[17:07] is there any way to have the launchpad builders configured to have apt output verbose messages on dependency failures? "is not going to be installed" is not a particularly useful error message in itself :-/ [18:36] dobey: unfortunately not AFAIK [18:36] I think this should be fixed in apt itself personally [18:36] sure. i just didn't know if it had a way to do that already or not === anthonyf is now known as Guest80518 === anthonyf is now known as Guest51489 [21:53] is there any kind of planning for git-based recipe builds yet? [22:00] mwhudson: not work we've moved on to yet, but would certainly appreciate any thoughts you might have on recipes. [22:00] blr: heh [22:00] blr: i want it, and a pony [22:00] no actual thought applied yet [22:00] after the UI work I suspect that will be the next thing to tackle [22:08] blr: to be specific, i want to built tip-of-tree packages of go [22:08] but that's about all i really _want_ :) [22:09] (and a pony) [22:09] well, that certainly sounds reasonably - we'll sign you up for dogfooding it when we get on to it. Thanks for volunteering heh :) [22:09] reasonable even. [22:09] i guess lp could assume the use of gbp, but i don't really understand gbp [22:09] (and i'm not sure anyone does, from what i hear) [22:09] mapreri: maybe the pony should be implied [22:09] * mapreri does understand gbp [22:21] mapreri: heh [22:22] well maybe you can help then [22:22] for the case where upstream is in git and you are building snapshots, it seems lots of what gbp does is not required [23:17] mwhudson: I'd sort of like to start by taking the existing recipe format and seeing what doesn't work [23:17] mwhudson: and hopefully the answer is not much [23:18] fair enough [23:18] I don't want to assume gbp because I'm a git-dpm partisan :-) but I think neither is directly relevant to recipes [23:19] doesn't really matter what the patch format is or whatever, we just need to merge or subtreeify something corresponding to the packaging [23:34] cjwatson: right, i guess git-dpm or gbp or whatever comes in more for maintaining the thing that gets merged or subtreeified [23:34] indeed