[04:43] <barrydk> More almal
[05:11] <Kilos> morning everyone
[05:35] <mazal> Morning everyone
[05:36] <barrydk> Mornig mazal how are you
[05:36] <Kilos> hi mazal  barrydk  
[05:36] <mazal> Ok thanx and you barrydk and Kilos ?
[05:36] <barrydk> Hi Kilos how are you
[05:37] <Kilos> good ty blowing data here
[05:37] <mazal> Blowing data ?
[05:38] <mazal> Oh , downloading ?
[05:38] <Kilos> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22519/membership-discussion/
[05:39] <barrydk> any action in there?
[05:39] <Kilos> its the video minutes of how to get more members
[05:40] <barrydk> oh not my type of movies
[05:47] <Kilos> ai!
[05:49] <Kilos> 90 m and i tick to see the irc page as well and lose the video
[05:50] <Kilos> mazal  hoekom so skaars
[05:55] <mazal> Kilos: besig met baie dinge
[05:56] <Kilos> ai!
[05:57] <Kilos> morning inetpro  spekko plustwo  
[06:13] <Kilos> hi andrewlsd  
[06:13] <andrewlsd> Hi Kilos, morning to ya
[06:14] <Kilos> hi Jacques_Stry  
[06:14] <Jacques_Stry> Morning
[06:52] <Kilos> hi pieter2627  
[06:52] <pieter2627> morning Kilos 
[06:54] <andrewlsd> Morning Jacques_Stry, pieter2627
[06:54] <pieter2627> hi andrewlsd 
[07:21] <Kilos> hi TinuvaMac  
[09:01] <stickyboy> Push to githubbbbb.
[09:01] <stickyboy> Kilos: ^^^
[09:01] <Kilos> hi stickyboy  
[09:06] <stickyboy> Kilos: Guten tag
[09:06] <Kilos> what ?
[09:10] <Kilos> wb CuttingEdge  
[09:10] <CuttingEdge> greetings
[09:12] <stickyboy> Kilos: It's German, br0
[09:12] <Kilos> i know man
[09:12] <Kilos> zehr gut?
[09:12] <stickyboy> Kilos: I don't speak German!
[09:13] <Kilos> i know that too
[09:13] <Kilos> hehe
[09:13] <Kilos> you well stickyboy  ?
[09:13] <stickyboy> Kilos: Yah, seated in a coffee shop pushing code to GitHubbbb.
[09:14] <Kilos> nice
[09:14] <stickyboy> Kilos: Working on stuff for our institute.
[09:14] <stickyboy> s/our/my/
[09:14] <Kilos> good , at least you are doing something constructive
[09:14] <stickyboy> Oh, and Tsega updated his GitHub profile pic with a pic of the shirt I gave him. w00t http://github.com/tsega
[09:15] <Kilos> you must fight him and say why isnt he with #ubuntu-africa or gone to the site and joined the mailing list
[09:16] <Kilos> i really struggle with you guys
[09:16] <stickyboy> Kilos: Tell me about it
[09:16] <stickyboy> hahaha
[09:17] <stickyboy> Kilos: Gotta go to lunch, bbl.
[09:17] <Kilos> ok
[09:37] <inetpro> good mornings
[09:37] <Kilos> hi inetpro  
[09:47] <Kilos> hi Private_User  you getting stuff going yet?
[09:48] <Kilos> oi
[09:51] <andrewlsd> o hi, Kilos
[09:51] <Kilos> hi there again
[09:51] <Kilos> hehe
[10:17] <mazal> Guys I need some info from the guys in the know. I am looking to maybe start a website. But I don't know where to start. Can someone point me in the right direction where to start investigating hosting options ?
[10:17] <mazal> Also , what app to use for the actual building. I can't code and never will , I need a WYSIWIG app that can build
[10:20] <andrewlsd> free website hosting link on its way
[10:21] <andrewlsd> yipes, my internet connection is slow
[10:21] <mazal> I heard a lot of wordpress , is that something good to try ?
[10:22] <CuttingEdge> wordpress is quite popular
[10:22] <mazal> K will invetigate that a bit
[10:22] <andrewlsd> wordpress.com will host it your [subdomain].wordpress.com gratis
[10:22] <mazal> kewl
[10:23] <mazal> Will check that out as a start thank you guys
[10:23] <andrewlsd> otherwise weebly.com
[10:24] <andrewlsd> and otherwise, FreeHostia.com
[10:24] <andrewlsd> ...  ^ that was the site I was thinking of http://www.freehostia.com/signup.html?plan=92
[10:24] <Kilos> also mazal  one year free at ec2 so you can practise
[10:24] <andrewlsd> +1 kilos
[10:26] <Kilos> sjoe what can you host on 250MB disk space? recipes
[10:38] <Kilos> oh i have a weebly site somewhere but didnt know what to do with it
[10:38] <Kilos> hmm...
[10:44] <pieter2627> mazal: what do you want to do with the site - or what should it be doing for you?
[10:49] <mazal> pieter2627: Information mostly bout events and such , thinking of making one for our church
[10:49] <mazal> So filled with info mostly
[10:49] <pieter2627> wordpress should be good then
[10:49] <mazal> Different sections such as events section , service notes sections etc
[10:50] <mazal> Photos section 
[10:50] <mazal> It will grow with idea as I continue
[10:51] <mazal> But basic with nothing flashy , I dislike flashy websites
[10:51] <mazal> I like easy to nafigate , easy to find info , no frills web sites
[10:51] <mazal> Last time I did this though was back in 2002 , lot have changed since then :P
[10:52] <Kilos> ya you got older
[10:52] <Kilos> :D
[10:52] <mazal> And dumber
[10:52] <Kilos> lol 
[10:52] <mazal> Don't learn so easy enymore , eys can't handle the screens anymore etc etc etc lol
[10:53] <Kilos> talk to mopkop when he gets back, he is writing exams atm but should be here withing a week or so
[10:53] <Kilos> he maintains his churches site
[10:54] <mazal> Most important is that the tool must be easy to use , my eyes seriously can't handle lots of typing and reading anymore
[10:54] <mazal> And I still have 18 years to go eeeeeeeek
[10:55] <pieter2627> wordpress is a CMS - you might want to read up on that to understand how it will work
[10:56] <mazal> k thanx
[10:57] <Kilos> sjoe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66wxCOCYt5Q
[10:57] <Kilos> die ballie is 20 jaar ouer as ek
[10:58] <Kilos> i think he is in durbs by the sea
[11:27] <mazal> I'm searhing for wordpress tutorials , but everyone I found so far is for blogging. That's not really what I want
[12:43] <mazal> Bye everyone , have a nice evening
[12:59] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee on
[12:59]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[12:59] <Kilos> Maaz  hurry
[12:59] <Maaz> Making decent coffee is an art Kilos and should never be rushed
[12:59] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee for all
[12:59] <Maaz> Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already
[13:00] <Kilos> forget coffee for all
[13:01] <Kilos> they are busy as usual
[13:01] <pieter2627> maaz coffee plase
[13:01] <Maaz> pieter2627: Sorry...
[13:01] <pieter2627> maaz coffee please
[13:01] <Maaz> pieter2627: Done
[13:01] <Kilos> lol
[13:01] <pieter2627> maaz with cake
[13:01] <Maaz> pieter2627: Huh?
[13:01] <Kilos> only rusks
[13:02] <pieter2627> oh which kind
[13:02] <Kilos> Maaz  rusks please
[13:02] <Maaz> behind the calender on top of the fridge, but dont tell everyone Kilos
[13:02] <Kilos> oumas of course
[13:02] <pieter2627> hmm
[13:02] <Kilos> doop n ouma doop n ouma
[13:02] <Kilos> buttermilk rusks
[13:02] <pieter2627> doop n ouma in jou coffee
[13:03]  * pieter2627 sings along
[13:03] <Kilos> ja jy leer gou
[13:03] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos and pieter2627!
[13:08] <Kilos> Maaz  gracias amigo
[13:08] <Maaz> ¡de nada compadre
[13:09] <pieter2627> Maaz thx
[13:09] <Maaz> pieter2627: *blink*
[13:09] <pieter2627> Maaz thanks
[13:09] <Maaz> pieter2627: Okay :-)
[14:33] <Kilos> hmm...
[16:14] <Kilos> sjoe die mense praat man
[16:14] <Kilos> oh my numbers dropping
[17:03] <georgelappies> hi Kilos
[17:04] <Kilos> hi georgelappies  
[17:04] <Kilos> i go eat
[17:04] <georgelappies> enjoy :D
[17:37] <Kilos> ty i did
[17:38] <Kilos> i dunno where everyone is tonight
[17:48] <Kilos> ohi superfly  
[17:53] <superfly> evening Kilos, georgelappies
[18:27] <Kilos> hi  spinza  kulelu88  
[18:33] <superfly> Yay, dark time. Not. 
[18:34] <kulelu88> o/
[18:35] <superfly> Yo kulelu88, how's it going? 
[18:36] <Kilos> superfly  hows the leave treating you?
[18:37] <kulelu88> great superfly . How are you?
[18:38] <kulelu88> Have you seen this language before: http://crystal-lang.org/ @ superfly 
[18:38] <superfly> Kilos: it'll better tomorrow I think 
[18:38] <superfly> kulelu88: nope. Will check it out 
[18:39] <kulelu88> very interesting language
[18:41] <superfly> kulelu88: I'm too used to my python indentation. Looking at languages which use "end" gives me the shivers 
[18:43] <kulelu88> superfly: I am dreaming of the day where we have a pythonic static language.
[18:43] <superfly> Isn't that what Go is supposed to be? The one from Google 
[18:44] <Tonberry> Go looks mostly like C
[18:44] <superfly> I'll be honest, I don't see the point of statically typed anymore 
[18:45] <Tonberry> Not even for large complicated projects with lots of people working on them?
[18:46] <superfly> Python is strongly typed enough that with good test coverage (which you should have anyway) you don't have much room for error. 
[18:46] <superfly> Tonberry: define large and complicated 
[18:47] <Tonberry> Ok fine my idea of large is 10 people so not really that large.
[18:48] <superfly> Tonberry: when you start working with bigger teams, tooling becomes more important than the language that your project is written in 
[18:49] <Tonberry> Maybe I have just been using Go for so long that I have forgotten what it feels like to not have a compiler help me along.
[18:49] <Kilos> wb inetpro  
[18:51] <superfly> I honestly haven't used it, so I really don't have an honest opinion on it. I use Python and C++ fairly extensively as part of my job, and Python always gets the job done faster with the same number of bugs. 
[18:52] <superfly> I've never noticed the Python being any buggier
[18:52] <superfly> But we are test driven, and even our embedded C has tests 
[18:56] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:10] <kulelu88> premature optimization will always be something people want. I tried to give Go a go but Crystal looks more interesting
[19:20] <magespawn> good evening
[19:23] <spinza> hey
[19:23] <spinza> In case you missed it: http://www.teslamotors.com/powerwall
[19:34] <stickyboy> spinza: Nice.
[19:35] <stickyboy> The keynote was fantastic. Musk is a down-to-Earth guy.
[19:40] <MaNI> I still don't see w hy everyone is ranting about this
[19:40] <MaNI> I mean its cool
[19:41] <MaNI> but its not really cheaper or better than other household options - its more compact but houses usually have space
[19:41] <MaNI> maybe I'm missing something
[19:48] <magespawn> MaNI: it is from Tesla, that maes it cool
[19:48] <magespawn> s/maes/makes
[19:49] <MaNI> well anything from musk is cool, I love him as much as anyone else
[19:49] <Tonberry> well with the wattage limit on those things it definitely won't get hot
[19:49] <MaNI> its just not as cool as some of his other stuff :p
[19:51] <kulelu88> what is the battery thing from tesla? I haven't bothered to check
[19:54] <MaNI> basically he is packaging the tesla car batteries in a sexy looking wall unit and marketing it to people as a way to be less grid dependant and save money on off peak rates
[19:54] <MaNI> so its like a 10 kwh or whatever battery for your house
[19:55] <stickyboy> Anyone can sell batteries
[19:55] <stickyboy> But Musk is like... he has a vision.
[19:55] <stickyboy> And he is disrupting several industries
[19:55] <stickyboy> Especially in the US.
[19:55] <stickyboy> And he is funding lots of research and then opening the patents to the public domain.
[19:55] <stickyboy> Pretty cool
[19:56] <spinza> MaNI: is it not cheaper?
[19:56] <MaNI> spinza, no
[19:56] <spinza> haven't investigated pricing?
[19:56] <MaNI> its costs about double the amount of the lead acid or whatever equivalent, but its way less ugly and takes up less space so thats a plus I guess
[19:57] <spinza> so the the same kwh cost less in traditional
[19:57] <spinza> ?
[19:57] <MaNI> yes, ine very price comparison I've seen so far
[19:57] <spinza> how's the maintenance of the traditional bats?
[19:57] <spinza> tesla = 10y warranty
[19:58] <MaNI> also about 10 years if the system is done right
[19:58] <Tonberry> the warranty is the nicest part in my opinion
[19:59] <MaNI> i.e. you buy double the lead acid batteries you need and don't discharge below 50% often (this is still cheaper by about 50%-60%) - although again only going on other peoples pricing that i've seen as I don't know USA prices well myself
[19:59] <MaNI> (its standard practive for solar though to use double capacity like that)
[19:59] <MaNI> *practice
[19:59] <Tonberry> don't forget to keep them at 25 deg C
[19:59] <Tonberry> or lower
[20:00] <MaNI> but yeah, I suppose the upper market segment maybe cares more about looks and size than pure price - so maybe he is on to something
[20:00] <Tonberry> then again temperature will probably do bad or worse things to lithiums
[20:00] <MaNI> he seems to get everything else right
[20:02] <MaNI> I'd like to see an honest attempt at nickle iron for houses :p
[20:03] <magespawn> apple style people
[20:04] <kulelu88> not everything the visionaries do sells. google sucked with glass. apple with watch
[20:04] <MaNI> people who can afford teslas, i.e. not me :P
[20:04] <kulelu88> and south africa is a fragment of a market 
[20:04] <magespawn> indeed, i would still like to get google glass myself
[20:04] <kulelu88> not even the sandton fanbois will go this far (if its like +50,000)
[20:05] <kulelu88> magespawn: buy 1 from china for 1/4 the price
[20:05] <magespawn> original?
[20:05] <kulelu88> no, but it should be a high-spec clone
[20:06] <magespawn> mmm sometimes it is better to go original
[20:06] <kulelu88> for $1000 hmmm
[20:13] <stickyboy> GraphicsMagick is so cool
[20:19] <magespawn> any body watch CSI Cyber?
[20:22] <magespawn> amaze balls
[20:23] <magespawn> i would love to meet their technical advisor, if they have one
[20:59] <magespawn> good night all