 |
ahoneybun | KDDA: ? | 18:55 |
KDDA | I thought you went to install packages | 18:55 |
ahoneybun | oh yea it's fine, have not rebooted yet | 18:58 |
KDDA | is it 15.04 apps? | 19:00 |
ahoneybun | yea | 19:09 |
BluesKaj | all is well here after the upgrades , including the kernel | 19:19 |
Etriaph | Hi | 19:26 |
Etriaph | Sorry ahoneybun, lunchy-type things were going on | 19:27 |
ahoneybun | its all good | 19:27 |
Etriaph | What do you need? | 19:27 |
ahoneybun | I broke something on the jsfiddle | 19:28 |
Etriaph | OK, link 'er up | 19:30 |
ahoneybun | http://jsfiddle.net/guztetgf/1/ | 19:30 |
Etriaph | What are you trying to make work? | 19:31 |
ahoneybun | the prev and next links being moved | 19:32 |
Etriaph | So start with upper nav, where do you want that to go? | 19:32 |
Etriaph | Like that? | 19:34 |
Etriaph | .navigation{ width: 100%; } | 19:34 |
ahoneybun | sorry in a hangout I'll look now | 19:34 |
ahoneybun | I think your not on the same doc | 19:34 |
Etriaph | http://jsfiddle.net/guztetgf/2/ | 19:35 |
Etriaph | Both the top and bottom navigation are in a table, tables are only the width of their contents by default. | 19:35 |
ahoneybun | that is great! | 19:36 |
Etriaph | So if you set their width to 100% of their parent container, they consume the correct area you were expecting | 19:36 |
Etriaph | Anything else ya need? :D | 19:36 |
ahoneybun | Etriaph: check it http://imgur.com/B9eJd6P | 19:39 |
Etriaph | It's looking better now. | 19:40 |
Etriaph | :D | 19:40 |
ahoneybun | thanks :) | 19:40 |
ahoneybun | Riddell: ovidiu-florin valorie http://i.imgur.com/B9eJd6P.png | 19:40 |
Etriaph | ahoneybun: You should start thinking about line-height values now. | 19:42 |
ahoneybun | don't know what that is | 19:42 |
Etriaph | For <p> and <h*> elements. | 19:42 |
ahoneybun | Etriaph: there that wildcards in HTML? | 19:43 |
Etriaph | Look up the attribute line-height | 19:43 |
ahoneybun | like h1 - h2 - h3 = h* | 19:43 |
ahoneybun | http://www.w3schools.com/cssref/pr_dim_line-height.asp? | 19:43 |
Etriaph | It governs double-spacing, single-spacing, spacing at 1.5, for paragraphs, lists, headings | 19:43 |
Riddell | hola chicos | 19:44 |
Etriaph | It makes it easier to read when everything is clearly spaced is all. | 19:44 |
Riddell | ¿que tal? | 19:44 |
Etriaph | Riddell: Hi :D | 19:44 |
ahoneybun | what do you think Riddell? | 19:47 |
Etriaph | ahoneybun: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/CSS3 | 19:47 |
Etriaph | Better resource. | 19:47 |
Riddell | ahoneybun: of http://i.imgur.com/B9eJd6P.png ? | 19:48 |
ahoneybun | lots of things I don't know | 19:48 |
ahoneybun | yea | 19:48 |
Riddell | get rid of all those stupic TM and (R) signs, makes it hard to read :) | 19:48 |
Etriaph | ahoneybun: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/line-height | 19:49 |
ahoneybun | thats on the wiki so I'll have to take it off there and then you shoot out a new export | 19:49 |
Etriaph | Try doing a line-height: 1.5 on P elements and line-height: 1.2 on LI elements. | 19:50 |
ahoneybun | looks pretty good | 19:53 |
Etriaph | OK, that's about the ratio you want. | 19:55 |
ahoneybun | thanks Etriaph | 19:55 |
ovidiu-florin | Riddell: are you back? | 19:55 |
Etriaph | ahoneybun: If you tighten it up, reduce it by .4 on both | 19:55 |
ahoneybun | even better | 19:56 |
Etriaph | Then adjust as you desire :D | 19:56 |
ovidiu-florin | ahoneybun: so you have given up on readthedocs? | 19:57 |
ahoneybun | ovidiu-florin: I still have it | 19:57 |
ahoneybun | but valorie tells me there is exts for exporting to pdf/ebook in the current setup | 19:58 |
ahoneybun | plus readthedocs is not as easy for people to edit freely | 19:58 |
ahoneybun | and has a different markup to learn | 19:59 |
ahoneybun | I'll keep looking at it myself though | 19:59 |
ovidiu-florin | ahoneybun: have you finished your notes for the presentation? | 20:00 |
ahoneybun | finishing touchs for my end | 20:00 |
ovidiu-florin | Are you using a separate pad? I see no changes on that one | 20:00 |
Riddell | ovidiu-florin: briefly | 20:01 |
* ahoneybun always till the end | 20:01 | |
ahoneybun | I have a doc on my pc | 20:01 |
ovidiu-florin | ahoneybun: so are you going to present the Plasma 5 part??? | 20:02 |
ovidiu-florin | your name is only next to the widgets | 20:02 |
ahoneybun | que | 20:02 |
ovidiu-florin | or is rick going to do that? | 20:02 |
ahoneybun | what is that covering? | 20:02 |
ahoneybun | the move to Qt5, QML, | 20:02 |
ovidiu-florin | Plasma 5 features, the thmeme, Kwin | 20:02 |
ahoneybun | KF5 Frameworks | 20:02 |
ovidiu-florin | ahoneybun: I feel that we have a confusion here on who presents what | 20:04 |
ahoneybun | have no clue if rick is going that | 20:04 |
ahoneybun | I'll write something just in case | 20:04 |
ovidiu-florin | I've prepared to present about the KDE SC4 -> KF5 stuff | 20:05 |
ovidiu-florin | and I'm taking notes on the Apps I'm presenting | 20:05 |
ovidiu-florin | And the Conclusion, I think will be a chaos | 20:06 |
ovidiu-florin | or maybe rick will do that | 20:06 |
ahoneybun | I have Widgets, Krunner, Amarok, KDE Connect, System Settings, and Muon Discover | 20:06 |
ahoneybun | I think System Settings should be off as nothing is really really new | 20:07 |
ovidiu-florin | it is new | 20:08 |
ovidiu-florin | it's differen't organized | 20:08 |
ovidiu-florin | ahoneybun: I'll be using a virtual machine to present | 20:09 |
ahoneybun | oh | 20:09 |
ovidiu-florin | for several reasons: | 20:09 |
ahoneybun | I'm on the latest stuff | 20:09 |
ovidiu-florin | 1. I cahn share only that window and have many other things opened at the same time and people won't see my notes | 20:10 |
ovidiu-florin | 2. It's a stock install, so people will see the same thing when installing Kubuntu | 20:10 |
ovidiu-florin | 3. People don't see my private stuff, links, bookmarks | 20:11 |
ahoneybun | link me to the pad please ovidiu-florin | 20:13 |
ovidiu-florin | http://pad.ubuntu.com/plasma5-UOS-2015 | 20:13 |
ahoneybun | omg server | 20:14 |
ovidiu-florin | what? | 20:15 |
ahoneybun | OpenID Authentication Required | 20:15 |
ahoneybun | will not let me login, trying again | 20:15 |
ahoneybun | cannot login | 20:16 |
ahoneybun | got it | 20:16 |
ahoneybun | nvm | 20:17 |
Etriaph | Ya, I can't either. | 20:18 |
* ahoneybun has a other monitor to fix ovidiu-florin's issue 1 | 20:18 | |
ahoneybun | bbl | 20:18 |
Etriaph | What credentials are required for openid authentication with that pad? | 20:21 |
ovidiu-florin | Launchpad account | 20:22 |
ovidiu-florin | it goes thourgh some weird Ubuntu authentication system | 20:22 |
Etriaph | I have, and am logged in | 20:22 |
Etriaph | But I get the message "OpenID Authentication Required" | 20:23 |
ovidiu-florin | then you should be able to access the pad | 20:23 |
yofel | Etriaph: there should be a continue button that sends to to the SSO login | 20:24 |
yofel | *sends you | 20:24 |
vipw | check if you have ubuntu one account, it will not work | 20:24 |
vipw | you've to log in via launchpad account | 20:25 |
Etriaph | yofel: I am logged in on launchpad, what I see is https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1422687/open_id.png | 20:26 |
Etriaph | One of those tabs will show you my profile with my name on LP | 20:26 |
Etriaph | https://launchpad.net/~etriaph | 20:26 |
yofel | hm, I get an auto-redirect to https://login.ubuntu.com/</snip key>/+decide | 20:27 |
yofel | the pad *might* be members-only | 20:27 |
Etriaph | Ah, true. | 20:27 |
yofel | Etriaph: although, can you join https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-etherpad ? | 20:29 |
Etriaph | Yup | 20:29 |
soee | Riddell: when KF 5.9 will be released ? | 20:29 |
Etriaph | yofel: To confirm, yes I can see that location. | 20:31 |
yofel | Etriaph: can you see the pad now? | 20:33 |
Riddell | soee: last month | 20:33 |
soee | Riddell: wrr, *5.10 | 20:34 |
yofel | wasn't frameworks on a monthly scheudule? | 20:35 |
Riddell | soee: on thursday, packagers welcome | 20:35 |
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Etriaph | No yofel | 20:40 |
yofel | hm. Might be members after all then | 20:40 |
Etriaph | It's all good yofel. | 20:40 |
ovidiu-florin | Riddell: please take a look at the KDE stuff at the beginning of http://pad.ubuntu.com/plasma5-UOS-2015, let me know if something is wrong there, or anything that needs to be added | 20:45 |
Riddell | ovidiu-florin: "how KF5 came to existance" is a bit confused | 20:50 |
Riddell | KF5 is the frameworks | 20:50 |
Riddell | KDE Frameworks 5 | 20:50 |
Riddell | Plasma and Applications are separate | 20:51 |
ovidiu-florin | Riddell: i DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE STATUS OF MEDIACENTER | 20:52 |
ovidiu-florin | sorry for the caps | 20:52 |
Riddell | that's because it's only been added in plasma 5.3 | 20:53 |
Riddell | and it doesn't work too well cos gstreamer 0.10 is old and broken | 20:53 |
ovidiu-florin | so in 5.3 we have another view like the netbook version in 4? but this time it's Media center? | 20:53 |
Riddell | Tile windows yep | 20:55 |
Riddell | yep, another view, works on top of plasma desktop or as a standalone for a plug-into-tv setup | 20:55 |
Riddell | Tile windows is not in Plasma 5.3 sorry | 20:55 |
ovidiu-florin | Riddell: thank you for your feedback | 20:58 |
ovidiu-florin | I'm off to bed | 20:58 |
ovidiu-florin | feel free to add your sugestions :D | 20:58 |
* ovidiu-florin ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz................... | 20:58 | |
Etriaph | Anyone here played with QtWebKit 3.0? | 21:17 |
Riddell | it exists? | 21:17 |
Riddell | surely it's all qtwebengine now | 21:18 |
Etriaph | I'm trying to use it, and it doesn't behave as I would expect. | 21:18 |
Etriaph | Oh, I didn't know about WebEngineView | 21:20 |
Riddell | that's the replacement | 21:21 |
Etriaph | How do I get the lib? | 21:21 |
Etriaph | QtCreator knows nothing about it. | 21:21 |
Etriaph | brb | 21:24 |
=== aaron__ is now known as ahoneybun | ||
ahoneybun | ovidiu-florin: seeing that we are last on the slot I might not have to leave work early | 21:30 |
ahoneybun | Riddell: btw the those special TM and R symbols are not on the userbase pages, the export must be putting them there | 22:05 |
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