[04:25] Good morning [04:29] o/ pitti [04:47] Morning pitti. :) [04:47] hey thumper, hey TheMuso, how are you? [04:48] doin' good, busy like normal [04:48] making juju more awesomer during the day, working on my startup at night [04:48] sleeping less [04:51] pitti: Very well thanks, yourself? [04:51] thumper: uh, how long can you sustain that :) [04:51] TheMuso: quite fine, thanks! [04:51] pitti: been doing it hard for about a year, very patchy before that [04:52] pitti: every one of my holidays in the last year and a bit has been working on the startup (except for last week - parent help at my daughter's year 8 school camp) [04:52] pitti: it is hard... hoping it will be worthwhile one day [06:12] good morning === hikiko__ is now known as hikiko [06:24] bonjour didrocks [06:30] hey pitti & desktopers [06:30] wie gehts? [06:30] * seb128 upgrades to w [06:30] c'est un seb128 ! salut ! [06:30] hey pitti! (sorry, didn't see your ping) [06:30] seb128: gut, danke! systemd debugging again :) [06:30] seb128: just now? you are soooo late to the werewolf :) [06:31] (it's just boring, nothing really changed yet..) [06:31] pitti, yeah, first upgrade, then contribute to making the thing more exciting :-) [06:31] pitti, desktop debugging or making the phone like systemd? ;-) [06:31] but oh well, it was already some fun to untangle some uninstallability and test regressions this morning :) [06:31] seb128: Laney's schroot-in-lxc woes, so desktop [06:32] seb128: that's the last bug scheduled for the next SRU, then I can go back infecting^Wporting the phone [06:32] great [06:36] Sweet5hark, do you know why libreoffice is triggering alternative failure/fixed emails almost daily [06:36] it's a bit annoying [06:37] it's like "failed" and a few hours later you get "fixed" [06:37] it keeps doing that [06:37] that was part of my fixes this morning [06:37] tzdata was uninstallable in wily [06:37] oh, good [06:37] so libreoffice, cantor, poxml, and chromium-browser failed [06:37] now they are all happy again [06:37] great [06:37] * Sweet5hark has a look [06:38] when I clicked on the public url yesterday it was an "empty" label page [06:38] so I couldn't see the issue [06:38] Sweet5hark, hey, seems like pitti already handled it :-) [06:40] seb128: fwiw. looking at the last failure in vivid, its an 'unexpected EOF' on the source tarball ... [06:41] seb128: so I would assume libreoffice being this big, it just is more sensible to flaky network connections and other temporary glitches in the matrix ... [06:42] yes, that's my fault, bug 1384706 [06:42] bug 1384706 in autopkgtest (Ubuntu) "tar: Unexpected EOF in archive in copyup()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1384706 [06:42] it's ridiculously hard to reproduce and investigate, unfortunately :/ [06:44] pitti: http://vmiklos.hu/blog/so-many-bugs.html <- backside of t-shirt applies [06:44] Sweet5hark: ^5s [07:35] grrrr, firefox had some issues yesterday and nucked my password/login db it seems [07:36] chrisccoulson, ^ is there a backup on disk somewhere that I can use for those cases? [07:37] seb128: eek, no backup? [07:37] pitti, backups but not from the full userdir and not from .mozilla... [07:50] o/ [07:51] hey willcooke [07:52] morning willcooke! [07:54] hey willcooke [08:02] xmir is fixed! [08:02] meow [08:04] happyaron, thanks for your email. I will read it and digest today [08:05] happyaron, How was Scotland btw? === greyback__ is now known as greyback === JMulholland_ is now known as JMulholland === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:05] /quit === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:42] willcooke, hi [13:17] instellen slaapstand scherm [13:20] ok, all tests are finally passing again [13:20] * didrocks goes for a run [13:28] didrocks, enjoy! [14:52] man [14:52] what is this u-s-d media-keys race [15:05] Laney: around for at least a cycle [15:06] I didn't say it was new [15:06] irritating though [15:06] yeah, didn't get any useful debug IIRC [15:07] and didn't reproduce when running u-s-d in debug mode [15:07] I guess a typical heisenbug [15:07] you add debug, it slows it down enough to not get the race [15:08] is that when u-s-d starts before compiz? [15:08] or the other way around? [15:08] or nothing to do with that? [15:17] hmm [15:17] could be a race there [15:17] don't know if that causes this though [15:18] the way it's supposed to work is for compiz to do the grabbing and send the events to u-s-d over dbus and u-s-d triggers the actions [15:19] when you get the bug, does hitting the key generate the dbus events? [15:19] of it does the issue is on the u-s-d side [15:19] if it doesn't it's compiz/unity [15:20] org.gnome.Shell AcceleratorActivated happens [15:20] so u-s-d issue I guess [15:20] none of the shortcuts are working? [15:21] doesn't seem so [15:21] did u-s-d possibly crash? [15:21] nah [15:21] because then compiz would keep the grabs [15:21] oh, in the past? [15:21] yeah [15:21] umm [15:22] attente, compiz having the grab would be fine? [15:22] it's supposed to work this way no? [15:22] compiz grab and send the dbus messages [15:22] and u-s-d listen to dbus and call the callbacks? [15:22] yeah, but if u-s-d crashes, the new instance of u-s-d would re-register new grabs, but the older grabs compiz already has takes priority iirc [15:23] why is u-s-d registering grabs? [15:23] I though compiz was the one grabbing [15:24] i mean u-s-d registering grabs with compiz [15:24] over dbus [15:24] org.gnome.Shell.GrabAccelerator[s] [15:24] how is that working? I though compiz was grabbing the key and just sending on dbus org.gnome.Shell.AcceleratorActivated [15:25] that any u-s-d running instance would listen to [15:25] yeah, but it would be sending the old accelerator id [15:25] that the crashed u-s-d registered [15:25] oh, I didn't know they had changing ids [15:25] the new u-s-d wouldn't know the old u-s-d's ids [15:25] I though each action had a fix enum type number [15:25] unless i'm not remembering properly [15:26] I don't know the details of that protocol [15:26] I just had a remote look at the time you guys did the change [15:26] you are probably right :-) [15:27] Laney, since when is u-s-d running for you (compared to unity) [15:28] can't check, sorry, I restarted it [15:28] attente: if I get compiz to ungrab those IDs should it start working again? [15:29] Laney: yeah, ungrab over d-bus, then restart u-s-d should work [15:29] it grabs it again [15:30] :| === EphraimB is now known as EphraimMB [16:23] What is Unity 8 up to now? Any screenshots? === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [17:10] EphraimMB, desktop or phone ones? you can probably easily google for some [17:10] happyaron, bug #1380982 is the most reported vivid e.u.c issue, is that something you are looking at? [17:10] bug 1380982 in ibus (Ubuntu) "ibus-ui-gtk3 crashed with SIGABRT in g_assertion_message()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1380982 [17:10] Desktop [17:45] willcooke, I had a concurrent session during the unity8 showoff [17:45] anything sexy I miss? [17:46] jcastro, I wasnt there either - too many concurrent sessions :) [17:46] maybe mzanetti knows? ^^ [17:46] guess we could just watch the video [17:46] I just need a package name and/or PPA, heh [17:47] oh yeah, you did miss something cool :D === JanC_ is now known as JanC [18:29] seb128: sorry, nope, getting something hard to handle with willc === benedikt_ is now known as Streamstormer