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gunndawghow come every time I open update manager and do More > Advanced > Configure Software Sources all it does it proceede to "check for updates" wont open the window to configure sources00:03
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GunnDawgis there a way to make windows transparent? similar to the way you can make the konsole transparent?02:15
GunnDawgusing 14.04 btw02:17
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est31hi there, plasma-desktop aquiring too much system resources, any ideas to help?02:56
est31 http://pasteboard.co/7Qkql9j.png02:57
hrothmundidk @est31, but those are some serious periodic components. haha03:06
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hrothmundrunning any games/ video?03:08
est31nope03:08
est31the issue is it stays that way hrothmund until I log out and back in again03:09
est31when I "freshly" log in, everything is fine again03:09
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hrothmunddoes kwin --replace &03:09
hrothmundhve the same effect03:09
est31nope kwin --replace & didn't resolve03:10
hrothmundhmm03:11
hrothmundonly thought i have is graphics card drivers, try both proprietary and open-source if availiable03:12
est31:/03:12
est31two additional things: during plasma desktop being 100% CPU, the taskbar becomes unresponsive03:13
est312. when I maximize/minimize a window very often, it provocates more spikes03:14
hrothmundany widgets you recently installed  on the taskbar?03:14
est31no03:14
est31no reall custom widgets at all03:14
hrothmundthat makes sense, both of those things are managed by KDE, which is what plasma-desktop is (part of)03:15
est31clock "show desktop" a launcher for konsole...03:15
est31alt tab still works though03:15
hrothmundwhat graphics card do you have?03:15
est31Radeon HD 425003:16
est31driver=radeon03:18
hrothmundim not really an expert, but from what i can see, these bugs are not uncommon with KDE... i know thats not really helpful.. haha03:20
est31:/ thanks though03:20
hrothmundsure, ill let yo know if i come across a solution03:21
hrothmundit could be that the driver isnt letting your GPU draw anything, putting all the load on your CPU, you could try the open-source replacement (install instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver) or if thats the driver you are using, then just go inrto additional drivers and activate the proprietary version03:25
est31I'll give that a try...03:33
est31any way to get plasma-desktop do more logging?03:33
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Etriaphoops, plasma got blowed up04:41
hyper_chEtriaph: ?04:43
Etriaphhyper_ch: Oh, it was my fault, I had to kill the session.04:44
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GunnDawgis there a way to make windows transparent? similar to the way you can make the konsole transparent? (I'm using 14.04)05:10
EtriaphGunnDawg: You can set title bar actions that can make them translucent, I have mine set for scrollwheel on titlebar.05:13
EtriaphGunnDawg: System Settings -> Window Behavior: Titlebar Actions05:14
EtriaphChange Wheel Event to Opacity05:14
GunnDawgI'll take a look. thanks05:14
hrothmundokay has anyone had this issue: after about 30 mins- hour of use, my lappy stops being able to see any wireless networks...relogging seems to fix...for another 30 mins. my wireless card is a Broadcom if that helps.05:16
hyper_chhrothmund: file a bug report05:20
hrothmundyeah, will do, the only people who seem to talk about this specific issue are arch users and they speak a whole other langueage. haha05:21
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Fleckhttps://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?67535-File-dialogs-aren-t-working-quot-URL-cannot-be-listed-trash-quot <<<< same problem here, help! Can't reinstall, need solution! :D08:34
lordievaderGood morning.08:35
Fleckmorning!08:36
luca__Hello! Anyone who noticed kubuntu 15.04 is confusing headphones with speakers?08:36
tongchia...08:57
aruncehello, anyone here did the last backport updates? Any problems with the system tray and telepathy?09:01
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BluesKajHiyas all11:22
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mflowHas anyone here used a laptop with two monitors? I'm interested in the setup needed to make that work. Currently only one monitor works, if I try to add the 2nd it says 'MetaMode 1 of Screen 0 has more than 2 active display devices'11:53
lordievadermflow: What is the output of xrandr?11:56
mflowlordievader: https://paste.kde.org/pssszyjku/phn5vw/raw11:58
lordievadermflow:  You want a triple screen setup?11:59
mflowlordievader: yes, 1) VGA monitor 2) Laptop 3) HDMI monitor11:59
lordievaderRight, I got a similar setup.11:59
lordievaderWhat happens when you enable two monitors?12:00
Avihay_workmflow, last post might interest you : http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/hardware-peripherals/194281-looking-triple-monitor-solution-vga-hdmi-stock-laptop-screen.html12:00
mflowlordievader: the error above is raised by Nvidia X Server Settings12:01
mflowlordievader: What did you do to make it work? Custom xorg.conf?12:01
lordievaderYes and no. I use the opensource radeon driver. Kscreen works fine with it.12:01
lordievaderI do have an xorg.conf simply to make lightdm more pleasing.12:01
mflowlordievader: In my case it turns off one of the monitors and gives that error12:01
mflowbut I'm using the Nvidia driver12:02
mflowMaybe the problem is with it12:02
lordievadermflow: Do you configure them through the nvidia x config or through kscreen?12:02
mflowAvihay_work: thanks, I'll have a look12:02
mflowlordievader: I've tried both ways; I'll give it a shot again, with a clean config12:03
mflowAvihay_work: yeah, that's probably it, my card/laptop is from 200812:07
mflowbut I'm gonna try everything I can before settling on the fact that the Nvidia card doesn't support more than 2 monitors, as the xrandr says  it support a max resolution of maximum 8192 x 8192 and my current resolution is 3840 x 120012:08
mflowmaybe with the aid of some kind of hardware device also12:08
lordievadermflow: With the closed source driver my setup didn't support the full resolution either. Though the max resolution was more than enough...12:09
MoonUnit`remembered this old story, nvidia should work with up to 3 monitors even though it can handle more.12:19
MoonUnit`http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-linux-basemosaic-ubuntu-parity,24519.html12:19
luca__Hello! Anyone who noticed kubuntu 15.04 is confusing headphones with speakers?12:23
mflowMoonUnit`: interesting12:27
mflowMoonUnit`: but the "Support for up to four separate displays -- three of them in 3D -- off a single card for a massive 3D gaming experience " was a marketing feature for Kepler GPU Architecture when they sold the GPUs back in 2012, as per https://web.archive.org/web/20140906201224/http://nvidianews.nvidia.com/News/NVIDIA-Launches-First-GeForce-GPUs-Based-on-Next-Generation-Kepler-Architecture-79b.aspx12:29
mflowluca__: In what sense is K15.04 confusing headphones with speakers? Do you mean inside the KDE Mixer? Or you don't have sound when you start your machine with your headphones unplugged?12:33
luca__mflow: yes, in kmix it seems I get sound on the speakers only when I set headphones. And when I set speakers... I don't get audio on the headphones anyway...12:36
luca__mflow: no wait, sorry, by setting headphones I get audio on both.12:39
mflowluca__: haven't experienced that myself, will check it out as soon as I upgrade the machine I'm currently on to Kubuntu 15.04, which will be later today12:41
natacusI am after using the live usb creaor ing in kubuntu 14.04 to make a stick for installing 15.04 when i try to boot from it it says something like "cmb r034 error cannt boot, boot: >.." well someting like that :)12:42
Fleckhttps://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?67535-File-dialogs-aren-t-working-quot-URL-cannot-be-listed-trash-quot <<<< same problem here, help! Can't reinstall, need solution! :D12:42
natacusI am after using the live usb creaor ing in kubuntu 14.04 to make a stick for installing 15.04 when i try to boot from it it says something like "cmb r034 error cannt boot, boot: >.." well someting like that :)12:53
Deetsteri know this is a pretty simple thing, but i can not for the life of me remember how to exicute a java application from a .jar file :/12:55
mflowDeetster: java -jar filename.jar12:57
Deetsterthanks12:57
mflowDeetster: in the simplest case, the jar might need additional things in the JVM classpath to be able to run or you might need to pass it some additional command line arguments12:58
Deetstermflow: is it possible to create a shortcut to it?12:58
mflowDeetster: yes, but it only makes sense if the Java app has a GUI; you can try defining a shortcut as: java -jar /absolute/path/to/the/jar/filename.jar12:59
Deetsterit does have a gui, tightvnc java viewer13:00
Deetsterand thanks for the help13:00
z4sk4hi all13:55
z4sk4i am trying install plasma 5.2 on kubuntu 14.04 but is imposible for me13:55
z4sk4the bsckports that i try install for that dont response...13:55
z4sk4i must have 15.04? because on 15.05 drivers of wifi dosnt work13:55
lordievaderz4sk4: Plasma5 on Trusty ain't supported.13:59
lordievaderz4sk4: What wifi chip do you have?14:00
z4sk4thanks lordievader, so what happend then with drivers for wifi on kubuntu 15.04? we must whait? beccause on 14.04 i dont need install backports (compact-wirelles)14:00
z4sk4lordievader: RTL14:00
z4sk4there are some package on 15.04 for all wifis? because i work in auditoria and i will like use kubuntu 15.0414:01
hateballIt's entirely possible you're using modules that were removed from staging in later kernels14:01
hateballrealtek arent exactly known for making things that deserve to end up in any sort of stable kernel14:01
MoonUnit`please please please kscreen, if a game breaks my multiscreen settings don't save them without asking me if that's ok.14:02
wolftuneMy 14.04.2 system had been recognizing my power management settings at some point in the past, but now it doesn't. It gets to a certain power and doesn't suspend when expected or change screen brightness or anything…14:04
wolftunehelp?14:04
z4sk4hateball: isnt some package for install all wifis in kubuntu 15.04? because on 14.04 i dont need install nothing (except backports for some inyects of chipsets)14:05
lordievaderz4sk4: Depends on the chipset.14:07
hateballz4sk4: It's either in the kernel directly, or in the package for restricted modules. The GUI driver installer should show you14:07
hateballBut as I said, it may have been removed and you need backports for a version that works14:08
hateballz4sk4: What's the exact chipset you're using?14:08
lordievaderlspci |grep Networking14:08
z4sk4hateball: its the realtek of alfa networking (i dont know sure now)14:09
z4sk4but the problem on kubuntu 15.04 its that when i install backports for monitoring i must stop network-manager14:09
z4sk4and on 14.04 didnt happent, so i lise the ether net conexión for monitoring wirelles :S14:10
z4sk4lose*14:10
z4sk4and i think its because i havent got the normal driver... maybe its other think14:10
z4sk4but the realtek its very old, yeah14:11
lordievaderAh, it could be that support is dropped.14:12
z4sk4lordievader: mmmm ok... but the problem for stop network-manager to monitoring? i dont wanna install wicd...14:12
lordievaderWhat? I do not understand the question.14:13
hateballz4sk4: If you run "lspci|grep -i network" what does it return ?14:14
z4sk4lordievader: my real problem on kubuntu 15.04 its that i must stop network.manager demon to monitoring (with mon0)... and on 14.04 i dont need do that14:14
z4sk4hateball:  i going to install again 15.04 in the other machine and i will tell you14:14
lordievaderMon0? That is not an interface that is enabled by default.14:14
z4sk4lordievader: yeah, i run airmon-ng to "activate" the monitoring interface, but this interface dosnt work if i dont stop network-manager, that its the strain problem14:15
z4sk4strange* sorry for my bad english14:16
lordievaderz4sk4: Set network manger to not manage that interface.14:16
z4sk4lordievader: ok, give me 15 or 20 min to install again 15.04 in the other machine14:17
lordievaderz4sk4: http://stackoverflow.com/a/1518007714:19
z4sk4lordievader: that link its very interesting! i will try it... but maybe i wanna use wirelles for conenct and other times to monitoring... i will see all the options to try fix it, thanks14:23
qua-nonhey guys14:23
lordievadero/14:23
qua-nonvideos play at double speed and have no sound kubuntun 14.0514:23
qua-nontried rm -r ~/.config/pulse; pulseaudio -k didn't help14:25
lordievaderqua-non: What is the output of 'lspci -k|grep -A2 Audio'?14:27
lordievader!paste | qua-non14:27
ubottuqua-non: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.14:27
qua-nonhttp://paste.opensuse.org/3413376914:28
qua-nonlordievader, ^14:28
lordievaderqua-non: Do things play at normal speed when you use aplay (can only play wav files)14:28
qua-nondownloading a wav sample to check14:29
qua-nongot no audio with aplay either14:30
lordievaderNo audio at all?14:31
qua-nonyup14:31
qua-nonI am in virtualbox14:31
qua-nonaudio plays outside14:31
lordievaderqua-non: Ah.14:31
qua-noneverything was working this morning before todays update14:31
lordievaderqua-non: Is Kubuntu the host or the guest?14:31
qua-nonkubuntu guest on osx host14:32
lordievaderHmm, I have no experience with OSX hosts. Check the virtualbox audio settings and in the guest alsamixer.14:32
qua-nonI see there are updates , lemme install and reboot to see if it heps14:32
qua-nonlordievader, everything is the same from host settings, where it was working in the morning but isn't now, I am double checking settings to be sure though14:33
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qua-nonlordievader, updating and rebooting didn't help14:44
lordievaderqua-non: Could you give me the update history of today?14:44
qua-nondunno how?14:45
qua-nondoes apt-get have a command for this?14:45
lordievaderqua-non: See /var/log/apt/history.log14:45
qua-nonok, one moment14:46
qua-nonhttp://paste.opensuse.org/8440291114:47
geniiBetter yet, pastebin the entire file14:47
geniiHm14:47
lordievaderqua-non: Was it broken before you installed pavucontrol?14:50
qua-nonyes14:50
lordievaderHmm, in the update before that ther is nothing that has to do with audio.14:51
qua-nonI have the same issue with upstart or systemd choosen at startup, just fyi14:51
goodtimeanyone ever try bluefish editor here befor?14:52
goodtimetrying to build my first website14:52
ejaygoodtime: why bluefish? komodo is great with less messy UI or atom (I'm using this right now) for minimum UI and maximum possibilities.14:54
lordievaderKdevelop :D14:54
kibouKate14:54
arunceemacs14:54
qua-nonobligatory vim14:54
ejaywindows notepad14:54
goodtimewell like i said it is my first time doing this14:55
lordievaderKdevelop was actually serious, it has a rather nice php plugin.14:55
goodtimeso i saw bluefish14:55
goodtimeidk14:55
goodtimety lordievader14:55
goodtimeill install it14:55
ejaygoodtime: you dont want to start with kdevelop :P14:56
goodtimeok14:56
goodtimewhy would that be?14:56
ejaygoodtime: try komodo ide. its free.14:56
ejaygoodtime: sorry, komodo edit14:57
goodtimeoic you think because it is my first time .........14:57
goodtimeill try all of them14:57
goodtimei need to do this14:57
goodtimeits for my boss14:57
ejaygoodtime: yeah, sure. good idea14:57
goodtimewe need more work14:57
goodtimeso im givin it a shot14:58
goodtimeyeah i went back to work14:58
goodtimeno more free ride for this kid14:58
ejaygoodtime: tbh, you can make any website in any text editor with syntax highlighting14:59
goodtimeok14:59
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qua-nonlordievader, fyi issue solved by removing sound adapter ->boot, shutdown-> add adapter-> boot15:39
lordievaderqua-non: Pff, strange stuff.15:53
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64MACRWVXHello16:40
Fleckhttps://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?67535-File-dialogs-aren-t-working-quot-URL-cannot-be-listed-trash-quot <<<< same problem here, help! Can't reinstall, need solution! :D16:40
64MACRWVXafter upgrade on kubuntu 15.04 my dual monitor stops working16:41
64MACRWVXonly after turn off cable my laptop works correctly on new kubuntu16:42
64MACRWVXand only laptop monitor works16:42
64MACRWVXif both enabled i see very weird splashes an regions are located incorrectly16:43
64MACRWVXi use fglrx proprietary driver16:44
64MACRWVXwhat the first i need to do/16:44
64MACRWVX?16:44
mflow64MACRWVX: Did you overwrite the /etc/X11/xorg.conf config  at upgrade time ?17:02
mflow64MACRWVX: maybe you need to setup the dual monitor setup again using the AMD graphics tool/thingy17:02
64MACRWVXmannually no17:02
mflowcheck the /etc/X11 directory17:03
mflowmaybe it overwrote the xorg.conf file BUT it did a backup17:03
64MACRWVXi found amd driver working correctly on one monitor17:03
64MACRWVXok, tnx17:03
mflowyou can just copy the backup over the xorg.conf file and it should work17:03
64MACRWVXxorg.conf.dist-upgrade-20150505190917:06
64MACRWVXi think this one17:06
64MACRWVX?17:06
mflowcould be, check its contents17:10
mflowand compare with the existing xorg.conf17:10
mflowIt should have 2 Monitor sections in it17:10
est31Hi there having issues with plasma-desktop http://pasteboard.co/7Qkql9j.png17:20
est31any ideas?17:20
Fleckhad something similar when using pulseaudio17:21
EvilRoeyo/ BluesKaj17:33
EvilRoeyvalorie:  hey!!17:33
EvilRoeyvalorie:  *hug*, first and foremost;17:33
EvilRoeyvalorie:  second, you mentioned that settings from ~/.kde/share/config have migrated to ~/.config and ~/.local.  So I tried getting out of X, copying the files to ~/.config and restarting X, only to find that the configurations didn't take hold...17:34
EvilRoeyBluesKaj:  any ideas?17:34
EvilRoey(this is after moving from Plasma 4 -> Plama 5.3)17:34
ik_helo17:36
EvilRoeyo.17:36
EvilRoey* o/17:36
ik_i have a problem with knotes17:37
mflowik_: that is?17:39
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natacusanyone been using the chat client in kubutu 15.04?18:28
MoonUnit`i tried it but went back to pidgin18:32
EtriaphG'day folks.18:34
MoonUnit`so far since this mornings kf5 updates plasmashell has kept to low cpu.18:38
hyper_chyou give your cpus some time off? oO18:43
Fleck;p18:43
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LucasHCIs there a specific language in use? I'm sorry for this question, but this is my first use of IRC.19:23
keithzg_In this channel, English.19:24
LucasHCThank you19:24
keithzg_No problem.19:24
bprompt!en | LucasHC19:25
ubottuLucasHC: Certain Ubuntu IRC channels are English only.  For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList19:25
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muh2000hi all19:35
muh2000i am running 15.04 and have an issue with dual monitor setup. when the 2nd one is switched off, my desktop can be moved towards the direction of the 2nd one.  - how to make the 1st stick where it is and omit the other part ?!?19:37
Etriaphmuh2000: Either the monitor is attached or it's not.19:37
EtriaphSwitching it off doesn't make that part of the desktop appear as long as it's still connected to the PC.19:38
Etriaphs/appear/disappear19:38
muh2000Etriaph: the 2nd monitor is attached but switched off. only used for HDMI sound (is actually a amplifier....)19:38
muh2000Etriaph: yeah but the desktop moving part is new....19:38
Etriaphmuh2000: If you have two monitors attached to the PC, and you turn one off, you still have that *entire* desktop space.  Turning off the 2nd monitor will not change your desktop dimensions, you'd have to disconnect it each time.19:41
muh2000Etriaph: i got it already but still i dont want the desktop slide to the space where the 2nd monitor is supposed to be.  14.10 didnt do that19:42
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mflowmuh2000: disable the 2nd monitor in kscreen when its turned off20:04
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p0lym0rf1chi all, does anyone know how to get the kde plasma widget list to refresh?20:20
p0lym0rf1cI installed some new widgets through muon discover, but they aren't showing up in my widget list20:21
muh2000mflow: when it is turned off, i cannot disable it.20:21
p0lym0rf1cbut do show up if I use "plasmapkg -la'20:21
spamerisp0lym0rf1c i have same problem :)20:23
spamerisso you are not alone20:23
p0lym0rf1cspameris: that's good to know... I think :)20:24
Fleckcha Andri20:25
spamerisHi Fleck20:28
Fleckwell, I can't even install widgets :D20:30
FleckI have a problem with kio_file I guess, dunno whats wrong with it20:31
soeep0lym0rf1c: maybe they are not compatible ? what kubuntu version are you running ?20:31
p0lym0rf1csoee: 15.0420:35
soeep0lym0rf1c: yeah they need to be ported to kf5 i think etc.20:36
p0lym0rf1cdo you know if there is anywhere I can check to see if that's the prob?20:37
p0lym0rf1cwould have expect it to throw a log message20:38
p0lym0rf1cmay go install some plasma debug stuff20:38
p0lym0rf1cwell, actually, would you expect plasoidviewer to fail if that were the case?20:39
soeep0lym0rf1c: what widgets are we talking about ?20:40
p0lym0rf1cI have tried, cwp, yahoo weather, and quickview20:43
MoonUnit`need to install qml-module-qtquick-xmllistmodel to get yahoo weather to work.20:46
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p0lym0rf1cMoonUnit`: yep, already fixed that :)20:52
p0lym0rf1cit wasn't actually yahoo weather that i installed, that was already there20:53
p0lym0rf1cit was yawp20:53
acz32how is the state of kubuntu on laptops with touchscreen? is unity still the best DE for those?21:23
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shinkaI haven't been on KDE for a while, I just booted to a USB key with Kubuntu 15.04, and I'm not sure how to connect to my wifi network. There's the network editor, but where I can see the networks automatically detected by Kubuntu? (Ubuntu 15.04 automatically detected many wifi networks on the same laptop, so Kubuntu should also be able to see them).21:52
RoeyHI22:00
Roeywakawaka22:00
Roey:)22:00
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id_good evening23:45
DerreckHowdy.23:45
danielle441hey guys I was having a weird issue with kmail where it wouldnt use the gpg agent to ask for my password for an encrypted email and just kept saying "incorrect password". I made some minor changes to the gpg conf file then tried to kill -9 the agent. suddenly I got logged out and then I couldnt log back in again at all. just kept dumping me back at the login screen. im on a second account now, looks like I'm locked out of my regular one until I can23:46
danielle441figure this out. Any idea whats gone wrong?23:46
id_can any one here tell if using the instruntions in ubuntu site to create a live cd i can use a iso from kubuntu/zorinos or other ubuntu deriv23:47
danielle441I mean the shell logins are still fine just somethings gone wrong with the agent I guess?23:48
danielle441so this is what I did: I removed an old, invalid .gnupg/gpg-agent.conf (from an old, none linux computer), symlinked ~/.gnupg/gpg-agent-<mycomputer> to ~/.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf, and added the line "pinentry-program /usr/bin/pinentry-gtk". and then I killed the agent. why would that log me out and stop me from logging back in again?23:51

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