[00:39] <daftykins> damn we have a pair of jokers in this evening
[00:41] <EriC^^> hehe
[00:41] <EriC^^> yeah
[00:42] <EriC^^> insit.
[00:42] <EriC^^> :P
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/05/new-ubuntu-laptops-available-from-ebuyer-2-2
[08:51] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:25] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:29] <lordievader> o/
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> hi BluesKaj and lordievader
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> what you guys think of this:
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/05/new-ubuntu-laptops-available-from-ebuyer-2-2
[12:16] <lordievader> Hey lotuspsychje
[12:17] <lordievader> Specs are a bit disappointing.
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> cheap hp indeed, but prices are good no?
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> and atheros wifi chipset isnt my dream scenario either :p
[12:19] <lordievader> They are a bit cheaper (about 100 euros).
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> i think with intel wifi and samsung pro 850 ssd, those machines would rock
[12:20] <BluesKaj> the specs are only slightly disappointing for the price points IMO, if they offerd intel cpu and graphics instead of amd then they'd be spot on.
[12:21] <BluesKaj> and BCM wifi
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> well i dont like broadcom chipsets neither
[12:23] <lordievader> The only Broadcom I have supports master mode, quite happy with that :)
[12:23] <BluesKaj> I paid $500 Canadian in Dec 2013 for a Lenovo G500 with intel i3 and their gpu with BCM wifi and I'm very happy with it's performance
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> my broadcom keeps dropping wifi
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> no matter wich firmware/driver i try
[12:24] <BluesKaj> haven't had a problelm with the BCM4313 driver wise on Kubuntu
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> on a cheap aspire one netbook that is
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: wich module loaded for you?
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> here's mine:
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> *-network
[12:26] <lotuspsychje>        description: Wireless interface
[12:26] <lotuspsychje>        product: BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter
[12:26] <lotuspsychje>        vendor: Broadcom Corporation
[12:26] <lotuspsychje>        physical id: 0
[12:26] <lotuspsychje>        bus info: pci@0000:07:00.0
[12:26] <lotuspsychje>        logical name: wlan1
[12:26] <lotuspsychje>        version: 01
[12:26] <lotuspsychje>        serial: 38:59:f9:4f:cd:d7
[12:26] <lotuspsychje>        width: 64 bits
[12:26] <lordievader> !paste
[12:26] <ubot5> For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[12:26] <lotuspsychje>        clock: 33MHz
[12:26] <lotuspsychje>        capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless
[12:26] <lotuspsychje>        configuration: broadcast=yes driver=wl0 driverversion=6.30.223.248 (r487574) ip=192.168.1.2 latency=0 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11abg
[12:26] <lotuspsychje>        resources: irq:19 memory:f0100000-f0103fff
[12:28] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, what command generated that output?
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: sudo lshw -C network
[12:32] <BluesKaj>  pastebin.ca/2997245
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: think you got a wrong paste
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> ah nvm
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: also same driver=wl0 driverversion=6.30.223.248 (r487574
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> my wifi drops out every 5min i have to recconect, but strange thing is irc keeps connected
[12:37] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: Irc has a rather long timeout ;)
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> yeah that might be it
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> syslog and dmesg show nothing usefull on my wifi drops either..
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> its weird
[12:38] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, then i suspect you have a network manager indicator problem ..perhaps you're wifi isn't dropping out at all
[12:38] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: wpa_supplicant \o/
[12:38] <lordievader> Get down to the nitty gritty :D
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> hmm that sounds logic
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> bbl guys
[13:04] <BluesKaj> greetings cfhowlett
[13:04] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, yowza^2
[13:05] <BluesKaj> what's up ?
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: nihao!
[13:11] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, greetings!
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: did you see new omgubuntu article: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/05/new-ubuntu-laptops-available-from-ebuyer-2-2
[13:15] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, I did see that.  I still prefer to avoid AMD stuff ...
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> yeah i know its rather cheap stuff, but its HP
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> and its cheap :p
[13:16] <lordievader> HP has two lines of laptops that are excellent.
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: wich ones?
[13:16] <lordievader> The Probook and Elitebook lines.
[13:16] <lordievader> None of that crappy plastic stuff.
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> ill keep that in mind for the future
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> never had an email back from hp : (
[13:18] <cfhowlett> I want to like and trust HP but ...
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> but?
[13:19] <cfhowlett> My one and only laptop crapout was an hp/compaq.  bad taste in mouth remains.
[13:19] <lotuspsychje> :p
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> ablest1980: howdy
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> ablest1980: set to your favs :p
[13:49] <ablest1980> lotuspsychje howdy
[13:49] <ablest1980> done
[13:49] <ablest1980> XP
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> cool
[13:50] <ablest1980> i was just playing cs i said to them bbl i uninstall cs and steam lol
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> okay
[13:51] <ablest1980> do you play chess?
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> no i play Go online
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> dont like chess too much
[13:51] <ablest1980> ok
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> i was an oldskool gamer
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> sof2 back in the days :p
[13:52] <ablest1980> i had that game
[13:52] <ablest1980> i mostly play rtcw then
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> cool
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> played a lot of UT2003 also
[13:53] <ablest1980> cool
[13:53] <BluesKaj> yeah, I had an acer laptop with amd processorsand it ran ok till it physically fell apart after 3 yrs ...learned my lesson, it was inexpensive ...pay the extra 100bucks or so for better quality
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: thats smart indeed, invest in better hardware
[13:54] <ablest1980> i order ram from amazon im waiting confirmation of shipment
[13:54] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, for sure
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> thats the reason i like those samsung ssd's
[13:55] <BluesKaj> ablest1980, I'm very happy with the RAM deal i got on Amazon
[13:55] <ablest1980> XD
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> ok showertime here
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[13:56] <ablest1980> ok
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> see u tonightz
[13:56] <ablest1980> ok
[13:56] <BluesKaj> upped our old desktops from 4 to 6G each...definitely makes a difference
[13:56] <ablest1980> ill be 4 to 8gb
[13:57] <ablest1980> two 4gb
[13:57] <BluesKaj> ablest1980, right
[13:58] <BluesKaj> that little bit extra headroom in our case
[13:59] <ablest1980> XD
[15:49] <ablest1980> hello how do i use gnome after installation
[15:50] <ablest1980> !gnome
[15:50] <ubot5> GNOME was the default desktop environment on Ubuntu up to 10.10. To install the GNOME Shell, type [ sudo apt-get install gnome-shell ] in a !terminal. For the GNOME-based !flavor of Ubuntu, see !ubuntu-gnome
[15:52] <ablest1980> !ubuntu-gnome
[15:52] <ubot5> Ubuntu GNOME is a supported !flavor of Ubuntu that uses !GNOME as the default desktop environment instead of Unity. For more info or to download, see http://www.ubuntugnome.org/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/OneStopPage
[15:52] <lordievader> ablest1980: Support is in #ubuntu ;)
[15:52] <ablest1980> oops wrong room
[15:52] <ablest1980> lol
[17:11] <ablest1980> eric only thing change was login screen it gnome now but after system logo i see purple screen purple passphrase screen and purple desktop wallpaper
[17:11] <ablest1980> oops
[17:11] <ablest1980> wrong channel
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> :p
[17:11] <ablest1980> wb
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> eric is in this channel sometimes also
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> he also might forget to add to favs
[17:13] <ablest1980> XD
[17:13] <ablest1980> i installed gnome
[17:13] <ablest1980> i still see some unity though
[17:17] <ablest1980> do you know how to fix this?
[17:25] <daftykins> ablest1980: this is not the support channel, so please don't use it as such.
[17:25] <ablest1980> ok
[17:26]  * daftykins looks at the topic
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: ellow :p
[17:40] <OerHeks> hoi lotus
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> how was openstack
[17:40] <OerHeks> Nice presentation :-)
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> what they say about snappy?
[17:41] <OerHeks> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6885560/2015-Openstack-amsterdam.JPG
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> lets c :p
[17:41] <OerHeks> Nothing about snappy, just MAAS, JUJU, CHEF, Openstack
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> markyyyy :p
[17:41] <OerHeks> :-D
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> interesting?
[17:41] <OerHeks> And me https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6885560/2015-Vondelpark-boompje.JPG
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> cool pic
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> dutch speakers also?
[17:42] <OerHeks> Vondelpark, long time beeing there.
[17:43] <OerHeks> Very few, allwas in English
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> kk
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: did you see those on omgubuntu? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/05/new-ubuntu-laptops-available-from-ebuyer-2-2
[17:43]  * OerHeks seen that, awesome
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: how many hours presentation?
[17:44] <OerHeks> 9:30-11:45
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> not so bad then
[17:45] <OerHeks> 50 km trip on my bicycle
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> wow
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> you had to waky waky at 5?
[17:45] <OerHeks> 6, on the bike on 7
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> nice ride :p
[17:46] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: yeah, super low end craptops though
[17:46] <OerHeks> Going by bus/train didn't save me time.
[17:46] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: yeah but very cheap and ubuntu!
[17:46] <daftykins> AMD :(
[17:46] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: good ol bike is the best :p
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: i know mate, but better this then a craptop chromebook
[17:47] <daftykins> :D
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> if you go intel i3 or i5 that will turn the price up
[17:47] <OerHeks> AMD A10 is not that bad.
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> i think if you plugin samsung 850 pro in those laptops, they will rock
[17:49] <daftykins> ebuyer are still doing the Lenovo B50-70 that i got for £208 delivered with a free inkjet printer 0o
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> lol
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> cheap stuff
[17:49] <daftykins> £21 to double the RAM to 8GB, then pop in an SSD and weeeee
[17:49] <daftykins> only downside is 15" but still 1366x768
[17:50] <daftykins> i really can't stand that res anymore
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> netbook res :p
[17:50] <daftykins> mmm not quite so bad
[17:50] <daftykins> true netbooks were more 1024x600 iirc
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> oh right
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> lotuspsychje@R00TB0X:~$ xrandr --current
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1366 x 768, maximum 8192 x 8192
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> LVDS connected primary 1366x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 256mm x 144mm
[17:53] <lotuspsychje>    1366x768       60.0*+
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> my acer aspire one netbook :p
[17:55] <daftykins> i did get an 11" Asus one for an ex that was this res too, pretty sure it was the minority though
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> hi daffykans!
[18:00]  * daftykins is now known as daffykans
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> wahaha
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> thats for all your good support
[18:00] <daftykins> i think my other favourite was draftykins
[18:00] <daftykins> very apt in winter
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> lolz
=== JanC_ is now known as JanC
[19:41] <daftykins> this guys general idiocy is angering me
[19:41] <daftykins> "it dun work, halp" =|
[20:06] <daftykins> sometimes they lure you in with minor config edits, then suddenly you're neck deep in package management woes D:
[20:24] <OerHeks> first "VividVervet> I was having trouble mounting Windows partition in read only mode. " now it readonly ...