| pitti | Good morning | 04:25 |
|---|---|---|
| thumper | o/ pitti | 04:29 |
| TheMuso | Morning pitti. :) | 04:47 |
| pitti | hey thumper, hey TheMuso, how are you? | 04:47 |
| thumper | doin' good, busy like normal | 04:48 |
| thumper | making juju more awesomer during the day, working on my startup at night | 04:48 |
| thumper | sleeping less | 04:48 |
| TheMuso | pitti: Very well thanks, yourself? | 04:51 |
| pitti | thumper: uh, how long can you sustain that :) | 04:51 |
| pitti | TheMuso: quite fine, thanks! | 04:51 |
| thumper | pitti: been doing it hard for about a year, very patchy before that | 04:51 |
| thumper | pitti: every one of my holidays in the last year and a bit has been working on the startup (except for last week - parent help at my daughter's year 8 school camp) | 04:52 |
| thumper | pitti: it is hard... hoping it will be worthwhile one day | 04:52 |
| didrocks | good morning | 06:12 |
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| pitti | bonjour didrocks | 06:24 |
| seb128 | hey pitti & desktopers | 06:30 |
| seb128 | wie gehts? | 06:30 |
| * seb128 upgrades to w | 06:30 | |
| pitti | c'est un seb128 ! salut ! | 06:30 |
| didrocks | hey pitti! (sorry, didn't see your ping) | 06:30 |
| pitti | seb128: gut, danke! systemd debugging again :) | 06:30 |
| pitti | seb128: just now? you are soooo late to the werewolf :) | 06:30 |
| pitti | (it's just boring, nothing really changed yet..) | 06:31 |
| seb128 | pitti, yeah, first upgrade, then contribute to making the thing more exciting :-) | 06:31 |
| seb128 | pitti, desktop debugging or making the phone like systemd? ;-) | 06:31 |
| pitti | but oh well, it was already some fun to untangle some uninstallability and test regressions this morning :) | 06:31 |
| pitti | seb128: Laney's schroot-in-lxc woes, so desktop | 06:31 |
| pitti | seb128: that's the last bug scheduled for the next SRU, then I can go back infecting^Wporting the phone | 06:32 |
| seb128 | great | 06:32 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, do you know why libreoffice is triggering alternative failure/fixed emails almost daily | 06:36 |
| seb128 | it's a bit annoying | 06:36 |
| seb128 | it's like "failed" and a few hours later you get "fixed" | 06:37 |
| seb128 | it keeps doing that | 06:37 |
| pitti | that was part of my fixes this morning | 06:37 |
| pitti | tzdata was uninstallable in wily | 06:37 |
| seb128 | oh, good | 06:37 |
| pitti | so libreoffice, cantor, poxml, and chromium-browser failed | 06:37 |
| pitti | now they are all happy again | 06:37 |
| seb128 | great | 06:37 |
| * Sweet5hark has a look | 06:37 | |
| seb128 | when I clicked on the public url yesterday it was an "empty" label page | 06:38 |
| seb128 | so I couldn't see the issue | 06:38 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, hey, seems like pitti already handled it :-) | 06:38 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: fwiw. looking at the last failure in vivid, its an 'unexpected EOF' on the source tarball ... | 06:40 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: so I would assume libreoffice being this big, it just is more sensible to flaky network connections and other temporary glitches in the matrix ... | 06:41 |
| pitti | yes, that's my fault, bug 1384706 | 06:42 |
| ubot5 | bug 1384706 in autopkgtest (Ubuntu) "tar: Unexpected EOF in archive in copyup()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1384706 | 06:42 |
| pitti | it's ridiculously hard to reproduce and investigate, unfortunately :/ | 06:42 |
| Sweet5hark | pitti: http://vmiklos.hu/blog/so-many-bugs.html <- backside of t-shirt applies | 06:44 |
| pitti | Sweet5hark: ^5s | 06:44 |
| seb128 | grrrr, firefox had some issues yesterday and nucked my password/login db it seems | 07:35 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ^ is there a backup on disk somewhere that I can use for those cases? | 07:36 |
| pitti | seb128: eek, no backup? | 07:37 |
| seb128 | pitti, backups but not from the full userdir and not from .mozilla... | 07:37 |
| willcooke | o/ | 07:50 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke | 07:51 |
| larsu | morning willcooke! | 07:52 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke | 07:54 |
| willcooke | xmir is fixed! | 08:02 |
| Laney | meow | 08:02 |
| willcooke | happyaron, thanks for your email. I will read it and digest today | 08:04 |
| willcooke | happyaron, How was Scotland btw? | 08:05 |
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| FJKong | /quit | 12:05 |
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| tkamppeter | willcooke, hi | 12:42 |
| theo_ | instellen slaapstand scherm | 13:17 |
| didrocks | ok, all tests are finally passing again | 13:20 |
| * didrocks goes for a run | 13:20 | |
| seb128 | didrocks, enjoy! | 13:28 |
| Laney | man | 14:52 |
| Laney | what is this u-s-d media-keys race | 14:52 |
| didrocks | Laney: around for at least a cycle | 15:05 |
| Laney | I didn't say it was new | 15:06 |
| Laney | irritating though | 15:06 |
| didrocks | yeah, didn't get any useful debug IIRC | 15:06 |
| didrocks | and didn't reproduce when running u-s-d in debug mode | 15:07 |
| didrocks | I guess a typical heisenbug | 15:07 |
| didrocks | you add debug, it slows it down enough to not get the race | 15:07 |
| seb128 | is that when u-s-d starts before compiz? | 15:08 |
| seb128 | or the other way around? | 15:08 |
| seb128 | or nothing to do with that? | 15:08 |
| Laney | hmm | 15:17 |
| Laney | could be a race there | 15:17 |
| Laney | don't know if that causes this though | 15:17 |
| seb128 | the way it's supposed to work is for compiz to do the grabbing and send the events to u-s-d over dbus and u-s-d triggers the actions | 15:18 |
| seb128 | when you get the bug, does hitting the key generate the dbus events? | 15:19 |
| seb128 | of it does the issue is on the u-s-d side | 15:19 |
| seb128 | if it doesn't it's compiz/unity | 15:19 |
| Laney | org.gnome.Shell AcceleratorActivated happens | 15:20 |
| seb128 | so u-s-d issue I guess | 15:20 |
| attente | none of the shortcuts are working? | 15:20 |
| Laney | doesn't seem so | 15:21 |
| attente | did u-s-d possibly crash? | 15:21 |
| Laney | nah | 15:21 |
| attente | because then compiz would keep the grabs | 15:21 |
| Laney | oh, in the past? | 15:21 |
| attente | yeah | 15:21 |
| Laney | umm | 15:21 |
| seb128 | attente, compiz having the grab would be fine? | 15:22 |
| seb128 | it's supposed to work this way no? | 15:22 |
| seb128 | compiz grab and send the dbus messages | 15:22 |
| seb128 | and u-s-d listen to dbus and call the callbacks? | 15:22 |
| attente | yeah, but if u-s-d crashes, the new instance of u-s-d would re-register new grabs, but the older grabs compiz already has takes priority iirc | 15:22 |
| seb128 | why is u-s-d registering grabs? | 15:23 |
| seb128 | I though compiz was the one grabbing | 15:23 |
| attente | i mean u-s-d registering grabs with compiz | 15:24 |
| attente | over dbus | 15:24 |
| attente | org.gnome.Shell.GrabAccelerator[s] | 15:24 |
| seb128 | how is that working? I though compiz was grabbing the key and just sending on dbus org.gnome.Shell.AcceleratorActivated | 15:24 |
| seb128 | that any u-s-d running instance would listen to | 15:25 |
| attente | yeah, but it would be sending the old accelerator id | 15:25 |
| attente | that the crashed u-s-d registered | 15:25 |
| seb128 | oh, I didn't know they had changing ids | 15:25 |
| attente | the new u-s-d wouldn't know the old u-s-d's ids | 15:25 |
| seb128 | I though each action had a fix enum type number | 15:25 |
| attente | unless i'm not remembering properly | 15:25 |
| seb128 | I don't know the details of that protocol | 15:26 |
| seb128 | I just had a remote look at the time you guys did the change | 15:26 |
| seb128 | you are probably right :-) | 15:26 |
| seb128 | Laney, since when is u-s-d running for you (compared to unity) | 15:27 |
| Laney | can't check, sorry, I restarted it | 15:28 |
| Laney | attente: if I get compiz to ungrab those IDs should it start working again? | 15:28 |
| attente | Laney: yeah, ungrab over d-bus, then restart u-s-d should work | 15:29 |
| Laney | it grabs it again | 15:29 |
| Laney | :| | 15:30 |
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| EphraimMB | What is Unity 8 up to now? Any screenshots? | 16:23 |
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| seb128 | EphraimMB, desktop or phone ones? you can probably easily google for some | 17:10 |
| seb128 | happyaron, bug #1380982 is the most reported vivid e.u.c issue, is that something you are looking at? | 17:10 |
| ubot5 | bug 1380982 in ibus (Ubuntu) "ibus-ui-gtk3 crashed with SIGABRT in g_assertion_message()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1380982 | 17:10 |
| EphraimMB | Desktop | 17:10 |
| jcastro | willcooke, I had a concurrent session during the unity8 showoff | 17:45 |
| jcastro | anything sexy I miss? | 17:45 |
| willcooke | jcastro, I wasnt there either - too many concurrent sessions :) | 17:46 |
| willcooke | maybe mzanetti knows? ^^ | 17:46 |
| willcooke | guess we could just watch the video | 17:46 |
| jcastro | I just need a package name and/or PPA, heh | 17:46 |
| mzanetti | oh yeah, you did miss something cool :D | 17:47 |
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| happyaron | seb128: sorry, nope, getting something hard to handle with willc | 18:29 |
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