[00:37] what gives devs? [00:37] updates every day?????? [00:37] reboots evry other frickin day? [00:38] this is retarded [00:38] you guys really cant find a more efficient way to roll out updates? [00:38] uberdub: can you find a more efficient way? Give me the link to the ISO of your OS. I'll load it up in a VM [00:39] yeah, I can [00:39] How do you handle it in the OS that you created? [00:40] consolidate them into bigger releases instead of this little update every day crap [00:40] and what if the update breaks something? [00:40] link me to the OS you designed. I'd be happy to try it [00:40] stfu [00:40] no one designed ubuntu [00:40] its a team effort [00:41] you're correct, my bad. Send me a link to the OS you and your team created. I'd be happy to try it [00:41] seriously? [00:41] thats your response? [00:41] lulz [00:41] are you like 15? [00:42] You're creating a scene and using lude and offensive language in a support channel for a free OS you decided to use. Not sure what you're expecting [00:42] ubuntu needs to be more efficient and careful with updates [00:42] Im tired of having to reboot my system every damn day [00:42] thats just retarded [00:43] you can get help and suggest new or more intuitive ideas without using offensive language [00:43] I forgot you bible thumping ubuntu guys get your panties in a wad over "lude" language [00:43] use the term "retarded" is pretty lude and will net you nothing in terms of help. [00:43] I just did [00:43] I dont need help [00:44] Ive been running linux since slack 8 [00:44] I need ubuntu to handle updates better [00:44] not my job [00:44] It's not anyone involved with ubuntus job to cater to you either. Especially with the attitude you bring on. [00:45] I guess I need to reinstall debian and stop messing with noobs [00:46] only ubuntu noobs would argue everyday, mass roll out updates are logical [00:46] I havent seen an argument in ages [00:46] Luckily im not running servers atm [00:47] Infact I've not seen someone quite as immature as you, in several of months [00:47] frickin daily reboots [00:47] not in here anyways [00:47] I guess youre mad Im right [00:47] lulz [00:48] on such a beautiful day, I'm actually quite content for the moment. [00:48] noob [00:49] unoobtu [00:49] lulz [01:43] https://fedorahosted.org/fldigi/wiki/Documentation/HOWTO/Serial_Port_Setup <- followed the instructions here.. if I repeat them it says I'm already a member of dialout, but when I type groups dialout isn't listed and I do NOT have access to the port.. suggestions? === aaron__ is now known as ahoneybun [02:58] how can i use double-click instead of single click on desktop symbols etc...? [03:05] muh2000: if you type alt+f2 and type click, you'll get to the mouse control module where you can set that [03:08] valorie: nope [03:09] but i found it under system settings. [03:09] weird. [03:09] nope what? [03:09] dolphin was doubleclick desktop wasent [03:09] yes, krunner just gives you the specific bit you need [03:09] before the upgrade it was both doubleclick [03:09] are you running 15.04? [03:10] yes [03:10] i have another issue with dualmonitor. [03:10] you are now running plasma 5, and there will be some new settings [03:10] Dolphin, however, has not been ported yet [03:11] when i switch the 2nd monitor off, the desktop becomes expanded in a way that when i move the mouse towards where the 2nd monitor should be, the whole ddesktop moves in that direction cutting the picture off..... [03:16] threedee: did you logout and log back in? [03:17] cjwelborn: yes [03:19] that gives me an idea though [03:19] ahh, no I didn't.. I just opened a new terminal window [03:19] true login cycle does it [03:21] Thank you [03:22] threedee: no problem, i've done that several times. :) === developer is now known as anoio === aaron__ is now known as ahoneybun [03:37] is there a way to deactivate password prompt from muon when upgrading software? [03:39] hmmm, I guess you could make the password blank [03:39] but seems terribly dangerous though [03:39] valorie: not an option [03:39] i see no point asking for passwords when upgrading - different storry for installing NEW software maybe. [03:40] upgrading often does result in new software such as libraries, etc. [03:40] true [03:40] but no "hacker related tools" :) [03:41] really, that is one of the things I hate about windows - stuff can be installed with no password required [03:42] lol i like not caring about what the fudge is new, when it is new it usually has to be installed due bug fixes etc... [03:42] true [03:42] but you need not do updates until you have time [03:43] and I believe you can allow security updates in the background [03:46] ok [03:46] i like the desktop notification though [03:46] me too [03:46] great now my folder thing wont display stuff. [03:46] after a reboot... [03:47] mounted folder displayer on desktop but not displaying content... [03:48] i see why. it does not keep settings. always falling back to whatever not working. [03:48] another dull app... [03:48] have you run sudo when it wasn't needed since you installed? [03:49] I keep seeing this popping up randomly [03:49] it sounds like a permissions issue, since setting are saved in your $HOME [03:50] before the reboot there was no issue... === mayko_ is now known as mayko [03:52] hmmm [03:54] is there a way to restore the desktop post-its from 14.10? [03:54] or at least gather the text? [03:56] do you recall what that was called? [03:57] I've never used such a thing [04:00] the app hmmmm desktop notes or something like that [04:01] could it have been kjots or knotes? [04:02] I did apt-cache search notes [04:02] and those two seem possibilities [04:04] valorie: knotes [04:06] https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=215&t=120831 might help === docker is now known as anoio [04:31] valorie: no help :( [04:32] the data seems to be gone :( [05:01] muh2000: no backup? [05:01] :( [05:09] there's still people that don't regularly make backups? === kevin is now known as Guest44051 [05:15] valorie: i made a backup before the upgrade... :) will be looking into it later this evening [05:17] ah, that's good to hear [05:17] but i am not quite sure whether it was encrypted ^^ [05:20] unless your /home was encrypted, that's not the problem [05:20] the problem is if it is in a database [05:20] I don't know that it is, but I've lost data for that reason - backing up the wrong bits [05:22] i used encfs(for home) or how it was called... i could decrypt it [05:23] ok, I'm glad you have a handle on it [05:23] :) [05:43] !source [05:43] You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html [05:44] valorie 0/. Good evening to ya. Or morning depending on your side of the world :) [05:48] coming up on 11pm [05:48] nice to see you, gunndawg === Lakii^ is now known as Lakii === IdleOne is now known as Guest91071 === Jesse_Dhammu is now known as JesseDhammu === juboxi is now known as jubo2 === kubuntu is now known as kubuntu_ === kubuntu_ is now known as kubuntu__ === kubuntu__ is now known as kubuntu === kubuntu is now known as Guest82745 [08:51] Good morning. [09:45] Hey there. I'm using kubuntu 14.04 with the backports ppa. I encounter a reproducible bug (on several systems) that Ark isn't able to create ZIP files. It will always create TAR.GZ files if ZIP is selected, though they are named as ZIP which will confuse other systems (e.g Windows). This happens both on context menu ZIP command as well as on manual Ark 'compress to' dialog usage. Is this a known issue? Would the backports ppa's launchpad [09:45] page the appropriate place for reporting this? [09:50] guys, do you know a way to render and export whole page to png, jpg or whatever? [09:51] ejay: do you mean webpage? [09:52] M4he: yeah, yeah, webpage, my question wasn't too specific. I meant webpage. [09:54] ejay: There are plugins for that. [09:55] If you are using Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/pagesaver/?src=ss for image, https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/print-pages-to-pdf/?src=ss for pdf [09:56] M4he: kudos to you. This is what I need. Thank you. [10:16] hi out there [10:17] hello [10:17] i have a problem with the installation kubuntu 15.04 on a toshiba laptop as a second OS [10:18] what problems? [10:18] M4he: I can't confirm that. On a fresh install, ark creates .zip files and file confirms that they are .zip files. I even tested by using unzip. [10:18] as i want to install the installation seems allways to use the entire disk not only the free space [10:19] alvin: are you using the backports? what does 'kded4 -version' say? [10:19] markus_: did you set up a partition table for the install? [10:19] M4he: Yes, I am. Also tested on an upgraded machine now [10:20] no is this necessary ? [10:20] M4he: Qt 4.8.6, KDE Development Platform 4.14.7 and KDE Daemon 4.14.7 [10:20] markus_: well if you want to decide where linux installs and how much space it takes up, then yeah [10:20] what is the right way to install kubuntu as second OS ? [10:20] markus_: I guess since you want to install it as second OS and that it's a Toshiba computer that you already have windows installed. I assume that the windows partitions use the full harddisk [10:21] not to mention the recovery partition [10:21] no windows does not use the entire diskspace as i have created a new, empty partition on the dick [10:22] alvin: are you on 14.04? [10:22] oh ... disk [10:22] M4he: 15.04 [10:22] M4he: I missed that you were on 14.04. Sorry [10:22] alvin: I'm running 14.04 with the backports resulting in KDE 4.14.2 [10:22] it is empty an not formatted [10:22] can you take a pic and post it somehwere? [10:23] Well. You might have run into a known bug (since it is fixed) [10:23] alvin: seems so. So I'm stuck with the bug on trusty then? [10:23] You also might want to stay on 14.04, since it is an LTS. But that's the trouble with LTS. You get security updates, but bugfixes? [10:24] alvin: yea I vastly prefer LTS [10:24] Upgrading might give you other bugs. That much is true. Plasma5 is nice, but has sharp edges. [10:25] alvin: it does indeed, I tested it already. I'd prefer to stay on trusty until Plasma5 is ready for productive usage [10:26] is it right that i have to create a partitions table before the installation ? [10:27] markus_: are you at the partitioning step? If so, take a picture and post it [10:27] or screenshot [10:27] markus_: As far as I'm aware, the Kubuntu installer can shrink Windows partitions [10:29] alvin: normally i think so too, but the installer shows all the existing partitions an the he says 'after installation' and shows all the disk as kubuntu [10:30] hyper_ch: how can i do this ? [10:30] Ouch. You might want to choose manual then. [10:30] take your phone, start the camera app, take a picture, upload it to some image hoste [10:30] r [10:31] in manual it shows all the partitions but it is not possible to creat a new partitions table [10:32] i think i will try it with kubuntu 14.04 an the do an upgrade to 15.04 === kevin is now known as Guest68654 [10:33] then im online again with the results === Guest91071 is now known as IdleOne [10:33] the disk probably still has mbr formatting allowing only 4 primary partitions [10:34] still waiting for the pic [10:34] i have only 3 [10:34] take a pic or print the partition layout [10:34] I'm done guessing [10:35] i am not at the partition step now because i break and shut down the computer [10:36] if im on again i will show you a pic ... ok ? [10:53] hi there I wonder is there a way to keep widgets on a 15.04 update? [10:53] because I've done it on my laptop and they were lost, now I wonder whether they get lost on my desktop too === David1977 is now known as Guest10765 [11:25] Hi folks [11:27] hi BluesKaj === malte is now known as Cobalt === Cobalt is now known as [Cobalt] [11:38] hmmmm, is there a way to make a link in a kdialog dialog? so that you can click on it and it opens in the default browser? === gnuanu is now known as anoop [11:58] hi hyper_ch === toscalix__ is now known as 17SACH95Y [12:04] hi all i try to compile aircrack, but i need the libnl3, i have install it and the dev too... but is like isnt installed... i am on kubuntu 15.04, on 14.04 i havent got this problem, what can i do? [12:06] the strange think its that i compile it on 14.04 and in the make install on 15.04 still tell me thit that library when is on system... === 17SACH95Y is now known as toscalix__ [12:10] z4sk4: Have you installed the libnl3 headers? (the dev package) [12:11] lordievader: yeah ofcourse, and i see the routes and are the same of 14.04 [12:11] so strange [12:11] Can you pastebin the full error? [12:11] !paste | z4sk4 [12:11] z4sk4: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [12:13] lordievader: fixed, i installed all variantes of libnl-*-dev and works... maybe the library need was a variant [12:13] Suppose so. [12:13] need a variant [12:14] thanks lordievader ua lways are here xD [12:14] z4sk4: My server is allways here ;) [12:15] BluesKaj: you know about kdialog? [12:17] hyper_ch, nope [12:17] BluesKaj: but you're my KDE Hero.... [12:18] it would be awesome if I could make kdialog show clickable urls [12:26] hyper_ch, switch heroes because I don't even know what kdioalog is :-) [12:26] oh! lordievader the problem from yesterday of nertowrk-manager with trying monitoring with aircrack, was a problem from aircrack on ubuntu 15.04, i am not the only one.. so maybe i must whait to the repo version o web version (have diferent error messages but always fix it when stop network-manager)... === toscalix__ is now known as 17SACH95Y [12:33] BluesKaj: you don't? awwww :( [12:34] well, adding html markup makes it show as link but it's not clickable [12:39] hyper_ch: ctrl+click? [12:39] when using the --passivepopup then the links are clickable... [12:40] hyper_ch: You can have a help link it seems: http://api.kde.org/4.1-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdeui/html/classKDialog.html [12:42] Hello [12:42] Someone speaks spanish? [12:42] !es | Carluchox [12:42] Carluchox: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro. [12:43] lordievader: not ctrl-clickable either. It displays as URL but that's it: kdialog --msgbox 'Auf den Entscheid kann mit folgender URL direkt zugegriffen werden:

'KDE'' [12:45] lordievader: this is clickable, but you can't right-click & copy the url: kdialog --title "Urteils-URL" --passivepopup ''KDE'' [12:46] That second one goes to the notifications here. [12:47] lordievader: yes --> --passivepopup [12:47] but you can click the url there [12:47] in the --msgbox you can't [12:48] Hmm, from where are you calling kdialogbox? [12:50] bash script [12:51] Right, as I figured. I have no idea how to do that. [12:53] open konsole [12:53] paste the code lines in there [12:55] hyper_ch: Getting the link clickable I mean ;) [12:55] awwwww [12:55] well, in the --passivepopup it's clickable but you can't right-click and copy the url into memory [12:56] Clicking it here, even with --passivepopup, does nothing. [12:56] my super awesome project has this beauty flaw [12:56] lordievader: weird.. that opens the url just fine in chromium forme === willy is now known as goodtime [13:55] o.O :) alguien que me pueda dar ayuda en idioma español.. pls [13:55] !es [13:55] En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro. === willy_ is now known as goodtime === kevin is now known as Guest34981 [14:55] !boot-repair [14:56] !info boot-repair [14:56] Package boot-repair does not exist in vivid === 17SACH95Y is now known as toscalix__ [15:01] hey guys, what's the best way to increase battery life? [15:01] turn of your laptop :), but in a serious note.. dim the backlight.. and use as little cpu/gpu heavy software really.. :) === agrishin is now known as Archer === Archer is now known as ArcherGodson [15:03] davevanloo: that's all well and good, but are there ways to optimize power usage? I've already got the backlight at minimal and am using barely anything that has a high resource usage [15:06] you could look into underclocking your CPU according to demand.., kinda like most android phones do.., although i wouldnt know of any good software to do that out the top of my head, im a desktop user myself [15:06] never considered that [15:08] finetundra: its just an idea.., i do not know of the software exists though [15:08] I think the default schedular is ondemand. Anyways powertop is nice for seing power consumptions. [15:09] finetundra: the software mentioned here, seems to be interesting for you aswel: http://askubuntu.com/questions/285434/is-there-a-power-saving-application-similar-to-jupiter [15:10] alright, I'll have a look, thanks fellas [15:10] laptop-mode-tools or tlp can help.. but beware not to mess with the ALPM settings as thats been found to corrupt data on some disks [15:12] Laptop-mode-tools is nice :) === willy is now known as goodtime [15:49] finetundra: turn off wifi and bluetooth [16:19] another bug reported... KCalc won't listen to input from numeric keypad [16:20] can anyone on 15.04 with Kubuntu Team Beta Backport PPA also try? [16:22] * hyper_ch feels all alone :( [16:22] Hello everyone! I have a quick question that I cannot find an answer to. [16:23] Does anyone know where Plasma 5.2 stores its xrandr configuration information? [16:23] dman87: please just ask it [16:23] in previous versions, it was under ~/.kde/share/krandrrc [16:23] but, I cannot find this file in Plasma 5.2 on Kubuntu 15.04 [16:23] probably in ~/.config/xxxxx [16:24] I looked there as well but could not find it directly [16:24] all config files were moved there I think because of some conevntion thingy [16:24] has the filename changed possibly?? [16:24] .local/share/kscreen [16:24] right... it's not a config.... somehow [16:25] lol [16:25] thank you so much! [16:25] I had noticed that most of the config files moved to .config [16:25] dman87: can you test if kcalc works with your numeric keypad? [16:25] sure, 1 sec [16:26] kcalc works fine on my usb keyboard on a Lenovo T450s laptop [16:26] I am able to use numbers and *, -, +, etc [16:26] with the numeric keys? [16:26] hmmm.... [16:26] yes [16:26] you use 5.2, right? [16:26] that is correct [16:26] well, I have different keyboards at home and work and neither works on 5.3 [16:26] interesting, did it work correctly on 5.2? [16:27] hyper_ch: did you test it with any other software? also did you make sure your num-lock is correct ( i know its derpy to ask.., but sometimes people do derp..) [16:27] never used 5.2 [16:27] davevanloo: all other proggies (kontact, url bar in chromium, libre office, dolphin url bar etc) work fine [16:27] I've been thinking about upgrading to 5.3, you're not convincing me, lol :-p [16:27] qtpass also.... [16:27] but not kcalc [16:28] dman87: well, I have 16 open bug reports now :) [16:28] allright.. it is strange indeed.., i suppose my last recomendation would be.. to check that you selected the right keyboard in settings ( or during install.. ) [16:28] Good, maybe they'll be fixed by the time I get around to testing it [16:28] right keyboard settings? [16:29] the most annoying bug that only I seem to have is that I can't resize Konsole anymore [16:29] if I do, it freezes [16:29] and not to forget the locale chaos [16:29] yikes, I haven't used Konsole except to install yakuake [16:29] yea.. basicly from azerty qwerty european north american.. theres al sorts of lay outs.., it freezing.. "could" lead to incorrect settings aswel.. [16:29] ah, you're also one of those yakuake [16:29] i preffer installing via konsole :P [16:29] davevanloo: I have swiss german layout [16:30] ti's just too convenient when I need a terminal that way--to each his own lol [16:30] davevanloo: I open konsole... [16:30] resize it.... then when I'm quick enough I'm able to type 2-3 chars and then it freezes [16:30] I do a lot of work where I'm in and out of the terminal. It's nice to easily hide it like with yakuake [16:30] hyper_ch: i did not mean to ask you to open konsole.. it was as a response to yakuake [16:31] thanks for the info about the xrandr config stuff guys/gals! [16:31] dman87: I have konsole always visible on a small part of my desktop [16:31] hyper_ch: then, I would have to minimize my windows [16:31] and I have a little start up script that open multiple konsole tabs and makes several remote server connections [16:32] dman87: two screen are just not enough ;) [16:32] that's handy [16:32] I need a 3rd 24" screen [16:32] haha, I use 3 on my laptop... I want a 4th [16:32] whahaha, true.., but i make deu hyper_ch! :P [16:32] well, 1 internal and two external displays [16:32] well i have 2 physical monitors.. [16:32] well, I turn the laptop screen off [16:32] 12" isn't worth it [16:32] it's handy to have. Most of the time it is either just email or a random web page [16:33] the desktop at home is just two monitors [16:33] jups.., or something your working at and some sort of refference information... or like right now.., a series running on one.. and the other one for chatting [16:33] yeah true, I have irc open on my laptop monitor, lol [16:34] haha, i "could" cast the irc chat to my 3rd monitor.. :P [16:34] lol, good idea! [16:34] well, I'm going to mess around with these xrandr settings to see if I can solve my issues. Thanks again! Have a good day/night all! [16:34] https://paste.debian.net/172117/ [16:35] nice script! [16:35] bye all! [16:35] o/ [16:35] found that script somewhere nd modified it to my needs [16:35] nice to open multiple stuff directly with one click onto the desktop [16:38] so, let's go hunt some pirates.... [16:38] bbml === jbeaudry_ is now known as jbeaudry === juboxi is now known as jubo2 [17:19] G'day folks. === StefanYohansson is now known as snotr [17:34] 25 mins to Plasma 5 demo! http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22517/plasma-5-demo/ [18:01] Plasma 5 demo on now! http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22517/plasma-5-demo/ [18:05] * genii twitches [18:05] IRC Channel: #ubuntu-uos-showandtell === aaron__ is now known as ahoneybun [18:19] Hello, anyone has problems with debugger under Kubuntu? [18:19] Debugging virtually impossible because every step over takes a minute or so [18:20] I was experiencing this problem on Kubuntu 14.10, I have a feeling that it became even worse on Kubuntu 15.04 [18:21] I have recently installed kubuntu 15.04 in my Hp laptop.I have selected sleep action when lid is closed.But when I open the lid,it is completely stuck with only a still curson seen.Can anyone help me fix this? [18:24] Oh, you asked here, excellent. :D [18:24] qmania: It may be a bug, have you checked if someone has reported this before? [18:25] Etriaph: I will check it now and report it if not done [18:26] Until then, don't suspend it. :D [18:26] If it's not logged I'll try to see what I can do for you by way of looking into it. [18:28] is this the bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1451482 [18:28] Launchpad bug 1451482 in linux (Ubuntu) "Laptop fails to suspend when lid already closed and AC removed" [Medium,Incomplete] === toscalix__ is now known as 17SACH95Y === 17SACH95Y is now known as toscalix__ [18:33] Most likely SDDM doesn't like coming out of suspend === mahmoud is now known as Guest61439 [18:35] qmania, the best method i've found on 15.04 is sudo pm-suspend in the konsole === gebjgd_ is now known as gebjgd === toscalix__ is now known as 17SACH95Y [19:05] kubuntu kickoff for wily starting now: [19:05] http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22508/kubuntu-kickoff/ [19:05] IRC Channel: #ubuntu-uos-core === sg is now known as Guest77579 === kubuntu is now known as vedmed === kevin is now known as Guest36933 === toscalix is now known as toscalix_away [19:45] How big (in GB) is a fresh Kubuntu 14.04 install? === David1977 is now known as Guest41589 === cesar_ is now known as Guest14313 [19:59] GunnDawg, I believe it's around 5G after updates/upgrades [20:00] BluesKaj: Thank you sir [20:02] GunnDawg, just checked my 14.10 and it's grown from 5 to 7G since installation [20:03] on / that is , my /home dir is on a separate partition [20:04] hi [20:05] when i trying to add for autostart appliaction as desktop file [20:05] im getting error [20:05] Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: [20:05] klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'file' [20:05] ubuntu 15.04 [20:05] updated from 14.04 [20:08] davevanloo: contributors welcome in #kubuntu-devel :) [20:47] https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?67535-File-dialogs-aren-t-working-quot-URL-cannot-be-listed-trash-quot <<<< same problem here, help! Can't reinstall, need solution! :D === benedikt_ is now known as Streamstormer [20:51] Trying to help a friend out. What's the best way to set up a Kubuntu 14.04 and Windows dual boot? I dont dual boot so I've not messed with it [20:51] I thought the installer had a "install alongside..." option but apparently not [20:52] GunnDawg, is windows already installed? I presume it is. [20:52] BluesKaj: yes [20:52] Might not see it due to EFI or such [20:54] GunnDawg, best to put gparted on a cd or usb and use that to partition the drive, p[robly have to shrink the windows partition then use the unallocated to create an ext4 linux partition for kubuntu [20:54] BluesKaj: yeah I'm starting to see that, thanks for the confirmation [20:56] BluesKaj: http://i.imgur.com/KYeZDB5.jpg [20:56] Will that top option automatically re size and install? Looks like it may [20:56] genii, what's the best approach for installing grub with ubiquity on uefi/gpt [20:57] Dunno :( No boxes I currently work with use EFI/UEFI [20:58] GunnDawg, hmm, 25G is bit small for the linux install unles it's just for experimentation [20:58] BluesKaj: yeah but you can slide those arrows (<- ->) to reisze it, which he did [21:00] GunnDawg, how old is thi pc , maybe uefi isn't an issue here since the HDD is only 120G [21:01] BluesKaj: It's not a NEWER system [21:01] or which windows OS ? [21:01] windows 8, but oldder hardware [21:02] if it's older than 2010 the install is really straightforward ..translate =easy :)) [21:03] seems you have it well in hand, just set the size of the partition you wnat and proceed [21:04] hmmm 25gbs should be decent enough for a *nix, linux install, say hmmm 12.04 , base install is just 3.5gbs, 14.04 I think runs around less than 5gbs [21:04] BluesKaj: aye. Time will tell. Seems fine at this point. Thanks again for the input [21:05] My friend is used to windows and having his programs installed on his external HDD. At this point its all on that 27GB partition. Can he configure his /home to be on that external HDD after install? [21:05] I figured that's something that should have been set up at the partition table but clearly, he didnt do that [21:06] GunnDawg , no, he has to set up a /home parition now [21:06] if he wants one [21:07] fair enough [21:07] putting home on a different drive can work , but it slows things down [21:07] GunnDawg: though.... you could move /home location.... the external hdd will be slower than the internal one, and bear in mind that /home loads all configuration files and themes and fonts and other resources, you'd want that to load fast, so is better off in the internal hdd [21:07] BluesKaj: I explained that to him as well. He's being quite picky at the moment with this setup. [21:09] well then let him do it , and he'll learn that he should have them on the same drive soon enough :-) [21:09] GunnDawg: he could just , when the install is done, transfer things over to /home, and whatever he'd like to keep in the external, put a symlink at /home for it, pointing to the external [21:10] GunnDawg: but configuration files and themes and fonts and cached thumbnails and browser cached content and cookies, you'd want that to load fast, thus is better of in the internal one [21:10] GunnDawg, make sure that he use the mountppoint for the 25G partiton beside windows as / [21:10] right [21:11] we're past that. Just trying to give him options for his /home mount point now [21:11] browsers uses /home to store their cache and configuration files usually at ~/.local/share and ~/.config and/or ~/.cache, slow cache access, will mean slow loading pages [21:11] the mountpoint on the outboard as /home [21:14] bprompt, he'll learn that soon enough , just let him get his feet wet first , then he'll realize he should have listened to us :) [21:14] I'm relaying all of this guys. Trying to convince him otherwise as well [21:14]