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daftykinsdamn we have a pair of jokers in this evening00:39
EriC^^hehe00:41
EriC^^yeah00:41
EriC^^insit.00:42
EriC^^:P00:42
lotuspsychjemorning to all05:27
lotuspsychjehttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/05/new-ubuntu-laptops-available-from-ebuyer-2-205:32
lordievaderGood morning.08:51
BluesKajHi folks11:25
lordievadero/11:29
lotuspsychjehi BluesKaj and lordievader12:15
lotuspsychjewhat you guys think of this:12:16
lotuspsychjehttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/05/new-ubuntu-laptops-available-from-ebuyer-2-212:16
lordievaderHey lotuspsychje12:16
lordievaderSpecs are a bit disappointing.12:17
lotuspsychjecheap hp indeed, but prices are good no?12:17
lotuspsychjeand atheros wifi chipset isnt my dream scenario either :p12:18
lordievaderThey are a bit cheaper (about 100 euros).12:19
lotuspsychjei think with intel wifi and samsung pro 850 ssd, those machines would rock12:20
BluesKajthe specs are only slightly disappointing for the price points IMO, if they offerd intel cpu and graphics instead of amd then they'd be spot on.12:20
BluesKajand BCM wifi12:21
lotuspsychjeyeah12:21
lotuspsychjewell i dont like broadcom chipsets neither12:21
lordievaderThe only Broadcom I have supports master mode, quite happy with that :)12:23
BluesKajI paid $500 Canadian in Dec 2013 for a Lenovo G500 with intel i3 and their gpu with BCM wifi and I'm very happy with it's performance12:23
lotuspsychjemy broadcom keeps dropping wifi12:24
lotuspsychjeno matter wich firmware/driver i try12:24
BluesKajhaven't had a problelm with the BCM4313 driver wise on Kubuntu12:24
lotuspsychjeon a cheap aspire one netbook that is12:25
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: wich module loaded for you?12:26
lotuspsychjehere's mine:12:26
lotuspsychje*-network12:26
lotuspsychje       description: Wireless interface12:26
lotuspsychje       product: BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter12:26
lotuspsychje       vendor: Broadcom Corporation12:26
lotuspsychje       physical id: 012:26
lotuspsychje       bus info: pci@0000:07:00.012:26
lotuspsychje       logical name: wlan112:26
lotuspsychje       version: 0112:26
lotuspsychje       serial: 38:59:f9:4f:cd:d712:26
lotuspsychje       width: 64 bits12:26
lordievader!paste12:26
ubot5For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.12:26
lotuspsychje       clock: 33MHz12:26
lotuspsychje       capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless12:26
lotuspsychje       configuration: broadcast=yes driver=wl0 driverversion=6.30.223.248 (r487574) ip=192.168.1.2 latency=0 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11abg12:26
lotuspsychje       resources: irq:19 memory:f0100000-f0103fff12:26
BluesKajlotuspsychje, what command generated that output?12:28
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: sudo lshw -C network12:28
BluesKaj pastebin.ca/299724512:32
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: think you got a wrong paste12:33
lotuspsychjeah nvm12:33
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: also same driver=wl0 driverversion=6.30.223.248 (r48757412:34
lotuspsychjemy wifi drops out every 5min i have to recconect, but strange thing is irc keeps connected12:35
lordievaderlotuspsychje: Irc has a rather long timeout ;)12:37
lotuspsychjeyeah that might be it12:37
lotuspsychjesyslog and dmesg show nothing usefull on my wifi drops either..12:37
lotuspsychjeits weird12:38
BluesKajlotuspsychje, then i suspect you have a network manager indicator problem ..perhaps you're wifi isn't dropping out at all12:38
lordievaderlotuspsychje: wpa_supplicant \o/12:38
lordievaderGet down to the nitty gritty :D12:38
lotuspsychjehmm that sounds logic12:38
lotuspsychjebbl guys12:39
BluesKajgreetings cfhowlett13:04
cfhowlettBluesKaj, yowza^213:04
BluesKajwhat's up ?13:05
lotuspsychjecfhowlett: nihao!13:11
cfhowlettlotuspsychje, greetings!13:11
lotuspsychjecfhowlett: did you see new omgubuntu article: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/05/new-ubuntu-laptops-available-from-ebuyer-2-213:14
cfhowlettlotuspsychje, I did see that.  I still prefer to avoid AMD stuff ...13:15
lotuspsychjeyeah i know its rather cheap stuff, but its HP13:15
lotuspsychjeand its cheap :p13:16
lordievaderHP has two lines of laptops that are excellent.13:16
lotuspsychjelordievader: wich ones?13:16
lordievaderThe Probook and Elitebook lines.13:16
lordievaderNone of that crappy plastic stuff.13:16
lotuspsychjeill keep that in mind for the future13:16
lotuspsychjenever had an email back from hp : (13:17
cfhowlettI want to like and trust HP but ...13:18
lotuspsychjebut?13:18
cfhowlettMy one and only laptop crapout was an hp/compaq.  bad taste in mouth remains.13:19
lotuspsychje:p13:19
lotuspsychjeablest1980: howdy13:48
lotuspsychjeablest1980: set to your favs :p13:48
ablest1980lotuspsychje howdy13:49
ablest1980done13:49
ablest1980XP13:49
lotuspsychjecool13:49
ablest1980i was just playing cs i said to them bbl i uninstall cs and steam lol13:50
lotuspsychjeokay13:50
ablest1980do you play chess?13:51
lotuspsychjeno i play Go online13:51
lotuspsychjedont like chess too much13:51
ablest1980ok13:51
lotuspsychjei was an oldskool gamer13:52
lotuspsychjesof2 back in the days :p13:52
ablest1980i had that game13:52
ablest1980i mostly play rtcw then13:52
lotuspsychjecool13:52
lotuspsychjeplayed a lot of UT2003 also13:53
ablest1980cool13:53
BluesKajyeah, I had an acer laptop with amd processorsand it ran ok till it physically fell apart after 3 yrs ...learned my lesson, it was inexpensive ...pay the extra 100bucks or so for better quality13:53
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: thats smart indeed, invest in better hardware13:53
ablest1980i order ram from amazon im waiting confirmation of shipment13:54
BluesKajlotuspsychje, for sure13:54
lotuspsychjethats the reason i like those samsung ssd's13:54
BluesKajablest1980, I'm very happy with the RAM deal i got on Amazon13:55
ablest1980XD13:55
lotuspsychjeok showertime here13:55
lotuspsychjebbl13:55
ablest1980ok13:56
lotuspsychjesee u tonightz13:56
ablest1980ok13:56
BluesKajupped our old desktops from 4 to 6G each...definitely makes a difference13:56
ablest1980ill be 4 to 8gb13:56
ablest1980two 4gb13:57
BluesKajablest1980, right13:57
BluesKajthat little bit extra headroom in our case13:58
ablest1980XD13:59
ablest1980hello how do i use gnome after installation15:49
ablest1980!gnome15:50
ubot5GNOME was the default desktop environment on Ubuntu up to 10.10. To install the GNOME Shell, type [ sudo apt-get install gnome-shell ] in a !terminal. For the GNOME-based !flavor of Ubuntu, see !ubuntu-gnome15:50
ablest1980!ubuntu-gnome15:52
ubot5Ubuntu GNOME is a supported !flavor of Ubuntu that uses !GNOME as the default desktop environment instead of Unity. For more info or to download, see http://www.ubuntugnome.org/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/OneStopPage15:52
lordievaderablest1980: Support is in #ubuntu ;)15:52
ablest1980oops wrong room15:52
ablest1980lol15:52
ablest1980eric only thing change was login screen it gnome now but after system logo i see purple screen purple passphrase screen and purple desktop wallpaper17:11
ablest1980oops17:11
ablest1980wrong channel17:11
lotuspsychje:p17:11
ablest1980wb17:11
lotuspsychjetnx17:11
lotuspsychjeeric is in this channel sometimes also17:12
lotuspsychjehe also might forget to add to favs17:12
ablest1980XD17:13
ablest1980i installed gnome17:13
ablest1980i still see some unity though17:13
ablest1980do you know how to fix this?17:17
daftykinsablest1980: this is not the support channel, so please don't use it as such.17:25
ablest1980ok17:25
* daftykins looks at the topic17:26
lotuspsychjeOerHeks: ellow :p17:39
OerHekshoi lotus17:40
lotuspsychjehow was openstack17:40
OerHeksNice presentation :-)17:40
lotuspsychjewhat they say about snappy?17:40
OerHekshttps://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6885560/2015-Openstack-amsterdam.JPG17:41
lotuspsychjelets c :p17:41
OerHeksNothing about snappy, just MAAS, JUJU, CHEF, Openstack17:41
lotuspsychjemarkyyyy :p17:41
OerHeks:-D17:41
lotuspsychjeinteresting?17:41
OerHeksAnd me https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6885560/2015-Vondelpark-boompje.JPG17:41
lotuspsychjecool pic17:42
lotuspsychjedutch speakers also?17:42
OerHeksVondelpark, long time beeing there.17:42
OerHeksVery few, allwas in English17:43
lotuspsychjekk17:43
lotuspsychjedaftykins: did you see those on omgubuntu? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/05/new-ubuntu-laptops-available-from-ebuyer-2-217:43
* OerHeks seen that, awesome17:43
lotuspsychjeOerHeks: how many hours presentation?17:44
OerHeks9:30-11:4517:44
lotuspsychjenot so bad then17:44
OerHeks50 km trip on my bicycle17:45
lotuspsychjewow17:45
lotuspsychjeyou had to waky waky at 5?17:45
OerHeks6, on the bike on 717:45
lotuspsychjenice ride :p17:45
daftykinslotuspsychje: yeah, super low end craptops though17:46
OerHeksGoing by bus/train didn't save me time.17:46
lotuspsychjedaftykins: yeah but very cheap and ubuntu!17:46
daftykinsAMD :(17:46
lotuspsychjeOerHeks: good ol bike is the best :p17:46
lotuspsychjedaftykins: i know mate, but better this then a craptop chromebook17:47
daftykins:D17:47
lotuspsychjeif you go intel i3 or i5 that will turn the price up17:47
OerHeksAMD A10 is not that bad.17:47
lotuspsychjei think if you plugin samsung 850 pro in those laptops, they will rock17:48
daftykinsebuyer are still doing the Lenovo B50-70 that i got for £208 delivered with a free inkjet printer 0o17:49
lotuspsychjelol17:49
lotuspsychjecheap stuff17:49
daftykins£21 to double the RAM to 8GB, then pop in an SSD and weeeee17:49
daftykinsonly downside is 15" but still 1366x76817:49
daftykinsi really can't stand that res anymore17:50
lotuspsychjenetbook res :p17:50
daftykinsmmm not quite so bad17:50
daftykinstrue netbooks were more 1024x600 iirc17:50
lotuspsychjeoh right17:50
lotuspsychjelotuspsychje@R00TB0X:~$ xrandr --current17:53
lotuspsychjeScreen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1366 x 768, maximum 8192 x 819217:53
lotuspsychjeLVDS connected primary 1366x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 256mm x 144mm17:53
lotuspsychje   1366x768       60.0*+17:53
lotuspsychjemy acer aspire one netbook :p17:53
daftykinsi did get an 11" Asus one for an ex that was this res too, pretty sure it was the minority though17:55
lotuspsychjehi daffykans!17:59
* daftykins is now known as daffykans18:00
lotuspsychjewahaha18:00
lotuspsychjethats for all your good support18:00
daftykinsi think my other favourite was draftykins18:00
daftykinsvery apt in winter18:00
lotuspsychjelolz18:00
=== JanC_ is now known as JanC
daftykinsthis guys general idiocy is angering me19:41
daftykins"it dun work, halp" =|19:41
daftykinssometimes they lure you in with minor config edits, then suddenly you're neck deep in package management woes D:20:06
OerHeksfirst "VividVervet> I was having trouble mounting Windows partition in read only mode. " now it readonly ...20:24

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