[00:29] <GunnDawg> how can you show hidden files in programs where you "BROWSE" for a directory? ALT + . doesnt work in those windows
[00:32] <GunnDawg> like this: http://i.imgur.com/NYcjIKe.png
[00:32] <GunnDawg> how can I show hidden files in that "Browse fo Folder" window
[02:30] <cjwelborn> GunnDawg: It depends on the software. Usually it's right-click → show hidden files. But that only works if whoever built the dialog included it. KDE-dialogs do though.
[02:30] <cjwelborn> GunnDawg: I mean, not everyone uses the KDE dialogs, and not everyone includes a 'show hidden files' feature.
[02:34] <cjwelborn> This is why I like KDE, they go for consistency across applications. Otherwise, all the apps look different and have different options/shortcuts. Linux is very divided.
[03:07] <DarthFrog> Good evening folks.
[03:08] <DarthFrog> In 15.04, where is the Desktop folder?  It's not using my ~/Desktop from 14.10.
[03:08] <Etriaph> ~/Desktop
[03:09] <Etriaph> Oh, it may not be the same default..
[03:09] <Etriaph> System Settings -> Locations -> Desktop path
[03:09] <DarthFrog> If it were, it'd be showing me my 14.10 desktop.
[03:09] <Etriaph> I don't remember changing mine and it defaulted to ~/Desktop for me
[03:10] <DarthFrog> Thanks.  I have a look at it.
[03:12] <DarthFrog> I'm having no luck finding Locations in System Settings. :-(
[03:14] <DarthFrog> Search finds no Locations, no Desktop Path.
[03:32] <GunnDawg> I've seen it before but for whatever reason I cant find it now. Where is the option to remove the up and down arrow at the bottom of a scroll bar so that it sjust a down arrow?
[03:37] <GunnDawg> anyone?
[03:40] <GunnDawg> found it, nvm
[03:41] <yahyaa> hello
[03:42] <yahyaa> my applications don't have root privileges, can anyone help me to configure this in kubuntu 15.04???
[03:42] <GunnDawg> yahyaa: are you launching them with sudo?
[03:43] <yahyaa> well no i just click the icon and it opens up
[03:44] <yahyaa> like for instance i have php installed also but I like to use sublime text to edit my php files but it wont allow sublime text to save to the root folder, it say access denied!
[03:44] <GunnDawg> you need to create the file and save the file using sudo
[03:47] <yahyaa> I don't understand, if i create the file in sublime text how would i save it using sudo in the sublime text gui
[03:58] <XKs> hello
[04:00] <XKs> I just applied some updates yesterday on kubuntu (security updates) and I today I am unable to boot into gui. sddm seams to be running but blank screen. I can go to the terminal but I am not sure what to do.
[04:06] <madeti> XKs: try removing the $HOME/.config folder but you will lose all your settings, like desktop configuration, apps configuration etc.
[04:06] <madeti> so you may want to wait for somebody more experienced
[04:07] <madeti> but that worked for me, I did have the same problem once
[04:07] <XKs> .config will just loose how desktop looks correct?
[04:07] <XKs> not applications installed and etc...
[04:07] <XKs> what about shortcuts on desktop?
[04:08] <phoenixz> With 15.04, yakuake, mysql console suddenly does no longer allow CTRL + arrow left or arrow right to jump over words.. This did work before.. I use this a lot to avoid wasting time with left left left left... So how can I fix this behaviour?
[04:08] <Etriaph> yahyaa: #sublimetext
[04:09] <madeti> XKs: you will lose app configs like, for kate settings but not kate itself
[04:09] <XKs> looking for it :)
[04:09] <GunnDawg> speaking of KATE. Why is the font size like 5 when I run KATE
[04:10] <Etriaph> GunnDawg: Well, you can adjust that, but it's odd that it started out that small.
[04:10] <GunnDawg> Which font setting would adjust KATES font size?
[04:11] <Etriaph> Kate's settings
[04:11] <Etriaph> Configure Kate -> Fonts & Colors I think
[04:11] <GunnDawg> there we are, ok it wasnt 5 it was 9, but still too dang small
[04:11] <XKs> nope still blank screen on boot up...
[04:12] <madeti> XKs: removed .config folder with -Rf ?
[04:13] <XKs> renaming won't work I guess? :)
[04:13] <XKs> I renamed it to .configold
[04:13] <XKs> black screen btw not even logon screen.
[04:16] <madeti> XKs: renaming is fine, try removing(or renaming) .cache (in homr folder)
[04:18] <XKs> no luck
[04:20] <madeti> XKs: not even login screen?
[04:20] <XKs> nope
[04:21] <XKs> when I reboot from terminal it shows starting 219 message (tried systemctl enable sddm.service -f) instruction with no luck.
[04:22] <madeti> XKs: try this- restore the config folder (.configold)
[04:22] <madeti> hope u have it :)
[04:22] <XKs> I do :)
[04:24] <XKs> ok
[04:24] <madeti> so?
[04:25] <XKs> trying
[04:25] <GunnDawg> how does one turn on HTML or CSS syntax hilighting? I selected HTML via Tools > Hilighting >  Markup but it doesnt seem to work
[04:26] <GunnDawg> in KATE
[04:26] <XKs> nothing
[04:28] <madeti> XKs: weird, that worked for me, maybe someone from #plasma can help
[04:29] <hyper_ch> GunnDawg: save the file as .html or .css
[04:30] <GunnDawg> hyper_ch: I've done that
[04:31] <GunnDawg> hyper_ch: it may be working. works with CSS. I guess HTML doesnt have much in the way of syntax colors
[04:31] <hyper_ch> GunnDawg: http://images.sjau.ch/img/ef009be6.png
[04:31] <GunnDawg> hyper_ch: I dont see PHP on the list though. Does KATE not support PHP hilighting?
[04:32] <XKs> fixed it... darn it! should have tried reinstalling drivers under root in command line... weird that security updates would cause issues there...
[04:32] <XKs> actually not that weird :)
[04:32] <GunnDawg> hyper_ch: so it does have PHP hilighting then?
[04:32] <XKs> Thanks for your time though madeti. Greatly appreciated!
[04:32] <hyper_ch> it makes it automagically for me
[04:32] <hyper_ch> I just oepened a php file
[04:32] <hyper_ch> also notice that nice code-mapping bar ;)
[04:33] <GunnDawg> hyper_ch: yeah I'm not getting PHP hilighting. in the bottom left where yours says HTML (php) mine just says UTF-8
[04:33] <madeti> XKs: you're welcome, I do hope I didnt aggravate the problem :P
[04:33] <hyper_ch> I just opened a .php file
[04:34] <XKs> nope :)
[04:34] <madeti> hey you fixed it, nice :)
[04:34] <XKs> not at all. :)  Thanks again! Have a good day/night!
[04:36] <GunnDawg> hyper_ch: odd. I cannot get the PHP (HTML) to show up in the bottom right with proper PHP hilighting, just says UTF-8
[04:38] <hyper_ch> GunnDawg: what if you select there .php?
[04:38] <GunnDawg> hyper_ch: under hilighting?
[04:39] <hyper_ch> no, bottem right
[04:39] <hyper_ch> where it says php
[04:39] <GunnDawg> I only see the name of the file and UTF-8
[04:39] <GunnDawg> filename.php UTF-8 is all that is there
[04:40] <hyper_ch> then you're doing it wrong :)
[04:40] <GunnDawg> hyper_ch: http://i.imgur.com/uIXVtB6.png
[04:40] <hyper_ch> make a new file, save it as .php and then see
[04:41] <GunnDawg> hyper_ch: done that
[04:41] <hyper_ch> and there'splenty of highlighting
[04:41] <hyper_ch> so no idea what you mean
[04:41] <GunnDawg> thats not proper PHP syntax hilighting
[04:41] <GunnDawg> I dont believe
[04:41] <hyper_ch> now I'm curious what proper php syntax highlighting is for you
[04:42] <GunnDawg> thats a bit diverted from the issue at hand. Is all hilighting the same?
[04:43] <hyper_ch> no idea what you mean by is all highlighting the same
[04:43] <GunnDawg> hmm, not sure how to better word it
[04:43] <GunnDawg> I thought it was pretty clear
[04:44] <GunnDawg> why do they have options to select the different language types for hilighting?
[04:45] <hyper_ch> test them out
[04:47] <GunnDawg> hyper_ch: oh christ I appologize. I had a huge brain fart the past 5mins
[04:47] <GunnDawg> youre right and things are working as they should, sorry
[05:32] <phoenixz> With 15.04, yakuake, mysql console suddenly does no longer allow CTRL + arrow left or arrow right to jump over words.. This did work before.. I use this a lot to avoid wasting time with left left left left... So how can I fix this behaviour?
[06:19] <gunndawg> if I'm trying to create a new "Link to Location" to make a trash icon on my folder view widget what would the url be?
[06:20] <gunndawg> disregard
[06:21] <hateball> gunndawg: trash:/
[06:39] <lordievader> Goodmorning.
[06:52] <soee> good morning
[07:09] <gunndawg> This might be nit picky but using the folder view widget after you click on a folder that folder in the widget box (folder view) stays hilighted/selected until you click a blank space in the widget window it self. Any way around this?
[07:27] <luc4> Hello! Anyone experiencing problems with audio on 15.04? I see here that I can get audio only selecting headphones, but I can't have audio only on headphones.
[07:40] <gunndawg> is there a widgets channel where I can ask a "Folder View" widget question at?
[07:55] <meshlogic> Hello, I just installed Kubuntu 15.04. The GUI looks beautiful, but I want it dark, so I set desktop theme to Breeze Dark. All plasma went dark, but the main Panel keeps light and its icons disappeared. Please how can I set the panel backgroudn to be dark as well? Thank you
[08:12] <meshlogic> Does it mean the Breeze Dark theme is broken when doesn't change the panel background color to dark, but only change icons to white? I even tried to upgrade to KDE 5.3, but the problem remains.
[08:43] <Naphatul> is there a known bug with baloo? it's using 100% of one of my cores all the time
[08:44] <hateball> Naphatul: Is this a fresh install or a recent upgrade?
[08:45] <hateball> It'll take a while to index everything you've got, initially
[08:45] <Naphatul> fresh install of 15.04
[08:45] <Naphatul> ah no not recent
[08:45] <Naphatul> but not an upgrade
[08:45] <Naphatul> installed it a few weeks ago and no significant file changes
[08:48] <Naphatul> i think it might be getting stuck on a file or something, since once i kill it, it goes away for a while
[08:48] <RtMF> Naphatul: baloo and before it, um...wtfever it was called...has always *been* a bit of a known bug
[08:49] <RtMF> for the time being, disable/remove it, but its probably worth looking to see what its up to too -- either strace it, or look at things like fuser/lsof/etc., or...maybe we get lucky and it has good logs?
[08:49]  * RtMF hasn't fought with it lately b/c there's no point on her netbook
[10:07] <lolmaus> After upgrading to 15.04, some of system tray icons are missing, e. g. Skype and Dropbox, though corresponding apps are running. How do i get them back?
[10:16] <hateball> lolmaus: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/ I guess, not using skype nor dropbox
[10:29] <lolmaus> hateball: what a drag! :(
[10:30] <hateball> lolmaus: well it's not exactly new, app devs have had plenty of time to fix their stuff
[10:50] <MoonUnit`> from what i can see libappindicator was created by canonical for unity, so shouldn't they be patching code for their debs?
[11:07] <asus-k73tk> bra
[11:49] <gunndawg> 0/
[12:06] <lolmaus> Is there a canonical guide for setting up SSH Agent in Kubuntu?
[12:14] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:09] <cesar_> bom dia a todos!!!
[13:10] <Guest97429> sou novo no grupo e no kubuntu e gostaria de uma ajuda...
[13:10] <BluesKaj> !pt | Guest97429
[13:11] <Guest97429> estou me certificando em cisco (ccna) e estou com problemas para executar o packettrace no kubuntu 15.04...
[14:07] <u__> hi, when do i know that muon is dead? the cursor keeps spinning, but % stays the same.
[14:07] <u__> muon is the software updater by the way :)
[14:10] <BluesKaj> I'm using muon without a problem, make sure your source mirrors are ok, u__
[14:14] <u__> i installed today in the morning with an image from yesterday BluesKaj, i get network traffic. i wonder if it is the full disk encryption + home dir encryption that makes problems
[14:15] <BluesKaj> u__, , the best method to update your software then is to use apt-get update and upgrade in the konsole
[14:16] <BluesKaj> u__, not sure about encryption's effects on apps ..no experience with it
[14:18] <u__> thanks BluesKaj i will reboot and try to update via konsole
[14:21] <amari> Hi, does the Intel driver support openGL3.1 compositing?
[14:22] <JunkHunk> hello does anybody know how to fix this? http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=87825
[14:22] <JunkHunk> I get that annoying funnel icon instead of the icon I designed for that folder!!!
[14:23] <JunkHunk> I tried both placing the icon in /usr/share/icons and  ~/.local/share/icons same results
[14:23] <JunkHunk> the funnel
[14:24] <JunkHunk> it only happens for downloads dropbox and images folders
[14:25] <BluesKaj> amari, yes , it does on my laptop
[14:26] <amari> BluesKaj: thanks. I wasn't sure if opengl3.1 was already supported in intel opensource graphics
[14:26] <BluesKaj> amari, using the i915 driver ? it should by default
[14:27] <amari> BluesKaj: How do I check? :D
[14:28] <BluesKaj> amari, lspci -knn | egrep -A 3 'VGA|3D'
[14:29] <amari> that's it, i915 :)
[14:29] <BluesKaj> good
[14:29] <BluesKaj> then OpenGL3.1 is good to go
[14:29] <amari> BluesKaj: I asked in the main ubuntu channel, I'll ask here again: Is there any way to install language packages from the terminal? I mean, configure the languages in the terminal the same it is done by the GUI in ubuntu Unity.
[14:30] <BluesKaj> amari, sorry I have no experience with language packages
[14:57] <greenik> asd
[15:00] <BluesKaj> greenik, ??
[16:40] <zztopless> hi everyone, just wondering if anyone has encountered, in Kubuntu 15.04, the issue where upon restarting all settings seem to be lost (reverting to default)...?
[16:41] <hyper_ch> what do you mean by all settings?
[16:44] <zztopless> well it's a fresh install, so there's not a huge amount, but one example is my monitor/screen settings.  I run two monitors an everytime i restart it defaults a mirroed setup (in monitor settings I just drag 'monitor 1' across and it reveals 'monitor 0', hit apply and it's fine again)
[16:45] <hyper_ch> zztopless: that works for me... however, I set the desktop to show folder and my main external monitor always reverted after reboot to that default thingy
[16:46] <zztopless> also shortcuts ceated in 'places' in Dolphin don't survive a restart of dolphin, let alone a system restart.  I also lose any favourites added to the start menu when restarting
[16:47] <hyper_ch> well, Kubuntu Team 5.3 Beta PPA fixes that
[16:47] <hyper_ch> zztopless: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=345174
[16:47] <zztopless> hmm, not on folder view currently (usually would be just haven't got around to setting that up yet since the upgrade)
[16:47] <zztopless> thanks
[16:48] <hyper_ch> as said, kubuntu team 5.3 beta or backport ppa
[16:48] <hyper_ch> not sure which one already has the fix
[16:50] <muntrue> Hello everyone, could someone assist me with a VPN connection. I set everything up but when I click the connect button nothing happens
[16:50] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, it's the launchpad kubuntu-backports ppa for plasma 5.3
[16:51] <zztopless> might give 5.3 beta a whirl anyway, I use 15 to do some development, but everything is saved on external drives and it's not that critical anyway
[16:51] <hyper_ch> isn't that what I said sort of?
[16:51] <hyper_ch> muntrue: I use openvpn
[16:51] <hyper_ch> but I don't use the network manager to manage them
[16:51] <hyper_ch> but to them by config file in /etc/openvpn/
[16:52] <BluesKaj> zztopless, https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports
[16:52] <muntrue> hyper_ch still, network manager should work right? or is it just buggy?
[16:52] <hyper_ch> never used network manager for that
[16:52] <hyper_ch> it's just way easyer to put a config file into /etc/openvpn/ for me
[16:52] <hyper_ch> I currently have 4 concurrent vpn connections there
[16:53] <BluesKaj> muntrue, which vpn server ?
[16:53] <zztopless> thanks BluesKaj & hyper_ch
[16:53] <muntrue> BluesKaj its a VPN server at my office, I am just using the standard network manager to try and conenct to it but the button does nothing, not even an error
[16:53] <muntrue> hyper_ch im still getting familliar with the linux filesystem, i still need a lot of gui help =]
[16:54] <BluesKaj> muntrue, openvpn ?
[16:54] <muntrue> BluesKaj im having a hard time working without a gui
[16:54] <hyper_ch> yeah, guis are hard to work with.... config files are much better
[16:55] <hyper_ch> so, I'm going home now
[16:55] <BluesKaj> muntrue, you'll need to find out which vpn protocol your office vpn server uses in order to connect to it
[16:55] <crawler9> Hello, is there anyone who'd be able to help me get audio over HDMI working?
[16:55] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, nothing wwrong with guis that work
[16:55] <muntrue> BluesKaj as far as I know everything is configured correctly, its the same settings I use on a Mac and Windows machine
[16:56] <muntrue> BluesKaj its just that when I click the connect button, absolutely nothing seems to happen
[16:56] <crawler9> (I'm starting from scratch, so nothing I've tried will cause issues... just freshly installed Kubuntu 14.04 + updated via Muon)
[16:56] <BluesKaj> muntrue, vpn client/application are you using?
[16:57] <BluesKaj> which
[16:57] <sithlord48> crawler9: what video card?
[16:57] <muntrue> BluesKaj just the build in Network Manager in Kubuntu
[16:57] <sithlord48> crawler9: if you are using radeion driver you need to boot with the option radieon.audio=1
[16:57] <crawler9> NVIDIA 980m SLI. Intel Onboard Graphics are not available in this laptop.
[16:58] <BluesKaj> muntrue, build ?
[16:58] <sithlord48> crawler9:  check system settings multimedia audio devices. move the hdmo to the top of the list hit apply
[16:58] <muntrue> BluesKaj 14.04
[16:58] <BluesKaj> !vpn | muntrue
[16:58] <sithlord48> crawler9:  its device preferance for the last part
[17:01] <crawler9> brb phone interview
[17:09] <crawler9> Sorry about that, sithlord48. I had no idea when over the course of 3 days they'd call me. Anyway, video out over HDMI doesn't even seem to be functional at this point (fresh install), so is it appropriate to install a binary NVIDIA driver or is there something else I should try first?
[17:10] <sithlord48> crawler9:  idk i have not used nvidia on linux in a long time
[17:11] <sithlord48> crawler9:  you can maybe look for the feature matrix for the nvidia driver and see what is currently supported for your cards generation
[17:11] <sithlord48> crawler9:  you may need the properitary driver to use that im not sure .
[17:12] <crawler9> How would I go about finding that? Is that something already present in my system (attached to whatever driver I'm using) or something I need to seek out on the internet?
[17:12] <sithlord48> crawler9: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix/
[17:16] <crawler9> sithlord48: My cards should fall under NV110... so unless I'm reading wrong, it looks like it should just work lol
[17:17] <crawler9> Is there a way to confirm the nouveau driver is loaded?
[17:18] <sithlord48> crawler9:  lsmod | grep nouveau
[17:19] <crawler9> Appears to be, but no video out. Guess I'll move to proprietary.
[17:20] <sithlord48> do you have a laptop ?
[17:20] <crawler9> Yes.
[17:20] <sithlord48> i only ask because sometimes there is a hardware button to turn on that ext video out
[17:20] <sithlord48> i think on mine ints FN + F3
[17:20] <crawler9> There is a button, but it seems to have no effect in Kubuntu.
[17:21] <crawler9> Actually, pressing it randomly types "p"
[17:21] <sithlord48> check docs for your laptop to see how its susposed to work
[17:22] <crawler9> I know in Windows it uses a special hotkey program and rotates between single monitor, mirror screen, and extend screen.
[17:23] <crawler9> The docs don't say anything about Linux.s
[17:23] <sithlord48> did u enable that screen in system settings?
[17:23] <sithlord48> system settings -> display
[17:23] <crawler9> I don't see a place to do so. Only the one screen is shown.
[17:24] <crawler9> (Built in screen)
[17:24] <sithlord48> and your hdmi screen is pluged in and turned in correct ?
[17:24] <crawler9> It is. I know with the proprietary drivers, I got video out before my refresh, but then I ended up with other issues that made HDMI audio functionality even more complicated.
[17:25] <sithlord48> no not sure what to advise you to try next honestly
[17:25] <crawler9> (Multiple HDMI/DVI connections that all claim to be unplugged, but working video).
[17:25] <sithlord48> it could be a know issue with your laptop or just something stupidly overlooked..
[17:26] <crawler9> Dang. Okay. I have one more (less than ideal) option that might work, but otherwise I might have to go back to Windows. :(... HDMI audio is important as I basically use this computer as a media PC to watch a lot of stuff on TV. Thanks for trying to help me, sithlord48. I appreciate it.
[17:27] <u__> i have this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+bug/1447282 :)
[17:27] <hyper_ch> I don't use swap at all :) no need to waste more space on my precious ssd ;)
[17:27] <crawler9> Same here
[17:27] <sithlord48> crawler9:  yeah nividia on linux can be hit or miss. try the properitary driver before you go back maybe it iwll work ":D
[17:28] <hyper_ch> I got /var/log as tempfs also
[17:28] <sithlord48> i use swap on my low memory machines or ones i plan to hybernate.
[17:28] <u__> here the laptop has only 4 GB need swap for developing
[17:28] <sithlord48> how is that a bug. ? swap is not in your home folder
[17:29] <OerHeks> u__, interesting answer #12, encrypted swap size differ from unencrypted ..
[17:29] <hyper_ch> 16gb ram on my notebook
[17:29] <sithlord48> hyper_ch:  swap if you want to hybernate
[17:30] <u__> 8 GB on big laptop is enough for swapless use
[17:30] <hyper_ch> I don't believe in hibernation
[17:30] <hyper_ch> https://paste.debian.net/172706/
[17:30] <sithlord48> im not sure if it needed for suspend to ram
[17:30] <u__> i love suspend to ram
[17:30] <u__> nope not needed
[17:31] <hyper_ch> if you have other useful folders to als tmpfs, let me know
[17:31] <hyper_ch> stuff like /var/log and /var/tmp produce lots of writes I assume... so no need to wear-level my ssd there
[17:33] <u__> at work our 50mbit gateway is dead ... 6 mbits for sucking images out of the webz
[17:34] <hyper_ch> you should work at work and not suck images
[17:34] <u__> i have to docker it
[17:34] <hyper_ch> people still use docker?
[17:35] <u__> just started ;)
[17:35] <u__> are we late ?
[17:35] <BluesKaj> u__, late for ?
[17:36] <hyper_ch> I still can't see what it's good for... same goes for facebook and twitter and a lot of other stuff.... I keep missing every hype
[17:36] <u__> BluesKaj: catching the docker hype
[17:37] <u__> we have hardware but no manpower so maybe docker helps for easy deploying and managing resources on demand
[17:37] <BluesKaj> u__, like cairo ?
[17:37] <u__> no idea
[17:38] <BluesKaj> !cairo
[17:39] <BluesKaj> !cairo-dock
[17:39] <BluesKaj> the bot doesn't seem to have it's info up to date
[17:42] <crawler9> sithlord48: Video out is working fine, and I tried the device preferences and moved HDA NVidia Digital Stero (HDMI) to the top and hit apply. Upon clicking Test, no audio comes out.
[17:42] <Niknick> hi, i just upgrade my ubuntu to 15.04 and now i logged in to my new and shiny 5.2 desktop. how can i reset all kde configuration settings? isn't moving .kde away still the proper approach?
[17:42] <sithlord48> crawler9:  yeah don't worry about that try another soruce and check volumes
[17:47] <crawler9> I don't see any place that says mute or low volume level, volume is up on my TV as well, and I've tried a few different types of audio, including YouTube and the audio file included in Amarok. No sound.
[17:49] <BluesKaj> crawler9, which audio card?
[17:51] <crawler9> I believe the HDMI audio is connected to my NVIDIA 980m, but my main audio is from a soundblaster card I believe. Any place I can look that up to be certain via terminal?
[17:53] <BluesKaj> crawler9, aplay -l
[17:54] <crawler9> https://paste.kde.org/pxqg9gnaq
[17:57] <BluesKaj> crawler9, look in alsamixer in the terminal to make sure automute is not enabled
[17:59] <BluesKaj> crawler9, also do you have speakers connected to the pc at the analog outputs ?
[17:59] <drw> crawler9: when debugging audio issues, I tend to prefer pavucontrol over kmix...seems to be more accurate
[17:59] <drw> alsamixer is good too
[18:01] <BluesKaj> drw we'll get to pavucontrol eventually , trying to establish what kind of setup he has
[18:01] <crawler9> Only built in speakers. This is a laptop.
[18:01] <drw> ok
[18:01] <crawler9> I don't see anything related to automute in alsamixer
[18:02] <BluesKaj> ok , do the laptop speakers work ok ?
[18:03] <crawler9> Generally, yes, they work fine. Right now, I have no audio, but that's because I have "HDA NVidia Digital Stereo (HDMI)" preferred over "Built-in Audio Analog Stero" in the KDE Audio and Video Settings Control Module for all audio stream types.
[18:06] <BluesKaj> crawler9, you can set the hdmi output as your second choice in the list in sytem settings>multimedia>device preference
[18:08] <crawler9> Just did that, BluesKaj.
[18:09] <crawler9> Hi ColtonDRG, I see you've joined me here. To answer your questions, audio is not coming out of the TV under any circumstances. With HDMI prioritized, no audio comes from the built in speakers either. Internal speakers work fine when they have priority.
[18:10] <ColtonDRG> That sounds like the wrong video card is prioritized, or maybe the TV is configured incorrectly.
[18:10] <ColtonDRG> Wait, to internal speakers work when HDMI is detatched?
[18:12] <crawler9> I think that may be the case. I just took another look at my aplay -l output (https://paste.kde.org/pxqg9gnaq) and my diplay settings page. My display is listed as HDMI-0 and  in my aplay output,  HDMI-0 shows 0/1 subdevices.
[18:12] <EvilRoey> valorie:  heya
[18:13] <ColtonDRG> crawler9: Yeah... It's probably because both graphics cards have an audio card, but the system doesn't know which one to use.
[18:13] <EvilRoey> valorie:  where can I copy my settings into from .kde/share/config/*?  You mentioned ~/.config, but when I put my files there, settings don't seem to take hold once I re-start.
[18:16] <ColtonDRG> crawler9: I don't remember exactly where it is in KDE, but somewhere in the KDE Sound Control Panel, there is a list of audio cards and you can enable/disable them.
[18:16] <BluesKaj> crawler9, usually the graphics card will get the digital feed from the soundcard if the pck/spdif output is designated in pavucontrol as the secondary output or car1 , card 0 is the primary which in your case is the analog out
[18:16] <BluesKaj> pck=pcm
[18:20] <crawler9> So I should install pavucontrol? That's pulse, isn't it?
[18:22] <daft> Hi, how can i change my kubuntu session logout time?
[18:22] <BluesKaj> crawler9, yes it's part of pulseaudio
[18:25] <tsimpson> daft: you mean the time before it locks your session?
[18:25] <BluesKaj> crawler9,  just checked my laptop , the spdif in alsmixer should also be unmuted, use the M key if there's MM in the spdif box that's the digital feed to the hdmi output , you'll nneed to select that in pavucontrol when you want to send the audio via hdmi to your tv
[18:26] <crawler9> BluesKaj in pavucontrol, what I see under output devices are Speakers, analog output, and Headphones (unplugged).
[18:26] <daft> tsimpson Yep..
[18:27] <tsimpson> daft: ok, you can change that from System Settings. just go to Desktop Behaviour -> Screen Locking
[18:27] <BluesKaj> crawler9, choose the conguration tab in pavuctl to choose the hdmi output
[18:28] <crawler9> I don't see anything with MM on it in alsamixer
[18:28] <daft> A right thank you
[18:30] <crawler9> On the configuration page, I see HDA NVidia wit 4 profiles. 2 of "Digital Stereo (HDMI) Output (unplugged)" and 2 of "Digial Surround 5.1 (HDMI) Output (unplugged)"
[18:30] <BluesKaj> crawler9, do you see a spdif box in alsamixer?
[18:32] <crawler9> Choosing any of those devices in pavucontrol throws an error to the terminal I used to launch it- "(pavucontrol:41##): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_device_grab_remove: assertion 'GDK_IS_DEVICE (device)' failed" over and over. I see two S/PDIF boxes, both say zero and neither can be turned up.
[18:32] <BluesKaj> ok the digital stereo hdmi or the 5.1 hdmi should work
[18:33] <BluesKaj> the spdif boxes are controlled by the pcm volume ctl
[18:35] <crawler9> No audio out with any of those selected
[18:35] <BluesKaj> pcm is a standard digital audio output for audio device digital inputs on amps and audio receivers or DACs
[18:37] <BluesKaj> do you have the pcm vol ctl turned up in alsamixer
[18:38] <crawler9> It's at 100
[18:39] <sick_rimmit> Hello. Anyone know why Kmail see's the mail in my Inbox subfolders, but won't show the mail in the Inbox itself. Its an IMAP Server I'm connected to ?
[18:39] <BluesKaj> ok what about the device preference in system settings>multimedia ?
[18:39] <BluesKaj> crawler9,^
[18:41] <crawler9> BluesKaj: I now see 2 x HDA NVidia Digital STero (HDMI) and 2 x HDA NVidia Digial Surround 5.1 (HDMI). Both Surround devices are grayed out as if they aren't plugged in. One Stereo device is also grayed out. The other is the one that was there from the start.
[18:43] <hyper_ch> sick_rimmit: try #kontact but you have to be really patient there
[18:44] <sick_rimmit> hyper_ch: Oh sorry, I am using Kontact, I was speaking about the Kmail component
[18:45] <crawler9> BluesKaj, do you have any idea why I'm getting the "Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_device_grab_remove: assertion 'GDK_IS_DEVICE (device)' failed
[18:45] <crawler9> " error in pavucontrol?
[18:45] <BluesKaj> crawler9, looks like the intel hda driver isn't loading, sudo nodprobe snd-hda-intel , then you need to reboot
[18:46] <crawler9> Will do, be back soon.
[18:46] <crawler9> That's supposed to be modprobe, right?
[18:46] <BluesKaj> er sudo modprobe , crawler9
[18:46] <BluesKaj> yeah
[18:46] <crawler9> Already, just put that in, no output. Be right back
[18:47] <BluesKaj> no output is good , the driver loaded properly
[18:51] <crawler9> Back, I don't see anything different
[18:53] <BluesKaj> in multimedia ?
[18:54] <BluesKaj> which graphics driver for your nvidia card crawler9 ?
[18:55] <crawler9> NVIDIA Proprietary 349.16
[18:56] <BluesKaj> must be a fancy gpu to use that driver on alaptop
[18:57] <crawler9> 2 x NVIDIA 980m. Top of the line GPUs when I bought the laptop.
[18:57] <BluesKaj> crawler9, so you're not using the recommended driver in driver manager/
[18:58] <crawler9> It says I am. "Using NVIDIA binary driver - version 349.16 from nvidia 349 (Recommended Driver)
[18:58] <crawler9> "
[18:59] <drw> that gpu might not be supported in older versions
[18:59] <BluesKaj> then the only thing I can see to do is check pavucontrol to make sure the same outputs are chosen there and in the device prefernces in multimedia
[19:01] <BluesKaj> 2nvidias?
[19:01] <crawler9> They are. "Digital Stero (HDMI) Output (unplugged)" in both.
[19:01] <crawler9> Yes, two of the same.
[19:04] <BluesKaj> but the hdmis are greyed out in device preferences
[19:04] <crawler9> Correct. Except for one. Which seems to route audio to nowhere.
[19:05] <crawler9> er.
[19:05] <crawler9> Yes, all show unplugged in pavucontrol, one shows plugged in but seems to route audio nowhere in System Settings - Device Preferences
[19:11] <BluesKaj> one last thing , would you mind posting a screenshot of alsamixer in imagebin or some such ?
[19:12] <crawler9> Sure.
[19:16] <crawler9> http://prntscr.com/72nrqi
[19:18] <rattking> anyone here know how to get ssh-agent working with kwallet on plasma 5? this all worked on startup with kde 4
[19:18] <crawler9> BluesKaj: Also have one more sound card selectable- "Card:  HDA NVidia" "Chip:  Nvidia GPU 71 HDMI/DP" which has two available options: "S/PDIF" and "SPDIF 1"... both of which are set to 00 and not muted.
[19:19] <rattking> I added the script to autostart already
[19:21] <BluesKaj> crawler9, yes the spdif output is what you want ...btw the screenshot doesn't showup on my browser
[19:22] <acz32> does anyone know if digikam can be used to manage photos on an external USB hard drive that is not always on. when i tried to import from that drive it copied photos to my hard drive, but i want to manage them in place
[19:25] <crawler9> Odd... here's another copy: http://ibin.co/20wDJoOf9Y9K
[19:25] <BluesKaj> crawler9, spdif is the digital std output on most soundcards ..spdif stands for sony philips digtal interface
[19:25] <drw> acz32: when you 1st run digiKam, the setup wizard prompts you for the photo location. It says there that removable media, remote filesystems are supported
[19:25] <lakitu> i'm having troulbe getting effects to work. i have two different amd cards, & when i set desktopeffects to opengl with xinerama on, my computer freezes. it works with xinerama off
[19:26] <lakitu> setting the compositing to xrender 'works', but without the desired effects
[19:26] <crawler9> I know. I actually have a SPDIF port too.
[19:26] <lakitu> it works in the sense it doesn't crash my system
[19:27] <acz32> drw: but i selected a local directory because i have local photos. but i also want to manage the photos on removable media.
[19:28] <acz32> it doesn't seem like i can add more than one path for photo locations
[19:28] <drw> yeah, don't think you can
[19:30] <acz32> so it sounds like one one path is supported, you can't do both local and remote/external
[19:31] <BluesKaj> crawler9, do you have an audio system connected to your tv, like a stereo receiver or amplifier?
[19:31] <drw> acz32: look at Collections in digiKam's settings
[19:31] <MoonUnit`> 2nd time i tried arch, 2nd time realized why i prefer k/ubuntu
[19:31] <crawler9> BluesKaj, no, my TV uses its internal speakers only.
[19:32] <drw> acz32: I was wrong, just can select only one at initial setup, but looks like you can add more later
[19:33] <acz32> drw: you're right. awesome
[19:33] <acz32> thank you
[19:33] <drw> yep, np
[19:36] <BluesKaj> crawler9, I'm out of ideas, and it's odd because the spdif output should connect through your gpu hdmi output
[19:37] <crawler9> Dang.
[19:37] <BluesKaj> I'm assuming you've tried the hdmi outputs on both gpus
[19:37] <crawler9> There's only one physcial HDMI port.
[19:38] <crawler9> I've tried all the options I could find in software now.
[19:39] <drw> the laptop might not have the audio routed through the GPU's...I know in a desktop, you would need a cable to pass it through
[19:39] <crawler9> I know it works in Windows- the HDMI cable carries audio and video to my TV.
[19:40] <drw> ok, that's a good sign then
[19:40] <drw> I have no ideas either
[19:40] <BluesKaj> drw my nvidia card passes the  dvi/hdmi directly from the spdif out on the soundcard
[19:40] <crawler9> Same HDMI port on both the TV and laptop, same cable, same TV, and same port, so I'm certain the equipment is all good.
[19:41] <crawler9> I said port twice, sorry. I'm getting sleepy.
[19:41] <drw> BluesKaj: ok
[19:43] <crawler9> It appears my actual SPDIF port is functioning more as a line-out port. I don't have a spdif cable to test it properly, but I just plugged headphones into it and hit test on "Built in Audio Analog Stereo" and audio came out of both my headphones and my internal speakers on the laptop.
[19:46] <crawler9> Thanks for trying to help me even if we weren't able to solve whatever the issue is.
[19:51] <BluesKaj> crawler9, in alsmixer on the soundblaster mute one of the spdif boxes on the right
[19:52] <BluesKaj> far right that is , one is default and the other must be optional
[19:53] <crawler9> The one marked S/PDIF Def?
[19:55] <BluesKaj> try either one
[19:56] <BluesKaj> or both rather :)
[19:57] <crawler9> Didn't seem to make a difference
[19:57] <BluesKaj> not at the same time of course
[19:57] <crawler9> I tried every combination using all 4 SPDIF settings.
[20:00] <BluesKaj> ok one more thing crawler9 , add this to the  bottom of  /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and save the file , options snd-hda-intel index=0 , the you'll need to reboot , this might work
[20:00] <BluesKaj> the=then
[20:05] <rattking> so it seems like ksshaskpass is not remembering my ssh password even if I tick 'remember'
[20:06] <crawler9> No cigar.
[20:06] <BluesKaj> bummer
[20:07] <BluesKaj> you can try the output selections just to make sure
[20:07] <crawler9> I already gave it a try, and tried out all the SPDIF settings again too. No luck, unfortunately.
[20:08] <BluesKaj> the soundblaster isn't passing the spdif signmal to the gpu hdmi out for some reason, but I can't figure out why
[20:09] <crawler9> It seems odd to me that it  would under any circumstance... should SPDIF be specifically for the SPDIF port? That seems like an odd way to work under the hood.
[20:10] <BluesKaj> bloody linux audio, it's a real dog's breakfast
[20:11] <crawler9> Does DVI output audio? I have a port for that too... if so, I might try to get a DVI cable in the next few days as an alternative, since HDMI is kinda flopping.
[20:12] <Etriaph> Hey folks, does anyone know how to solve Chrome not using the KDE file dialog (but using the GTK file dialog) in 15.04?
[20:12] <Etriaph> Trying to help a user on the mailing list.
[20:12] <BluesKaj> yes DVI carries audio on my setup
[20:13] <BluesKaj> crawler9,^
[20:14] <crawler9> Cool, guess that's my next hope. lol. Thanks again BluesKaj. Sorry to take so much of your time.
[20:16] <BluesKaj> np, audio has been my hobby for many yrs , and I enjoy trying solve problems on linux ...it's just too bad i haven't come up with thae answer , there is one I'm sure,
[20:17] <crawler9> Man, trying to convert from Linux has been no easy task. I tried liked 3 flavors of Ubuntu 15.04 and none of them worked properly (invisible mouse regardless of what I tried), Fedora won't boot on my machine, and now 14.04 is nearly perfect except occasionally when I boot, my mouse and keyboard don't work and the HDMI audio out doesn't work.
[20:17] <crawler9> from Windows [to Linux]*
[20:18] <BluesKaj> linux audio is a weak link in the chain I'm afraid , one of the few though
[20:20] <woife> hi all
[20:21] <crawler9> I'm gonna reinstall Kubuntu from scratch in case I've screwed anything else up trying to get audio working, then just live with everything else the way it is until I get my hands on DVI cable. Have a good day.
[20:21] <woife> my kubuntu system is missing a keyboard configuration. i would like to use german/austria, but it is not there in the system settings dialog
[20:21] <woife> does anyone know where I can add/modify keyboard layout in kubuntu?
[20:22] <woife> (actually, it only provides german/switzerland, so I guess german/germany is missing too)
[20:23] <BluesKaj> crawler9, ok good luck
[20:23] <crawler9> Take care
[20:23] <gebjgd> woife: doch
[20:24] <woife> gebjgd: you mean you have those keyboard layouts?
[20:25] <gebjgd> woife: Eingabegeräte -> Tastatur -> Belegungen -> Belegungen einrichten -> Hacken
[20:26] <woife> Yes, this is where i looked for it. i also clicked Add and scrolled through the list
[20:27] <gebjgd> woife: just choose ger and deutsch then in the variante, you can change it
[20:28] <woife> gebjgd: that was what I was looking for! thanks a lot, I could configure it know the way I want :)
[20:28] <gebjgd> woife: you re welcome
[20:47] <Etriaph> Anyone have any experience with xdg-open?
[21:41] <rattking> is case anyone is interested.. my ksshaskpass issues were solved by using the backports ppa.
[22:20] <Toast> My desktop has stopped working on my main user account leaving only a terminal window and whatever programs I had open last session, but no K menu. My dual monitors have become mirrored rather than separate. Any idea how I can start debugging this? I'm running 15.04 and it was working fine for a while after the upgrade and just seems to have broken today.
[22:36] <Toast> When I go into system settings, I get the following error: "System Settings was unable to find any views, and hence has nothing to display".
[23:08] <skomorokh> Anyone know where to enable sytem-wide pulse audio in 15.04? /etc/init/pulseaudio.conf isn't there anymore....
[23:09] <skomorokh> /etc/dbus-1/system.d/pulseaudio-system.conf is there and mentions a pulse user and system-wide as being an option, but doesn't let me know where to flip the switch
[23:41] <k3vin> Does anybody know how to get grouping desktop back in kubuntu 15.04?
[23:41] <k3vin> ...or has it been totally removed in plasma 5?
[23:45] <gunndawg> do both of these commands do the same thing?
[23:45] <gunndawg> sudo chown root:root /path/to/application
[23:46] <gunndawg> sudo chmod 700 /path/to/application
[23:47] <gunndawg> nevermind, it just asigns the owner and chmod 700 to it, should have kept reading