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EtriaphHas anyone performed a successful build of QtWebEngine by any chance?00:07
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ovidiu-florinI made this: https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=sagpcrrqt6rbjff1bncam36in4%40group.calendar.google.com07:11
ovidiu-florincan we use it?07:11
shadeslayer10 PM?!07:13
seaLnehas anyone else noticed muon update notification getting the number of updates wrong? currently for me it thinks there are 30 with 9 security. but both muon update manager and apt think there are only 8? this has been happening for a wee while but it now looks consistantly wrong instead of just confused07:25
shadeslayerlet me check, though I'm on utopic07:27
sitterthere are plenty of things wrong with how updates are implemented07:27
shadeslayer275 updates with 14 security upgrades07:28
sitteramong them the fact that the update widget can get the count wrong, because it asks another tool for the update count07:28
shadeslayer:P07:28
shadeslayercount seems wrong yes07:29
shadeslayerapt-get says 253 upgraded, 5 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.07:29
sittershadeslayer: /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check07:30
shadeslayer247;14%                                                                                                                                                                                    07:30
sitterlol07:30
shadeslayeroff by one?07:30
sitterwell, at least the notification and /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check should add up07:31
sitterthe fact that they too do not just makes this more ridiculous07:31
seaLnei had updated and that does now correctly say 0;0% 07:32
shadeslayermm ... this makes no sense07:32
shadeslayeranyway07:32
sitterseaLne: best file a bug on bugs.kde I suppose07:33
seaLnewhat is it against?07:35
seaLnemuon?07:36
sitterseaLne: yes07:36
seaLnek07:36
seaLnehttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34728407:45
ubottuKDE bug 347284 in notifier "update notifier gets available updates count wrong" [Normal,Unconfirmed]07:45
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Riddellwell that'll be my server broken08:10
Riddellhttp://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22506/gcc-5-update-for-1510/ wibble "GCC 5 introduces an new libstdc++ ABI which makes it difficult to combine code built with the new and the old ABI"08:44
Riddellhaven't had that for years08:45
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soeecan someone check if RSIbreak notification work for him in 15.04 ?08:51
lordievaderGood morning.08:51
BlizzzekFYI, it seems there is something at odds with kde-l10n-ru on update: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/locale/ru/LC_SCRIPTS/ki18n5/ki18n5.js', which is also in package libkf5i18n-data 5.9.0-0ubuntu108:58
RiddellBlizzzek: didn't know you spoke russian?08:59
Riddellwhat version of  kde-l10n-ru ?08:59
Riddellit's https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34327709:00
ubottuKDE bug 343277 in sr "KDE Serbian 14.12.1 contains conflicting files" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]09:00
BlizzzekRiddell: learning :)09:00
BlizzzekRiddell: 4:15.04.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa409:00
Riddellhmm I thought I'd not copied that one over but maybe it slipped in09:00
BlizzzekRiddell:  was pulled in from http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/09:01
Riddellyou'll need to dpkg --install  it I'm afraid09:04
RiddellBlizzzek: I deleted it now09:05
Riddell15.04.1 due tomorrow to fix it09:06
BlizzzekRiddell: i installed it, no prob for me. Thinking about others who might not have a clue, so i wanted to pass it on. 09:07
Riddellyep, thanks for letting me know09:07
Blizzzekmy pleasure09:15
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BluesKajHi folks11:25
sgclarkmorning11:49
lordievadero/11:49
soeeis it normal that plasmashell uses ~ 25% cpu ?11:49
kfunknope12:00
kfunksoee: check if you have a busy indicator running somewhere12:00
kfunklike a wheather applet not finding a station or something12:01
soeekfunk: nah im nut using usch widgets :) just analog clock12:04
* yofel removed the ktp icon because that usually stays in busy state12:11
soeehmm need to reboot, panel freezed after gdb check12:16
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seaLnesoee: after discovering that rsibreak wasn't running and starting it i get notifications13:17
soeeseaLne: out of the box ?13:17
seaLnevivid with backports13:20
soeeit seems like it has no by default marked notifications to inform about break start13:23
seaLnei got one in the top left of the screen13:23
BluesKajsoee, trying Wily ? , there are some packahes in the repos :-)13:29
BluesKajerr packages that is13:29
soeeBluesKaj: what is Wily ?13:30
soeeah teh next version codename13:30
BluesKajsed'd the sources.list 13:30
soeeBluesKaj: it will tak esome time nah till all required packages get13:31
BluesKajI have the other 15.04 install for fallback so I'm trying 15.10, such as it is13:32
soeei have only my laptop :D13:34
BluesKajhad to change the hostname and /etc/hosts settings to make it look "real "  :-)13:34
BluesKajyeah, my laptop remains on 15.04 and will stay that way for quite some time 13:35
DarkwingThere a way to change the name of the drive for decryption on boot up? 14:48
DarkwingIts purely a... Polished look thing. 14:49
DarkwingThis is what it looks like... https://www.dropbox.com/s/nqfduvc3w6nts5d/IMG_20150506_104545.jpg?dl=014:55
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sgclarkRiddell: can you poke me a few before meeting? that is today right?15:11
Riddellsgclark: yes it's today, will do15:23
sgclarktyvm15:24
Riddellsgclark: it's in 3.5 hours15:25
sgclarkokies. I have not had much sleep in many days so I will not go live, but will be present.15:25
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Riddellovidiu-florin: you prepared for your presentation?15:59
Riddellmparillo: how about a social media bomb with the URLs to the presentation and meetings?15:59
ovidiu-florinalmost16:00
ovidiu-florinlast checks on my virtual machine16:00
Riddellhttp://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22517/plasma-5-demo/  in 2 hours and  http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22508/kubuntu-kickoff/  in 3 hours16:00
ovidiu-florinRiddell: there's a kde office meeting in #kde-ev16:01
ovidiu-florinin one hour16:01
Riddellovidiu-florin: ok, what's that?16:01
ovidiu-florinRiddell: http://blog.lydiapintscher.de/2015/05/01/evolving-kde-office-hour/16:02
ovidiu-florinahoneybun is stil not here16:19
ovidiu-florinrick isn't eighter16:19
Riddellovidiu-florin: do you know how to start a hangout for a session?16:21
ovidiu-florinyes16:21
ovidiu-florinand I'd like to start it16:21
ovidiu-florinwait16:21
ovidiu-florinI know how do do a hangouts on air16:21
Riddellovidiu-florin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS/Sessions16:21
ovidiu-florinbut how to make it be in the session, that I don't know16:21
Riddellyes it's a hangout on air16:21
Riddellovidiu-florin: do you have an Edit Hangout Details button on http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22517/plasma-5-demo/ ?16:22
ovidiu-florinno16:24
ovidiu-florinI think Aaron has that16:24
ovidiu-florinhe registered the event16:24
Riddellovidiu-florin: I do too so I can add the url if you start a hangout16:27
ovidiu-florinRiddell: I gave the links to nicholas to update16:35
Riddellok16:35
ovidiu-florinRiddell: care to join the hangout so we can do some testing?16:42
Riddellovidiu-florin: URL?16:47
mparilloRiddell: Sorry that whole work thing. Looks like somebody beat me to twitter. Whoever did, thanks.16:54
Riddellmparillo: oh aye I got on it16:56
ovidiu-florinRiddell: you got interupted17:08
ovidiu-florinkubotu: ping17:08
kubotupong17:08
ovidiu-florinso I'm ok17:08
Riddellit's my end17:17
Riddellhopefully that's it sorted17:17
EtriaphG'day folks.17:19
Riddell25 mins to Plasma 5 demo! http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22517/plasma-5-demo/17:34
* Etriaph walks dogs &17:39
ovidiu-florinkubotu: ping17:39
kubotupong17:39
geniiI'm so torn. Canada vs Sweden, or Plasma5 demo. Choices, choices....17:40
ovidiu-florinthe hangout just died on me17:40
ovidiu-florinRiddell: ^17:40
ovidiu-florinis it still on?17:40
Riddellit died on me too17:40
ovidiu-florindamn17:40
ovidiu-florinI'll make a new one17:40
ovidiu-florinare you ready to update the links?17:40
Riddellsure17:43
ovidiu-florinRiddell: ^^^17:43
Riddellovidiu-florin: the old one works17:44
ovidiu-florinreally?17:44
ovidiu-florinshould I switch?17:44
ovidiu-florindo17:44
ovidiu-florinupdate the links please17:44
Riddell"Waiting for people to join this video call..."17:44
ovidiu-florinI've published this new one on Google+17:44
ovidiu-florinhello Sick_Rimmit17:45
Sick_Rimmitovidiu-florin: 17:45
Sick_RimmithI17:45
ovidiu-florinI've sent you the link17:45
RiddellSick_Rimmit!17:46
Riddellanyone got a phone for aaron?17:46
ovidiu-florinhttp://pad.ubuntu.com/plasma5-UOS-201517:47
ovidiu-florinhttp://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22517/plasma-5-demo/17:49
valoriehmmm, I have no phone #17:51
Riddellstill 10 minutes17:51
valoriefor aaron17:51
valoriegack, and Ubuntu-Women meet is now also17:54
valoriesooo many meetings today!17:54
RiddellPlasma 5 demo on now! http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22517/plasma-5-demo/18:01
soeekickoff ?18:07
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sgclarksorry I have no sound..18:13
soeesgclark: working on kf5.10 maybe ?18:15
sgclarkI am on ci build yeah18:16
ovidiu-florinSick_Rimmit: turn on your lower third18:16
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: as well ^18:16
shadeslayerRiddell: linkeroo18:52
shadeslayerplz18:53
Riddellhttps://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYc8MGQiy1PyrQS_dRFnX53nvjJhUvi2hLgveW7mAfLrAoQvgQ?authuser=0&hl=en18:53
Riddellhttp://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22508/kubuntu-kickoff/18:53
Riddell #ubuntu-uos-core18:53
shadeslayerI'm there18:54
Riddellstill doing the plasma 5 demo now18:54
Tm_TI need to get sleep, travelling tomorrow and then showing off Ubuntu (and Kubuntu most likely) in an event on friday18:55
Tm_Tyeeeee18:55
shadeslayerRiddell: okie18:55
geniiThat went reasonably well.18:57
Sick_RimmitYes its was pretty good19:07
RiddellSick_Rimmit: join #ubuntu-uos-core19:08
Riddelland the new url https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYf8Q-X4hy5CQI0ettYyhrlapK4qnFxGVRgdE8NtoxCHG3pfeA?authuser=0&hl=en19:08
Sick_RimmitSorry guys browser crashed19:21
ahoneybunRiddell: can I move the card over to 'Doing' now?19:29
Riddellahoneybun: sure19:29
Riddellbut use the right channel!19:30
ahoneybunk19:30
ahoneybunoh19:30
geniiYes, Konsole does not remember which screen it was open on in the last session19:35
EtriaphRiddell: etriaph@gmail.com19:59
EtriaphAccount is setup.19:59
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EtriaphGoogle will spam-catch anything from logs.20:02
EtriaphI don't mind if any of you email me.20:02
Etriaphovidiu-florin, ahoneybun: With respect to the manual and SEO; it's probably best if it lives on the Kubuntu site as Kubuntu is not a KDE product.20:03
EtriaphOr within our domain.20:03
Riddellgroovy, thanks all20:03
Riddellthanks for joining us Etriaph and whoever Dave was I don't think I got his nick20:04
ovidiu-florinEtriaph: we can do some URL rewrites to the current wiki with our domain20:04
EtriaphHey, this was fun, :D20:04
valorieexcellent session20:04
Etriaphovidiu-florin: Nothing that crazy20:04
Etriaphovidiu-florin: :D20:04
RiddellEtriaph: well now you have responsibility!20:04
valorieto explain why we started using the wiki: docbook sucks, and so does the Ubuntu wiki20:04
valorieso we started using the KDE wiki to develop the docs20:05
EtriaphRiddell: I'm happy to assist in any way I can.  I've never assisted with an election before this, I don't know your processes.20:05
RiddellEtriaph: you're subscribed to kubuntu-devel mailing list?20:05
EtriaphRiddell: Yes.20:05
valoriebut as yofel says, that isn't the proper way to *present* the docs20:05
Etriaphovidiu-florin: We use WordPress20:05
Etriaphovidiu-florin: There must be a module that can assist20:05
EtriaphNope, WordPress == Evil20:06
EtriaphBut, if you're comfortable with it20:06
EtriaphYes20:06
valoriethe docs should be available in the software, on webpages, in ePub, etc.20:06
RiddellEtriaph: first thing is to send out an e-mail calling for new council members.  we need 3 membres to replace the 3 of us at the end of our times.  people can re-stand if they want.  people can nominate other people if they want20:06
Etriaphvalorie: For SEO, you want one location20:06
EtriaphYes20:06
EtriaphPodsCMS20:06
EtriaphNo20:07
EtriaphWordPress module20:07
valoriewe can't develop on the web20:07
RiddellEtriaph: http://www.kubuntu.org/kubuntu-council has the constitution including links to the voting system we use once the nominations are in20:07
EtriaphRiddell: OK, I'll get a draft going tonight.20:07
valoriethe most open way to develop the docs is on the wiki20:07
lordievaderRiddel: I think Dave is davevanloo in #kubuntu ;)20:07
RiddellEtriaph: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-council/+members lists current members20:07
RiddellEtriaph: you can see the dates for the 3 coming to the end of their terms20:07
Etriaphovidiu-florin: SEO, remember SEO20:08
Riddelllordievader: ah you could be right20:08
valoriewow, I can't believe it's been 2 years already20:08
Etriaphovidiu-florin: In our domain = higher credibility20:08
valorieEtriaph: thank you very much for doing the election20:08
Etriaphvalorie: No problem :D20:08
valorieI'll volunteer for next year20:09
Etriaphovidiu-florin: If I can get my mic working this evening (not set up yet I'm sure) I'll get in a chat and just talk web stuff.20:10
Etriaphovidiu-florin: Ya, I understand, I'm talking for the future so I'm not caught typing :D20:10
valoriethat said, we could go back to using launchpad to develop the docs -- they will now host git as well as bazaar20:10
yofelvalorie: oh? from when?20:11
ahoneybunlaunchpad?20:11
EtriaphRiddell, valorie: One thing to note, I'm not a member, is it normal for a non-member to be running the election?20:11
yofelEtriaph: not really, but it doesn't matter either, you just don't get to vote ^^20:11
ovidiu-florinSick_Rimmit: you said something about a floss event?20:12
Etriaphyofel: Ah, makes sense :D20:12
ovidiu-florinsoon?20:12
Riddellnot a member...yet :)20:12
yofelright, and that ^20:12
sgclarkI would but I do NOT want to replace the 3 lovely members lol20:12
valorieEtriaph: you should totally become a member20:12
valorierunning the election will be something of a large contribution20:12
Etriaphvalorie: I don't know what the requisites for that are.20:12
valorieno, no20:12
ahoneybunRiddell: I'll be up for running for the Council if I can20:12
Etriaphovidiu-florin: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-council/+members20:12
valorieKubuntu Member is not the same as the Council20:12
Etriaphovidiu-florin: ;)20:13
Riddellahoneybun: awooga20:13
ahoneybunque?20:13
Riddellsgclark: do it! competition is good20:13
valorie!member20:13
ubottuUbuntu Membership means recognition of a significant and sustained contribution to Ubuntu and the Ubuntu community.  For more info see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership20:13
sgclarklol20:13
valorieKubuntu Membership is Ubuntu Membership20:13
ahoneybunawooga?20:13
Riddellawooga awooga awooga20:13
valoriesame, but better :-)20:13
yofelahoneybun: any kubuntu member can run for the council, go ahead20:13
ahoneybunRiddell: what does that mean lol20:14
yofelahoneybun: it means wheeee \o/20:14
Riddellahoneybun: dunno but it sounds good (and don't you want Red Dwarf?)20:14
valorieahoneybun: it's a sound from old movies20:14
valorieah, and Red Dwarf, how did I forget20:14
ahoneybunRiddell: where do I go to put my name up?20:14
EtriaphRiddell: Does the email just go to Kubuntu-devel mailing list?20:14
Riddellahoneybun: wait for Etriaph to send out the e-mail20:14
RiddellEtriaph: yep20:15
valorieahoneybun: the election hasn't started yet20:15
ahoneybunok20:15
valorielol20:15
yofelRiddell, Etriaph: doesn't it go to -users too?20:15
Riddellgood idea/point20:15
EtriaphOK, I'll get that sorted out, probably send it out after 9PM EST20:16
yofelthe mailing list archive from may/june last year should have the last election mails20:16
EtriaphI have them in my gmail account somewhere too.20:16
EtriaphTake it easy ovidiu-florin20:16
EtriaphSleep well20:17
Etriaphahoneybun: Yup, still banging around.20:17
valoriewoah, http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/04/spam-blasting-malware-infects-thousands-of-linux-and-freebsd-servers/20:17
Etriaphahoneybun: Gonna hop out and listen to some chopin actually20:17
EtriaphEh-tree-aff20:18
Etriaph:D20:18
ovidiu-florinhere: Go nuts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFwAAjutC_020:18
EtriaphCall me Rob20:18
ovidiu-florinAnd the kickoff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHCda9mqjbA20:18
Etriaphahoneybun: We have IRC, it works just as well.20:18
* ovidiu-florin ZZZZZZzzzzz......20:18
EtriaphIt doesn't say which service was compromised re: ars article20:20
valorieyes, a bit vague20:20
valoriesweet dreams ovidiu-florin20:20
valoriecongratulations on the show and tell20:20
valorieyou and Sick_Rimmit and ahoneybun20:21
valoriewell done20:21
ahoneybunthanks valorie20:21
valorieI look forward to those more in-depth looks20:22
valoriewhen I'm not trying to cook breakfast while watching20:22
EtriaphLOL valorie20:22
ahoneybunRiddell: I added a comment on the muon discover card20:27
ahoneybunseems I found the dir where the slides are coming from20:27
Etriaphyofel: On users now.20:28
EtriaphIs the schedule something I set myself, or is there a predetermined election scheduling format that is used?20:28
yofelRiddell: ^20:31
RiddellEtriaph: I forget, try searching kubuntu-devel archives from this time last year to see what happened20:31
EtriaphRiddell: OK, I'll keep the same general voting period and sane defaults aside.20:32
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soeedo we need applications and plasma status links in topic ? :)20:59
sgclark?21:06
valorieoh right, now that wily is named, topic could use some updating21:07
valorieotoh, wily branches aren't working yet21:08
ScottKSneaky aren't they.21:09
EtriaphCall for nominations is out.21:11
soee~.~21:11
soeesgclark: we have Plasma 5.3 and applications 15.04 in backports so teh building status in topic is a bit outdated :)21:12
=== ahoneybun changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - 10 years of friendlyness | Applications 15.04 Status: It's out! | Plasma 5.3 Status: It's out! | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22508/kubuntu-kickoff/ Wed 6th 19:00UTC
valorieumm, that last bit is in the past21:19
valorieperhaps link to the youtube of it?21:19
ahoneybunI'll do it21:19
=== ahoneybun changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - 10 years of friendlyness | Applications 15.04 Status: It's out! | Plasma 5.3 Status: It's out! | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Kubuntu Kickoff: http://tinyurl.com/kubuntukickoff | Plasma 5 Demo: http://tinyurl.com/plasma5demo
ahoneybundone21:23
valoriethank you21:23
ahoneybunnp21:23
ahoneybunvalorie: I'm going to put in my name for the Council21:23
valorieyes, you said so earlier21:24
ahoneybunforgot I did21:24
ahoneybunsorry21:24
valoriewhoever is watching over our site: http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/04/spam-blasting-malware-infects-thousands-of-linux-and-freebsd-servers/21:44
EtriaphThey haven't pin-pointed the vulnerability really, there are a lot of ideas and speculation atm.21:50
Etriaphovidiu-florin: http://codex.wordpress.org/Hardening_WordPress21:53
Etriaphvalorie: Should I move the council elections card to the 'Doing' column?21:56
ScottKEtriaph: Yes21:58
EtriaphScottK: Thanks Scott21:59
valorieyup22:05
* valorie goes to pay bills on the winbox :(22:05
valorieworst part of the whole trail-widow gig beyond missing my hubby22:06
EtriaphWe all have to pay the bills.22:13
EtriaphSadly.22:13
valoriethat wasn't so bad23:05
valorieI didn't get hives or pull all my hair out23:05
valorieplus I fertilized the houseplants and swept the front porch23:06
valoriehmmm, why is an xfinity truck out front?23:06
valorieso now time to pack, I'll be gone until Wed. which is one of the reasons it is lovely you volunteered to run the election Etriaph23:07
EtriaphGlad to help :)23:08
ahoneybunEtriaph: I've add you to the Docs trello board as well23:15
* ahoneybun goes to shower23:15
Etriaphahoneybun: Roger that.23:23

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