[17:07] <dobey> is there any way to have the launchpad builders configured to have apt output verbose messages on dependency failures? "is not going to be installed" is not a particularly useful error message in itself :-/
[18:36] <cjwatson> dobey: unfortunately not AFAIK
[18:36] <cjwatson> I think this should be fixed in apt itself personally
[18:36] <dobey> sure. i just didn't know if it had a way to do that already or not
[21:53] <mwhudson> is there any kind of planning for git-based recipe builds yet?
[22:00] <blr> mwhudson: not work we've moved on to yet, but would certainly appreciate any thoughts you might have on recipes.
[22:00] <mwhudson> blr: heh
[22:00] <mwhudson> blr: i want it, and a pony
[22:00] <mwhudson> no actual thought applied yet
[22:00] <blr> after the UI work I suspect that will be the next thing to tackle
[22:08] <mwhudson> blr: to be specific, i want to built tip-of-tree packages of go
[22:08] <mwhudson> but that's about all i really _want_ :)
[22:09] <mapreri> (and a pony)
[22:09] <blr> well, that certainly sounds reasonably - we'll sign you up for dogfooding it when we get on to it. Thanks for volunteering heh :)
[22:09] <blr> reasonable even.
[22:09] <mwhudson> i guess lp could assume the use of gbp, but i don't really understand gbp
[22:09] <mwhudson> (and i'm not sure anyone does, from what i hear)
[22:09] <mwhudson> mapreri: maybe the pony should be implied
[22:09]  * mapreri does understand gbp
[22:21] <mwhudson> mapreri: heh
[22:22] <mwhudson> well maybe you can help then
[22:22] <mwhudson> for the case where upstream is in git and you are building snapshots, it seems lots of what gbp does is not required
[23:17] <cjwatson> mwhudson: I'd sort of like to start by taking the existing recipe format and seeing what doesn't work
[23:17] <cjwatson> mwhudson: and hopefully the answer is not much
[23:18] <mwhudson> fair enough
[23:18] <cjwatson> I don't want to assume gbp because I'm a git-dpm partisan :-) but I think neither is directly relevant to recipes
[23:19] <cjwatson> doesn't really matter what the patch format is or whatever, we just need to merge or subtreeify something corresponding to the packaging
[23:34] <mwhudson> cjwatson: right, i guess git-dpm or gbp or whatever comes in more for maintaining the thing that gets merged or subtreeified
[23:34] <cjwatson> indeed