| jjfrv8 | Unit193, ochosi, I made a few tiny suggestions on the Core doc. Just some commas and a lowercase "d" (because it's not a new sentence). | 00:16 |
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| bluesabre | evening folks | 02:40 |
| Unit193 | Howdy, bluesabre. Archive open, syncy time? | 02:41 |
| bluesabre | pretty much | 02:41 |
| bluesabre | have the autosyncs started yet? | 02:41 |
| Unit193 | Don't bother with thunar yet. | 02:41 |
| Unit193 | Yep. | 02:41 |
| Unit193 | xfcegui4 won't sync though. | 02:41 |
| Unit193 | gtk-xfce-engine being out of your set? | 02:42 |
| bluesabre | yeah, thats outside of my set | 02:42 |
| bluesabre | gui4 has ubuntu so it wont sync | 02:42 |
| bluesabre | so I can sync that one :) | 02:42 |
| Unit193 | Yep. | 02:42 |
| Unit193 | -s unit193! :---D | 02:43 |
| bluesabre | http://paste.ubuntu.com/10994070/ | 02:44 |
| bluesabre | :D | 02:44 |
| * Unit193 wonders what bluesabre's using... | 02:45 | |
| bluesabre | packages.{debian|ubuntu} and a crappy crawler | 02:45 |
| Unit193 | https://sigma.unit193.net/~unit193/xfce412.html :D | 02:46 |
| bluesabre | :D | 02:46 |
| Unit193 | https://sigma.unit193.net/~unit193/xfce.html too, but don't think that's so much. | 02:46 |
| bluesabre | ubuntu tools seem to also crawl packages. | 02:47 |
| bluesabre | syncpackage: Error: Version in Debian 4.10.0-2 (unstable) isn't newer than Ubuntu 4.10.0-2ubuntu1 (wily) | 02:47 |
| Unit193 | https://packages.qa.debian.org/libx/libxfcegui4/news/20150505T220154Z.html | 02:48 |
| bluesabre | I know | 02:48 |
| bluesabre | packages.debian is slow to update | 02:48 |
| Unit193 | Oh well, will be there soon ehough... | 02:49 |
| bluesabre | indeed | 02:49 |
| bluesabre | will try again tomorrow | 02:49 |
| bluesabre | we could start working on the seed now | 02:49 |
| Unit193 | Wily bzr branches aren't there yet either, so can't propose merges. :/ | 02:49 |
| Unit193 | Don't break it! :P | 02:49 |
| bluesabre | heh | 02:50 |
| bluesabre | probably something like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/10994190/ | 03:03 |
| bluesabre | ubuntu without pdfimport and impress opengl transitions | 03:04 |
| Unit193 | Will likely have to blacklist some, no? | 03:05 |
| bluesabre | dunno | 03:05 |
| Unit193 | I believe so. | 03:05 |
| bluesabre | probably | 03:05 |
| Unit193 | And we want -math? | 03:05 |
| bluesabre | probably not | 03:05 |
| bluesabre | didn't know what we want, and we never voted on a concise list | 03:05 |
| bluesabre | can and probably should start with just writer/calc | 03:06 |
| Unit193 | I'd go with calc and writer for now, I believe -math will be pulled in though. | 03:06 |
| bluesabre | eh, no meta wily branch right now either to play with | 03:15 |
| bluesabre | so, I think I'll just be productive with this stuff tomorrow instead | 03:15 |
| Unit193 | So I had to go with poking someone that'd uploaded it before. | 03:15 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Well, seed will still get it, no? | 03:15 |
| bluesabre | yeah, I can push my changes to the seed at least | 03:16 |
| Unit193 | Oh, did you look over the draft, on a technical note? | 03:17 |
| Unit193 | jjfrv8: Thanks! | 03:17 |
| bluesabre | just did | 03:19 |
| bluesabre | the draft looks good | 03:19 |
| bluesabre | :) | 03:20 |
| Unit193 | Great! | 03:26 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: thunar .8 is in svn. | 03:26 |
| bluesabre | good to know | 03:34 |
| bluesabre | except the svn part | 03:34 |
| bluesabre | D: | 03:34 |
| Unit193 | !info git-svn | 03:34 |
| ubottu | git-svn (source: git): fast, scalable, distributed revision control system (svn interoperability). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.1.4-2.1 (vivid), package size 91 kB, installed size 871 kB | 03:34 |
| bluesabre | noted | 03:35 |
| bluesabre | bed time for now | 03:35 |
| Unit193 | G'nighty. | 03:35 |
| bluesabre | back tomorrow | 03:35 |
| bluesabre | :D | 03:35 |
| bluesabre | night | 03:35 |
| ochosi | Unit193: anything else on that article or shall we publish it? | 06:35 |
| ochosi | or maybe pleia2 or elfy wanna give it a quick glance..? | 06:35 |
| ochosi | (it's on x.org and about x-core) | 06:35 |
| pleia2 | I'll have a look | 06:35 |
| ochosi | ty! | 06:35 |
| pleia2 | an introduction as to *why* someone might want it may be useful | 06:42 |
| pleia2 | could reword the first paragraph to be that way, but as it is now it kind of jumps into the deep end :) | 06:43 |
| ochosi | hehe | 06:44 |
| ochosi | yeah, i tried to add some of that in with "fits on a CD", "good for ppl with limited bandwidth" | 06:45 |
| Unit193 | I even had some in the orig. | 06:45 |
| Unit193 | Not much, but still. | 06:46 |
| === paolo_ is now known as paolo | ||
| elfy | 2 reasons to use this imo - don't want to download 1Gb and don't like the default apps | 06:52 |
| pleia2 | it's actually ok the way it is, and I'm going to bed :) so it's fine to publish as it | 06:53 |
| elfy | ha ha | 06:53 |
| elfy | made it a bit easier to read | 06:54 |
| Unit193 | pleia2: G'night! | 06:54 |
| elfy | I'm good with publishing it too | 06:56 |
| ochosi | ok, i'll go ahead then | 07:08 |
| ochosi | and done. thanks Unit193! | 07:08 |
| Unit193 | Sure, thanks for fixing. :P | 07:09 |
| * Unit193 waits for it to load... | 07:12 | |
| elfy | ochosi: mmm so a bit confused here, grabbed xfpm from git and did all that stuff | 07:13 |
| ochosi | mkay..? | 07:14 |
| elfy | why do I get updates from ppa for it? | 07:14 |
| ochosi | oh, well that's because the 1.4.4 branch diverged | 07:14 |
| ochosi | and yeah, that obviously breaks everything, if you get an update from the PPA :) | 07:14 |
| elfy | yea | 07:14 |
| Unit193 | PPA = daily. | 07:14 |
| elfy | that's what I was a thinking ... | 07:14 |
| ochosi | git master is still 1.4.3 | 07:15 |
| elfy | I'll have another go at clean install later today - had some grrr moments yesterday | 07:15 |
| ochosi | mm sure, no rush | 07:15 |
| ochosi | haven't had time to work on it much more so far | 07:16 |
| ochosi | just lemme know whenever you get to it | 07:17 |
| elfy | yep | 07:21 |
| lderan | mm may poke gmusicbrowser, and see how much perl will mess with my mind :P | 07:59 |
| ochosi | lderan: you can, note that the source is quite ample and written by a single person, so the logic isn't exactly clear as crystal (from my pov) | 08:01 |
| lderan | fair ennough | 08:02 |
| ochosi | just sayin, as a former contributor ;) | 08:03 |
| lderan | :P | 08:03 |
| ochosi | however, a lot can be done layout/UI wise with gmusicbrowser | 08:03 |
| ochosi | it has its own layout language | 08:03 |
| ochosi | so maybe that would be a good entry point | 08:04 |
| lderan | looking at those files right now | 08:04 |
| Unit193 | Be aware there's a layout patch we use. | 08:04 |
| ochosi | and plugins aren't that hard to write | 08:04 |
| ochosi | (i mean if i managed, you surely will) | 08:04 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: It supports mpv now as well, just in case you didn't know. | 08:04 |
| ochosi | i know | 08:05 |
| ochosi | is that a plus for you? :) | 08:05 |
| Unit193 | Just "interesting" | 08:05 |
| ochosi | that would actually be quite nice for parole as well, adding an mplayer backend | 08:05 |
| ochosi | or libvlc | 08:05 |
| ochosi | but then again, what a waste of time. could just as well use mplayer or vlc directly... | 08:06 |
| ochosi | lderan: if you wanna work on parole, i'd have a few ideas for you ;) | 08:06 |
| lderan | oo | 08:06 |
| ochosi | e.g. make a gstreamer-plugin installer with packagekit. shouldn't be too hard, but bluesabre and me just never got round to it | 08:06 |
| lderan | sure sounds like fun :) | 08:07 |
| ochosi | we even used to have some sample code for that, but i'm sure you can find it on the web | 08:07 |
| ochosi | we currently use a crappy gstreamer internal script that should ideally install the codecs when needed, but it doesn't really work well | 08:07 |
| lderan | oh dear, well will have a play this evening after work :) | 08:08 |
| ochosi | cool, lemme know how it goes | 08:13 |
| lderan | will do | 08:18 |
| ochosi | Unit193: btw, i started social-media-ing the -core post, we'll see how much attention it'll generate | 09:33 |
| Unit193 | Awesomeness! | 09:33 |
| Unit193 | Noticed a wordpress pingback, https://www.bitblokes.de/2015/05/xubuntu-core-wird-ab-wily-werewolf-offiziell/ | 09:34 |
| ochosi | oh, ok, already got reshared | 09:34 |
| ochosi | oh darn, those folks even put up a screenshot | 09:34 |
| ochosi | we should've done that... | 09:34 |
| Unit193 | "Oops" | 09:34 |
| Unit193 | It's Xubuntu, it looks like Xubuntu. | 09:34 |
| ochosi | no, i meant the first one, that's sort of nice | 09:35 |
| ochosi | the installer screenshot | 09:35 |
| Unit193 | Oooh. | 09:37 |
| Unit193 | That's the syslinux default. | 09:37 |
| Unit193 | Except, added in core. | 09:37 |
| ochosi | yeah, ofc | 09:37 |
| ochosi | i tend to think it's just nice to show ppl *something* | 09:37 |
| ochosi | (as long as it's related) | 09:37 |
| * Unit193 shows a picture of ochosi's face. | 09:39 | |
| Unit193 | I, err, thought/couldn't remember if I disabled the disabling of maybe-ubiquity. "oops" | 09:40 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: You pay attention to the G+ community? (Not page) | 09:46 |
| ochosi | Unit193: yeah, showing my face would have been an almost viable alternative | 10:29 |
| ochosi | and i think i'm subscribed to the g+ community, yes | 10:30 |
| Unit193 | I glance in every so often, but if I want to do more I'm going to have to convert my unit193@ into G+.. | 10:39 |
| ochosi | nice that they picked it up as newsworthy, but really, why did they have to show off xubuntu core with simply an historic screenshot... http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Xubuntu-Core-Announced | 14:50 |
| ochosi | Unit193: *that* ^ is exactly why we should have provided one... | 14:50 |
| ochosi | looks like 4.6 or something... | 14:50 |
| drc | Seeing as how "core" has come up, does it come with USC or synaptic? | 14:58 |
| drc | wow..small iso (for these bloated days) :) | 15:00 |
| lderan | aye very snazzy | 15:05 |
| GridCube | ochosi: they have done the same for 15.04 and most all phoronix news for xubuntu, they just have one image and re use it | 16:21 |
| GridCube | see, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Xubuntu-15.10-Defaults | 16:22 |
| drc | But at least that one's labeled "flashback". | 16:29 |
| pleia2 | shared on the social medias | 16:44 |
| brainwash_ | GridCube: the panel layout shown in that screenshot is actually cool :) | 16:54 |
| brainwash_ | looks like xubuntu did mimic gnome 2 back then | 16:55 |
| drc | retro-xubuntu-core :) | 16:55 |
| elfy | ochosi: has new and clean install - not got our ppa's working yet | 17:04 |
| elfy | that said - it appears to have the power plugin working with an icon | 17:04 |
| elfy | ochosi: so - if having a working plugin icon makes it null and void on this I'll make it a wily beast - just let me know what's best for testing this issue | 17:12 |
| elfy | ochosi: latest postion here - git cloned, did the necessary and now power manager fails badly :) | 19:05 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: He'd have done that anyway, he's trying to show Xfce as old and outdated any chance he gets. Did that last post about Xubuntu/Xfce too. | 20:46 |
| brainwash_ | but won't this screenshot attract new users who want the old gnome 2 experience + lock & feel? :> | 20:50 |
| pleia2 | oh hey, I'm supposed to schedule a meeting | 21:06 |
| pleia2 | elfy: how does 1800 on tuesday work for you? | 21:08 |
| pleia2 | ^^ and others, but I want to talk to elfy :D | 21:08 |
| pleia2 | monday and wednesday within 2 hours of that work too | 21:09 |
| ochosi | elfy: how badly? | 21:37 |
| ochosi | pleia2: i'm abroad travelling all of next week, so i won't make it either way i guess | 21:38 |
| ochosi | the week after that i'll be back and available | 21:38 |
| pleia2 | I won't be :) | 21:39 |
| ochosi | oh | 21:39 |
| ochosi | well, i guess that happens :) | 21:39 |
| pleia2 | indeed | 21:39 |
| ochosi | Unit193: so this might be one of the reasons for your new bandwidth peaks: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/05/xubuntu-core-new-minimal-iso-download | 21:45 |
| ochosi | big blue link at the bottom really invites you to click it | 21:46 |
| Unit193 | Yep, saw that one too. Not looked at the Phoronix one yet. | 21:56 |
| Unit193 | See much/any feedback? | 21:57 |
| pleia2 | every comment on social media is positive (2 comments on g+, 5 on fb, 1 on twitter that also asked about boot speed) | 22:02 |
| ochosi | yeah, a bit | 22:02 |
| ochosi | quite positive so far | 22:02 |
| pleia2 | for the official outlets | 22:02 |
| ochosi | some folks asked what exactly is there (or what isn't) | 22:02 |
| ochosi | which is a legit question | 22:02 |
| pleia2 | 40 likes on facebook, 64 +1s on G+ and 7 retweets | 22:03 |
| pleia2 | all quite good for those resources | 22:03 |
| bluesabre | :D | 22:05 |
| bluesabre | nice job | 22:05 |
| ochosi | evening bluesabre | 22:05 |
| drc | is -core supported here or in #xubuntu? | 22:05 |
| ochosi | well, this is not a support channel really | 22:05 |
| ochosi | but i guess since it isn't official yet and if you have technical questions about it.. | 22:06 |
| drc | True, but I wan't sure when it stopped being in develment and became a release. | 22:06 |
| ochosi | hmwell, today i guess :) | 22:07 |
| drc | Is coreLive and core-installed the same (i.e., no repos listed? | 22:07 |
| bluesabre | evening all | 22:09 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: saw your mail this morning, will get a proper response on that :) | 22:09 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: sure, no rush from my side. just wanted to put it out there. so feel free to take your time | 22:09 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: about the libreoffice icons... | 22:19 |
| ochosi | i think i could work something out, but it'd be great if we could split that task up a bit | 22:19 |
| ochosi | doing the icon part alone will be quite time consuming, but i'm afraid of having to invest even more time into upstreaming everything | 22:20 |
| ochosi | i could see myself handling the icons | 22:20 |
| ochosi | even during this cycle, if needed | 22:21 |
| * ochosi has a feeling we might end up sticking with LO | 22:22 | |
| bluesabre | I was thinking about taking a look at it and see if maybe it would be reasonable to create a gtk icon theme conversion tool | 22:22 |
| ochosi | nah, not really | 22:23 |
| ochosi | many special icons that you wont find in a normal gtk icon theme | 22:23 |
| bluesabre | ah, gotcha | 22:23 |
| ochosi | http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/icon-themes/human | 22:23 |
| ochosi | this dir alone is not much fun: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/icon-themes/human/cmd | 22:23 |
| bluesabre | O.O | 22:24 |
| sidi | you guys are almost reddit frontpage :D | 22:28 |
| sidi | oh wait, nope, i was in the wrong page :-( | 22:28 |
| bluesabre | :D | 22:30 |
| bluesabre | D: | 22:30 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: still seems like there would be quite a bit of overlap with existing icons | 22:33 |
| bluesabre | I might put together something handy for that this week, but don't wait for me on that :) | 22:35 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: heh, well, what now, do i wait for your script or do i just port the icons over? :) | 22:47 |
| bluesabre | If you want to get started go ahead | 22:49 |
| bluesabre | I was thinking I might look into image matching and see if I can get icon names by comparing tango LO theme with tango gtk theme | 22:49 |
| bluesabre | no idea how well that would work, ofc | 22:50 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Massive uploadds to unstabler. \o/ | 23:01 |
| Unit193 | Please excuse the typos, laaaaaaaaag. | 23:01 |
| bluesabre | :D | 23:03 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: enjoying the popularity of -core downloads? :D | 23:03 |
| Unit193 | Hah, that server is fine. Uploading kali from loki not so much. | 23:04 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: But yeah, a but. :D | 23:04 |
| drc | wait till the complaints start coming in (and you know they will :) | 23:05 |
| Unit193 | Right. So thanks about the feedback, didn't see them. As to the difference? How technical did you need/want? | 23:06 |
| Unit193 | drc: Yeeeep, just forward those to bluesabre though! ;) | 23:07 |
| drc | Ah...the joys of delegation. | 23:09 |
| bluesabre | ah, you're right! | 23:09 |
| bluesabre | I can forward those back to Unit193 | 23:09 |
| bluesabre | :D | 23:09 |
| bluesabre | >.> | 23:09 |
| bluesabre | <.< | 23:09 |
| drc | a mobius forward? | 23:09 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: the question is whether you wanna do more than 1 icon theme i guess. for one, a script might not be worth the effort | 23:12 |
| ochosi | anyway, time to sleep | 23:12 |
| ochosi | night all! | 23:12 |
| Unit193 | G'night. | 23:12 |
| bluesabre | night ochosi | 23:15 |
| bluesabre | depending on how long it takes to do the matching, this might be better for even one | 23:15 |
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