| cmaloney | +1 | 00:33 |
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| ColonelPanic001 | I forgot aisrael was in here | 13:18 |
| ColonelPanic001 | hi Adam | 13:18 |
| aisrael | Hey hey! | 13:18 |
| ColonelPanic001 | crap, is flavio in here too? | 13:18 |
| ColonelPanic001 | can we have a TrafficEngine reunion? | 13:19 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I forgot his nick, arg. I'd know it if I saw it though, probably. | 13:19 |
| _stink_ | --> n0p | 13:19 |
| ColonelPanic001 | crap, I thought so, then thought it was longer before | 13:19 |
| _stink_ | n000000000000p | 13:20 |
| ColonelPanic001 | n0p3 | 13:20 |
| n0p | :lol: sup guys | 13:21 |
| ColonelPanic001 | hi | 13:22 |
| n0p | my email alert thingy still works \o/ | 13:22 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I like when my thingys work | 13:22 |
| ColonelPanic001 | thingys. thingies. whichever looks slightly less absurd. | 13:22 |
| n0p | whats the tl;dr on http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2600-1/ | 13:24 |
| n0p | haven't looked at it yet | 13:25 |
| jrwren | n0p: local attacker, so not a remote issue. | 13:26 |
| jrwren | n0p: i don't know about you, but I haven't managed systems where local users couldn't sudo to root in many years. | 13:26 |
| jrwren | n0p: also, that is utopic. Most folks use LTS for production. | 13:26 |
| n0p | jrwren: :thumbsup: i got a bunch of alerts, thought i saw 14.04, may have grabbed wrong link | 13:27 |
| n0p | jrwren: concurl on the local users, just wasn't sure if it was something that could be exploited through local user: www-data | 13:28 |
| n0p | jrwren: but thanks for the info | 13:28 |
| n0p | s/concurl/concur/ | 13:28 |
| n0p | http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2598-1/ | 13:30 |
| n0p | filed under "walk don't run" | 13:30 |
| jrwren | oh, it got a different USN | 13:31 |
| jrwren | that is, kind of annoying. | 13:31 |
| n0p | yeah, got small handful of the same message different versions | 13:31 |
| n0p | guess in case the fix is different per release ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 13:32 |
| n0p | after all the ssl activity in the last 12 months, getting used to "jump on alerts" mode | 13:33 |
| n0p | jrwren: sounds like a SEM.js on Monday @Nutshell, you going? | 13:34 |
| jrwren | yeah, and I wonder if hosting providers are scrambling. | 13:34 |
| jrwren | n0p: yes, I plan to be there. 2 yr anniversary. | 13:34 |
| jrwren | last year the lightning talks were REALLY GOOD | 13:34 |
| n0p | yeah, i haven't looked at the lineup this time | 13:35 |
| n0p | I've been so busy, missing lots of stuff, kinda nice that we have them here, kinda a built in "will attend" | 13:35 |
| jrwren | that is what a lot of the folks at Arbor said when tehy used to meet at arbor. | 13:37 |
| n0p | jrwren: you aware of this: http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20150222/NEWS/302229974/investors-see-downtown-ann-arbor-as-hub-for-tech-startups | 13:39 |
| n0p | pretty excited about it | 13:40 |
| cmaloney | Email subject for the day: Did you know the Prophecy when you were born | 13:40 |
| ColonelPanic001 | cmaloney was born in accordance with a prophecy | 13:41 |
| jrwren | n0p: nope. | 13:42 |
| * jrwren reads | 13:42 | |
| cmaloney | Oh this whole email is comedy gold | 13:43 |
| jrwren | n0p: which buildings are they buying? | 13:43 |
| cmaloney | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10997302/ | 13:44 |
| n0p | tbh, not sure what i can disclose, but they should be closing this month so more info can get out. they are close by to our place now | 13:45 |
| cmaloney | n0p: That's awesome | 13:45 |
| jrwren | hahaha, I remember walking by coolhouse labs last summer thinking "WTF?" because the 1000 person town harbor springs has no business having a tech startup :p | 13:45 |
| n0p | yeah, seems crazy | 13:45 |
| jrwren | I get the appeal. I want to work at a startup in harbor springs, at least in teh summer I do :) | 13:46 |
| brousch | Heh, I think little traverse bay still has ice on it | 13:48 |
| jrwren | NO WAY! | 13:48 |
| jrwren | ugh. | 13:48 |
| jrwren | well, I did say summer. :) That means July, Aug, Sept :) | 13:49 |
| brousch | http://blogs.woodtv.com/2015/05/06/71996/ | 13:49 |
| jrwren | now I want to be in Harbor Springs in August. | 13:49 |
| brousch | I look more at St. Joseph as where I'd like to be | 13:50 |
| jrwren | I've never been there. | 13:51 |
| jrwren | so close to benton harbor makes me think riots will break out. I must have the wrong impression. | 13:51 |
| brousch | Great beach, short train to chicago, in between my families in Niles and Grand Rapids | 13:51 |
| brousch | The river separates them, and they are two different worlds | 13:52 |
| jrwren | only an hour drive to Munster, IN. I'm sold. Vacation there next summer! | 13:53 |
| brousch | When I played baseball in high school we played St Joe and Benton Harbor. St Joe had the nicest stadium in the league, Benton Harbor had the worst | 13:53 |
| jrwren | ha! sounds like Pontiac and Bloomfield Hills for me. | 13:54 |
| brousch | It was essential a dirt lot, but the the dirt was sharp gravel | 13:54 |
| brousch | No grass at all | 13:54 |
| cmaloney | Sounds about right. | 13:54 |
| brousch | Also, there are a dozen wineries within about 30 minutes of St Joe | 13:55 |
| brousch | Good ones | 13:55 |
| aisrael | n0p: ! | 14:01 |
| cmaloney | I had not considered this | 14:01 |
| jrwren | brousch: breweries? | 14:07 |
| n0p | aisrael: hi! how are you? | 14:07 |
| aisrael | n0p: Hey man! Pretty good, you? | 14:08 |
| n0p | doing well | 14:08 |
| rick_h_ | aisrael: how was malta? you go diving with folks? | 14:08 |
| n0p | keeping very busy, work, kids | 14:08 |
| aisrael | rick_h_: Malta was pretty cool. Lots of history there. I wish I'd stayed over an extra day to take a tour. No diving for me, though. | 14:09 |
| aisrael | n0p: Good to hear! | 14:10 |
| n0p | aisrael: how has CA life been? pets? wife? (all good I hope) | 14:14 |
| ColonelPanic001 | Malta, there's an interesting one | 14:14 |
| jrwren | The pics I saw of Malta were beautiful. | 14:15 |
| jrwren | I wonder if the beer was better than Nuremberg | 14:15 |
| aisrael | n0p: Oh yeah, everything's going pretty great. Got my permanent residence, mostly settled in (about a half hour from the border), and working with jcastro and like, a fifth of the channel it seems. :D | 14:16 |
| cmaloney | heh | 14:16 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I dind't realize you were working there now, nice | 14:17 |
| aisrael | ColonelPanic001: Yep! Since last August. | 14:18 |
| brousch | jrwren: I'm not sure. I've only been to The Round Barn which is maybe 25mins from there | 14:18 |
| jrwren | new retirement idea: open a brewery in St. Joseph | 14:19 |
| brousch | I see one on Google maps, but I'd think there should be 2 or3 | 14:20 |
| ColonelPanic001 | aisrael: congrats | 14:20 |
| brousch | But I may be biased by the density of things in GR | 14:20 |
| jrwren | brousch: population 8365. 1 brewery is probably enough. | 14:22 |
| brousch | The one I found is technically in Benton Harbor | 14:23 |
| jrwren | Greenbush!!! | 14:24 |
| jrwren | sawyer is what? 10min down i94? | 14:25 |
| brousch | Maybe 15 | 14:27 |
| jrwren | I love greenbush. | 14:27 |
| brousch | I don't think I've tried any of theirs | 14:28 |
| jrwren | O_O | 14:28 |
| jrwren | Greenbush is cool because each of their beers is different than the usual. They don't do anything standard. | 14:29 |
| cmaloney | brousch: How is the Beer Barrel Bourbon from New Holland? | 14:29 |
| brousch | I just ran out of beer. I'll have to get some tonight | 14:29 |
| * cmaloney saw it at Meijer and was sorely tempted. | 14:29 | |
| jrwren | cmaloney: its good. | 14:29 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: but nothing too special I'd say. | 14:29 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: What's the closest bourbon you'd compare it with? | 14:30 |
| brousch | I need one of these beer apps so I can keep track of what I've tried | 14:30 |
| cmaloney | Is it $30 special? | 14:30 |
| cmaloney | 'cause $30 buys a lot of nice scotch. ;) | 14:30 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: its hard for me to say. I really like Bulleit and I'd choose Bulleit over it 99% of the time. | 14:30 |
| cmaloney | How about Maker's Mark? | 14:30 |
| jrwren | much better than maker's | 14:31 |
| cmaloney | That seems to be my go-to for Bourbon | 14:31 |
| brousch | Bummer, we dropped to #8 best beer city http://www.thrillist.com/drink/nation/best-beer-cities-in-america | 14:31 |
| cmaloney | brousch: That's unthinkable. | 14:31 |
| jrwren | kinda like a Knob Creek, maybe. IIRC | 14:31 |
| jrwren | that list is wrong. | 14:31 |
| cmaloney | OK, so not like a sour mash like Jack / Jim | 14:31 |
| jrwren | GR is #1 beer city. | 14:31 |
| jrwren | MI is #1 beer state. | 14:31 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: NOOOO | 14:31 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: its definitely a sipping bourbon | 14:32 |
| cmaloney | ++ | 14:32 |
| brousch | Well the cities that are ahead of us are quite a bit larger | 14:32 |
| jrwren | pfff.. NYC, SF, this is list stupid. | 14:32 |
| cmaloney | OK, will have to give it a try | 14:32 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, it's pretty silly. | 14:32 |
| cmaloney | Seems like one of those lists that's guaranteed to get clicks for being wrong | 14:33 |
| cmaloney | or confrontationall | 14:33 |
| jrwren | yup | 14:33 |
| jrwren | I guess if you don't include west mi breweries in the GR list, then maybe GR isn't great. | 14:34 |
| jrwren | but if you include all west MI breweries... no other place compares IMO | 14:34 |
| cmaloney | well, considering we have Bells the rest of the list is irrelevant. | 14:34 |
| cmaloney | It's like comparing potato chips | 14:34 |
| jrwren | hehehe | 14:34 |
| cmaloney | Better Made. Game. Set. Match. | 14:34 |
| jrwren | I wish I liked better made, but sugar on potato chips? no TY | 14:34 |
| cmaloney | Get the Rainbow Darks | 14:35 |
| cmaloney | Sooo good | 14:35 |
| cmaloney | It's all the "burned chips" in one bag. | 14:35 |
| jrwren | i'll try 'em. | 14:35 |
| jrwren | sounds great. | 14:35 |
| cmaloney | they're a little more expensive | 14:35 |
| jrwren | $10 for a 12oz bag!!! http://www.amazon.com/Better-Made-Rainbow-fashioned-12-5-oz/dp/B008A8FKGI | 14:36 |
| cmaloney | about $4 a bag from Meijer | 14:36 |
| cmaloney | Amazon prices are stupid | 14:36 |
| cmaloney | They're probably $10 a bag in California | 14:36 |
| cmaloney | like the Price is Right prices on a can of creamed corn | 14:36 |
| jrwren | lol | 14:36 |
| brousch | Yeah, you need to look around the grand rapids area, not just in grand rapids | 14:36 |
| brousch | Although places like bells and greenbush are pretty far away | 14:37 |
| cmaloney | Again, Michigan is a beer state | 14:37 |
| brousch | More than an hour away | 14:37 |
| cmaloney | I'd pit us against any state, save Ohio | 14:37 |
| brousch | definitely | 14:37 |
| cmaloney | because Ohio has Great Lakes Brewing | 14:37 |
| cmaloney | May as well be in Michigan. ;) | 14:37 |
| greg-g | *coughs* Lagunitas *coughs* | 14:38 |
| greg-g | which that article probably lumped in with SF, but fuck that, Petaluma! | 14:38 |
| jrwren | What is the one up by Muskegon? | 14:38 |
| jrwren | grand haven, oddsides. | 14:40 |
| jrwren | mmm... oddsides. | 14:40 |
| cscheib | odd side has really good stuff | 15:34 |
| cscheib | jcastro: do you still pay for a cleaning service? what's that running you? | 15:45 |
| rick_h_ | cscheib: $135 every other week here | 15:50 |
| cscheib | rick_h_: what's your sqft? | 15:51 |
| jrwren | 50% of all my income and I still have to do at least half of the cleaning. :p | 15:51 |
| cscheib | haha | 15:51 |
| cscheib | my girlfriend thinks "cleaning the kitchen" consists of loading the dishes in the dishwasher... if it doesn't get loaded in a dishwasher, she won't clean it (that includes counters, stove top, pots/pans, baking sheets) | 15:52 |
| rick_h_ | cscheib: 1400 main floor & half that finished down stairs | 15:52 |
| jcastro | cscheib, jill pays for it, I'll ask her tonight | 15:52 |
| jcastro | it's not that bad though, it's worth every penny IMO | 15:53 |
| rick_h_ | +1 | 15:53 |
| cscheib | I already pay for dog waste removal and landscaping | 15:53 |
| cscheib | I figure I may as well go for the trifecta | 15:53 |
| rick_h_ | hah | 15:53 |
| cscheib | since I'm really bad about keeping up on house cleaning | 15:53 |
| jcastro | it's nice because your place is always presentable | 15:53 |
| cscheib | yea, that'd be nice | 15:54 |
| jrwren | cscheib: I knew a single guy around your age who also paid for cooking services | 15:57 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: cscheib I find the big thing is you have to pick up for the cleaners to come | 15:57 |
| rick_h_ | so it forces me to go through the house and do that | 15:57 |
| cscheib | I've actually gotten much better about picking up recently | 15:58 |
| cscheib | but... there's dog hair EVERYWHERE | 15:58 |
| rick_h_ | heh, the roomba helps with the pet hair in between cleaner visits | 15:58 |
| cscheib | jcastro knows what I'm talking about, I'm sure. beagle-ish breeds shed like a mofo | 15:58 |
| jcastro | nope | 15:58 |
| jcastro | not much | 15:58 |
| jcastro | some dander | 15:59 |
| jcastro | but he's clean | 15:59 |
| jcastro | well, compared to most dogs | 15:59 |
| rick_h_ | our lab is pretty good but she's doing her twice a year shed right now so :( | 15:59 |
| cscheib | I can run a swiffer through my house every 2 days or so and come up with a massive pile of hair | 16:00 |
| cmaloney | Might look into it for JoDee. | 16:18 |
| cmaloney | She swears a blue-streak every time | 16:18 |
| _stink_ | we pay $80 every two weeks for ours. | 16:20 |
| _stink_ | it maintains some level of sanity around here | 16:20 |
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